i5 Intel or FX 8350 and why.
8GB of memory or more and why if more.
How much would the video card affect both and what are the major specks to look for in the card.
Well, if I were you I would wait for more cash and pony up for a new powersupply that has more than 1 PCIe connector…then that will open up some more powerful cards worth upgrading to.
Unless this problem with Nvidia is within-the-past-week-recent, then there is no actual problem and its a problem isolated to the user proclaiming such problem. I run an Nvidia card and my siblings run Nvidia cards. All of us don’t have problems running the game and run at the expected range of FPS for our CPU/GPU combo.
Indeed, a PSU with only one PCIe might not even have enough power on the 12v rail to power a good card, though you need to list specs to tell. I also run NV and get around 114FPS in PvE and don’t often go under 60FPS in WvW and when I do it’s due to CPU restrictions and not GPU. Once they allow use of more threads from the game it will do much better for people with 3+ cores. You should also check to see what your GPU is loading at to make sure it’s the bottleneck.
^^^^^^^ Is good information! Although it should have no problem running a 7770 never spend the money for a small upgrade always go big or go home. If you could post a link to the EXACT power supply you have or list the brand and model# that would help. For the video card if the PSU can handle it a 7850 would be a good upgrade and afordable if you could sell the card you have. Also the above could very well be right about the i5 760 being the problem if your motherboard does not have locked BIOS like some box store brands have it will overclock to 4.0 easy, this will require a aftermarket cooler for it. Not something to try if you are not sure of your PC skills but a tech savey friend could help. Some of these people got a overclock to 4.8 GHz http://www.overclock.net/t/858385/the-i5-760-oc-club
Ilithis, I was just reading that! A voltage issue would actually explain all the problems I’ve been having since I built it, but I haven’t touched any of the settings or anything for it. I did just realize my BIOS needed updating, so I did that and I also loaded default values.
Is there any way to check if the voltage is wrong or is it more like trial and error?
Also, I’m using HWMonitor to monitor temps and my MoBo went up to about 63C, Processor 56C, and Video Card 56C during game play. Those values don’t seem high at all. I’m going to let it soak for a few minutes in lions arch, where I was getting the worst crashes before, and see what happens.
This will tell the volts you have from the PSU and that is a very cheap brand.
This will run the game better than what you are looking at. Get a tech savey friend to overclock the processor up to 4.0GHz or so. FX6300 and a 7770 video card. http://www.cyberpowerpc.com/saved/1F2Q4U
When the box pops up saying can not show it just click ok and it will show the build. $689
Cant really give advice since I don’t know what you are upgrading from.
1 That is not a gaming video card.
2 A single 2GB stick of memory? This I dought will run windows and the game.
3 That is a old processor but still games fairly well.
If you download CPU-Z and run prime 95 you will probably see the processor speed going down when the tempreature goes up. Also I do agree with the above poster on replacing the thremal compound first.
Download prime 95 and real temp gt 3.70. run them both at the same time this will use 100% of the processor and monitor the temperature. If I remeber right the Tjunction on that processor is like 76C it is posible that the processor has cooler to 60 from the time you closed the game and checked the temperature.
EDIT you can also download GPU-Z and MSI kombuster to check the video card.
Never compair other games, he has a heat issue that only shows for this game because it’s doing all it can. monitor the processor and video card temps. One of them is the problem when they get to hot they throttle down to keep from killing it. When it cools back down it will kick back up to full speed till it gets to hot again. (clean out the PC fans and heatsink with a can of compressed air holding the fans still when cleaning them) I would bet on the processor.
Well best prices ever is not true. Yes you can get a good deal on some in store only items and combos but for the rest of their stuff just not true. Also remeber you must pay taxes on these items.
Their no need to get a i5 3770k for gaming a i5 3570k will do the same thing at $100 cheaper, 8GB of memory is all thats needed unless you are going the ramdisk way, I really like the Samsung SSD’s but it’s more of a luxery than anything.
I checked the prices and yes if you live near the microcenter this is a really good combo. http://www.microcenter.com/product/393422/P8Z77-V_LK_LGA_1155_Z77_ATX_Intel_Motherboard http://www.microcenter.com/product/388577/Core_i5_3570K_34GHz_LGA_1155_Processor
$270 as a combo + tax.
The rest can be bought cheaper here free shipping and no sales tax. http://pcpartpicker.com/p/QWrj
Comes out to about 1K without the case as that is up to what you like. Yes you can spend more money if you would like to and buy more expensive parts to get a little better performance.
Recently my laptop failed to even run GW2 so im looking to build my own computer for the cheapest price(buying parts of amazon) but also beable to run the game on High settings smoothly. So what would be the best build for me to go, I do tend on playing WvW
Budget and high settings really dont go good together but a price range would help and if you need abokittenely everything or have things you are going to use like monitor, mouse, keyboard.
