Born and raised in Sorrow’s Furnace – WvWvWest Coast Squad
“All hail the mighty Flame Ram!!!” – said by Someone Somewhere at Sometime
Keep in mind, we cannot prevent our trolls/griefers or fairweather players to do stupid stuff. Most of the people who do play WvW (guilds, roamers, etc) have agreed to not camp spawn during ANY match up. This spawn camping happens in EVERY matchup when one side is so lopsided.
So, is [pro] a “trolls/griefers or fairweather” guild? Because they are the ones that have been camping ET spawn on EB.
No idea, but I know that while we were on YBBL on reset night, PRO and LOOT zergs got wiped by us multiple times. I know that our numbers MAYBE matched theirs in a few fights but I know we were outnumbered most of them. Had to merch multiple times just after those couple of fights.
Unless the guild spawn camping is Glob, which is the only guild worth a kitten on YB, you guys just need to quit whining, get together and go grab your free loot bags and wxp. Only very sad players spawn camp and even sadder players whine about it instead of doing something about it.
Amen!
yaks numbers or not they still are really really bad players, the main reason them even getting matched up with us is because they cant cope with servers in their tier who actually cordinate and have tactics lmao oh man u guys crack me up.. btw [GLOB] needs to leave your server you dnt deserve them. on a lighter note it was tons of fun flipping yaks t3 garri and hills earlier today. cheers.
It’s attitudes like this that make us do things like this
Have fun trying to get out now.And it’s pics like that which just shows how pathetic your server truly is.
Hey I tired being nice in the beginning because I know how crappy it is to be on the receiving end of this sort of thing. I know it sucks, so I don’t blame you for being mad. But your forum warriors have gotten on my nerves and my patience is gone now. So i’m going to drop all the siege I have throughout this entire matchup and really give you something to cry about now.
LOL, like a server holds elections on “their” forum warriors? As I am sure you know, the majority of posters are a vocal minority and are usually the lamer players of a server (with exceptions of course, like King Amadeus, that dood can fight!). So you are telling us that you are being even more of a jerk by placing even MORE siege to spawn camp all of a servers players because of a few on the forum?
Sorry guy in last post, your “award” has been rescinded and re-awarded to this winner.
You just loose all the respect we can have for your servers with this kind of attitude, ok you are beign destroyed because coverage, massive YB numbers, etc. You should man up and get out and figth and have fun, not just whining here, all server have bad elements, bad players, bad roamers, etc. even Tier 1 ones, deal with it.
SF and ET two of the most sad servers I ever faced, even from my time in dragonbrand, only kitten and bs in this post, so sad.
LOL, and basing your opinion of a server on the vocal minority who actually post. You win the Best Lame Comment Award!!! Be proud, it used to be GoM folks who won that regularly but then they transferred to IoJ or something…
Oh, while I am thinking about it. Anyone else from SF get pulled under the map when that Treb in Bay was built on that little sand island north of the north inner gate? Quite interesting swimming around around there. This was Sunday, I think…
and 10 is a zerg now??
…yes?
Ok, you got me. I can’t tell if that is an affirmation or not…
I happened to be with WZ a couple nights ago where they took SF’s bay and a mesmer from SF was doing the same thing,
Chances are they were just doing to SF what SF did to us
In the end we ended up losing it because we couldn’t keep up with the constant waves of attacks and not being able to repair the gates
Must say it went from annoying to fun pretty fat once DH joined the party
LOL, of course SF did something bad first. MOMMY, he jumped on my corpse!!!
Meanwhile, the rest of us just keep playing, just keep playing, playing, playing, playing, playing…
But but but but but but but but but but
Sf and Hod ET and FC are already the biggest servers, joining them would be like going to a playground and chosing the top 4 school athletes to compete agaisnt the other kids wo clearly aren’t at their prime yet to do much…
Ok look DHIOJ is clearly a weaker molecule compared to SFFCHODET which by far outweighs the others according to the Millenium Table of elements, and the ARDR molecule by far isn’t even being near a noble gas as compared to SFFCHODET, seriously , this would create and imbalance, making SFFCHODET oversaturated, unless if of course the NSP buffer was present…
Thing is, the only one I personally came up with was Devona’s Anvil of Madness.
