Maybe i am mistaken, but doesn’t everyone look alike… save gear design?
You are mistaken. Unless your bandwidth is REALLY terrible.
I haven’t played since august, honestly. No progression in WvW = i quit
On the surface everything sounds great.. However, there is just one thing that must be tested and made sure to work as you intend it to, that is. ZERGING CANNOT be the best way to rank up or get points. It needs to be based on points per kill etc.. A smaller group gets more points for kills etc…
EG… Zerg of 15 people get dps on 1 person … they should get next to nothing..
If a 3 man party runs up into 4 people and wins, without getting AJ’d etc.. (i know unlikely). They should get the most points. Zerging should get points, but the most ranks, achievement “points” or bonuses should go to whichever group does the most damage to the target.
The reason why there is so many issues is because there is no room for small man roaming pvp in this game. It could be there, and it could be so good. But, it just missed on a few levels.
Also, when you target someone it should say [xxxxx] invader Isan Vakten from Stormbluff Isle . the [xxxxx] part should show up in your little chat window with the players name.
Also will there ever be unique players in WvW? IF I dye my character all green. Shouldn’t the opposition see an all green player? ,Maybe i am mistaken, but doesn’t everyone look alike… save gear design?
How about allowing the option to show your name?
It’s nice, but it’s not finished. allow player names, and you’re as close to DAOC as you’ve come.. or at least allow when you target someone it says their name in your chat window like it did in daoc….
Better solution, new class called the eldritch who can PBOA for the win, that was why the zerg was rocked in daoc. Mindless zerging is no fun and absolutely skill-less
That’s about the only way, if they did actually copy daoc instead of doing the half azz copying they did… just give me a rank system like daoc. and i’m happy
If they do add progression.. i might just log on since september when i realized this was getting boring fast with no competition.
My answers..
- Other : Lack of World Vs World content has made me not log on for almost 2 months. The Crappy iteration of DAOC’S frontiers is a failure.
- NO – Pve=who cares?
- Why not? = Because i have no interest in PVE, i am a pvp’er.I actually would prefer there be a FFA pvp server, with no instances. Sandbox style.
- No strong opinion on all questions… related to pve. besides? if the pve’rs like it, that’s fine. I don’t care.But what about the WvW pvp’ers and not the arena pvp’ers?
- did you invite friends to play?
no= My friends don’t like pve either.
- Why didnt you? – Because if they wanted to play pve they’d play wow
- would i invite a friend based on the event …. no
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So here i am!
If there wasn’t already enough to show how lame WvW is for pvp. This is the nail that the coffin gets before it’s buried. Arenanet’s daoc rvrlite… is a big failure in my eyes.
So many game updates, but WvW is ignored. I’m glad i’ve not wasted a minute in this game in the last 1.5 months.
Is it still pointless to WvW? Meaning, no actual progression? Or just ole alterac valley battleground instance over and over each week?
Can we see kill spam yet? Can we see players names? Is there a way to advance your character in WvW?
Or is it just a battleground amusement park still ?
Let’s not forget.. Real pvp’ers want sandbox pvp.So let’s not get confused.Archeage is forever off and darkfall UW is a crapshoot of what to expect.. We’ll see november 20th i guess?
Update game for pve events —check!
Talk to the SpvP with many Dev posts in Spvp forum -- check!
Ignore every single problem in WvW for a month while everyone quits the game —- QUEUE FIX —- CHECK!
Haven’t played in 3 weeks, i have 2 level 80s in full exotics with all the good gear, and several crafting at 400. WvW needs a progression system and until they add one, WvW will bleed players. While admittingly i’m busy IRL right now, i made time to play before.Now it’s not even in the top 5 things i want to do. Why should it be? I can’t get any better as a char, i can’t progress my character in pvp, the only thing i care about.
Gone are the days of very long queues, except on the fotm #1 server.
Remember,
NO— level 80 WvW progression = Game Fail.
