DAoC was the best PvP MMO ever created, and why those hacks that worked on warhammer couldn’t make it half as good idk. But ya anet should build a time machine and go play some daoc for a week then come back and fix WvWvW from musical objectives to something worth playing.
I’d love to see DAoC released today… as I said it was a great game but there is a lot of nostalgia, and was far “perfect”.
You ignore that healers DO exist in GW2. You won’t bring someone from 10% to full in 5 seconds flat but why would you need to. “Healers” are only one form of group support. If you time your dodge well/control your boons/simply understand your surroundings you won’t need to be carried with a “healer.”
My Elementalist is in exotic and ascended Cleric gear, I have 1600 healing power with my full build, people heal for 160 per second just being within 1200 range of me. Despite that I still pull out my lightning hammer and do damage more damage than the same people wanting a “healer” to carry them, I build like that to allow my teammates to build more aggressively. Healing is useless if the party is at full health, even when you stack healing power you need to fight.
I can see my over simplification is a problem, I removed the word “Dedicated” because I didn’t want to paint a Healer as standing around doing nothing when the health bars were full, and broke common sense apparently…
Put the cleric-measuring-stick away, in this exchange you’re second best at it already (tho nice numbers, good start) and are not interesting in being closer to a dedicated healer anyway. Either you can’t comment on what I actually said or you are sick of being asked to heal people and can’t just man-up and tell them to get off… well given that is about all you said there…
Also for intonation. You can not read any tone from a written sentence unless you are given the tone in advance. So it doesn’t matter in what spirit it was written. This is why sarcasm doesn’t work when written down unless it is extremely exaggerated.
Right.
That is definately shows insight into online communications.
I’ve been swayed.
You are awesome.
they ban you for swearing in a video game rofl what kind of person doesn’t swear in a video game? Like this is so stupid writing this makes me jiggle a little.
I’d prefer to see half of the above words replaced with utter profanity – as long as it improved the sentance structure, and made it more readable overall.
Gold sellers have a hard time with GW2, we can already buy gold through legit means. This means gold sellers need to sell gold cheaper than the game sells it, thus they are greatly hindered.
The worst case scenario is when they hack/steal credit cards to buy gems for gold to then sell, but that is criminal and indeed punishable by law.
Nope – they just exploit your account, liquidate or send off your stuff into their network of accounts, done.
If I were in their shoes and y’know – Java was full of holes, people didn’t patch their PCs, and there was some site I knew the players visited I’d just target that first…
Anyone with a clue and a stolen credit card would not be buying gems, they’re running the timer against converting linden / whatever into litecoin into BTC.
Oh – I say too much – back to LFG site now, hey look 3rd party banner seems legit.
:-\
And one way the game can create challenging content is creating content wherein the downed state will be rendered useless because stopping to help get your teammate up will be more detrimental to the party in the long run(e.g. final boss in dredge fractal).
That’s my main beef with this game design philosophy.
They go through the trouble of designing a mechanic that reward players for using it then turn around and punish them for using it when the going gets rough.
I can see why the general population would be confused or frustrated when something that’s supposed to work suddenly stops working.
It’s a wonderful mechanic actually. It rewards you for trying to improve, but punishes you when you rely on it. :p
I don’t think it’ll reward players trying to improve. I think players will grow dependant on it and get frustrated when they can’t heal someone and when other people can’t heal them.
That’s when the entire forum population gets to say “L2P” :p
I think the artifical cap on encounter difficulty (yes the game could be more fun and challenging for the MMORPG old hats/pros) is a result of the lack of healers coupled with an influx of players who are not good “twitch” players…
The result is you have a great set of mechanics that are almost completely ignored in encounters, Agony (’cause its pro lol), and ever ramping health pools. The scaling you see out there in multi-player encounters is dragged down by the need to make the personal story easy enough for a naked character, two levels below recommended, driven by a muppet, to complete most of it – or else said muppet will be over in that forum drumming up an army of their ilk behind the banner of “Its broken!”.
Zerg vs. Zerg gotcha down? Throw in a good healer or two and PvP zergs become tactical again (and are still meat grinders though mwhahahahaha), and bunker builds suddenly require support resolving that imbalance.
