Guild Wars 2

I like the rewards idea and XTD’s proposal sounds good with WvW specific rewards for WvW play.

On the topic of unbalanced matchups:

One of the main complaints I hear is about how PvE population can make a server show as “Full” when they can hardly queue maps yet other servers who have a larger WvW population show less population. I think if this were focused on then the trickle down affect will at least make some headway into WvW population imbalance.

Has Anet (or anyone else) thought of something to not have players automatically count against a worlds WvW population? Since Megaservers started, it doesn’t matter what world you are on for PvE, you just get on a map and then join your party on theirs if you end up on different overflows. But it most certainly affects WvW.

I know it will have holes but something like this:
Players do not pick a world for PvE, they just log in and start playing. For WvW each account can choose what World they fight for. Same transfer rules, pay gems and you can change your world affiliation. If you do not log into WvW for X consecutive weeks then you world affiliation is put on hold and you do not count against the population of said server and after another (or a few more) consecutive weeks you are then stripped of world affiliation and would have to pay a fee (smaller than transfer fee) to affiliate with that server again or pay the transfer fee and go to another world. Or remain PvE only.

Added: Perhaps it is also time to maybe lessen the number of NA WvW servers? (since I know nothing about how EU server work I only speak to the NA situation)

^

I agree. too many people just want to lash out instead of at least giving it a go.

Also, too all of those who were posting about his WvW experience I have this to say:

His title is FORUM Specialist – WvW and NOT WvW Specialist – Forum. And next time Anet opens up applying for something like this, then those who have been complaining had better put their name in the hat.

Reading comprehension ftw.

I hear they are have a new underwater pet, a shear (part shark, part bear) and it will be a pet with the new territory expansion when it comes. And they can take control of Necro minions and do veils and portals.

This is still happening, though not as bad as last week.

1. What kind of issue are you specifically having that could be related to lag?
Skill lag, rubber-banding
2. What server are you on?
Sorrow’s Furnace
3. Has there ever been a time when you or a friend are experiencing lag, while others in your party are not?
Anyone on our side or quarter of the map get the skill lag.
4. Do you experience the lag at very specific times?
The rubberbanding I have only experienced once, the skill lag is an indicator that an enemy group (10+) is nearby. Any time we get the skill lag we start looking for the enemy and then find them. It does NOT happen when two of our good sized groups meet up, only when an enemy group is in the vicinity (the quarter of the map we are on).

This thread also discusses rangers…. https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/wuv/wuv/Ranger-Pets-Overpowered/first

#HammerTrain2013

Straegen.2938:

Cantur Soulfyre.5409:

All I know is the bandwagon players who jump just for a new season are really not that good anyways, they need numbers to win which is why they are jumping. The people that jump servers for seasons have zero integrity or else they would stay on their home world and do their own work to make it a good server. Honestly, I would not want those types of folks on my server, as soon as the season ends they will leave and try to take more people with them than they came with.

There is absolutely no reason to be “loyal” to a server. None… zip. The us/them team concept in GW2 is a false dichotomy. If a player isn’t having fun on their server or would have more fun somewhere else, they should move. Staying put and having less fun is just silly. This is a GAME and we play this GAME to have FUN.

Save words like integrity for the important things in life such as family and friends. Oh and before we do some false equivalency between out of game friend loyalty and in-game friend loyalty, we are ALL GW2 players and we can find friends on any server as well as remain friends with players on the servers we leave. If anything a person opens themselves up to making more friends and having a more enjoyable game experience by migrating frequently.

First, I am not talking about those that actually jump servers because they do not get along with others, or whatever, I am strictly those that jump to get a better reward, etc.

And, you can put your spin on it, but personal integrity does mean something even if it doesn’t mean anything to you. And just because you call it “false equivalency” does not make it false. Stop putting your own personal thoughts down as facts.

You can excuse seasonal world jumpers all you want, and I am sure it makes them feel better about themselves.

ardasica.4531:

Offair.2563:

ghost.3208:

Slyfer.6478:

Inexperienced players should really stop with the “NERF THIS GUY’S PROFESSION BECAUSE I SUCK AT COUNTERING A ZERKER”. Don’t make a balance requesting thread unless you have a minimum of 8k AP or something.