Medals != A WvW pvp system
darkfall is nov 20th, get ready!
so i got “infracted” for saying at level 80 if they don’t have a progression mechanism there is no retention. i dare 1 dev to come here and tell me that progression !=retention
a list that doesn’t include a level 80 pvp system ala daoc realm levels…
is incomplete
Don’t consider this an areanet quote..But basically here it is.
Go play SpVp… and WvW is for the casual Zerger
Why did you buy the game when we told you all of this?
My answer? Because we are still craving a daoc 2.. and nobody will give it to us
Working as intended!
WvW maps are a ghost town outside of tier 1 and 2? Why? Because the game lacks progression at 80.. But at least SpvP gets an iceberg.. Which btw is a horrible blog post that basically said nothing.
Haelindiel who are you going to fight with when everyone quits? Titan alliance already quit and most of it already quit the game, it’s just boring. No reason to continue. No progression = no people. I give it another month. I’m already finding better things to do.
This just in, the game is boring.
That is all.
Please expand WvW before everyone quits… people are already leaving in droves
And i thought it was me, who thought the game was boring in WvW
Both JQ and HOD borderlands had no queue… where did everyone quit to?
ET last night at 12am PST had no queues in tier 1 matchup vs JQ and HOD
So yeah there is a drop off of players. Sorry to break it to you.
Cosmetic changes isn’t the answer. Nobody cares about that, i won’t have a legendary.Why? Because #1 not worth the effort to look cool, when i can roll you with my crafted exotic sword instead
Incase you were wondering how popular this game is, and how bad the ET overnight crews are.. it’s 2:52 am EST and no queue to enter blue borderlands
Which would be awesome Macovan. Hate tells can make or break a pvp session
One thing all the old DAoC players seem to keep forgetting is this:
GW2 isn’t DAoC.
So — and I ask this as respectfully as possible — please stop trying to make it DAoC. To be frank, the WoW people have been better at restraining their “let’s make GW2 just like WoW!” requests than you lot have.
The game is a month old. You came in, for whatever reason, expecting this game to be DAoC2. You’re now reacting as though you’re surprised it isn’t, and you keep asking for modifications to make it more like DAoC.
There are reasons DAoC maxed out at 250,000 players. Can we please give this game a year or two before you insist we start implementing some of them?
(yes, yes…“the game will be dead long before then!” You’ve already made that plain. There’s no need to repeat it in response to me.)
250K is pretty good in 2001-2002 in the mmorpg genre, don’t ya think?
And good enough to kill EQ, the only real game besides wow that killed anything. Wow Killed off daoc, and Daoc killed off EQ..That’s the only 2 “mmo” kills ever, and that’s a fact.
So for a game like daoc to kill the holy grail of pve, they had to do something right. Daoc in itself is perfect, it’s graphics are outdated and it’s been done already. With newly thought up ideas and such arenanet has the option to make a beautiful “RVR” game that will go on for years..11 years later, people still want a game like daoc. Why? Because it was friggin awesome.
Why else would Arenanet steal the entire “rvr” idea from them complete with 3 factions ? Additionally, they stole the daoc “Relics” which aka orbs in this game, in daoc it wasn’t housed inside keeps, oh wait? YES IT WAS… ON ANDRED/MORDRED special ffa pvp servers you could put relics inside keeps.. JUST LIKE YOU CAN in GW2.
So what’s wrong with us wanting more daoc when they blatantly ripped “ALMOST” everything from daoc ?
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The coding involved to make a group split some type of point system is the problem. It seems they can only code a world wide system. Even loot is individualiZEd
nice work JQ in your own borderland obsessing over the orb while HOD just backdoors you over and over… gg
lol TA is still on hod, but hey early excuses for possible losses nothing new
Even if TA did break up or didn’t break up, Did you think that every alliance from the start of the game until arenanet closes the servers would stick? Just like daoc gank guilds, people get tired/drama/bored… and they split up and the population gets divided., There will be a new super power some day, it might be JQ it might be SBI it might be ET.. It might even be crystal desert 9 months from now, the same people who play now, may not play then. If things stay the same, the same people playing now may not be playing 1 month from now, and if they are… Masochists much?