However some players out there hated waiting for the healer/tank to come along and never thought to try either role… so yes – the lack of Healers as a serious focus (not tanks to the same degree) has flattened the gameplay down half a dimension. I have hope though – Anet could “flick the role on” at any stage… I think they may have to.
(Yes I’ve over simplified… can you blame me – its the internet).
Why should they warn you? When you bought this game you agreed to their rules. Yet you went against that and broke them any ways. You broke the rules knowingly, thus you don’t deserve a warning. You get punished directly for breaking the rules you agreed to when you first started playing the game.
Swearing’s a pretty minor offense, and you shouldn’t get temp banned on the first violation. Just a warning. If it were something more serious, like botting or exploiting, sure, ban away without a warning and let the appeals process sort them out.
exactly, I don’t swear heavily, only occasionally, like most people, and yet, no warning, and they temp ban me. Most people just get away with a warning.
Usually if you are banned for inappropriate language, it is because you directed it at someone in an offensive/provoking manner. Like using it as an insult or in an argument. Then you’ll get banned for it. They barely ban people for saying things like “That is <censored>ing awesome!” or “You are one awesome mother<censored>.”.
It is only when you use it in an offensive/insulting way that they take action.
I almost never swear at someone, never in this game at least, yet countless times, happened to me.
and what you said, apparently, thats how i got banned, i might of said something like "****ing awesome!. but thats it.
Refer to my post above about tone, sounds a lot more likely you made someone feel bad and they reported you for language, hence the language ban…
I agree, to a point. Yes there is a filter, but that doesn’t mean to use profanity in excess, especially not in map chat. I would suggest to keep it minimal even in guild chat if you have a lot of people on that aren’t familiar with your type of personality. GW2 is great at monitoring this sort of stuff, they wouldn’t have issued a temp ban at random. I have problems with swearing, too, but that’s why I don’t type in map chat very often, and use my guild’s teamspeak.
I actually need to show quite a bit of care with the profanity filter and tone – most of the more offensive things I COULD say would not be caught by it as they are not low register or commonly used slurs.
Tone I think is more important – they are very interested in making sure that the kids don’t get hurt, if they think they’ve been hurt – they’ve probably been hurt, THAT will gain more attention than a slip of the C word I suspect.
but no warning?
As I said – amazing – grats.
For those out there who don’t see the humour – turn the filter BACK on.
Lore is one thing, storytelling an immersion are another.
I believe MMORPGs need lore, but storytelling and immersion need to be balanced against making a playground/themepark for thousands of kids who just don’t care – the personal story is an example of how hard the balance is.
I am Playing Tomb Raider for immersion and storytelling – GW2 for carrying folks through team encounters like dungeons.
I know what I’ve been reported for, warned for, sprout in game and have not been “temp banned”… GW2 is actually pretty good in this regard.
Mate- whatever you said, however many times you said it, or who you said it to must be bloody amazing – but I suggest you probably deserved it.
Grats.
The OP is actually quite on the ball, knows their stuff reasonably well and has some OK points, they didn’t start “slinging” – I think they took it seriously first while my tongue was still in cheek…
The issue is that comparing matured games, that started out much like GW2 – somewhat incomplete, to a baby that hasn’t evolved or been shaped much yet is going to be an issue.
DAOC was not the worst game, but frankly rose coloured glasses are in play here and anyone who really loved 25, 30, 40, 50, whatever man content obviously never had a leading or organising role in their guild.
I think the problem is that, as with the world boss furor and other issues in the past, the door gets closed on newer players, not older ones. Players who’ve done these runs have made out quite well for themselves. Shame for anyone who joins after.
Anything introduced to assist and improve the experience of new players will be cornered, owned, and abused by those with longer /played time and more in game currency…
Unless you progress things vertically and then allow for a “Zero to current” pathway through all that progression. This brings with it a new set of problems…
1.) I don’t think you quite understood what I meant. I’m talking exclusive skins that drop from the dungeon.. like some form of RNG to make you keep going after that one boss over and over again, so when you get it.. you mentally hold it up like the Tri-Force triumphantly. This game lacks that a lot right now. The sense of reward in this game is non-existent almost. The Tokens aren’t worth the time.
Do you miss your Thunderfury bro? The legendary weapon is the item you want, but it sounds like it might be too big an investment of time as it doesn’t just drop once every million times….