I also agree my 6970 runs everything I play just fine so I will not replace it till something comes out that it will not perform in. This could be next year or 2/3 years from now. Also it’s not long till the next generation cards come out.
I would say their nothing wrong with the video card and the temps look fine.
I would say it’s on their end. Even though I will now probably get anouther infraction point.
Make sure nothing is running in the background on the PC and turn everything to low/off. Adding 2 more gigs of memory might help some, but that processor is very weak that’s the main problem.
http://pcpartpicker.com/p/7OFE
The CPU cooler is large.
If you live near a microcenter you can get the mother board and CPU as a combo for $270 (in store only)
Cheaper option no overclocking. http://pcpartpicker.com/p/Qsc3
If you dont have a 64 bit operating system I would also get that.
I was having the exact problem as described by Etonmessy, and i mean exactly. I have a 680 GTX, and turning the Nvidia power option to “High Performance Preferred” has left me with zero “no video signal” and then reboot crashes for an entire day. This seems to be a common problem with some batches of 680s. If anyone else is about to lose their cool over this problem like I was its a least worth a try.
This is on the right track as I stated here.
If your having this problem download and run this to stress the video card. http://www.geeks3d.com/20130328/msi-kombustor-2-5-2-gpu-videocard-burn-in-stress-test-utility-benchmark-nvidia-geforce-amd-radeon/
If you do not have the problem running this their nothing wrong with the video card.
If you do have the problem running this down clock the video card a full 15% and run it again. Alot of factory overclocked cards have a problem of not actually having the proper voltage to support the overclock. This is not related to the power supply (if you actually have a proper power supply) and can be fixed by tweaking the volts AT YOUR OWN RISK.
This is pretty much a top of the line PC includes everything but the keyboard, mouse, speakers, and monitor. It’s made to overclock as with this game it will help alot.
Move the front case fan to the top as output and install the 200mm fan in the front as input. http://pcpartpicker.com/p/QhAX
For boot times the raid0 is not even close to a SSD, from the time you see the mother board flash screen till windows is ready to use is about 10 seconds.
For the mother board it’s all about what features you are going to use how many HDD’s, Xfiring or not, USB 3.0 or not, overclocking or not.
The problem with that PC is they use the absolute cheapest parts they can buy like the Apex power supply, motherboard, and memory, SATA II HDD. That PC only has 2 reviews look at the reviews on thier other models.
The one I listed from cyberpower I selected only quality parts and yes you will need to overclock the processor to have good WVW FPS.
You never said if you need everything including OS, speakers, monitor, keyboard, and mouse.
If your having this problem download and run this to stress the video card. http://www.geeks3d.com/20130328/msi-kombustor-2-5-2-gpu-videocard-burn-in-stress-test-utility-benchmark-nvidia-geforce-amd-radeon/
If you do not have the problem running this their nothing wrong with the video card.
If you do have the problem running this down clock the video card a full 15% and run it again. Alot of factory overclocked cards have a problem of not actually having the proper voltage to support the overclock. This is not related to the power supply (if you actually have a proper power supply) and can be fixed by tweaking the volts AT YOUR OWN RISK.
i5 3570k processor
7870 video card
8GB good memory
not my favorite power supply but best they offered for the price,
Free TOMB RAIDER and BioShock Infinite Games
First you need to have a decent aftermarket CPU cooler not the stock one.
On that motherboard to reach A MILD overclock you can just change the mulitplier and leave the rest on auto. Keep a very close eye on the temperatures running prime 95 to stress test the overclock.
Disclaimer do this at your own risk. http://www.legitreviews.com/article/1998/13/
Nothing “GTS” is a high end card. It will be an improvement, so if that’s all you care about, great, but don’t try to call it “high end.” By today’s standards, a GTS 250 is barely entry-level. I mostly use Corsair PSUs, and I’ve heard good things about Seasonic.
Sky’s suggestion is pretty good, with one exception. That ASRock board isn’t going to overclock for kitten, and will quite possibly be unable to handle the Phenom II even at stock voltages (3+1 phase VRM with no cooling=bad).
My recommendation for motherboard would be an Asus M5A99X EVO R2.0 or Gigabyte GA-990FX-UD3. It would add a bit of cost, but it’s well worth it IMO. If you just can’t afford the extra cost, at least go with a Gigabyte GA-78LMT-USB3. With that you should be safe with some overclocking at least, and you definitely won’t have problems at stock.
Now on to difficulty, it really is quite simple. Do some research ahead of time, and you’ll be fine. In many cases things only go together one way, so unless you’re acting like a monkey banging things together, it’s hard to do it wrong. There are lots of resources and communities out there (Tom’s Hardware, AnandTech, Reddit build a pc, etc.) that you can turn to.
