Guild Wars 2

Is it even possible to keybind ‘Waypoint’? seriously these Viz guys are kitten quick at running away. As soon as they see you turn towards them they’re gone…

Never known as many people from a server so afraid to fight 1v1.

Resisting temptation to be un politically correct ….

To be fair Milton has been dangling his troll carrot the whole match up thread. Someone was bound to bite.

From a solo roamer’s perspective this week sucks ;p Some proper baddies include a pearl greatsword using ranger that ran away from me until he had 2 other friends (DSV guild or similar??) A group of 10 randoms that chased me from north camp to the centaur as if i’d deflowered one of their sisters. In fact you Pikeys are probably the worst I’ve encountered for adding into fights and not being solo.

If last weeks match up was a guide of how silver league will play out then the sooner the better, this is just daft atm.

Hora.1857:

a cond dmg reduce stat would be nice like thougness for direct dmg

I think the fact that there are so many ways to remove conditions (personal combined with group..everyone has at least one way to remove them) makes this a moot point. Those necro’s who’ve built a decent stack of cond’s ready to use epidemic just to see them disappear will agree with me

I will agree that 1v1 cond necro’s are very strong as there are very few classes that can remove multiple conds multiple times, but we can’t reset a fight or run away. (spec dependant ofc) You could always build more vitality into gear too, helps a bit

https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/wuv/recruitment/GH-Recruiting-1-or-2-Small-medium-SEA-Guilds Might suit your needs.

GH have fought Gandara, was during 1st couple weeks of live iirc. We had some ex SWTOR guildies in a guild on Gand and can remember fighting them.

Tsezar.6950:

i dont run with the tail betwenn my legs.i just dont fight against builds my build cant beat thats a difference. just testing if its beatable if not goodbye.. thats a big difference especially when retreating with full hp. but when you consider that as losing then i can consider this as lose as well: thiefs using shadow refuge, mesmer using mass invisible, eles using rtl away from enemy. you understand? in a duel it might be a lose but it isnt a duel its the real wvw and the loser is only the dead one

Because respawning and paying 3s is such a hardship???

By building in easy runaway mechanisms into your set up/build surely you never intend to fully commit to a fight that is 50/50. So your strategy is to run away from most fights. Kind of defeats the object of getting into a fight in the first place.

I wish there was some equalisation of movement skills and especially stability in the game then people would have to learn how to play outside of their 3 button iwin combo.

Golems Hold v Underwhine v Fort Runaway ’nTreb it.

Pretty much sums things up.

This whole thread sounds like a primary school playground. Seriously people, grow/man up a bit.

Don’t you Underworld guys whine alot. Awesome advertisement for your server.

FR, please stop running away and hiding in camps/behind seige in towers/porting to waypoints. If it’s you vs 1 other then do you really need to run to uneven the odds in your favour?

Little bit ragey about the whole cowardice thing shown by FR so far and last week DL.

Don’t take it to heart, it’s not a match up thread until someone moans about blobbing. We had our own blob going on yesterday afternoon once people came online. Masses of people retook garrison etc. I ended up getting bored and went solo to DL bl for a bit. The GH blob split and came for your garrison, that was a nice fight inside.

Anyway I’ll most likely be running about solo again in DL on my necro at some point, please don’t run off to towers/keeps/guards if you see me, just after a decent little fight

Strang.8170:

Sogradde.8016:

angry post

Your way of playing just happens to be absolutely boring, and lags the servers to hell…hence the complaints.

I think you must be referring to Millers right?

Sometimes GH manages to get enough people to help defend or attack an objective, but we do not run round in a WXP train. You’re trying to judge Gunners in a week where our BL has been hit by both AG and MS in huge numbers, when we’ve had to ‘work together (or as your derogatory term defines it- hand holding)’ to keep our bl from being overrun.

Gunners is one of the most open fighting servers out there, roaming is the heart of the server since the start. Unlike TUP our guilds view their fellow server mates as equals and work with them.

Sadly this attitude of yours reminds me of CIR, RG etc who seem to think the internets should bow down and worship them. Likelyhood is you’ll also become too awesome for the game and will have to quit and make sure everyone else knows about it.

GL in your next match up because it seems you will never be happy as other servers will not match that pedestal that you are holding yourselves so high upon.

