Guild Wars 2

briggah.7910:

If this test event just brought out more K-Training on your server, well sorry to say but sounds to me your server is just a K-Train server to begin with. Sounds to me your server lacks decent roamers and scouters.

Let me guess.. Before this change you all stack on a commander and run around taking things while reacting to white swords on the map? Now with no white swords your stuff gets constantly flipped? YUP K-train server. Break out of your zerg for once..

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Erm, no not really… I is on IOJ in [DOLO], and before the change we were only using white swords for fights… As for stacking on a commander… LOL, what commanders haha

I would pay gems for my white swords back.

I think it’s funny, and as you said it’s random, so it can hit at the best or worst of times haha

aesthetix.4832:

Reverence.6915:

Karma trainings is a lot easier now but that was the exact opposite of what we wanted. We wanted defending to become easier than attacking – siege disablers and their recent nerfs are 2 steps in the right direction, PPK is another 2 steps forward. The removal of white swords is like 5 steps back. 2 good changes with 1 mega bad change.

Removing white swords a bad change?

Consider this: What about the players with inadequate computer setups? Think of how much smoother the game is running for them without the GPU-heavy white sword animation on structures. I think we all just need to take a second and put ourselves in their shoes.

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not srs

I play all day at 6-10 FPS, since sword change I play at 12 fps, I have no enemies around anymore to lower it lol

I wanna know what it’s like for other servers and tiers since the removal of white swords…

From what I have seen, T3 has dramatically lost a lot of players but I think that was a combination of recent changes and having T2 left overs… I know the T2 left overs annoyed a few people but I think making it harder for everyone to fight and or defend against it has finally pushed people over the edge…

I know personally, the guild I am in is a WvW guild and yet since the changes all guild chat talks about is the 3-4 different PvP parties in Que, so off that alone, WvW lost 15-20 players from a recent “small” change.

Grav.3568:

Because as a PPT defender, my role is now impossible to play.

I don’t want to backcap, I want to prevent my opponent from capping in the first place.

Caedmon.6798:

sephiroth.4217:

Caedmon.6798:

Bugabuga.9721:

Remember, constant flipping of all objectives except for primary (hills/garri/bay that have waypoint which is a clear indicator of when it’s under attack) is perfect for the karma train! Run in circles, re-take everything back Basically wvw is now like EOTM but with waypointed keeps
Plus with points assigned per kill, who cares about towers anyways — run into zerg, wipe it = same amount of points. No need to sit/scout/upgrade.

Yeah overreact much ? Get some scouts in your towers and make proper reports and its all fine.Tbh i dont get the OP at all,as a small scale havoc squad we’ve had some awesome fights last nght and been able to cap stuff we normally wouldnt been able to cap with just 5.Thats Your mentality speaking,anet removing the white swords doesnt mean you should all zerg harder….

Not everyone plays the game the same way…. While it’s great for people like yourself wwho use the 5 man to PPT and tower cap, it’s useless for the other 5 man teams who like to use white swords to attempt to dismantle enemy zergs and create disorder among the enemies till allies come to help wipe them…

Well thats true,and it was what we were doing in the past aswell…If things change you adapt right?

I did adapt lol, to PvP or my PS4… As I’m sure others have lol

Caedmon.6798:

Bugabuga.9721:

Remember, constant flipping of all objectives except for primary (hills/garri/bay that have waypoint which is a clear indicator of when it’s under attack) is perfect for the karma train! Run in circles, re-take everything back Basically wvw is now like EOTM but with waypointed keeps
Plus with points assigned per kill, who cares about towers anyways — run into zerg, wipe it = same amount of points. No need to sit/scout/upgrade.

Yeah overreact much ? Get some scouts in your towers and make proper reports and its all fine.Tbh i dont get the OP at all,as a small scale havoc squad we’ve had some awesome fights last nght and been able to cap stuff we normally wouldnt been able to cap with just 5.Thats Your mentality speaking,anet removing the white swords doesnt mean you should all zerg harder….

