Guild Wars 2

Its not the dress dear, its the rolls…

On the up side, he looks REALLY happy about it.

Nuka Cola.8520:

That’s why i don’t know a single sane person who enjoyed the campaign. I skipped every single cutsceen because dialogue made my ears bleed, voice acting made my brain explode and cutsceens themselves were eye exploding. ‘kiddy’ is the category i’d class gw2’s story. A young kid may enjoy it or an old person who’s tired of everything and actually want the stupid goofiness but not your average gamer who bought this game to play it daily.

Well, actually there is one exception to the campaign being horrible, and that would be the Sylvari White Stag arc. Not to spoil too much more about it, but it provides an interesting variance within the usual ranks of the Nightmare Court and is where Caithe shows a little bit more of her darker qualities, to the protests of the player. That one, and the Asuran storyline where one lover gets trapped in a golem and then other lover chooses to also be trapped inside a golem to be with her forever. Aside from those two exceptions (and tiny moments here and there), I agree with you.

Tai Kratos, I wish you didn’t stop. There are many players who succumb to eye-rolls and skipping scenes, if not abandoning the story altogether (like me), but I’ve never seen such an incredibly well written post(s) explaining why the story is so unappealing. I see truth in every comment you made regarding silliness and maturity, and I share your disappointment at how it all comes out in the game. Maybe my hopes were raised by the fact they had novels, giving the indication that the writing was going to be good, but I did not get that impression from the actual game content. The writing is eh. Like you, I also find it incredibly undermining when it comes to dealing with factions or lesser races like Skritt. No explanations are given, its just “Go kill X of [creature type]” without any dialog. Sure they’re saving us from having to read walls of text, but I don’t think their alternative is any better.

Again, very well-written, and thank you.

No longer shall the Cursed Shore suffer the weight of the 10-commander zergs! No longer shall skills be lagged. No longer shall fire elementals spawn!

Destroy the cauldrons! RALLY! SLAY ANDARZBAD! The Tarnished Coast has freed itself from the Tyranny of the Farm! There is hope for you! Just fight!

Actually, I think the simple solution would be that dynamic events scale to success and failure rates as well as surrounding players.

The more often the event is failed, the easier and easier the mobs should become till the point there are no champions.

The more often the success of the event happens, the harder it will be next time, causing incentive to spawn more difficult mobs and drawing in more possible rewards.

There will be a balancing point where players can’t push anymore and it will even out at a win/loss rate to stop spawning harder mobs and making it easier on the next try.

Hard core players could try to push the success rate higher and claim the accomplishment of hard challenges by winning “x” amount of successes on an event in a row, reaching a crazy high number of champions per an event.

Empty servers/zones with people not doing events could become soloable after a period of time that an event had no successes to it. This would allow more players to see more parts of the game…with less rewards of course because the event scaled down.

More can be done to make it different, and the more often you win an event it will not count towards DR because the event keeps changing and it isn’t a repetitive farm.

They could go so far as if you get multiple wins in a row, it will spawn a new event…but that’s for other talks to help improve the game.

The reason why you see this happening is pretty simple: Arenanet nerfs to the ground every farming area in the game that is seen as profitable so the farmers are rushing to get as many rewards as possible before the nerfhammer hits. It’s not the farmers fault really, but rather the extreme nerf on the farming areas from anet that led to this behaviour. Before you had cof p1 to run, areas to farm and so on. Now, it’s all about the places where champs spawn the most to get as many chests as possible. When this gets nerfed, the zerg will move to the next most profitable thing and repeat the process.

Sentinel.5731:

Also as a side note, i would THROW MY MONEY AT ANET if they could give us purchasable skins for our minions, especially the flesh golem. All my money, they could have it.

this is major area I see ANET wasting huge opportunity in the gem store.

skins for armor weapons and pets could be raking in the gems.

I would be interested in playing a minion spec if my golem at least looked cool while he watches me kill things.

Anakita Snakecharm.4360:

AnthonyOrdon.3926:

Some 40 or so permanent events were added around the game in our very first content update. They were met with little interest or fanfare. Granted, Halloween may have stolen the show. But those events are still in the game today. I’ve seen very little reaction to them, however, positive or negative.