Off to hold some hands and blob about a bit ><

Dark Lord Killer.9473:

You can’t compare the numbers of MS to those of AG in any way, MS has way more numbers than AG in terms of maximum, on top of that, MS has way more numbers than AG in terms of amount of hours with blobs per day. Also I’ve read back last weeks matchup thread and I haven’t seen anyone who bragged there and I’ve definetly not seen anyone who bragged there complain here now.

You miss the point kind sir, AG had the same scale difference numbers wise over DZ and GH that MS now have over AG. Therefore I can easily compare the scale of AG vs GH and MS vs AG. In terms of bragging you may have to check your own forum on that front. The inclination was that some people were all ’ fk yeah team AG! ’ when vs a lower population server and now it’s tears and hate when the boot is on the other foot.

Still don’t let it make you mad, tis only a bit of fun after work, if it winds you up this much then maybe it’s time to look for a more relaxing hobby?

all you need is love!

Yeah, tis a bit whiney this match up. I’d like to know when WvW = honourable combat between knights of old. Sometimes they enemy have more people, man up and deal with it as GH have had to since last year. Really disappointed with the hipocrasy of some people on AG, last week bragging about how they won their first match up in 11 weeks, this week moaning about MS who are in the same situation AG were in last week ie greater active numbers than the opposition.

Just get on with it, hopefully AG will move on to a different match up next week because currently the noise from AG is the same as a pram full of kids sans dummies.

Wamgor.9347:

As for gunners again, they provide a decent fight just a bit of excessive hand holding from time to time reminds me of SFR.

Thnx for the fights on reset, although it was pretty disappointing that everyone left our home borderland early(10pm+) and didn’t want to play :x and all the rest were still que’d.

I’d probably suggest it was more to do with people falling back to help their own BL (most likely from a GH perspective ) Or maybe they were just sat round a big campfire holding hands??

Should be interesting. Although a bad match up for us (GH) considering the numbers on both AG and Millers, still never stopped us having a go before!

Just remember to play nice and not pick on l’il old Gunnars!

The orb buff could be diffferent for defenders and attackers, and only be in effect in a specific BL. IE apply speed buff to dolys/upgrades for defending team + MF boost,+dmg to – dmg from guards for attacking team + MF boost. as an example.

The altar should be in open world rather than in a keep. OR someone could need to carry the orb like a bundle for the buff to be in effect.

The benefit of this would be to add an extra element to WvW. I really thought the idea of orbs was great and added an extra strategic element to wvw gameplay.

I’m not a fan of ‘duels’ as such, but if i see an enemy player then i’m going to have a go.

If I’m wandering about solo I expect to meet up with groups and get squished (lol at the need for hammer warriors to mash you when it’s 5+ vs 1 tho ) when I meet another solo player I’d like the chance of a ‘fair fight’ without people jumping in when both people fighting are low health and the fight can go either way.

I certainly don’t ever want ‘duels’, just for people to respect the fact that 2 people are probably enjoying a close ‘real’ fight and might not want you to come steaming in.

It’s a bit disappointing to see how many people are keen to avoid fights until the odds are in their favour(thinking of an [FG] ranger in Piken BL earlier) or people that add to a nice 1v1. Are people that desperate for badges?

Worst of all is the TIA thief that needs to wait until someone has 3 guards on them to attack, you sir are terrible as you still managed to get downed two seperate times while i was fighting you + guards.

Bit of a grumble and yes I know it’s war etc, but seriously, man up a bit people

Right, enough of this techno bashing you tree hugging muddy funsters! Spent many a memorable night in the 90’s flailing about like i’m giving the ‘danger’ signal in team america (vague to avoid obvious infringement). Mind you they don’t do it like they used to… I remember when you used to get ear bleeding techno, botttled water, bus fare home and still have change from £20!

erm, yeah back on topic been a good match up in general. Hope the reset doesn’t add too much randomness to the match up, it’s quite cute seeing RoS all ragey at Gunnars

Shouldn’t wxp be accumulated as a result of normal play and NOT forced or manipulated by Pve’ing your way to a title? The wxp ranks could be reduced easily to compensate for the loss of event wxp.

You should not be able to PvE your way to a WvW rank. That is what is happening currently.

Basically since the March patch people are just zerging around the map in groups of 20+ capping supply camps and sentries to farm wxp. While in essence this is an obvious by product of introducing a levelling environment to WvW, it’s turned the borderlands into a merry-go-round of WXP farmers steamrolling camps rather than attempting to capture anything significant.