Dark Isle of Janthaven’s been mentioned for months, and Sorrow’s Terrace of Denravi’s Crossing was coined by -iirc- an old SFer during the Glicko Ghetto days.
(Specifically so that the enemy’d see a “STD” tag during WvW…)
As for the molecular pattern, you forgot that the ARDR is actually an ARDRGOM.
Which, when there are enough GoMnomberry Particules, would produce a hefty amount of (over-?)saturation. You must be one of those … Synergetics people.
Thank you, I was the one who wanted the STD as our mega-server tag
Goodfight to those six SF in FC BL who fought me, the Guard and the Thief. Although laughing at the end and jumping on my body was very unsportsmanlike.
SF tend to do that. Though the SF I know from the ghetto days where much nicer and respectable, its only recently they have turned into kittens.
FC and SF got tired of drama long ago when we were in the glicko ghetto. What you are experiencing is the same on every server, there are good players and there are the rest. Those jumping and doing such things (which yes, your server does the EXACT same things so stop pretending only people on SF do it) are mainly PvE players not knowing how to act. They should grow up as you should as well for calling out a whole server for a few toons antics.
Good job Clint! +1
Ok seriously, I’m seeing bad SF zerging quality here… This zerg in particular got wiped 2v10ish by me and a guildie alone b/c they wanted to zerg me while I was 1v2ing a few SF and spawn camped us to legendaries. If you allow that to happen as a commander… I have nothing to say… (Btw, had fun sitting on the commander that organized spawn camping 2 GoM :P)
(Took the pic midfight tho, had killed the commander once and a few beforehand wiped to legendaries.)
LOL, pug zerg. Not one of our real zergs. and 10 is a zerg now??
I fully understand though after yesterday why you guys are even in a match up with us.. honestly wldn’t mind getting u guys for a second week.. gonna miss smackin’ around a rank 13 server :/
I’m going on a limb here and say that you are unlikely to speak for anyone else.
Please understand, one person in one guild does not a server represent. Every server has their good folks and their bad eggs. For what it is worth, it has been an incredibly interesting and fun week and we learn more fighting the higher ranked servers than stomping on the smaller ones. Good luck and hope we see you guys again in the future!
^ LOL, you sounds mad bro. And please, what guild are you referring to? Or is making vague references and demeaning a guild you do not name more of those “T1” tactics you spout about?
Also, if you want to call anyone or any guild out, why not put up your character name and what server and guild you represent?
PS. There is a guild on SF named Walmart [WMT] but I do not think that is the one you are talking about…
Good fights near the bloodlust alters on Kain BL…too bad those OBEY guys give you such a bad name…not only are they pretty bad at skirmishing, they are the types of sore losers that jump on corpses when they 5v1 someone…
To everyone else on Kain, good on ya!
Not from [OBEY] but I’m sure every server has a few of those. I can remember a few times when that has happened to me while running away from a group of SF guys.
Yup, every server does and hopefully the good players on each server try to stamp out the jerks who do that. I know that our regular core players do.
Just want to say that Sorrow’s Furnace would love to have you guys. I think one of our community organizers contacted you in game so I will leave out the sales pitch. I hope you find a good fit, and if you go to one of our opponents I look forward to the fights.
Seconded, while I too won’t go through the full sales pitch…I will say that I have played on a few servers: NSP, ET, SF, BG, and briefly on JQ. (Mainly in that order) While all were great, I always liked SF and in the end remained on SF. I did so because of the community we have, and the people that are true friends. One of the other reasons I always liked SF is that it is fairly stable, we do not get a ton of transfers and we do not lose a ton of people to transfers. So week to week we know what to expect, we know what we can count on, and we have known each other for quite some time.
