Guild Wars 2

I see nothing in this game has changed for the better. Color me surprised.

I think my eyes have ruptured from the horrific spelling in this thread.

Pendragon.8735:

Wow never thought I’d see someone praising WAR in relation to GW2. What I remember is the game was a buggy incomplete mess with nothing delivering on what they promised, fine as the ambitions might have been.

While your comment about WAR may be true, another truth (for me, personally) is that I have yet to have anywhere near the amount of fun in GW2, as I did in WAR. I truly had a blast in that game, and was sad it crashed and burned so badly. Ultimately, I played Warhammer for almost two years, the same won’t be said for this game.

LowestTruth.2635:

Edit: What I find REALLY funny is that I’ve never reported or blocked anyone based on a name, even on an RP server.

What, exactly, would you even report someone for? It’s not as if there are any official RP servers. What I find really funny, in a sad, pathetic way, is that people are actually reporting other people, simply because they don’t like their names. Offensive names are one thing, but to report someone on the basis of non-lore, or breaking immersion? Seriously?

John Widdin.9618:

Among all the kitten flinging, I’m not sure if anyone has pointed out, there’s sort of a soft trinity.

Bruiser, Dps, Support

One Bruiser, and one support makes a world of difference in ease of the dungeon. Along with proper combo field usage.

This. I admit, I do get a giggle over the whole, “I love/hate the lack of trinity” when it hasn’t really gone anywhere. Even one of the devs referred to bunker builds as tanks at least twice in the last AMA. The only things that make it appear as a lack of trinity, is no outright dedicated healers, and an rng agro table.

DarcShriek.5829:

Now tell me this thread isn’t about too much content and too many choices. Really, you guys act all serious about this. You folks crack me up.

It would be funnier if the content was actually good.

This is the best thread I have ever read on this forum.

I find this a little ironic, since all updates thus far have been pve centric. The pvpers get kitten.

The Betrayer.4893:

i would like to say just this. if a legendary was easy to get it wont be called a legendary. nor would i want to see a bunch of people running around wielding them

And I just want to say this … again. There is nothing legendary about buying something from the TP. Also, you’re a few months too late to not be seeing a bunch of people running around with them. People have 3+ already, better get crackin’.

takkattak.1974:

Does anyone else have reasons why they dont like culling?

I’m guessing you haven’t been to WvW yet. Have fun with that.

Celtic Lady.3729:

I have so many basic transmutation stones, it’s ridiculous. There is next to nothing for me to use them for. I really wish I could somehow trade these in for the fine ones. Even a trade ratio of 10 or 25 basics per fine would give me something I can actually use. lol

I would be so all over that. +1 for you!

Vayne.8563:

Likewise, if they wanted people to spend money on gems for gold, why would they continually give out things like black lion trading kits and transmutation stones from things like dailies and zone completion. I get so much of that stuff I never have to buy it. If they were so greedy, those rewards never had to have been introduced.

Maybe you get items continually, but not everyone does. I’ve been playing since head start, and I’ve gotten two bl salvaging kits from the daily. I’ve never gotten any fine transmutation stones from a daily or map completion, does that even happen? I have plenty of basic transmutation stones from map completion, but they’re only usable on level 79 and below gear, so I imagine everyone has plenty that they will never use. Most of the bl items I’ve received, have come from bl chests during head start, I haven’t really opened many since then. Bottom line, my daily rewards generally consist of a mystic coin and a jug of karma. I might see a third item every six weeks or so. I don’t consider that “continually.”

Winfernal.9208:

whipplerama.3692:

Winfernal.9208:

Nope.

When the dungeons are this easy and quick to finish, the DR should remain.

Of course, because every player in the game runs dungeons.

When it comes to a game altering feature like DR, majority rules.

I wasn’t aware there were any numbers reflecting the majority are dungeon runners. You might be right though, most of the serious pvpers are long gone. Perhaps the open worlders will be following.

Winfernal.9208:

Nope.

When the dungeons are this easy and quick to finish, the DR should remain.

Of course, because every player in the game runs dungeons.

Ok, I’ve finally stopped laughing long enough to respond. NO.