If WXP was removed from the smaller objectives for groups greater than 10 or removed entirely then people may start to focus on the game rather than the rewards.

Maybe if a larger bonus was applied to defending/ attacking the keeps with diminishing returns/long cooldowns on awarding wxp.

I still like the idea of a wxp system, I just think the current execution of wxp has created an exploiters/farmers dream similar to the dolyak escorting of days of old.

So in summary of this match up…

The FSP blob has been contagious causing outbreaks of blobs in Gandara and AG. The Gandaran and AG blobs are vying for blob supremacy with the FSP blobs and this has caused concern for people unaffected by the blob. These anti-blobites encounter opposing blobs and then consider the event to be so traumatic they are forced to voice their anger at the situation on the forums.

Now I’m a logical kind of guy. If there’s a ‘blob’ attacking Bay in a borderland and there’s only 15-20 of you, would it not make more sense to go for the NE tower? which you’d have capped before they even notice you were there due to no orange swords and the extra gravity caused by blob v blob combat. You could put yourselves in a position to cut off re-inforcements from their main spawn point back to the blob vs blob event.

You could even become one with the blob! There’s plenty of options, I just don’t get this hostility towards the blob. Although there was one week of the month with my ex, she was evil, I hated the blob then…

Anyway, maybe be a bit more imaginative than joining the being cool blob bashing train, blobs have feelings too

Wall of reflection, judges intervention and save yourselves for skill slots. Greatsword/ Sword & Focus. Helps to have the 100% burn on block ability also.

Firstly pop save yourselves for speed, retaliation + fury etc. You have 4 gap closers (inc GS 5) use judges 1st as longest cd and scares the crap out of them, use these then hide behind WoR while the cd’s are coming back up (plus it forces them to move close to get around the wall) you also have sword #3 which blocks projectiles and focus #5 which is a block. Focus 4 is a blind also.

If you PvE guys spent a bit of time organising 20 players for WvW you’d take most POI’s with ease. The toughest would be Garrison, but it’s doable. I mean you all seem to appear out of no-where when a dragon pops up…why can’t you do the same in WvW?

Effort = reward.

AG v Gunnars v Piken or Gandara. Now that would be stuff of legend, I’d take a week off work for that.

I’d offer 2 suggestions. Aurora Glade is a great server, decent numbers and some good organised large guilds with a server mumble for co-ordination.The smaller guilds /individuals are not yet as organised but they are getting alot better. A good community and forum too.

Secondly I’d suggest Gunnar’s Hold. A lower population but they have better small guild organisation and only one big guild of note. Gunnars also have server comms and a great community.

Either server will make a nice home for you in my opinion.

I’ve noticed we(AG) really struggle without a Commander present, hence the loss of nearly the whole map yesterday evening. This is a great match up though and Gandara seem good opponents. Not seen much of Dzagonur yet, but it seems pretty close this week, should be good fun.

Genotix.6804:

You guys are acting like Xaoc are some kind of monsters or the black sheep of a lovely family. These guys are normal people who just wants to play the game like all of us.
From what i remember back in October where we faced them, they were a preety organised guild, we didn’t have any flame wars at the forums and they were the main reason we lost to Blacktide back then.
All of you holy warriors of fair play, flaming people because they welcomed Xaoc. Really?
Is it so bad to welcome someone who joins your server?

It was Xaoc that dragged away half of GH’s wvw active numbers to Blacktide in the first place. Had they not dragged away the active portion of the [INT] alliance then the picture on GH would be very different now. GH only lost to Blacktide due to the nightime pvdooring.

I want to see GH rebuild as it’s a fantastic server, but the damage this guild did to GH is unforgivable, to see them joining the server makes me feel a bit sick inside…. BUT I understand needs must and hope it does help bring a bit more activity to WvW on Gh.

I would recommend you gear towards power/toughness if you enjoy rifle. Pick up as much power/tough/vit gear from karma vendors/ badges as poss. Fill the blanks with knights gear. I personally prefer to slot Emerald orbs in my gear rather than the runes, just seems to offer a better balance of stats. There are arguments for and against this ofc, it’s my personal pref.

Same for jewellry although I have slotted a couple of berserkers pieces to up the precision count.

I also use the guild cloak which offers a good stat balance for wvw. I have around 1700+ toughness atm, and while it’s by no means making me invincible, it sure helps.