It has helped us train the server, get more people into WvW, and retain more talented groups.
Thirded.
I had a great time yesterday in your BL Kaineng, and I am not talking crap. You guys fight well, especially when I see those CNB tags. Made it to the roof in the Garrison’s Lord Room, too bad we had used our supplies on the west outer and then running over to rush in the watergate inner.
Keep up the good fights all week. Sooner or later SF will get a night presence and be closer in these types of matchups.
oh yes, i remember that, i was asleep saying to myself ppt night zergs are so pro.
Ahhh, take it easy on him. :P He is just excited that for once the other servers’ night coverage isn’t running rampage all over our EB and borderlands.
By that I mean, if you look at our history in matchups, we have lost many due to our very poor nighttime (NA) coverage. We hang with the other servers during our strong times (mainly NA primetime, we have a large west coast population) but lose the matchups because of our sleep/work schedules.
So ya, people tend to get excited around here when we can actually hold (and/or take) things during our night/work times.
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I had zero intentions of insulting anyone, I was simply stating/recommending that if SF ramped up the zerg/group tactics and worked together imo you’d devastate people. But in my experience this week, there’s a very good reason why the group I roam with doesn’t run from SF. It’s pretty well known that with working together we can cut through the big groups like hot knives through butter with only 10-15 of us vs 20+ (more often it’s a lot more than 20) SF players. I guess what I meant to say is that if you were a bit more organized instead of “omgush red names CHAAAAARGE” zerging….you’d wreck through some tiers.
If I was chest thumping the videos would’ve already been posted. Simply constructive criticism is all I was going for so don’t take my post the wrong way, no matter what server you’re on.
Also thanks to all of the guilds in the match-up that came to GvG us. The guys and gals in [HARD] had a blast and on behalf of them, thanks for the friendly competition. It helps us all become better players in the end. Kudos to you. And best of luck in the next matchup.
What guild tags were in these zergs? Was there a commander tag? Need to know so we can work with whoever is running these unorganized zergs. Let’s be honest, while SF might have numbers (and from experience, the side you are on always seems to have less numbers most of the time) most of our WvW numbers are because of pugs and not organized guilds, besides the few that most people know about.
And believe me, we are working on training our non-regulars up as much as possible. When my guild runs a zergball we always get a large number of pugs with us because they know they will be getting easy wxp, etc. Many times I have seen it where our guild is going for a certain objective and the pugs will see red names and they break off to get them thinking everyone else will do the same. Of course we always are pounding it in to listen to the commander and do not leave the mass, but in this situation they zerg off on their own leaving the real zerg to do the real work we were in the process of doing anyways.
PS. Sorry if I sounded insulted, it wasn’t really your post I was referring to. I hadnt checked the forums since Tuesday and after reading all the passive-aggressive kitten talk from the other two server’s forum warriors, I was slightly perturbed. I have seen you post here before and you have always been a cool cat.
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Sorry, guess I forgot my “girl drinking tea” gif so…..
LOL, love all the passive aggressive attempts at kitten talking. If we were to believe that you guys always wipe us when we outnumber you then how are we in second?? I know most of the lame talking is by your forum warriors who can’t hold their own on the battlefield so they have to come on here and post gifs (though some are freaking hilarious). But it is still pretty sad when I see three thread pages full of bs about SF and we didn’t have one person posting on those pages.
I for one had a very fun week, the matchup was very close and I can not wait (who know how long I will have to) for SF to get an Oceanic presence to allow us to keep a decent PPT overnight.
Cheers everyone, hope to see you in WvW again so we can continue training our pugs against good competition.
LOL, first time reading this thread. Love how the forum warriors can’t think of anything new to bash SF about. But we learned long ago, just enjoy the matchup you have any way you can because there is NOTHING you can do about it. FergCross knows what I am talking about (sorry, they would let me type FC and knows without putting kitten in there, guess FC and the K mean something, LOL). You are stuck with your opponents, whether you like their play style or not. I mean, seriously, why do you complain about “SF this” or “SF that”? Should we only send in 10 people to take a keep defended by 10 people? You know if you had the numbers you would not either.