While the reason he gives is probably true, I also think part of the issue there may have been that so early in the game’s lifespan (the Halloween release was only a couple of months in,) most people hadn’t done all the original events enough times to recognize when something was new.

I suspect that a dynamic event release of that magnitude now would be more noticed.

A ton of DE’s go unnoticed, there were so many patches where in the notes there would be a single line saying "we added “x” amount of DE’s to the game", no mention of where they are, what zone no additional info of any kind. So of course in the eyes of Anet its going to show lack of interest, no one knows where or when to go somewhere.

Dynamic events are hardly dynamic. Before launch we were told these would impact the world and bosses wouldn’t just respawn 10 minutes later as if nothing happened.

As it is, bosses do respawn in 10 minutes(sometimes more, or less) and the only way events impact the world is by a junk-selling merchant appearing or a dungeon entrance getting closed…

Perhaps people would bother with events if the rewards weren’t so meager (3s and <400 karma for a max-level event?) and if the impacts would be greater.

“Oh, you didn’t bother defending Nebo Terrace and the Ascalon Settlement? Well, Lion’s Arch is now under siege. All LA waypoints, merchants, banks, etc are disabled until the siege is lifted. The only way to leave or enter the city is by Asura gate. Centaurs are slaughtering all afk players in the city and bandits steal their armor and weapons.”

^ Nothing like that would ever happen. Chasing lost cows and chickens is dynamic enough for Anet.

AnthonyOrdon.3926:

Some 40 or so permanent events were added around the game in our very first content update. They were met with little interest or fanfare. Granted, Halloween may have stolen the show. But those events are still in the game today. I’ve seen very little reaction to them, however, positive or negative.

While the reason he gives is probably true, I also think part of the issue there may have been that so early in the game’s lifespan (the Halloween release was only a couple of months in,) most people hadn’t done all the original events enough times to recognize when something was new.

I suspect that a dynamic event release of that magnitude now would be more noticed.

Emmet.2943:

I think this is more an example of Anet trying to find what players want but their dynamic event system isn’t exactly impacting on the player base. Everything we do is reset within the hour of doing it so nothing we do in a dynamic event feels like it has an impact on the world. Thus it wouldn’t matter how many dynamic events they added players wouldn’t notice because sooner or later that event is gonna repeat and all the work they did will be gone so the next group of players can do the event. Players don’t think about the impact they are making because their is none thus they don’t think about the dynamic event they are doing because it’s just another dynamic event to them.

I think it’s more like players in general would lean towards doing what is easiest while at the same time yields the most profit. Dynamic events in Orr used to be farmed a lot for karma and tier 6 mats. Then people realized karma wasn’t all that useful and didn’t farm them as much. It was probably also because ANet introduced diminishing returns.

They don’t care about whether they’re making an impact. The achievement system also makes it so that ANet needs to reset dynamic events to make them more available for people. Most DEs follow this system although the ones in Orr actually don’t. Waypoints that are contested will stay contested until certain DEs are completed. You could say that this should encourage players to actually go out and do them but you don’t see very many people around for them. This is especially evident in Straits of Devestation, where more than half of the waypoints are contested. These DEs have a long lasting impact on the game world or at least the zone but no one really cares.

Not exactly bad just shows that their events aren’t actually fully dynamic more quests on loop. If they want to make it so people have interest in dynamic events they need to allow them to go a little crazy sometimes. Allow entire zones to be taken and kept by enemies forcing players to get involved if they want their zones back to normal. Allow enemies and allies to fortify these bases they take and over time the longer they keep them the harder they are to retake or to be captured. You could then make it so the more fortified a base is the stronger the army is that attacks it. So players actually want to fortify and protect these bases so that more champions spawn across the map giving them more loot. If they lose a zone to they will still want to take it because chaining all the dynamic events together will net them some nice gold/karma and some champion spawns.

The idea with the forts getting stronger is a good one. The problem is that if players find it too challenging then they’ll move to areas that are easier. No, the real problem is actually people that just want to farm. They will never do something just because it is challenging or that it is fun. On the contrary, they would avoid this content if they deem it inefficient. For them, the only things to consider are risk and time vs reward. Even if the reward is great, if the risk is too high they won’t bite.