Chickenshoes.6250:

ITT; people want the super-rare epic item to be far less rare and epic.

I sure hope that when I get a legendary not everybody is running around with it cuz Anet caved to the whiny.

What is rare and epic about buying something from the TP? Oh, and I see plenty of people running around with them, some people have at least 3. Not so legendary anymore.

The loot is a lie.

Kumu Honua.2751:

That’s the way it is in every MMO that I have played (Perhaps not EVE. That game was a whole other ball of wax.)

I think if some players here had spent any time in Warhammer, the player names alone would have sent people screaming and trying to scoop up their exploded eyeballs.
True story.

Geotherma.2395:

If every dev upped loot just because some people had bad luck.. we might as well have 1 mmo, that allows you to use godmode commands and infinite loot. So we can beat it in a month and own everything. This is the least difficult, easiest farming, simplist grinding game I’ve ever played in 15 years. They gave you an answer, they did not nerf anything. Then on top of that JUST to please people calling them names and garbage, they said they would continue using resources and time and money on making sure there is nothing wrong. So instead of working on content, working on bugs that matter, they are working to appease the tin foil hat crowds from rage-quiting over ignorance. Seriously, threads like this are a reason some people never look at forums. No respect for peoples work, namecalling, and conspiracy theories, might as well call this GW2 forums-Jerry Springer style.

Here is the easy to read child’s version:

NO ONE in this thread has asked for “upped loot” only the equivalent loot the majority of players are apparently receiving. I truly do not know what is so difficult to understand about that. Closed mind is closed.

I’m entirely too annoyed to truly address the latest direction this thread has taken. I will say, a crash course in PR is sorely needed, among other things. Realize the age of the first generation gamers playing your game, and adjust accordingly, i.e., I am not twelve, lacking in intelligence or common sense, nor that easily placated.

My RNG has been in the toilet for three months. That’s some long lasting bad luck. Like never ending gobstopper long lasting. But it’s good to know it’s not actually my account. So, I must assume receiving 5 blues, 13 whites and bags full of trash is normal for 8 hours of playtime. Every single time I play. And it’s really the people reporting multiple exotic and rare drops daily that are actually the ones that have perception issues. Laurels will solve all my problems. Crazy, over the rainbow ….

Helpful tip to complete the dodge daily: Golems. When they do that attack where they’re shooting rapidly with both arms, dodge. You can get 4/5 evades out of one single dodge.

Lotsa control issues here. Why does anyone care how somebody else plays the game? I will do what I like to do, period. That might include suiciding 1001 times a day if I so choose, just because. Haven’t done it yet, but I probably will now. Toodles.

Bishop.7839:

2. Contract DaoC RvR devs to consult with the WvWvW team.

Oh, yes please. Prior to launch, watching all the vids, I so thought this was what I was getting.

And yes to flushing DR, I am so tired of being impacted by an unacknowledged bug.

I could probably build a full scale replica of the Taj Mahal with the brittle/porous bones I’ve gotten today. Not that it’s different then any other day. Because it’s not.

marnick.4305:

I do not know why you have something against blue collar work, but these get paid pretty well in Belgium and Germany.

I have absolutely nothing against blue collar work, as they are the ones who do kitten near everything. But in the US, the salary is … average, and sometimes not even that. I have lived in coal mining areas, and their pay, considering the dangerous nature of the job, is less than impressive. In fact, most coal mining towns are very economically depressed areas.

You really want to make a case in point here? I’ll indulge you. On the same evening, a man wears a custom tailored suit that costs around 500€ at the bare minimum. Nothing wrong with that. Any blue collar worker can pay that. It’s not much.

Again, in the US, $500 can be quite the significant expense for your average family.

We are in the same boat. I do not pay for premium items when equal quality/functionality items are far cheaper. I only have an iPhone because I got one for free. My girlfriend wears mostly second hand clothing. When I spend a premium IRL, I actually want premium functionality. I consider my lifestyle far more healthy than people who always want the latest fad, but I do recognize the prevalent attitude that pointless items tend to be the most expensive.
Instead of a love letter, I once sent a Telegram. That cost me 30€ instead of 1€. Sometimes, it makes me happy to spend money on stupid stuff, but I don’t make it a habit.