I have 10k achievement points and I still can’t get an actual useful strategy for pets, specially that bear, only one who tried to do something is that “Offair” dude but I believe he’s trolling since most of his replies have been really negative on the thread.

Do we unlock some sort of advantage by having those points? Why is that a requirement?

Well at least the devs have now seen the post and hopefully in the future balance patch this pet madness will end.

Im not negative, neither im trolling, However, i think people whining about pets being overpowered are the ones that trolling , since its a broken AI. And like Allie said, go to rangers cdi and say they are overpowered, but dont be surprised if the whole ranger community laughs right in your face

Sunshine… did you actually read any of this or just individual responses? The whole thread was in jest. As a ranger, I can assure you it was in jest.

However #HammerTrain2013 was not in jest. That was srs bizness

I sent this person a PM a long time ago that this wasn’t to be taken seriously, I actually felt bad at how serious they were taking it. But they have kept posting serious so……must be serious.

And now that S2 is upon us, I hear BP and TC are recruiting bear pets from other servers to roam EB and take out zergs…..skeery stuff in the higher Tiers.

King Amadaeus.8619:

Chewablesleeptablet.3185:

OP. it is your skill issue. there i said it.

I have no skill issue, skill work fine.

I think they mean something other than the 1 button.

Rumor has it HoD is getting stacked by transfers so they can win Silver from the bottom.

All I know is the bandwagon players who jump just for a new season are really not that good anyways, they need numbers to win which is why they are jumping. The people that jump servers for seasons have zero integrity or else they would stay on their home world and do their own work to make it a good server. Honestly, I would not want those types of folks on my server, as soon as the season ends they will leave and try to take more people with them than they came with.

Please stop using logic in this thread. If folks cant figure out you dodge left or right and strafe the hammer trains from the side then, well……Darwinism?

Jocksy.3415:

Cantur Soulfyre.5409:

Offair.2563:

ghost.3208:

Vylor.3276:

If you are dying 1v1 to them. I don’t know what to tell you.

Why? Can’t you share some tactics to help us against the ranger pets? Because I swear I’m sick of that krytan hound that keeps fearing me, way more annoying than a necro.

Everyone keeps underestimating the rangers, just you wait and see.

I have a very nice tactic to share with all those people that cant deal with pet, i posted it before here but well, im not to lazy to do it again, ok here it comes:

I G N O R E P E T

oh and btw, krytan hound does not fear but immobilize duh

I have looked but I can not find the IGNORE PET skill. Is this class or race based? Or an Elite skill???

Risen’s skills… they’re pretty good at it, most of the time…

So we have to steal a Risen’s skill? But that is only available in GW1!!! Wait, does that mean Anet wants us to buy GW1 to get the skill just to counter OP Bearbow ranger???

Offair.2563:

ghost.3208:

Vylor.3276:

If you are dying 1v1 to them. I don’t know what to tell you.

Why? Can’t you share some tactics to help us against the ranger pets? Because I swear I’m sick of that krytan hound that keeps fearing me, way more annoying than a necro.

Everyone keeps underestimating the rangers, just you wait and see.

I have a very nice tactic to share with all those people that cant deal with pet, i posted it before here but well, im not to lazy to do it again, ok here it comes:

I G N O R E P E T

oh and btw, krytan hound does not fear but immobilize duh

I have looked but I can not find the IGNORE PET skill. Is this class or race based? Or an Elite skill???

Actually, 11/10 would but still….

#HammerTrain2013 #OPBearbow2014

Have you not heard of the OP bearbow ranger build?? Hammer trains will not be viable much longer!! #HammerTrains2013

Well, we all know this is trash now, OP bearbow ranger is going to be taking the WvW scene by storm. #HammerTrain2013

McWolfy.5924:

Gaining loot near to edges teleport you. In hills, at the bridge front of the lord room its often fatal. Sometimes you gain loot, something port you from the middle to the very edge of the bridge, you press dodge, leap or just move and you fall in your death.

This is actually a game feature. Please refrain from calling game features bugs or hacks.

Prysin.8542:

Stand The Wall.6987:

Should players be able to dps a gate, or should siege be the only way to bring it down?

I think the only way to DPS a gate to death, would be through Siege Damage added by a mastery.

