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I’d rather they ask money up front and honestly then trying to nickle and dime they player/customer.
Action and consequences. You have to be responsible for your marketing. You can’t welcome good PR and ignore the bad ones. Man it up or go out with it.
It’s just anet trying to see if people are willing to buy a 2 in 1 feature pack patch for 50usd. Cos after this there will be no base game/expansion differentiation. It’s all just a 50usd patch ^^
What’s the price for the base game now? Can i buy the base game only? If i can’t then the price for base game is included in the 50usd HoT.
It’s just anet trying to see if people are willing to buy a 2 in 1 feature pack patch for 50usd. Cos after this there will be no base game/expansion differentiation. It’s all just a 50usd patch ^^
It’s just anet trying to see if people are willing to buy a 2 in 1 feature pack patch for 50usd. Cos after this there will be no base game/expansion differentiation. It’s all just a 50usd patch ^^
I for 1 wholeheartedly support going sub, they can ditch the cash shop and put those item in game. Hate the current RNG cash shop thingy.
If you want money, tell me up front, don’t beat around the bushes and try to low ball me. If it’s fair i have no qualm giving.
It’s just anet trying to see if people are willing to buy a 2 in 1 feature pack patch for 50usd. Cos after this there will be no base game/expansion differentiation. It’s all just a 50usd patch ^^
It’s just anet trying to see if people are willing to buy a 2 in 1 feature pack patch for 50usd. Cos after this there will be no base game/expansion differentiation. It’s all just a 50usd patch ^^
Do you work for Anet? If not what you’ve just said is just your own interpretation.
Before the launch of gw2 they have repeatedly assured gw1 player that they get full autonomy to do what they want from ncsoft. Including marketing their game in b2p business model and giving free update.
Well at least my statement is back by past interview. Did they pm/email/tweet you that their hand are tight in this matter? Defend with fact and not just wishful thinking.
Anet is founded by blizzard founder who is fed up and tired of the bureaucratic environment at blizzard as it had grown out of their hand into the hand of shareholder and they vow to make it right with anet.
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What’s the price for the base game now? Can i buy the base game only? If i can’t then the price for base game is included in the 50usd HoT.
It’s just anet trying to see if people are willing to buy a 2 in 1 feature pack patch for 50usd. Cos after this there will be no base game/expansion differentiation. It’s all just a 50usd patch ^^
Want
-1600 gem for owning the core game
-1x slot for new class
-price is ok as it is
Future want
-monthly sub of 10usd
-remove gem shop and put those item cosmetic ingame
-stop money grabbing marketing (ur just making ur company look stupid)
It’s just anet trying to see if people are willing to buy a 2 in 1 feature pack patch for 50usd. Cos after this there will be no base game/expansion differentiation. It’s all just a 50usd patch ^^
Oo? What’s the price for the base game now? Can i buy the base game only? If i can’t then the price for base game is included in the 50usd HoT.
It’s just anet trying to see if people are willing to buy a 2 in 1 feature pack patch for 50usd. Cos after this there will be no base game/expansion differentiation. It’s all just a 50usd patch ^^
Now the question is do YOU understand what you’ve been duped into? Probably no, but well at least i tried.
Sincerity and trust has been lost with their untimely response. MMO market is a competitive 1 with lots of great title offering tons of high quality free content. I doubt they’ll survive if this continue. Before you know it there’ll be mass exodus to TSW, blade and soul, tera, aion, swtor, etc etc
I’m sure there’s enough fans out there to defend anet if it turned into a class action lawsuit. They’ll work their magic convincing the judge and jury how good anet have been to them in the past ^^ it works everytime in every thread ^^
Still no update after Point of interest show?
Haven’t got time to tune in that show, anyone care to update?
If everyone need to pay 100usd just to get the expansion i’d pay for it. But i won’t pay to be treated like some 2nd class customer. But frankly after 2 days, i don’t think i’ll continue to play or support anet even if they launch HoT for free now. Unless they manage to move me with their PR damage control which i doubt it.
Sincerity and trust is quite lacking from their side.