Adding non-bound skins will not only help add that sense of reward but can also help boost the economy.
As for CoF if you’re not a Zerker Mesmer or Warrior.. those groups are tough to get into and .. I’m sorry that’s not fun. I should be able to run any dungeon because I want variety and make bank.
Run with guild, friends, or create your own – really this is entirely just the way you are looking at the problem, it has multiple solutions.
2.) Only if you’re in a bad tier that crap isn’t happening in T1 or T2.
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I’m seeing a choice here – looks like you’ve made one and need to stand by it or reconsider.
I think that, if someone feels it is a game breaker, leaving a game due to a lack of engagement with some NPCs s probably for the best.
Just sayin’
Multifactor is the only viable approach to security at the level we are talking about.
From many years of experience I can state 99% of “hacking” of passwords/accounts is the user at fault, but many years of user training and awareness has done no good either.
Hands up if you’ve been “well informed enough” to have used that LFG site but “know for a fact” that Anet is at fault for all account woes?
If there is a level based tilt to the drops it is the area/mob, not character that drives it I would suspect from my observations.
I quit playing nearly two months ago.
Indeed… two months ago…
Considering my reason for quitting after 1k+ hours of play was boredom / lack of content.
Or burnout – psychology and arithmatic says that without a serious OCD that amount of time (around 200hrs p/month) put into any one activity would lead to negative effects… or you know – boredom.
They can’t pursue because in-game gold has no cash value. Most they can do is close their account, then they charge back on the credit card and not much is lost.
OK – that is quite different to what you originally wrote and I quoted… so lets go again!
Well actually they can block entire ranges (or single) IP addresses, but the botters just move out of the range and the site that sells it is entirely different again…
Around six years ago most gold “botting” was in fact employees of companies related to the sellers being “paid” (if you can call it that) to grind, then it became more profitable to just hack/exploit accounts, which is lower risk/profile/easier than the servers.
They can’t pursue because in-game gold has no cash value.
Actually they can for other reasons (IP laws protect it), and in this case the game has a DIRECT currency trade which provides an exchance rate of sorts.
ANet stated the bots are there for this? I have my “conspiracy” theories trying to rationalize it, because in GW1 most of bots were player hackers made codes, mostly about competition between guilds. The game code is quite is easy to be broken in my opinion
Which should be weighted based on questions already asked in this case (sorry to say), and is innacurate and out of date at ABSOLUTE best mate.
and why would they bother to create bots to farm gold and then some human work craft the legionary for example?
Huh? Bots loot precursors too, all sorts of stuff – what are you asking here – if bots craft things?
Being so easy for any skilled hacker to create a bot i think is much easier to gain access to unlock servers in ANet.
Trust me when I say anyone with the skills and inclination to pop ANet game servers is probably also bright enough to go after a higher pay-off target – as it is clear you are not familiar with the tech/geek side of this.
We are all basically able to access all weapons in the game, but they are locked in different servers. Once you get the right keys to unlock that server – aka, making the recipe in the MyF, your client get access to that weapon. I think is easier in my opinion for the black market to just break those keys than insert an army of bots and later somebody have to manually craft the weapons. If you see the store of the site there are practically all legendaries there. I have been following their evolution in the site and they dont seem to be having “recession times”, and that is what supposedly should be happening since ANet stated they closed almost 2000 accounts already. And no effect on the site sellings?
I really think some more independant research would do you well at this stage…. keys to the kingdom huh…
New accounts have made, they didn’t address demand (War on Gold Selling lol), demand is lazy entitled players who can’t hack a long term investment and who are too cheap to pay Anet for their gold.
But anyway, is just my theory. People see bots with oriental names and they jump to conclusions, but Anet never said what they are for real doing there so … (or if they said, i missed)
Most people only spot “player bots” because they stand out as bots, and conspiracy based on imaginary keys and a lack of understanding are not my forte sorry.
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I’m waiting on the new tier of gear announcement.
Thirsty for Tears.
So many negative posts I see on these forums are from people trying to play an MMORPG as a single player RPG. The whole magic of an MMO is doing it with friends, trust me if you have a group of people who want to do content it makes it better all around. If you are having problems with the basics of this game find a guild, interact, enjoy. That is what it is all about.
Just sayin.