Naw, we PvD all the time when we are bored and don’t want to waste siege. An offensive attack should be able to do something against a gate (not wall) but only a small amount.

Sardonia.8196:

Ok here is my story,

I run as a pretty beefed up warrior. They supposed to be OP I heard. Was traveling through a nice meadow in the mists the other day and saw a ranger with his pet bear. I thought, ok I have OP warrior, lets do this. I start moving towards the ranger and he turns and suddenly that bear starts moving towards me. I looked into it’s eyes and it was like looking into a demon.

However, I was told not to worry about the pets from ranger. They no problem so I kept moving towards the ranger thinking I can take him down. I keep trudging forward all the while that bear is just chewing me to pieces, as well as, arrows flying in my face. They hurt. But I am beefy warrior so I move on. I almost get to ranger, bear eating me, and see the ranger squat down quickly. I was thinking he was just tired or something.

All of a sudden the ground became all muddy and I could not move fast. Bear moving like the wind though chewing on me. Now how does a ranger make the ground all muddy in a few seconds? There was not a cloud in the sky. However, I managed to get a heal off while bear chewing my legs off. I get through the mud and keep going towards the hunter like people have said, “just ignore the bear” I see the hunter squat again. I am like ok he made ground muddy again. So I think I charge through it. Suddenly spears come up out of the ground and stab me. These ranger must be masters at making traps in a second. How did he dig hole so fast and put pop up spears in?
At that point in time, I had to do something about the bear. My armor was just in rags and man was I hurting. So I fought a fierce fight that demon of a bear, as arrows still flying in my face. The bear is about to die and suddenly he vanishes. I am like, finally I can take out that hunter. So I move in for the kill, life low after fiercly fighting bear.
Suddenly out of no where a black jaguar pounces on me and eats me alive. I down and dead. Nothing I could do. Now how does cat hide in a grassy meadow? No where to hide. Perhaps my eyes were all shot up from arrows in face and fighting bear. I do not know. After that I just logged off and said ranger to OP.

True story

Welcome Sardonia!! Thank you for sharing your story, it helps others who are going through the same feelings know they are not alone!!

Anyone else want to share with the group? We can get through this together!

^^ This, supply trap them to death. Unless they are OP bearbow zerg, then RUN!!

#HammerTrain2013

style.6173:

Ikaros.7812:

Bazzoong.7145:

Offair.2563:

I have seen the future too, massive bearbow blobs.

No, that is the present, you need to ajust your scrying device, kid.

I thought the present was mantra mesmer zergs with venom share thieves here and there.

Maybe, just not in gw2.

OP bearbow is the new zerg tactic, ranger too OP will be nerfed soon! #HammerTrain2013

Reverence.6915:

Burl.9567:

Reverence.6915:

RyuDragnier.9476:

Traejan.1729:

SoR imploded when Blindo and the rest of [TW] Twerk Warriors left for SoS

Ran with them earlier, speaking of that. My god they’re good…really good. Kept wiping entire giant zergs of FA in Eternal like they were nothing. They know their stuff.

EB zergs are the worst zergs… It’s really nothing to brag about. Take 20 guildies, go to EB, wipe every group not hiding behind ACs. Standard practise for most fight oriented guilds I would think.

T2 EB is much different than T1 EB. BG and JQ guild groups avoided it for the most part. FA and Mag guild groups seem to actually gravitate towards it.

Reason is that EBG offers no decent terrain upon which to fight. Anywhere you go, it’s close to a tower, keep or castle for your opponents to run into to hide behind 5 ACs. Why would fight oriented guilds go to such a map is beyond me. Borderlands maps provide much more even terrain to fight on, for both large and small groups.

Well, a good fight group would know how to send some people behind their enemies to CC/static field them when they try to run away. EB has plenty of good fighting terrain, you just have to be smart and use things to your advantage.

Expiatus.4210:

BEAR ATTACK! FEAR IT!

Is this new concept art?? They want to BUFF the bear with guns and its own pet shark???

King Amadaeus.8619:

Ikaros.7812:

worst is when bear invite you to party and call you names, i try report but doesn’t work on pet?? please fix this

Please say its joke?! I do not want Bear whisper, I am already thinking of going back to Runescape, too much terror, so much dispair with ranger pet…

We could try Pokeman…

Offair.2563:

Cantur Soulfyre.5409:

Offair.2563:

ghost.3208:

Offair.2563:

Q: how to deal with rangers pets.