Instant queues on HOD because the match is out of hand,Who said this game doesn’t need a real actual PVP system ala daoc w/ranks and incentives?
Please keep in mind, i said server. You don’t have to play on this server. Just that it is available and comes with a pop up warning upon joining telling you what type of server it is.I bet it would be a medium high pop server to start. I do understand long haul keeping up the players is hard. But, having this option would be epic for the niche that wants it.
Enough of the carebear WvW crap. Spvp Arathi basin games..
And more i kill you, i take your stuff?
Are WvW imbalanced the reason for the SWTOR-like fall of GW2 numbers on Xfire?
in WvW
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What do you expect? At 80 when the week is determined in wvw whether win or lose, there’s really no reason to pvp….
I see many dev posts in the spvp forum, assuring them they aren’t being forgotten. However, i have to say.I feel WvW is forgotten . There is no real pvp system in place, there is no real reason to care if you win or lose. etc.. etc.. Many constructive posts indicating how the wvw system needs a daoc like rank system etc.
Spvp are frustrated? What is there to say about the WvW?
I just read a dev posting in the SPVP forum that if you want “progression” or not be on even grounds, you should play WvW instead of spvp.. they want spvp to be completely even.
So here’s hoping that arenanet institutes a gw2 “WVW” system that not only is similar to the OP’s but even makes it a bigger gap between players so that smart good players of 5-10 people can beat 20-30 people.
Maybe i am the only one sick of zerging :/ or getting “zerrged” heh
The point is, guilds that are not zergers are frustrated, unless they run all aoe classes and fight on a narrow high bridge, they can’t compete vs the zerg. Back in daoc a 8 people could beat 25 people just because they were better, and of course “Mes” and aoe stun.
Has to be ET, right or SBI? We all know HOD only wins because of the oceanic. So any other servers that are comparable with the ET juggernaut NA primetime guilds?
Like any traitor, you kill them…
Oh wait, you’re not allowed to because it’d break lore….
WvW= kitten child?
I really miss a real pvp game with a population. I’ll say it again and again, the new age mmorpgs cater to the masses of people who just play to play, as casual. I am a casual gamer, i have a job and a family. I am a hardcore pvp’er, i want you to kill me and steal my stuff, i want to kill you and steal your stuff and then get a hate tell from you, saying how much i live in my moms basement etc.. I WANT that. The problem?
The majority of mass produced mmo’s eg.. wow and GW2 etc.. do not allow that, why? because people would get upset and quit. It’s a small niche i belong to, and sadly i doubt we’ll ever find it again unless we start to support indy developers who crappy graphic engines etc.. like Dominus and Darkfall 2 UW
What do you get now Chessrook?
Wowified.. is dumbing the game down so much that consumers who have only used facebook can play their game with ease
I am very annoyed of how wowified this game has become, and setup. No death spam in wvw, no names in wvw, no advancements for players in wvw…
Congrats on wowifying pvp . That was the intent right? i mean you did say WvW=Casual Spvp=hardcore. Did you not?
Almost on my 2nd 80 now, and i must say. I’m asking myself why? And my first 80 is in full exotics. So again why?
When will WvW not be so carebear? If the answer is never, please tell us so we can get ready for darkfall UW
Do i get any bonus points?
I called the pvp comment, and of course the casual zergers are out in force!
The mmo world craves open world pvp so bad, and nobody wants to give it out. Not even arenanet, and when they try. Their massive 4 map alterac valleys fail because of how carebeared up they did it.
YAy or Nay ?
If they had not such a craptastic UI in the initial game, it might of been interesting.Here’s to hoping the UI is much better in this new game.
FFA pvp will always be what i love. Oh how i miss the original Andred with all the top mmorpg guilds in history.
Lesigh memories
Because areenanet wants casuals to play wvw