And, I would also like to address the dood who thinks SF and FC teamed up against you. LOL, do you even know anything about SF and FC history? We love our little bro but teaming up against the might of AR?? You can’t seriously think we would team up.
Now, as I always like to point out, I know these folks whining about crap are not the majority of their server and that there are a bunch of good, honest players for each keyboard warrior. So I know AR is not full of a bunch of whiners, probably just this guy and a few more.
Keep up the hard work AR and FC. We know what it is like being in your positions, we each have taken the dive down the Tier ranks, ours was December last year and we are still in the process of recovering from that, even with the numbers we field. It is not easy to rebuild to that level of coordination and especially to bring the new WvW players you recruit up to a level where they can at least actively contribute to the tactics and strategy of the server and not just PvDoor everything.
lol dude, this is a thread for three servers fighting each other, where all three servers discuss the matchup, sure, spit some trash talk, boast, etc. but sportsmanship and respect should also go hand in hand with that, If your that much of a hard a** than don’t even bother with forums, because it’s under your macho pay grade. Get competitive and stop playing mickey mouse on here
I only respond without respect when the other person is showing no respect themselves. If you look at it honestly, calling out our entire server for the actions of a few is disrespectful. Telling us we only win because of numbers and that if the fights were even we would lose because we have no skill, is disrespectful. Sure, we do not win all the time, I readily admit that. But if you want to be treated with respect, you treat others with respect. If you go look, and I can only speak for me, I NEVER talk crap unless the other person shows they do not deserve my respect.
Ok, this is actually a game within a game. And it is player versus player combat. You really expect sportsmanship? This isn’t soccer or football, with rules.
Sorry, all I hear is “Whah, they wont let me win! Whaaah, it’s not FAIR!!”
I’LL PLAY PATTYCAKE WITH YOU !
Come on Sav, you know Monday nights are pattycake nights.
Screenshots of the spawn camping since you want to quote numbers. And like I said, still not even close to being all of our server yet you still want to call the entire server out for it.
Then again, is this not combat? Or are we playing patty cake? Why should we take an advantage away from ourselves? Now, I do not spawn camp, but really, there are 3 exits, so stop crying and start playing.
Do you actually think we sit around waiting for people from other servers to log off or something and only then do we take things? LOL, same thing happens to us when NA nighttime and work hours come around. How do you think SM even got taken from us? Because the majority of our population was asleep/at work. Do you hear us crying that it was not fair, the other team had more numbers than us?
LOL, if we were to believe all these “thanks for all the bags” and “it took SF 30-40 ppl zerg an hour to take this against only 10 of us” we wouldn’t have the points we have, no matter the numbers. Remember, every server has their good and bad players, their classy and not-so-classy players. I just don’t go crying on the boards when this crap happens to me. So pull up your underoos and act like you have been there before.
And again, how many are spawn camping? Not the whole server, a small portion at the most, so go ahead and stay as classy as those you accuse of having no class.
This was really fun. For once AR did pretty good. It is weird that we took this castle with no resistance then suddenly a huge zerg pops up to take it back
Maybe they wanted you to flip it so they could zerg WXP. Sounds like something people that play on EB would do.
Don’t think so. It was T3 when we took it and turned it into paper. I think we just caught them by surprise and by the time they responded we had already capped it. I don’t think they expected that from AR.
I am wondering, when you guys took SM, what siege did you use to get through the outer gates? Got any screenshots of that?
Golems. Lots of ‘em (ok, 9 of them, but for us, that’s a LOT).
Sorry, no screenies, but based on my experience so far this match, you all know what golems look like.
Wow, ya, 9 golems will power through some reinforced gates fairly quickly. LOL, yes, I do know. Just trying to figure out why nobody responded from SF to SM being attacked. At least, did not respond until it was too late. Good work on taking it so fast, did you have fun with the golems after that or just WP them back to spawn for something else? When I have a golem of my own I like to take it to the top of SM and jump off, just for the giggles.