A: keep running around ignore the pet and stress out on ranger throwing everything to his/her face, ranger dead, pet dead, 2 birds ( or bears ) 1 stone story.

If you fail to do that, its not the pet being OP but the player being to stupid to anticipate on very telegraphed skills such as wolfs howl or murrelows poison

Go check on Rangers subforum CDI and read how many people say pet’s AI is broken which is true yet some people come here and complain about it. Maybe the ranger will own u in 1v1 or in small scale fights but any class can do the same.

This is clearly a Learn2Play, heck Learn2Anticipate and not an Overpowered issue

Alright but, can you like make a video of this tactic? Because ever since yesterday everyone has been saying the same advice and so far I haven’t seen much progress.

Teach me how can you beat those bears? I even went underwater to escape from the ranger and his bears but they can go underwater too. I really don’t understand how constantly moving helps if you get CC’ed to the max.

Bears dont CC, all their attacks are melee based so if u move around the pet will do its animation but your out of range already, just keep running around and aim for the ranger, not the pet.

A few pets can do cc from range but most are used by the F2 function but it often doesnt work or go on CD without doing anything.

I HAVE TRIED THIS AND IT DOESNT WORK!!! I run around all day and since I can’t get into range to attack the ranger the OP bear ends up killing me!! Please, like someone asked, upload video of your tactics against the OP bearbow!! I can hardly get out of my spawn before I get OP beared to death!

What class/build do you run that keeps on getting ganked by a pet, full zerger?
Would like to ask you to upload a video how u deal with the pets, I can uploads one myself but its nothing but people ignoring my pet and running into me with stability/regen/condi removals/dodge/stun/cc and perhaps some stealth here and there

Problem is not the pet, but the people that cant be bothered ignoring it

Guess those whining about it have read up to much smacktalk on forums how aful rangers are and when they see one they think “oh ranger easypeasy 100% guaranteed kill” but then the ranger kills em and they come to this forum QQ pets OP QQ

Pet slows me down so OP bearbow can use range attacks, I run norn warrior with full green colored armor (so OP ranger hard to see me) and travlers runes so I can try be fast and hit ranger. None of it works, sure I can beat ranger sometimes when in zerg.

I think you make fun of us, wont help us know how to counter OP bearbow so you probably don’t want to help because you run new OP build. Show us video of how to counter or you just mean person laughing at us!

Listen, I am not sure if I will get infracted for this or not, but Anet devotes a small percentage of their resources to fixing small stuff like this (I know, I know, it is not a small thing to us the players, but it is small to them, the developers). Since there is no subscription to the game, they make their money on gem purchases and new players. Fixing the grouping/tagging system is small potatoes. The majority of development resources is spent on new content to attract new players, and as with this new release, give the current players something new and/or exciting right when a new MMO is releasing.

In Season 4 and 5, errr, I mean Tournament 2 and 3…

I HAVE TRIED everything I can think of, that why I ask for video of tactics against the OP bearbow! So frustrated you people just keep saying move around, I DID MOVE AROUND, ALL OVER THE MAP! Please give video of what to do!

Well, before we go off on this subject more, how about we ask Fuzzion WHY he wants mounts in the game?

Warriors are weak, roll an OP Bearbow ranger! Hammer trains are so 2013, learn more here: https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/wuv/wuv/Ranger-Pets-Overpowered/first#post3690755

Offair.2563:

ghost.3208:

Offair.2563:

Q: how to deal with rangers pets.

A: keep running around ignore the pet and stress out on ranger throwing everything to his/her face, ranger dead, pet dead, 2 birds ( or bears ) 1 stone story.

If you fail to do that, its not the pet being OP but the player being to stupid to anticipate on very telegraphed skills such as wolfs howl or murrelows poison

Go check on Rangers subforum CDI and read how many people say pet’s AI is broken which is true yet some people come here and complain about it. Maybe the ranger will own u in 1v1 or in small scale fights but any class can do the same.

This is clearly a Learn2Play, heck Learn2Anticipate and not an Overpowered issue

Alright but, can you like make a video of this tactic? Because ever since yesterday everyone has been saying the same advice and so far I haven’t seen much progress.