Not quite correct at least as I’ve noticed. The complaints are regarding large guilds for the most part right now. gw2 after recent patches favors mega guilds …and all their bitter drama. Meanwhile in classic mmo’s it’s the small guild that has endured over the years. -drama
Sometimes worse than forum drama. But anyway, small guilds have been eaten up by mega guilds as of late. Guilds are good, but not everyone wants to be involved in all the baggage that comes with them.
Q.F.Stuff!
If they are going to try to make everything big and epic the least they could do is offer some way for you to still have close interaction with mates – maybe dual guild or something aye…
Also charge a transaction fee on posting here – make it Karma – thin the malcontents out and make sure anyone who quit has a limited window of sook.
Bail.
Muppetry like this exists in a lot of games in one fasion or another (Doomwalker hahaha), I suppose all of those “elitists” screaming out about learning encounter mechanics are still just infringing on everyone’s fun.
Of course it may only be a matter of time before the “Greifing” calls start…
Hey guys – this will all be solved by an in game LFG tool.
/sarcasm
Maybe I’ve been wrong – perhaps mounts would solve THIS issue as folks sat around in key areas on them.
that for me is hacking of one company – coz they have a commercial representation – in the server of another.
That for me needs clarification, not sure what you are specifically trying to say – however that is not “hacking”…
There is nothing technically illegal about gold sellers/botters.
Can they ban them from playing the game? Of course. But they can’t pursue any legal means to shut them down.
It’s a different story with private servers.
Actually both cases (gold/servers) are about the same in the eyes of the law, one of them takes people away from their product and revenue stream and the other only from the revenue stream.
Gold buying indicates the player has some money (and ought to RMT via gemstore) so banning the account is unlikely to be a loss of actual player – anyone “keen” enough to blow cash and risk banning will just buy a new serial.
Private servers are a whole different kettle of fish – but one of the main concerns of the game makers is that they are usually unstable, hacked, crap experiences which impacts on the image of their game (as well as other issues).
But to answer the OP question – the site is probably hosted by a less ethical mob who are ignoring takedown requests, and Google out some info on unauthorised RMT in games – hacked accounts and botting generall provide most the resources, not server hacking.
They’re not – they can drop, forge, etc.
You think playing the TP is fun/engaging like running content with buddies? It isn’t but it pays better and is more fun than EvE market games.
Just take the 700g and invest it into the TP… of course there is risk and you may need to get another account or two but if you have that amount to invest the sky is the limit for return.
Population spikes related to latency at the server?
Aren’t we glad they didn’t rush out guesting to appease the waaaah-crew.
Add votekicking to the list
Until they fix the majority requirement no point, the abuse reports will be abused.
Most people don’t kick folks for fun or greif – in fact its remarkably rare…
no, people kick for disagreements. All it takes is a minor disagreement and you can say goodbye to all that time invested inside the dungeon.
you see, people couldn’t give two kittens about you when they don’t like you.
What possible disagreements could start in a dungeon run that would get one kicked from it?
I admit that I either run with a couple of RL mates and speaking with them the whole time, or am carrying my weight and then some – and generally don’t mouth off either way as I’m busy playing like a boss – so my experiences may not be typical, or like yours.
Add votekicking to the list
Until they fix the majority requirement no point, the abuse reports will be abused.
Most people don’t kick folks for fun or greif – in fact its remarkably rare…
They are afraid to add more skills go figure if we get something like that.
This is to achieve “balance” supposedly, yet D/D Eles and Thieves show that having few skills doesn’t prevent unbalances.
There is a difference between not having fixed something, and not wanting to make something potentially worse… or was there a official note somewhere stating they’d achieved balance via sparing distribution of skills?
Yeah sadly I kind of have to agree with the others here. It seems the Suggestion section goes pretty much ignored.
The only time Anet implements suggestions made by the community, is when people complain about it enough in General Discussion. I’ve never seen anything from the Suggestions section implemented. Take for example, the trading post preview option. Was complained about here in General and the BLTC section, not in suggestions. Culling? Complained about here in General. No treadmill? Complained about here in General. Lack of town clothes/armor skins? Complained about in General and the BLTC. WvWvW/SPvP changes? Complained about in the PvP section.