This was really fun. For once AR did pretty good. It is weird that we took this castle with no resistance then suddenly a huge zerg pops up to take it back
Maybe they wanted you to flip it so they could zerg WXP. Sounds like something people that play on EB would do.
Don’t think so. It was T3 when we took it and turned it into paper. I think we just caught them by surprise and by the time they responded we had already capped it. I don’t think they expected that from AR.
I am wondering, when you guys took SM, what siege did you use to get through the outer gates? Got any screenshots of that?
lol, A F K
/15 char limit
Sounds familiar. Just curious, how many SF folks were Akitten the lord room when you guys took it?
And then we lost it. Dont really know why you all stayed in this hallway for so long against about 10 people
LOL, count those green dots again bro…
Actually, we now do that just to kitten you off Sav.
You SF guys can’t fool me. You sit around LA spamming whenever you get to play ET. I have seen it. Rallying all of your Fairweather’s with your calls to join the pvdough glory through the promised megazergs.
I was impressed SF with your scouting commitment at Anz..Spel…Mendons afterwe took them out yesterday morning. Thankful AR helped us reset after you wiped us at lords. I wish we would have defended our 1/3 better once you gathered the megazerg of revenge. But that’s on me…I won’t let it be so cakewalkish next time….shakes fist
-brotha
But we only do that when it is ET or FC. Can’t let either little brother show us up!
Ya, I Spent the better part of the day running around that area to make sure we were upgrading again and taking out any forces trying to snipe things. I must have done the dredge friendship thing half a dozen times solo.
Took forever to get the WP back up in SM too, you guys and AR kept taking those camps I was upgrading constantly. ARG!!!!
I agree, which is why I do not spawn camp at all. I know when we have run up against server that boast more WvW population that we do, we get spawn camped. I just happen to know there are more than one exit so I go left or right instead of straight ahead.
I have been having fun, I always do. If something is frustrating me, I just go do something else. Take yesterday for example. We were holding ETs keep for a while and they started making a major push to re-capture it. Most of our EB forces were dedicated to that so you guys started taking your side back after we had capped it all. You ended up taking all of your side of EB back while we were hanging onto ETs keep. Seemed like a lose-lose situation to me, an enemy keep is just not worth losing 1/3 of the map you already had taken.
So I went and killed Destroyer Harpies/Trolls/Crabs. And those mean harpies at the Ogres.
I would also just like to point out, before you start talking smack to SF about forum postings (you know who you are) and get all upset about SF not respecting your server, etc. realize that you are accusing our server based on a few posts on a forum or a small number of our players camping your spawn.
If you want to judge our entire server by a few forum posts, we shall do the same and call your server whiners. After all, one forum posts represents the entire server, no?
As far as spawn camping, never done it and never will. Do I push you guys back to the spawn, of course. Do I camp there for hours and not let anything out, nope. Some people from our server might do that, not sure since I am always on the move to something not boring. But I am not going to tell someone else they cant because you don’t think it is fair. After all, this is a battleground, is it not? Plus, every spawn has multiple exits.
LOL /15 characters
Please try to get through to (at LEAST) #5 as quick as you can. A lot of us are really excited about the possibility of an ET vs. FC vs. AR matchup and hopefully you guys can be too.
(oh and PS, for the love of Hayseuss, PLEASE don’t resort to alcohol or drugs as an escape).
I don’t know, HoD seems to be taking a big hit right now, projected ranking after this matchup have them dropping two ranks. Maybe ETvARvHoD?
Happy Monday! Loved the fights I was involved in this weekend, I played a lot but only got 12 rank levels.
I do have to ask, where did all those folks come from ET? Last night, your keep and surrounding areas in EB. You were fielding some awesome numbers, havnt seen you guys do that in a long time. Especially those long Golanta and Lowland fights, had a great time dying a lot!