Not everyone plays the game the same way…. While it’s great for people like yourself wwho use the 5 man to PPT and tower cap, it’s useless for the other 5 man teams who like to use white swords to attempt to dismantle enemy zergs and create disorder among the enemies till allies come to help wipe them…

Well as another power shatter mes I can safely say conditions are stupidly OP… If I get condi wrecked too much I get on my perplex/terror/dumfire necro with corrupt boon and spite signant and there is no class I have encountered that can survive that kitten 1v1 or I roll a ambush perplex condi teef and stealth spam…

TLDR: Condi has better results with less effort so in turn it’s more effective…. But power builds are more fun and require more skill.

T1 in a nutshell… So much zergs

Crius.5487:

Yeah, WvW loot is horrible… Look at this worthless exotic axe that dropped for me last reset

Nice drop!!!!
Only another 2 years till your next one if you’re lucky!

xGraver.4918:

Like i said before There is no active WvW devlopment and there are no ppl working (who actually know anything about wvw) on it.
WvW don’t bring any money and is loosing more ppl every day then it gains.
So theres no point doing anything for dead game mode.

I think WvW has like 2000 players in NA across all servers who play after the weekend… Out of the supposed millions of players who play, you can’t really blame them for not wanting to waste their time and money on less than .01% of the game population

QQing.3089:

Maybe because DB vastly outnumbers IOJ and NSP so they don’t even want to log in?

We’re logged in to PvP lol….

Not worth roaming with DB in the match up

I lasted a whole week and 2 days on T1…

The zergs was huge, the loots bags plenty but as a roamer there was nothing challenging other than “how long will this 5-10 man guild group chase me for”….

After being on blackgate for a whole 2 weeks, can confirm what you said lol…

Best place to be for roaming is on IOJ or some other unlucky t3 server that has the t2 left overs trying to PPT their way back into t2…

Spectral wall is not an issue… This is not even a learn to play issue, this is “I’m too lazy to walk around or press stability” issue…

In WvW spectral wall is used for the protection and to hopefully stop 1-2 people in the hammer train for 2s…. a whole 2s….

The only time this ability feels OP, is if you’re on a map floating in the sky travelling to your next champion loot bag and you’re high as a kite not paying attention after hours of mashing your staff 1 guard skills

no idea but my experience for roaming is:

Wars always have a GS
Thieves are now either evade s/d builds or ambush perplex p/d
Engies are perplex condi tanks
Necros are perplex/terror/dhumfire with corrupting boon
Rangers are longbow pewpew heros
Eles are celestial d/d ragers
mesmers are PU condi builds
Guards have medi builds or nomad trolling

Removing white swords while there is a rampart of people “walking” through walls is an interesting idea.

SonOfJacob.7396:

It’s be nice if once we logged into WvW regarding trait resetting if they’d give us the option to accept the reset or not.

Also, if people are above a certain level in WvW (I think it’s 1500 or something) they don’t need a reset because they’ve spent ALL their points. Of course, I’m not there yet, so I don’t know if the reset ignores those accounts.

+1 to this, every trait reset for 12 toons at 2000 ranks is really painful.

Keep some stacks of salt on you and when they message, send em some stacks of salt, it will usually send em raging even harder….

What ever you do though, do not tea bag someone with a female toon, someone will make you their waifu

Since the start Devs have been working hard to remove all forms of difficulty as players used to say this game was too hard, too many hidden features and skill factors, too many little “abusive bugs” that was letting players cast skills while they channeled others and so forth…

What may have started as an age rating for 17+ has now been dumbed down into a 5yrs and older game.

I like to Moa commanders.