Teach me how can you beat those bears? I even went underwater to escape from the ranger and his bears but they can go underwater too. I really don’t understand how constantly moving helps if you get CC’ed to the max.

Bears dont CC, all their attacks are melee based so if u move around the pet will do its animation but your out of range already, just keep running around and aim for the ranger, not the pet.

A few pets can do cc from range but most are used by the F2 function but it often doesnt work or go on CD without doing anything.

I HAVE TRIED THIS AND IT DOESNT WORK!!! I run around all day and since I can’t get into range to attack the ranger the OP bear ends up killing me!! Please, like someone asked, upload video of your tactics against the OP bearbow!! I can hardly get out of my spawn before I get OP beared to death!

Not bears, those are not bear! They are Dire Fluffy Hell Spawn!

Plus, don’t trolls turn to stone in the sunlight? Why ppl think trolls more OP than Bearbow????

Arrow Carts have wheels, move them!

So you suggest bringing a hammer train to stop ONE pet?? Bro, hammer trains are so 2013, all it takes is a few experienced Bearbow OP rangers and that hammer train is stopped. Bearbow zergging is going to win the upcoming tournament, watch and see.

Well, if they put in mounts they should be easily seen from a distance to give the riders presence away and move no faster than yaks,

So I give you the new GW2 mount…

This is the second thread about how OP rangers are. Must be time for a nerf…

TheGrimm.5624:

I am renaming my bear tonight to MrCuddlesFearMe.

What server are you on? I need to get my hammer train gathered to kill your bear before it drinks water after midnight…

Or is it that bears can not look at porn after midnight, I forget…

You hit the bear right on the head! Imagine, the before-now completely unstoppable hammer trains you fear meet a host of bears head on…suddenly the hammer train is GLUED to the ground by the OP bears while the ranger master unleashes holly hell with his OP longbow! Hammer trains are so 2013 now…

Yes bears! Some people say Lions and Tigers, but it is bears, oh my!!

Ya know the ACs have wheels for a reason, just move them out of the AoE…

King Amadaeus.8619:

Cantur Soulfyre.5409:

Should call them something else to match how OP they are, something like “Gigantic Killer Bear with No Fear and Lots of Health” or something close to that.

Stuff of nightmares…

Now I will have nightmares, thanks…

And look, SIX claws PER foot? AND those teeths

Should call them something else to match how OP they are, something like “Gigantic Killer Bear with No Fear and Lots of Health” or something close to that.

I know. I am a big, mighty warrior and this little guy with a bow (seriously, like some little sliver in the leg will really slow my Norn Warrior down THAT much) that is already overpowered by being able to slow me down from a distance and deal damage from a distance can then call a companion to further slow me down and deal more damage? And can then go invis after all that while their pet can still attack me?

But you are safe, don’t you dance in the middle of combat for fun anyways?

I play a warrior because, well, I have always like melee more than casting. And do not listen to the folks who say warriors only press one. I can personally vouch that I have pressed other numbers on occasion. Maybe if those others folks would make things more difficult warriors would have the need to press other buttons…

King Amadaeus.8619:

styx.7294:

King Amadaeus.8619:

jojojoon.8607:

King Amadaeus.8619:

Baladir.2736:

Vol.7601:

SoR died before EotM, stop blaming things for the sake of blaming.

Are we going to blame LA rescue for SoR dying as well?

Point taken. Still, look at the SoR commanders post just above. Nothing but stress. “sustain the coverage to remain competitive” “split mainly between the hardcore players and the non-hardcore players. It has since been resolved mainly by the guilds leaving” “population’s recruiting pool has became very poor” “very large amount of numbers, time, and energy required to maintain hardcore competitiveness” “unsustainable” an on and on.

The WvW meta has one 15 minute break once a week. The rest of the time the game and scoring are on. I’ve never seen anything like it. Granted I do have only played a handful of games, but hardcore raiding was never like this. This simply burns people out. I’ve never seen so much rage quitting. Players quitting guilds. Guilds splitting or collapsing. Guilds quitting servers. Just for the sake of the score. We have to get the score. We have to be top scorer. Never mind that fights and the fun don’t change regardless of the score. It’s simply crazy how people buy into all this.