The living story is how Anet is impacting their world but their isn’t a lot of tools in game for the players to do the same while Anet is off working on updates. So working on dynamic events this way or in some form like this would allow more impact on the world by the players. It would definitely take a good amount of time to pull off but It wouldn’t be impossible and they could start out slow by adding to the current meta’s/dynamic events involving the major enemy factions of the game(son’s of svanir, centaurs, nightmare court, etc)seeing if players enjoy the impact and extra rewards for sticking around and fortifying or taking back an outpost. Adding choice on how players can go about a dynamic event not in how they perform it but how the outcome turns out(like buring down/seiging a base destroying all the buildings/walls/supplies making it worthless so humans don’t capture it, or going in and killing all centaurs causing a champion or two to spawn giving a better reward and a new base to help fortify)

I think ANet is trying to figure out how to give players the ability to make meaningful impacts on the world. They already experimented on this with Cutthroat Politics, where players got to decide the direction the Living Story would take. I think changing the existing regions too much could have unforeseen consequences. Look at how most of Orr, with the exception of Cursed Shore, is abandoned. Look at how Southsun Cove is abandoned. Anything experimental would require a new zone where they can minimize the impact of any problems that may occur.

I think this is more an example of Anet trying to find what players want but their dynamic event system isn’t exactly impacting on the player base. Everything we do is reset within the hour of doing it so nothing we do in a dynamic event feels like it has an impact on the world. Thus it wouldn’t matter how many dynamic events they added players wouldn’t notice because sooner or later that event is gonna repeat and all the work they did will be gone so the next group of players can do the event. Players don’t think about the impact they are making because their is none thus they don’t think about the dynamic event they are doing because it’s just another dynamic event to them.

Not exactly bad just shows that their events aren’t actually fully dynamic more quests on loop. If they want to make it so people have interest in dynamic events they need to allow them to go a little crazy sometimes. Allow entire zones to be taken and kept by enemies forcing players to get involved if they want their zones back to normal. Allow enemies and allies to fortify these bases they take and over time the longer they keep them the harder they are to retake or to be captured. You could then make it so the more fortified a base is the stronger the army is that attacks it. So players actually want to fortify and protect these bases so that more champions spawn across the map giving them more loot. If they lose a zone to they will still want to take it because chaining all the dynamic events together will net them some nice gold/karma and some champion spawns.

The living story is how Anet is impacting their world but their isn’t a lot of tools in game for the players to do the same while Anet is off working on updates. So working on dynamic events this way or in some form like this would allow more impact on the world by the players. It would definitely take a good amount of time to pull off but It wouldn’t be impossible and they could start out slow by adding to the current meta’s/dynamic events involving the major enemy factions of the game(son’s of svanir, centaurs, nightmare court, etc)seeing if players enjoy the impact and extra rewards for sticking around and fortifying or taking back an outpost. Adding choice on how players can go about a dynamic event not in how they perform it but how the outcome turns out(like buring down/seiging a base destroying all the buildings/walls/supplies making it worthless so humans don’t capture it, or going in and killing all centaurs causing a champion or two to spawn giving a better reward and a new base to help fortify)

Well, it’s not really the customers fault if they don’t implement functions to promote what they want their game to play. For example, WvW, there can be SO many additional changes to the commander tag function which could greatly improve the tactical variety. For example, different tag colours, commanders allowed to mark certain spots, so many excellent suggestions in the suggestion box. What do we get instead? buggy living stories.

The game at the moment is far from the most grindy but it also isn’t considered NOT grindy. Just think about the current living story, why is there tickets which are soulbound, waypoints which cost money, and require us to either farm for money to buy the sprocks to convert to tickets or grind for them with the train. If anet truly didn’t want a grindy game, they could have made any of these changes, remove tickets, make it cost 1s per entry instead of farming tickets, put a cooldown on how fast you can reenter a arena. So many other options than making us farm tickets to do an arena.

As for the events, I don’t believe a lack of positive negative feedback is bad. When you lack in feedback, it means that people didn’t hate it. That is already excellent feedback already, because it means you did something right, people enjoyed the implementation and are enjoying the game. So it’s really the amount of negative feedback you should be looking at and not the positive feedback since we all know, people will complain about bad things but not always commend good things i.e. silence is good.