Indeed, we are in the same boat. I am frugal by nature, although generous with loved ones. The current real world economy encourages me to be even more frugal, and it seems to have followed me into the game.

That being said, the correct price point is not an individual decision but rather the sum of all individual decisions that make for the market price. You may disagree with the market, and that does in fact influence the market price, but on the other hand, many people apparently agree with the current market prices. As an individual, you should recognize that, even if you don’t agree.

Yes … my most expensive dye cost a few silver. I advocate modesty. It does not mean I want a free Ferrari instead of my beautiful Seat which makes me equally happy.

Well, I don’t know how many people are caving to current market prices, but I of course realize people will, whether or not I feel it’s an intelligent decision. If I was willing to part with the rare dyes I’ve collected, I’m sure I’d make quite the killing. As it is, I barely get any drops, so they stay with me. No, I don’t want anything for free, like you I make do with what I have, and it’s good enough.

marnick.4305:

On a medium profile evening… Lowballing all prices of course

Expensive dress: ~600
Shoes: ~150
Lingerie: ~150
Haircut and dye job: ~50
2 Rings: ~130 each
Necklace: ~100

I leave it up to you to add the prices together. Only the dress is up for debate in this list, that could go anywhere from 20€ to 2000€ depending on how lucky she is in finding something that fits her.

With cosmetics I meant everything that artificially improves her look.

Ah, so now it’s the “average” (you stated the average woman in your op) woman on a medium profile evening. Speaking as your average woman, the above list is still absurd. Assuming average = middle class. If you’re speaking of another class, then we aren’t speaking of your “average” woman. Although in recent years, average is sliding into blue collar or lower. These days, women are trying to feed their families, not spending 150 bucks on underwear. Also, not every woman dyes their hair.

marnick.4305:

As for a man… a car and iPad serves the same functionality.

The average man doesn’t wear clothes? Where do you live?

marnick.4305:

My point stands. The highest premiums are paid for cosmetic items without inherent added value. As such, I believe precursors and abyss dye are at a more or less correct price point.

Maybe so. However, not everyone is willing to pay the highest premiums for cosmetic items. Personally, I think it’s stupid, but that’s just me. The last dye I purchased was for 7 copper.
Anywho, my point stands as well. The recent dramatic price increase for dyes is unlikely a natural progression, and more likely speculation. Whether or not they are at the correct price point is an individual decision. And my decision is hell no.

Solid Gold.9310:

The thing that does strike me, some armour is really ugly, especially the human female, and the terrible colours and colour combinations some of you guys choose, pink, really, on a big brave warrior, come on, have you not got girlfriends/wives.

No, I don’t have a girlfriend or a wife. I know it’s sad. I do have a husband though. Oh, what’s that? Females are actually playing a video game? Yes, yes they are. And some of us like pink, although I prefer a nice lilac. My warrior looks lovely in lilac.

Although the possibility my color choices might offend someone never actually occurred to me. Probably because it’s irrelevant.

Syeria.4812:

By all means, let’s permanently and completely change the structure and behavior of drops because of a temporary bug that will be fixed with high priority.

Thanks for the laugh, this thread was making me feel like I needed a decades long scalding shower. With bleach.

marnick.4305:

An average woman has around 1000€ of cosmetics on her body.

No. No she doesn’t. That’s absurd.

Let’s just admit that the prices are this high because people are anticipating a price crash after laurels are implemented.

I’m starting to wonder if I’ve fallen into 1984.

I miss my wolf from Warhammer. Actually, I just miss Warhammer.

AwwGee.5628:

If you’re playing the game like Anet wants you to be doing i.e. Moving on to new content after completing 1, instead of farming 1 event or 1 dungeon path for hours on end, there should be no problem at all.

Nice in theory, but definitely not what’s happening.

Slightly over 1000 hours, never had an exotic drop, never had a lodestone drop. But hey, congrats to all the lucky people with multiples.

Sligh.2789:

IMHO, play the game instead of farming the hell out of one area, you will be rewarded.