LOL, too funny! Oh, and just so you know, it is OP to have matchup thread in the Q format. Just sayin…
Hi. Who will we be matched up against next? I am betting we get AR and maybe IoJ. Anybody else thinking that?
Well, since I am awake anyways. Has some fun killing golems last night, thanks FC!
On a side note, I was building siege around Garrison watergate when I realized I didn’t need to build more because someone outdid me and was building a flame ram on the cliffs above the watergate. With an Almighty Flame Ram being placed in the vicinity, nobody was breaching the watergate.
HEY!! STOP ALL THE TALKING, I AM TRYING TO SLEEP HERE!!
Props to the lone SF charr holding fog camp in GoM bl for half an hour. I was the asuran mes who tried (and failed) to take your camp with the big shiny guardian.
Gratz on preventing SF from getting a +0 tick.
You monster.
That would have been Mr. Leopardclaw. He is an absolute terror when he is on the warpath. I am glad he is on our side, things are not pretty when he goes on a rampage…
She, as I have been reminded.
Sorry Asheni!!!
An SF meltdown would be a disaster. We’ve enjoyed a close match up till now.
lol, it is not a meltdown. You have fought our server before, haven’t you? We have next to zero US overnight and banker hour coverage. Amazingly enough, pretty much everyone on SF actually sleeps at night and works during normal US work hours.
We have never fought you, and we have the same issues on DR.
Yes you have. Though it’s been many, many moons (back in our server’s dark days).
Needless to say the SF that exists now was not the SF that existed then.
Just like the DR that exists now is not the same. Duh.
Props to the lone SF charr holding fog camp in GoM bl for half an hour. I was the asuran mes who tried (and failed) to take your camp with the big shiny guardian.
Gratz on preventing SF from getting a +0 tick.
You monster.
That would have been Mr. Leopardclaw. He is an absolute terror when he is on the warpath. I am glad he is on our side, things are not pretty when he goes on a rampage…
An SF meltdown would be a disaster. We’ve enjoyed a close match up till now.
lol, it is not a meltdown. You have fought our server before, haven’t you? We have next to zero US overnight and banker hour coverage. Amazingly enough, pretty much everyone on SF actually sleeps at night and works during normal US work hours.
This is very true.
Unfortunately, I spend way too much time showing off my sylvari’s sweet dance moves instead of farming the last 32 points needed for a completed AC mastery.
LOL, nice! Sweet moves!
Thank you for the loot SF
It was much appreciated <3
That is all you got from pressing 1, 2, or 3 rapidly?? Shame, shame. Having a 4 and 5 button to spam probably would have gotten you some more bags…
If you’re ever outnumbered by XOXO, quickly /bow to a random one and they’ll give you a 1v1. Now you’re no longer outnumbered!
This is proven strategy thumbs up
Back in the DH/GoM/NSP matchup, a group of XOXO took our north camp and proceeded to build a treb to fire on the power orbs. I popped out of the doorway to citadel to say hi, but being alone, I couldn’t hope to take back the camp. A female norn (guard, I think?) walked over to me and started dancing. I moved away from the doorway and bowed to her, hoping to get a fight. She took off her pants and kept dancing. I bowed again. It was about this time that two of her thief friends jumped me from behind.
I can confirm this. Most of my /waves and /bows at XOXO end up with me getting chased halfway across a map by a whole group of XOXO/SPCA/tM while getting whispered, “Come back! We want to give you HUGS!”
but i really wanted to give you a hug :/
But your hugs always end in violence :/
Gutbuster Brigade to the rescue!!!
(if you read Forgotten Realms series you probably know the reference to violent hugs)
Nice fights against both youse servers in our BL last night. Banjo had us rolling ALL over taking back the places you guys “rented” from us. I especially enjoyed the nice little fight with the DH zerg at Fog supply camp. When you guys came rolling around behind those buildings my axes were whirling and twirling to my heart’s delight! As usual I got kilt (and then ressed) but once we took the fight I was able to grab most of my bags before we rolled back out.
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