I think anet is taking the cheap way out by using living story to force/attract players to play their content instead of focusing on perfecting their core elements of the game.

First of all, yes other stats are viable. There are plenty of group comps that clear dungeons just fine besides full zerk.

However, people don’t have to run with you if they don’t want to. If they want full zerk, that’s their business. Fairness and equality doesn’t extend to forcing people to put up with you. You are entitled to use the build you want, but you aren’t entitled to a spot in my dungeon group.

Chests?
I haven’t seen any chests. What I have seen is that they drop their sack. One would expect two sprockets inside, but I’ve gotten up to four! Tyria can be a place of wonder.

Onshidesigns.1069:

Nudity in art is not the same nudity in porn.

It is really the intention of the creator. Given the stuff in Guild Wars 2 thus far, it doesn’t appear to be just art.

Meriem.3504:

Kiriwar.7382:

Meriem.3504:

Kiriwar.7382:

Arimahn.3568:

Their posterior seems awfully elaborate too.

Demanding pics for those stuck at work!

There is a pic, check my OP.

That was only the chest, I want to see their butts.

How is this not sexualized? I’d say if someone doesn’t pick up the obvious here, they’re the one’s with a weird mind.

Meriem.3504:

Kiriwar.7382:

Meriem.3504:

Kiriwar.7382:

Arimahn.3568:

Their posterior seems awfully elaborate too.

Demanding pics for those stuck at work!

There is a pic, check my OP.

That was only the chest, I want to see their butts.

gives junk in the trunk new meaning.

Wish they would have spent as much time on the Sovereign skins as they did putting nips on a robot. -.-

I’d rather say Anet implements better rewards not for grinding, but for doing a variety of different content and rewarding exploration. I’m not talking about dailies. I’m talking about the core-content of the game: dynamic open world events / open world exploration

So how to do this without the grind? Rewarding players for exploration.

• find and finish 20 unique events in a zone to get rewarded with a new lootbag (lots of rare mats and chance for lodestones + loot). It’s not grinding, since a lot of events are not obviously on a linear path. Suddenly solo-players can be equally effective than big rolling zergs.
• reset this after each 20 events
• rarely spawn hidden artifacts for an incentive to not use waypoints. Each artifact could be sold for 50s OR collect a whole set and turn it into a new skin (e.g. the new champion loot skins). Don’t forget that artifacts also are items rich of lore.

about the rewards: remember: 5min of world boss = 1 guaranteed yellow (or orange). Make it really worth it finding 20 unique events which can last longer than some might think.

I don’t really know where to start… No to pretty much everything. Anet does not need to rebalance its whole looting process over one piece of temporary content. Enjoy the loots in the pavilion while they last, it’s boring as sin, but everything has a price.

Instead of a weekly daily as you suggested we could instead have a monthly daily, it’s like 30 dailies stitched together, or if that’s not to your liking how about a weekly monthly, it’s the same as your weekly daily, but 4 times as fun. Don’t worry, you can have 4 times as much time to complete it.

Lots of people love the new area. It’s not for everyone, but it is essentially a champ train, something that lots of players were doing out in the open world, except this one is designed with the specific purpose of being farmed. Plus the area balances levels upwards, so while a new player can’t champ train in ORR with their lvl 80 pals, they can do it here. It also, at least temporarily addresses the changes to dungeon paths which have made CoF less profitable. WvW will be fine, this content will disappear and people will flood back. Instead of redesigning the whole world around this patch they could spend some time on the culling and performance issues in WvW.

Edit: Sorry if I came across snarky, it’s not what I intended, but none of the things you mentioned really related to the topic of this thread. Nothing presented here actually changes the games grind centric approach to content. If you don’t like dailies and monthlies, weeklies will not help, and 10x more loot doesn’t change how that loot is acquired.

Over the last few days on the forums I have read many thread of people asking to keep the arena bosses the same or to nerf them.

What I have noticed in these threads is people don’t relize the difference between “nerfing” something or fixing it.

The gauntlet has A LOT of problems, but it brings a new difficulty level to GW2 that very few mmos have on the market.

Now some of the fixes dubbed by the forums as “nerfs” that really should be patched in include:

-A fix for the red circles on the floor
This fix should be pretty easy to implment by making the ground solid or by making it more pronounced.