As others have mentioned some decent defensive cd’s are always handy, elixir S saves lives, as does toolkit #4. Don’t forget grenade 3 for blinds (very easy to double tap to drop close to you if you are being melee’d.

With the changes to grenades I’m considering going back to P/S and focusing on power/cond dmg. Although not quite convinced yet

I would say to get grenades asap for underwater PvE. Rifle is also good, I levelled with pistols and managed to aoe alot of mobs, but I also pulled alot of adds with piercing and the pistol #3. Low lv weps are cheap so try them all, see how you get on

Are we talking pvp/wvw or PvE? As cond’s are so easily removed in PvP coupled with the generally short duration of engi conditions kind of put me off this stat set. Initial impressions for me are that cond dmg/power would be a better choice to do as much dmg as possible before the cond gets ‘knocked off’.

My ele is still little (lv 10 ish) but you really need to be switching atunements regularly and use the cc or mobility from each attunement.

Using D/D as an example, in Air, pop the shield(#3) ride the lightening to the enemy(or group of enemies) use the #2 for weakness. Switch to earth, pop arcance shield to block, cast earth 5, earth 3 + 4 for the stun and earth 2 for more aoe dmg, then go into fire, heal if needed and finish them off.

First time through on an ele in beta I stuck to staff, I can say D/D is so far much more fun and far easier to deal with multiple mobs.

I think the best way to view the rifle is as a compliment to your choice of kit slots, not as a focus to a build.

I will say this is purely from a WvW perspective, I don’t PvE.

Rifle is just one set of abilities which have their uses, there are potentially 15 other (weapon toolbar) abilities that could be used in conjunction with rifle + toolbelt skills.

Surely the comprehensive view would be which kits compliment the rifle set up? i.e power, precision. and how that build as a whole(including kits and toolbelt skills) compares to a rifle warrior than just the 5 skill choices while rifle is equipped?

Just seems that people are dumbing down engi skills to the warrior’s level.

Stand out guilds for me this match up have been TDA and SOE. I don’t know how you managed it but you always seemed to have a great showing when I’ve seen you in the zones. We(LoE)were always in enemy BL’s on Gunnars so maybe missed you, but it seemed as though your guilds really put the effort in this match up.

We(LoE) have just joined AG from Gunnar’s Hold. In the last match up we faced UW who seemed far too reliant of running as a zerg rather than employing sound tactics. (imo).

We have been very impressed with AG, while the server could do with a bit more co-ordination it seems this is work in progress atm and things seem to be coming together nicely. Good numbers and a decent core of WvW guilds while still having enough people in PvE to ensure the events succeed.

As has been mentioned we’re skipping a tier this week heading straight into a match vs Gandara and Augery Rock it seems. So could do with a few more numbers here. Am impressed with the server and pleased with our move as a guild.

Krosan.2890: Still don’t get why guilds would hop to a server to only win by nightcapping and outnumbering their opponents 3:1. I think for most guilds loyal to Rof its more about the fights, tactics etc then about zerging or playing PvDoor an entire night and run into like 3 defenders. ~

In this match up I agree, but in T5 we will be facing similar opponents with night teams and similar numbers.

As has been mentioned, some fantastic fighting from GH this week, nice to see some of the PvE guilds out and about finally.

I’m in two minds about rumours of other guilds moving, part of me hopes they come join us on AG, and part of me hopes they can keep going on GH.

I suppose the best analogy is that of a footballer switching from his home team. He’ll support the home team but still devote 100% for the team he is playing with.

5 players are not enough to get things done. Not when everything is upgraded and the opposition have enough brains to be in a zone defending, the merest sniff of some action and it’s a 30 man zerg heading your way.

It’s still fun at times to hold them off, but more often than not you’re just wasting your time. The most fun I’ve had in a small group is in the jumping puzzles, sadly it’s a very selfish fun as it contributes nothing to the realm achievements…but then does capping a camp and holding it for 30 secs?

Saying 5 man groups can contribute on their own is fairydreamland in our current match up

BUT it’s still worth getting those 5 men/women/vegetarians to team up with another 5, and possibly another 5. Thats when you can start making a real difference in borderlands.

Roo Stercogburn.9671:

The core WvW guilds/players still on GH will give most a run for their money.

The only thing missing is numbers. One way or another that will be sorted as a community.

In terms of WvW, we’ve actually lost all the guilds that are difficult or need quick fixes and what remains are solid team players with a lot of loyalty to each other, despite being spread across many guilds.