The problem is that the metric was asinine from the launch, but many fell for it because on the surface that is what it seems like WvW is “about”…It is compounded that the world is full of sheep (ever seen a tagged up karma train?), therefore people are/have/will run themselves ragged over chasing PPT which is (once again) still an asinine metric; without ever coming to the realization that PPT chasing only leads to heartbreak in the end.

I feel sad for the people that have played since launch and still think that PPT matters, or not that it matters, that it is relevant to anything remotely tied to their individual play or efforts.

Keep staying up til 4am to upgrade garri, keep calling into work, keep missing class, next week the cycle will start all over and you can do it all again. Then leagues will come and then it will “matter even more”….The sooner people come to the realization of the situation then we as players can hopefully start to change the landscape…Because God knows ANET seems to be helpless to do anything about it.

This attitude towards PPT is one of the main reasons why SOR imploded since it only accepts one type of play style in wvw. If it continues, the only people left on the server doing wvw are only the hardcore wvw players who plays for fights only.

I know people who likes to play wvw strategically like a chess match and playing for PPT allows this. They try to predict enemy movements and come up with counter moves. I also know some that plays wvw like sims/civilization where they try to “maintain” their homeland, and that involves upgrading structures, running yaks and making sure all structures get supplies. To these people, playing the way they think is fun indirectly affects ppt.

My comments are not directed at the handful of people that log in to this game and play PPT for the 2-3 hrs a day they play then log out and think nothing about it beyond that…My comments are aimed at the masses that obsess over it, and to some extent let it dictate how/when/why they play.

I am all for people playing for “fun”, the problem with that logic is when you talk to people that play for PPT they only have “fun” when they are “winning”.

The ones that don’t care typically have not been playing since launch. It may be worth it in T1, but short of there, everyone else will eventually realize that you only control (in terms of PPT) what your server-coverage allows.

I would say the ones who have been playing since launch are the ones who have found ways to lead with losing. If you lose your kitten while you’re losing then after a year and a half your kitten is totally gone. WvW involves hundreds of players. Much of it is beyond any one person’s control.

It’s like newer players who are like “Oh no! We’re losing by 20k points!” or “Oh no! We’re ticking at +20!” or “Oh no! We lost garrison while I was sleeping!”

Life goes on, guilds come and go, new people show up in WvW as old ones stop playing. WvW is such a long game, you can’t sweat the lil’ things. Don’t burn yourself out, don’t worry what tier you’re in. Your tier doesn’t say anything about you, your guild, or whatever. Tiers are nonsense. It’s not important. Do the best with what you got and only measure yourself against the person you were yesterday. I don’t care what servers are better than Gate of Madness, I only care whether I’m better than I was yesterday.

Whatever happens just remember the mantra: fight, kill, have fun.

Truth.

^ +2

How aboot them pets drop agony on you?

Qaelyn.7612:

Basically, they gave up.

A couple of weeks ago a bunch of SoR people were in here proudly declaring that they “only care about fights” because “PPT doesn’t matter” and that they were essentially tanking on purpose to move from tier 1 to tier 2. And so they got slaughtered for a couple of straight weeks.

They seemed quite pleased about this, with some even expressing glee that they were (in their view) messing things up for BG and JQ.

Apparently quite a number of people on SoR still do realize that PPT and server pride do matter, and so they went to servers where others also care about winning regular WvW. Most of the others are probably still in EotM.

SoR had the ability to remove itself from tier 1, but not to decide where they would end up. It’s a great lesson in how hard it can be to stop a slide (in any context) once it starts.

Oh, and also a great example of how EotM is destroying WvW.

Doesn’t that other thread show most of the SoR guilds transferred to JQ? The one where the JQ guy is asking other people to not stack on other servers that fight JQ…

Deli.1302:

http://www.gw2wvw.net/topic/results-week-1-na-guild-power-poll

I hear that is more popular opinion than anything. I think a better idea would be to do a SurveyMonkey of the Guild you hate to fight the most would show a better result.

Wish there was someway for something like the old GW1 Hall of Heros (I think it was called, been a long time) Guild battles that you could watch (think it was guild battles, might have been smaller). Having a tournament system that that would be awesome.