Used to be easier when you could see the enemies “outmanned” and “commander” buffs on their health bar

+5 Supply carry account upgrade (like bank tab
WXP boost from the gem store Bonfire.
WvW version of fireworks

Jeknar.6184:

sephiroth.4217:

CnD should always work on siege seeing as it can be damaged/destroyed… Don’t drop siege on people you kill if there is a thief around…

You cannot damage walls tho. Yet you still can CnD out of it…

I never said anything about the walls, my comment was directed at siege…

I wouldn’t waste your money unless you’re way down in t8 and NA prime player…
GOM>FA>GOM>IOJ>GOM>CD>IOJ>BG and I can safely say after moving to BG this week that BG oceanic is just as dead as GoM oceanic…

CnD should always work on siege seeing as it can be damaged/destroyed… Don’t drop siege on people you kill if there is a thief around…

I logged into WvW and my toon was invisible, if it happens to anyone else then getting in a golem fixed it for me….

Kontrolle.3514:

sephiroth.4217:

Shooka.9712:

In theory, roaming in wvw sounds amazing
Running around avoiding dangers, completing small-scale missions and most importantly fighting people – 1 at a time or even multiple enemies at once

But in reality, I just find it terrible
It usually takes me 5-10 minutes to find a fight
Everytime I die I spend around 5 minutes getting to a place that may have enemies
And half the times i just get zerg-faced half way through a fight

When i do find fights I can have a great time
But it’s mostly just running around not doing anything
Am I doing something wrong ?

Btw, Im on Desolation server
And mostly roam on weekends at nights, so maps are usually full

Sounds about right for roamers…. Except finding a fight in 10 minutes, that’s pretty quick, sometimes I’ve run 5-6 laps around SM and still nothing

Roaming means running circles around SM these days?
Ok, i really do get old.

oh that’s when it gets desperate, hanging around an enemies waypointed SM is generally a hotspot for fights, mostly on blue side or the east side for duels if the Os is empty but seeing as my latest match ups have had FA and DB in them there has only been blobs and freight trains

+1 to most of those suggestions…
But as said earlier, WvW won’t live past 2015 due to a combination of many things…

Alot of WvW guilds/players always say they only log on for their guild raids/friends so as it stands it’s only the community that’s holding WvW together apparently….

Herr der Friedhoefe.2490:

nah. needs players who understand their class and how to get stability and stealth.

ok, you’ll probably die. take one for the team, while the team is coming.

If I poop in my dream I poop for real!

Shooka.9712:

In theory, roaming in wvw sounds amazing
Running around avoiding dangers, completing small-scale missions and most importantly fighting people – 1 at a time or even multiple enemies at once

But in reality, I just find it terrible
It usually takes me 5-10 minutes to find a fight
Everytime I die I spend around 5 minutes getting to a place that may have enemies
And half the times i just get zerg-faced half way through a fight

When i do find fights I can have a great time
But it’s mostly just running around not doing anything
Am I doing something wrong ?

Btw, Im on Desolation server
And mostly roam on weekends at nights, so maps are usually full

Sounds about right for roamers…. Except finding a fight in 10 minutes, that’s pretty quick, sometimes I’ve run 5-6 laps around SM and still nothing

Zadarh.1932:

Tommyknocker.6089:

If you can’t beat em, join em.

My thoughts exactly! When ppl cry about thieves I’m always thinking “You know you can make YOUR OWN thief right?”

this was my solution on perplex ambush thief >:D

Sirendor.1394:

I tried running d/d zerk ele (full zerk / 0-0-4-4-6)but it’s rather hard when you’re soloing… especially when facing heavy damage specs, the elementalist will go down in seconds, and there’s nothing you can do about it.

I found it to be the same until I did fresh air s/d, such a fun class to play, so many little bonuses to the scepter eg: stomping a guardian I will swap to electric and use blinding bolt as it won’t affect stomp animations

misterman.1530:

McWolfy.5924:

There are 3 exist

Exits* – but yeah, that’s what I thought.

Tried it, they have people watching too. They have trebs facing spawn too. I partied one and his answer was to go to the eotm. They have so much siege facing spawn too funny so most people left the map. – Quoted by OP if you read the thread past the 3rd post…

Hi there friend!!!!