It seems the only time they implement our suggestions, is when it is a complaint in any other forum but Suggestions. There is a bunch of really good suggestions in there, but they will basically be ignored cause it is not a complaint and it’s in the Suggestion section. So it basically just feels like a place for us to dream and imagine, for fun.
So for less than nine months you’ve not seen Anet put down the “waah fix” tool and jump over to putting in nice suggestions from the players? That is not really exceptional for this sort of software I hate to say.
You’ve chosen a specific path to an end – basically you need to produce income and use the dailies to that end.
There is no other way to make a buck in game? There is no way to buy an in game buck any other way?
Choices – you’ve made one, but it wasn’t the only one.
GW had time to mature and find balance.
and yet one of its builds was called IMBAgon
Doesn’t is any way diminish my point, just means that it could have continued maturing.
The calls for balance early on were mainly a call for someone to step up and teach people how to use their profession and their professions counters, I still cringe at some of the “useless no synergy” calls made in the class forums as many show a complete lack of understanding, capability, and imagination.
Still not right though.
Pretty much any solution is more abusable or dreadfully limiting than the problem…
Why not report via the site/email… not rocket surgery to leave the game client if you are so hurt.
There is usually a good idea or two around half to a third of the way through the big ones. Just look for the posts with good structure and spelling that haven’t been quoted/responded to.
GW had time to mature and find balance.
GW2 is less than a year old and balance is apparently less of an issue than:
Drop rates
LFG tools
Duelling
Guesting
Character renaming
Future Gear
Scavenger Hunts
Guesting Exploits
Guild renaming
Guild Vs. Guild arenas
etc.
Has anyone specifically noted FOTM is the same acronym as “Flavour of the month”, could be a sign of things to come… lol.
You knew you couldn’t when you paid the money, well assuming you rationally informed yourself of what town clothes meant in GW2 (vs. GW).
Contract on payment was met, now you’d like it changed – fine, but don’t try to present this like you were deceived by Anet into believing that town clothes functioned differently.
They need to look at xmutes to improve the way appearances work in this game, and until such time I shall refrain from spending on them or town clothes – vote with wallet works.
Stop for a sec there – at this moment in time the Ascended gear/fractals makes some more reluctant to play alts, as they cannot maintain a number of alts at the “top level” despite the fact that only a couple of pieces of gear have been “superceded”.
And that is assuming a lot of things that I normally point out are broken arguments.
Can I get the link to where it was stated you’d need ascended gear for any other content, where it was stated that a verticle step from Fractals to upcoming encounters was intended? I want this stated in black and white as extrapolation is not this forum’s strong suit.
Even IF all of the above falls into place it makes GW2 on par with other games for having “fully endgame” alts, and otherwise in every way kittens all over every other system. That is – the one tiny failed gripe that can be brought to bear on this topic can be viewed in a vacuum and likely won’t be relevant in couple of months.
I have plenty of time. No kids/SO. Not a partier. Weekends are free and clear. I could conceivably come home, do 2 loads of laundry and then play ALL day Saturday/Sunday. Stay up all night Saturday night if I so desired. The hardcore ability and drive is there. Just not every day of the week. But this is about Anet’s design decisions, not my personal work situation.
I feel this will devolve into a battle of semantics of some derivation of what “time” is, so I’ll bow out and grant you your victory.
I don’t see your problem meshing – are you suggesting that you have to miss a day of dailies here and there (like most/all players) and as such the mechanics of “Dailies” is fundamentally flawed?
Time is only one dimension of the story, most complainers have managed to get their heads around up to two dimensions of a number of complex input/reward systems however there are a LOT more than that involved…
Your assumptions are wrong, time and effort are not the only variables being measured when looking at reward in this game (or any good MMO of the last five years or more). However your description of your work situation gives me quite a bit of insight…
Perhaps take a few years off gaming and put the time into that job, get off the bottom rung and up a little, then return to gaming when it suits your lifestyle better?
There are definately some people out there trying to jam the square peg of commitment-based games, into the round hole of their lives and really hurting because Anet (or any other company) can’t reconcile that for them, and this is the LEAST bad fit game in the genre for those folks…
Mindset issue.
To sound a little fancy (for those who pickup on the paraphrased reference) – you’re taking what should have been a nice little reward and making it feel like a chore.
This game is great for alts, especially if you have a couple of accounts and a little bit of ingenuity.