If only.

Leamas.5803:

This seems to help some, but not others. I’ve never been much of a farmer as I don’t do well with a great deal of repetition. However, even moving around zones, doing random events, killing everything, deer, spiders, rats, rabbits, etc, I still get mostly vendor junk. Other than a few events I like, which I might do a couple times if I happen to be in the area, the only time I usually repeat events is if the event failed, which should not trigger DR IMO. I’ve said this a number of times…I’ll take the bots back any day over the current state of the loot system/TP.

Exactly. For the past two and a half months, I have done nothing but map completion on several characters. I clear a map, and move on to the next. No dawdling, no farming. Since I’m usually solo, I get a good amount of kills doing hearts, de’s, vets, champs, whatever. My drops are abysmal, all the time. Across three 80’s and one almost 80, and about 900+ hours since bwe1, I have yet to see an exotic or lodestone drop. Hell, I’ve only had one core drop. I’m lucky if I see 2 dyes a week. Seeing a green drop these days gets me excited. I wish I was kidding.

When I was leveling my 80’s, my bags would need to be emptied multiple times while on the same map. Now, I can get through several maps without needing to see a vendor. The difference is huge. My spouse, also doing map completion the past two months, has noticed a loot nerf in general, but still receives drops better and more often than I. He can’t even believe how awful my drops have been for so long. In fact, when I first noticed & mentioned this issue to him back in November, he had no idea what I was talking about. So whatever the problem ( and there IS a problem) it’s affecting everyone differently. And it makes no sense.

I’ve dealt with it all this time, but I grow weary. Knowing that while I’m playing and getting not much of anything, plenty of people have no issue and are raking in the mats, the exotics, and gold. And I fall further and further behind. It makes me sad, I wanted this game to be all that.

Right now I feel like I can ignore the game as long as they ignore there’s a problem. The steam sale was awesome.

I think the whole GOTY thing is a moot point anyway. Who takes them seriously? Everyone knows it’s like any other award in the ‘entertainment industry’ … who you know, who you blow, and who you give your dough.

When my spouse and I exchange gold/items in the mail, the body of the mail generally consists of dirty talk. I don’t imagine gold sellers have the time or the inclination to titillate their customers in such a fashion.

Of course, I could always get banned for solicitation bwahahaha.

Awesome.6120:

Power.2957:

And the saga continues…

I’ll never stop beating myself up for not screenshotting the dev I asked in game about the snowflake recipe who responded “get it while it’s hot.”

http://i.imgur.com/0SICA.jpg

Something similar.

So …. anyone wondering how many earrings the General made & what he did with them?

So what’s the status regarding this issue? It’s been over a week since it was initially reported, and we were told it would be looked into, in a response during the AMA.

Further discussion available here:
https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/game/gw2/Change-in-loot-parameters-or-a-bug-Merged

Although I don’t know why the thread was merged into an inappropriate forum.

Tobias Trueflight.8350:

That’s fine with me, you are perfectly entitled to do so. Heck, any of you are. Just three things.

- If someone asks you why and you can’t come up with a reason, they have the right to shrug and say “well, okay, then bye” without you getting annoyed or starting the name-calling up.
- If someone wants to discuss something with you and they don’t have the facts straight, or if someone on your own side is mistaken, correct them without calling them an idiot. Conversely, if they’re trying to offer something they think is worth looking at as far as things go . . . don’t just go dismissing it out of hand as propaganda and lies.
- If you want to voice your opinion with the intent of getting it changed, you have to be clear, concise, and polite about what you think is wrong. Using words which get changed to a cat-like one isn’t a help.

Actually, I agree with you. And I’ll assume your post wasn’t directed towards me, but towards posters in general, as I have been guilty of none of the points you addressed.

Silentstorm.7531:

For one whining itself is care bear regardless of the subject people should man up.

This is so classic, I just had to address it.

This attitude is one of the main things wrong in the world today. You’re conditioned from birth to just go with the flow, don’t rock the boat, don’t question anything, don’t take a stand, just be a good little citizen, obey and don’t you dare complain. About anything. Just keep bending over and taking it. Then you grow old all hunched over, from spending your whole life in the bent over position.