Alot more than one exception the DDR3 video card the processor the HDD and the very cheap CX series power supply do you know who makes the CX series? The processor in my build will beat the AMD no mater what you overclock it to and if I remeber right they were no aftermarket coolers listed . You might get 3.8 out of it with a stock cooler but that would be pushing it. The stock 3470 would still stomp on that for this game.
Do yourself a favor and save up $200 more to buy good parts and not need to spend alot more sooner. Includes the operating system you can leave that off if you have a 64bit one you can use. $713 http://pcpartpicker.com/p/Q486
This is with quality parts not the cheapest stuff you can buy like others have sugested.
Good CPU, PSU, HDD, MB, alot better video card than the DDR3 7750 sugested, 8GB of good memory duel chanel not a single stick that somebody sugested for a duel chanel board.
3 part video how to build a PC. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lPIXAtNGGCw http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d_56kyib-Ls http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RxaVBsXEiok
You sir are getting bad advice. FX8350 OC to 4.5GHz thinking you will need to bump up from 1.3 Volts to 1.4 with a 6850 video card will draw about 350 WATTS at full load!
I would be more concerned if the FX 8350 will work with the motherboard you have since you never listed it.
A 550 watt PSU is fine for my PC and with a 6850 video card their no reason for him to spend the $ upgrading his.
Yes because all chips are made equal and we are living in the world of pollyanna… even the slightest bump of Vcore is increasing voltage draw and heat obviously so I’m just assuming that you are not using an FX processor…
The 350 Watt figure I gave was including the extra 30 Watts for the overclock some people really need to figure out how many watts a PC really uses.
A 550 Watt power supply will power any single card PC on the market unless you just throw some bull kitten in their it will power a GTX680 or AMD 7970
Now to really set this straight here are my PC specs.
i5 2500k @ 4.4 GHz, H100 CPU cooler, 16GB 2133 ram, 2x SSD’s 1 HDD, 6970 video card, 10 LED case fans, 4 LED strips.
With GW2 running I draw a whopping 326 watts from the wall (Kill-A-Watt meter)
With a 85% efficency PSU that means its using a whopping 277 watts with this game running. Here are the picks of the game running and my meter. http://s1274.photobucket.com/user/Zerk2012/library/#/user/Zerk2012/library/?page=1&_suid=136527316702908169955982213668
During a full system stress test it draws less than 450 Watts.
People get so carzy when it comes to power supplies.
You sir are getting bad advice. FX8350 OC to 4.5GHz thinking you will need to bump up from 1.3 Volts to 1.4 with a 6850 video card will draw about 350 WATTS at full load!
I would be more concerned if the FX 8350 will work with the motherboard you have since you never listed it.
1st I dought that 2 core LT will get 50FPS in lions arch.
2nd never compair other games thats just kittened.
3rd make sure the video card is actually running @ x16 speed.
4th are you cranking up the shadows, reflections, and SS that kill the CPU?
Thank you both for the good information. I have another question as well. If i were to get a new motherboard and a new processor, would I have to upgrade my current version of windows? or re install windows?
If this was a store bought PC you could run into alot of problems. A link to the exact PC or the mother board model would help, also SATA HDD and CD/DVD player or IDE. The IDE is a thin cable about 1" wide sata is about 1/4" wide.
Agreed on the FX 6300 for the price compaired to spending double for a i5 that will net you almost nothing FPS wise. For black sun that was a good choice clock that baby up to about 4.5 and it will roll.
After more research, the GPU should be in the top slot. After putting it back in that slot, it now reads 2.0 16x @ 16x 2.0. I am now getting 50-100 fps at penitent camp where I originally was getting 15-25. It must have just been a bad seat or something like that, but it now works.
Thanks guys for all the help.
No problem Turn Vsynx on no need to overwork the video card.
You did check that with the game running right? It needs to be check with the game running or either click the ? on GPUz next to where you seen the x2 2.0 it will do a short test and see if it goes to x16.
There is no need for that. There is no problems in my GPU usage, core clock or memory clock. Trust me. I have checked it. And I have good knowledge of computers. No need to think im newbie on this.
This statement would say different
I don’t have anything to measure my GPU
Rampage was not looking for the actuall usage he was looking for the bus interface speed the card was running, IE x4 x8 or the propper x16 but oh well. And if this is not running at the propper speed it will kill the performance.
No worries it runs x16 speed.
How do you know that Gmoney’s card is running at x16
There is no need for that. There is no problems in my GPU usage, core clock or memory clock. Trust me. I have checked it. And I have good knowledge of computers. No need to think im newbie on this.
MY POST WAS DIRECT TO THE OP NOT YOU.
Rampage was not looking for the actuall usage he was looking for the bus interface speed the card was running, IE x4 x8 or the propper x16 but oh well. And if this is not running at the propper speed it will kill the performance.
Turn Vsynx on no need to overwork the video card.