But to answer the “stealth” Ascended gear gripe OP probably meant – I don’t need any farmed gear to enter every piece of content in the game, the only one I ought to have different gear provides that different gear when napping through it the first time.
Want a mount too? How about Inspect function? ;-)
I get where you’re coming from. I wouldn’t say I’m BAD at gaming, but i’ve never been “elite”
if it requires studying math, synergies and min maxing I can’t be bothered. That’s not why I game.
This has gated me from a lot of high level pve/pvp content in several games.
If it requires understanding the underlying mechanics and gameplay intent, doing a little bit of thinking to bring out the best possible outcome, and having half of an eye towards the “cog in the machine” than a character is when operating in a group – I can’t be bothered, that why FPS zerg Halo FFA maps exist.
i am bad with everything in this game but i like this game :/ so .. as long as i did not make people around me angry because of my nuubish style, and i am having fun, then i don’t think it’s a problem :p
But again it shows an awareness and (though not stated) a desire to improve or learn. We were all “that guy” once, in some game somewhere – and I love bringing you guys through runs… not least of all because of the tears it will bring the proleet kitten who is raging over nobody else bringing their exploit consumables to the dungeon :-D
Reread what I said – you state you try to think and learn and master it, I like you.
There is an example further up of someone who is willfully (I would hope) unwilling to learn auto-attack, traits and spending the point, etc. closer to what I was referring to.
Also – reread the part where I was highlighed there is a difference between casual and poor as an adjective for a player (and a game incidentally), and also said that terms like “casual” and “hardcore” are poorly defined.
It never was about uberleetpronesscopters – though to clarify – it was about engagement with the game via its mechanics and the willful belligerent being a waste of time.
I appologise, I missinterpreted your post then.
What I’m up to is that there are limits how good someone can become. I can play kinda decent but I will never become an keyboard-artist, doing every jumping puzzle like nothing for example. And I would wish that people come to accept that some might try and indeed improve but still are not comparable to some who a) play alot and got more practise and b) are more skilled when it comes to reaction and whatelse, instead of beeing told they do just not try hard enough.
The fact you are trying to improve your gameplay makes the “real-pro” players love you, the kiddie “leetpro” players can join the willfully unimproving and logout too. The key is to find a niche within the game that suits your playstyle and skill level – back in the day I’d have told you to roll a pally (he he he).
I notice a few people who have replied either without reading properly (yes it is a higher register language I use, vocab up) or have missed my point, but I’ll throw in this as a response to one – having fun is the idea and the fundamental reason to play – being crap at something doesn’t preclude that.
Casual game doesn’t mean that a poor player will be able to experience every part of it.
Casual game doesn’t mean that a poor player will be accepted by better players for party play.
I don’t understand this “Casual” at all – transient / occasional / bad… its worse than “hardcore” for failure of definition.
I’ve seen players who identify as “Casual” really they are transient players who are bad at games (strangely good at forum sympathy lol) with no desire to improve their gameplay as they are “just not that into it”… and I’m considered the bad guy for suggesting they log off and uninstall before they waste anyone elses time or resources any further…
Oh guess what; I don’t want to group up with guys like you. Who’s resources do I waste then, hm? What do you provide to a community so you are not a waste? There are enough people out there who blame the “mechanics” for their own failures, because it never ever occurs to them that “they” could be the problem. Oh the game must be wrong because they fail at it. So it either is always a piece of cake, or just “bad” mechanics for them. I am not throwing my own mistakes at something else to cover my failurs. I can admit that I’m not perfect at something.
When I fail at something I try to think and learn and master it. But that does not mean that I am uberawesome and nothing is a challenge.
Reread what I said – you state you try to think and learn and master it, I like you.
There is an example further up of someone who is willfully (I would hope) unwilling to learn auto-attack, traits and spending the point, etc. closer to what I was referring to.
Also – reread the part where I was highlighed there is a difference between casual and poor as an adjective for a player (and a game incidentally), and also said that terms like “casual” and “hardcore” are poorly defined.
It never was about uberleetpronesscopters – though to clarify – it was about engagement with the game via its mechanics and the willful belligerent being a waste of time.
Perma ban all “exploiters” – they’ll all buy new accounts, roll new characters and spend up again in the gem store.
Zero tolerance perma-bans on everything!
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