-Colorblind mode
This has been asked for many times on the forums and still has not been added. Even for people like me who have pretty good vision, have trouble seeing the difference between some of the area of effect spells on the ground. This addition to the game should have a way to change the colors of the circles on the ground to a different color that the person viewing can see more easily, preferably on a case by case basis such as friendly ground aoe, enemy ground aoe, etc each with their own color selector.

-Double Bosses
After a few days of this even being live, I would expect a fix for the double bosses and 2 player 2 bosses scenarios, which as of today can and do occur quite frequently.

-Quake is being worked on, but was a major issue with the effect carrying over to other player’s fight.

*-Rifts being miss-able *
Not sure if a dev has commented on this, but why do certain forms of attack seem not to affect the rifts during the final boss fight. Some ranged weapons work, some don’t, some melee misses, some hits and some hit but don’t do damage. Either fix the rift or tell us why you want the rift to have so many variables, which don’t make sense compared to any other boss in the game.

-Add an option to tone down particle effects with out affecting graphics quality.
Across all the mmos I’ve played this is a pretty common feature to see, since I would like to see when an enemy is going to cast something and all the flash in this game makes that hard to do. Even the new “Improved Effects Level of Detail System” still isn’t very good.

-Pve Culling
When is this going to be fixed? In an mmo I’d expect to see someone standing 10 feet away from me. Why is this the only mmo that can’t handle that, just add an option like in WvW if you guys are worried about performance, I’m sure I can be the judge if my computer can handle something or not.

-Camera control + angles
This is not the first time this has been brought up and properly not the last. But why does the camera in the game just feel so sluggish and clunky compared to any other game I’ve played. It just doesn’t feel or act the way I expect it to. The way the camera acts also impacts nearly ever aspect of the game. From bad camera angles inside, puzzles and the new arena, something needs to be done with this camera. I would love more then 2 sliders to improve my camera experience please!

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-Camera Angle in the arena
For one fight in particular, the final boss, the camera is horrible when trying to lure a shadow to the white swirl, why is the glass curved so close to the edge? Either change the spawn of the white swirl or do something with the dome, because the camera is horrible that close to the wall.

-Targeting
Why can I still not make targets, while not in a party? Why does tab targeting target a white creature and not the close red npc attacking me? Why is my target deselected randomly in combat? I don’t understand why the targeting works this way and how something this basic in any mmo wasn’t fixed in alpha.

Boss specific stuff:
*Halmi Hammerfell: *add a more prominent visual cue to his wind-up. Something like what Ettins have.

(From this thread- https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/livingworld/jubilee/Please-nerf-Queen-s-Gauntlet/first)

More enemies and bosses need more cues, but this is one of the worst offenders in this case.

*The crew of the pirate ship Ravenous: *Why does one aoe in this fight have red circles, like usual, but the other doesn’t and blends into the grated floor. Consistency is nice considering both the mass aoe effects in this fight are pretty much the same.

I am not asking for anything to be handed to me, I just want a working experience.

Nothing here will make a hard fight easier and in the long run these fixes will make GW2 a better game.

TL;DR -
The “nerfs” most people are asking for aren’t nerfs, but fixes to very real problems in the game, don’t complain on the forums not to fix stuff that is clearly broken and needs to be fixed, these fixes will not do anything but make the game better to play, nothing more. The arena fights will still be hard, no numbers have been changed, no mechanics have been changed, just basic features and visual stimuli.

Lets stop our quarrel. After reflecting and rereading my first posts I admit that they sounded unreasonable even if I got a point (which is why I tried to explain it in more detail in my previous post).

I missunderstood you, provided to little explanaition and then you missunderstood me (reading your above post has made me realize that). I’m also sorry for the “you sound like an angry little kid” statement, that wasn ’t helpfull at all.

The point is, I’m here because I support in it getting a fix.

But that doesn’t change the fact that other movement skills roots you as well sometimes even if it didn’t happen for you and some aren’t as frequent / recreateable. I have an Asuran engineer and didn’t notice the rooting on the Rocket Boots at first as well.

That said fixing a skill that fails this often should be their top priority
(concerning simliar movement imparing bugs).