Personally I have had a lot of fun on s/d ele (fresh air)

I have played both classes but the thing that makes ele so fun for me is that there are multiple burst combinations at your disposal so you’re opening attack to your closing attack will always be different in every fight…

But an answer to your question would be: Ele, again… An ele in my opinion is always needed in small group roaming ith atleast 4 points in water and arcana, the condi removal/boons is always welcome and the GWEN meta is still stupidly strong atm (guard/war/ele/necro = GWEN)

It’s cuz you left IOJ tristan

Come back and get spawn camped by FA on every map instead, atleast they don’t use siege

(bring QQ back with you, our EB towers aren’t upgraded an sieged anymore )

Mike Hawk.4835:

I’m not sure we’re in the worst spot at IoJ actually. The past few weeks playing against the servers in this range has been a blast – lots of good fights every night. We may not be winning them all (and certainly got rekt this week by DB), but it really has been fun.

Agreed… DB’s coverage for OCX is huuuuuuuuuuge but it also means there are actually enemies during my play hours

EOTM was intended as a wvw megaserver for people to play while in que after all the complaints from T1 about 2 hour ques, but instead it has turned to what it is today

Jeknar.6184:

sephiroth.4217:

BL’s – North camp
EB – Pang, Dane and Golanta – Shortest routes to the keep but these camps are also targeted by enemies, alot.
(opinion based off upgrading keeps on reset or what not)

Actually it’s rogues for green and not golanta… The “Mine” camps have slightly smaller routes than the “Mill” ones.

Thanks Jek, not sure what the community would do without you telling us our own opinions are wrong every day

Why stop there? You could report the rest of the server and hope that works!

+1
I have generosity sigils in 2 different weapons I would like back plz…

Reborn.2934:

camps are supply pools .

in defense , there are situations where no camp is important ( all keeps are full and t3 ) and some other situations where all camps are important ( Friday night on reset ).

in attack , every camp is important if you want to block enemies uphrades

Thx for the tips in your signature mate
Helps me a lot with my $300 laptop and my internet coming from Vodafone using my phones wifi hotspot lol

BL’s – North camp
EB – Pang, Dane and Golanta – Shortest routes to the keep but these camps are also targeted by enemies, alot.
(opinion based off upgrading keeps on reset or what not)

Zenith.6403:

sephiroth.4217:

These scores seem legit, that server must have 1 person on it ?

- The whole game mode is about having masses of players and coverage. If you have 20 players on one side sieging keep against 40 defenders, keeps stays on the original holders and those 20 attackers will have accomplished nothing. At some point they’ll just give up on the game mode. It’s almost impossible to win a fight against larger group due to how downed state works.

Hence my comment about having 1 person on the server, but thank you for simplifying it even further for everyone else to understand

Kraljevo.2801:

Pastafarian.1642:

Yeah take a look did some searching. Use google translate

Chinese server rankings:
http://www.gw2sns.com/wvw/list

Holy kitten. So many lopsided match ups.

Go to the 2nd and 3rd tab and you will have a real wtf moment… Jeeeez.

+5000
+400
+180,000

These scores seem legit, that server must have 1 person on it ?

Good idea!!!!
So sick of going to bed and waking up to see the Americans have brought freedom to my home world!

24 hour coverage could be fixed by combining the NA/EU servers together then breaking down the scoring system into 8 hour PPT grinds to give the NA/OCX and EU players something to work for a final score to be accumulated at the end of each 8 hour time frame.

I just bumped into an NSP person I thought was hacking but this might be the cause, he was warping everywhere and couldn’t be hit

I remember when SBI would do this to my server every match up then tell us it was because of their undeniable skill… At the time though they just had the DR server merge with them…

Pinkamena Diane Pie.8054:

Fed up? Let’s put it this way, this is my 3rd account!

I’ll let you guess what happened to the previous accounts on this forum.

I wish I had the spare money to buy useless kitten too