The next step forward will be taken as a community.

There are only 2 outcomes next:

1) The remaining WvW players stay on GH. This means some tough times but a great core/corps of players.

2) The remaining WvW migrate to another server. Some other server just got really, really lucky. I don’t mean some ‘Big I Am’s just dropped by, but a core of people determined to work with any and all so that the overarching team wins and bring some very devious players to the mix.

I am unconcerned about our future. We just have some admin to take care of.

Pretty much this.

The community of GH is pretty awesome I think the community as a whole has a right to take hold of it’s own future be it on GH or as Roo Says, one very lucky server

Whatever happens the GH WvW community won’t stop fighting.

Well, so far this week has been great. Some very nice fights vs AG and AM. Although AG have been the better of the two in my honest opinion

As for Gunnars Hold as a server, things are coming together nicely, a good spirit in WvW, and we’re still dominant when we get people in the zones.

Had our second ‘event’ night yest which went well, had a bit of golem death squad fun…well sadly it was the golem squad that died due to an unlucky sandwich between AM holding a fully upgraded hills and AG attacking in force from the rear

All good fun though!

Any guilds looking for short Queues and an organised server that offers some great mid table mash ups should consider checking us out

It’s not up to other servers to report/kill YOUR bots. What about the field of flesh wurms? Flying mesmers?

You guys need to start taking control of your server rather than ignoring the fact that you have a large contingent of cheaters/ abusers.

We can’t report them, you can. Keep your own house clean or your server will forever be the one with the bad reputation.

Been a productive week I think. Server seems to be co-operating alot more and have had some fancastic fights with FR and Gandara.

Looking forward to meeting you guys again on our way back up in a couple of weeks

Our only downfall was coverage. So if you fancy hard fought battles with a never give up mentality and 0-10 min queues for WvW then consider coming to GH

Hoping for a decent bit of opposition again in WvW. Was good fun in FR Bl’s yest even if outnumbered for most of the eve

There are plenty of counters to portals, (ie if awake drop a crate on it, drop aoe snares etc, focus aoes)and as people have said if you don’t sweep for mesmers after taking a keep/tower then it’s your own fault.

I think it adds an extra level to the game that no other ‘rvr’ type game has ever had, and makes it far more interesting as a result. Think this is basically a case of be smarter.

A player limit though would be fairer, but all that would do is make mesmers even more essntial than they are currently.

Yet more orb hacking in our match ups. It’s obviously one person trolling surely people can see who is doing this and report them?

Will try and get people focused to pay attention should it happen again, as said before this has nothing to do with ‘cheating’ by GH. It’s one kid with nothing better to do than free transfer around the servers and troll. There needs to be a 1 week transfer cooldown at the very least imo.

Our first server wide wvw meeting this eve, representatives from at least 25 guilds in attendance. Fantastic attitudes from all involved, everyone keen to move gunnars forward in terms of working as a unit and sharing strategies and information.

Really looking forward to the next match up as not only is the server at a key community growth and bonding point, but we’re likely to be matched with servers with similar timezone activity.

The server event should be epic, some nice plans suggested for it

Anyone looking for a good ego free community from any timezone might want to check us out this week

GJ to all involved in returning the orb. Proof positive that GH is blossoming into a fantastic server community.!!

Also quick reminder that the server event WILL be happening next week (early part). Obviously can’t give details here so be sure to pop over to the GH forum as linked several times in this thread

Well it seems gunnars is an easy target and has been trolled by said hacker. If someone does see them do it report them, name and shame them in chat, and IF they are guilded make sure their guild leader knows.

I have a feeling this is a side effect of free transfers but don’t want to get tinfoil hat about it. It’s more than likely to be some kid thinking he’s helping…

Anyway be assured that we’ll sort it…but chances are the guy’s already left the server

Did this really have to get dragged into THIS thread?

It’s quite obvious that this is not a server planned event so why accuse a whole server of cheating?

There’s another thread to deal with this. Rest assured if we identify the hacker they WILL be reported.

Think before you post drama in an unrelated thread.

Anyone thats ever owned a kitten will know they are not harmless.

They perform jedi mind tricks on you by making you think that them savaging the sofa is ‘cute’, they jump on you from across the room claws out purely to troll you, and the smell that eminates from the poo that they purposely leave uncovered in the litter tray is enough to make a grown man cry.

Pink unicorns and rainbows are harmless, kittens are in fact little balls of pure evil!