In my point of view, “manning up” is the exact opposite of shutting up and taking it.
But what do I know, I’m not a man.

People who pay for a product, and are disappointed in said product, have every right to voice their displeasure.

slazzy.7309:

But make no mistake. Fundamental design requires character progression and reward.

No, no it doesn’t. All I want, is to kill people. Killing people with skill, as opposed to gear, is all the reward I need. I haven’t been brainwashed by WoW, thanks.

Rhydian.5412:

I WILL NOT SUFFER RAIDERS

Best line ever.

xiv.7136:

Someone having +3% stats compared to me is not going to change the outcome of fights.

Ascended and infusion rewards will be available in both PvE and WvW over time, and be made available through all sorts of content around the world including existing content. PvP will remain unaffected to ensure our intended PvP balance going forward.

Quoted from https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/info/news/A-message-from-our-Studio-Design-Director-Chris-Whiteside/first#post721451

Oh, but I’m sure that’s all in the interpretation.

DegoLocc.5976:

Or for that matter, just name one true MMO that there is no gear progression, and all players are equal.

You talked about “proven experience and evidence” supporting your claim that gear progression is bad for MMO’s. So let’s see it? I’ll wait.

You seem unaware that many people bought this game because Anet hyped no gear progression, and all players are equal. Apparently, there is a large audience this concept appeals to. Including me. I LOVED the thought of wvw and pvp that was skill based and not gear based.

In other games, I’ve been the player in crap gear and the player in top tier gear. The difference top tier gear made was astounding. I don’t care how skilled you were, I could own a lower geared player without thought or effort. Gear always makes a difference. And before you say Ascended gear won’t make a difference, keep in mind the developer comment that Ascended gear will not be available in pvp, so as not to upset the pvp balance. Might hurt tournaments/e-sports, and we can’t be having that.

DegoLocc.5976:

Take gear progression out the game, might as well take gear out the game, and then what do you have? Super smash bros on a large scale? Another arcade beat em up. Stat progression with gear, gives battles interesting variables.

Skill vs. skill gives battles interesting variables, not gear vs. gear. I can go anywhere for that type of play, and have. I bought GW2 based on the amazing concept of skill vs. skill. Although naked wvw could be interesting.

critickitten.1498:

whipplerama.3692:

How does everyone forget what happened with Spore? That was a review bomb of epic proportions, to the extent that Amazon deleted hundreds of reviews. Didn’t matter, the damage had been done, and rightfully so.

….very poor choice of examples.

Why? Because it’s an EA game, and people hardly need an excuse to attack EA.

But even with that review bombing, what happened?
1) Spore still sold about a million copies.
2) Its success led to several (very bad) spinoff games on the Wii, DS, and mobile devices.
3) It’s already announced that a film adaptation will occur at some point in the future.

Might want to find a better example.

Yes, EA is evil incarnate, that’s not news. However, about a million copies for a game that was hyped beyond belief, from the creator of the Sims. Not that impressive really, and certainly not in any way what was anticipated.

Points 2 and 3 are irrelevant to the topic at hand, which is bad game reviews and how they impact people’s purchasing decisions. Kinda the whole purpose of product reviews, really. They work, whether you care to admit it, or not. I never buy a game without researching it first, simply because so many are bad.

I think my example is just fine, thank you.

How does everyone forget what happened with Spore? That was a review bomb of epic proportions, to the extent that Amazon deleted hundreds of reviews. Didn’t matter, the damage had been done, and rightfully so.

Chris Whiteside.6102:

Ascended and infusion rewards will be available in both PvE and WvW over time, and be made available through all sorts of content around the world including existing content. PvP will remain unaffected to ensure our intended PvP balance going forward.
Chris Whiteside – Studio Design Director

This line right here:

PvP will remain unaffected to ensure our intended PvP balance going forward.

Tells me all I need to know.

If it would cause an imbalance in PvP, it stands to reason it would be imbalanced elsewhere. Like WvWvW. Apparently, that’s not an issue. It should be.