It’ll be a joke of the industry if this pre purchase cos them a huge loss of playerbase^^
Forum gone down, highest upvoted thread of all time at their reddit is a boycott HoT thread etc etc
I for 1 ain’t buying HoT until they fix this farce.
Was planning to pre purchase just to show support the dev till i finish watching the pre purchase trailer on it, quite a pooper.
-Have no use for title as i’ve better title to wear and u can only wear 1
-not quite digging the bling bling flier (weird that i didn’t like any of those extravagant shinning gear in game)
-running a private guild with a few friends so not even sure if the gh is attainable
-no time to participate in beta event and even if i had the time i’d also skip it in order to experience a better game at launch. (Normally i even skip the 1st week to skip the overcrowded starter area)
Most people with busy RL won’t be so hardcore thus i doubt half of the playerbase get half of ur playtime. That said having play for 3 years and only invest for around 200 hours max i’d say i’ve supported at least 50usd in gem to the dev. What have you been doing? Trying to squeeze every penny out of your purchase?
What i’m saying here is that there’s a lot of type of player playing this game and ur value calculation math on this subject is ridiculously flawed. So when customer/player feel they have a problem with the deal, yes they’re entitle to complain. They’re fighting for a better deal, while what i don’t understand is what are you fighting for? A worse deal? And is trying to block effort of people trying to get u a better deal? How gullible is the average consumer is nowadays?
And if the whole forum and reddit is in kittenstorm over this matter and you still don’t understand why people and long time supporter are genuinely upset then u need a reality check before even labeling people. One thing the world need more is people who can think and evaluate and not blind faith zealot running around defending stuff in the name of their belief.
With your ability to hardcore grind i’d suggest you try out those f2p title as i’m sure you’ll be amaze by how much value you can get out of those without even spending a single penny.
While my post may be crude and hard but at least i did not started a topic belittling all those affected by this marketing announcement. How often do you see thread going 3k post in 24 hours and gw2 redit getting 2.5k upvote in a day? If thats not an issue or indicator that something is wrong then i don’t know what is. And you should know that your topic is an insult a kitten lot of people.
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Their excuse just show how gullible gw2 playerbase is. I’ve always supported anet since gw1 launch but when they make a stupid marketing decision someone need to let them know we’re not digging it.
This sum up most of the major discussion
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Am9gVQB8gss
I will be honest; I find this upsetting.
I stuck with GW2 because of it’s no grind philosophy, and I was happy with the fact that Ascended was there for people who wanted it, but it was not so strong so as to make it become mandatory.
Not to be cliche, but I just don’t have as much gaming time as I once used to, and I liked that GW2 was not so intensive on time to feel like it was worthwhile.
Same boat as you, dang this is quite the news if it’s true T_T
How gullible can a player/supporter be when the people are posting video like this
This is the only video you need to see: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Am9gVQB8gss
Lol yea this will give u the therapy u needed haha
Everything in the world has a price. Market forces set prices. If a product or service is too expensive then less people buy it and it goes out of business. The customer always has the choice.
If you don’t pay, then you don’t get the product. Simple as that. Complaining on a forum will never change prices.
So you have the choice – If you deem the product too expensive – keep your money, or shop elsewhere. But remember – the choice was yours to make.
I made my choice, and I get to play Heart of Thorns.
So why are you concern about people complaining the price+free base game issue? The forum is for people to voice up and not for people to shut up.
So far anet staff have issue statement that our feedback on this will be relay to the team, does that sound like nothing to you?
And if our concern is somehow heard and address properly, will you lose anything? I’d say ur “purchase” will be boosted or improve.
So why are you asking people to shut up and stop complaining? Just because people have a different opinion? Is blind faith in a game/company so important that any criticism should be silence?
Realistically have you consider that they’ve announced all there is to it for the new HoT? One thing from GH announcement they they might haven’t announce yet might be the mount as i see bikes in the footage.
Yh, you’ll end up paying more for the buffet. But you’ve also been eating from it for the last 3 years, while the new guy hasn’t.
If ur hardcore gaming aiming for end game stuff then yea you’ll pay a lot more than normal sub game but if ur a casual gamer then no, you could basically play for free all you want without much restriction with a lots of game nowadays.
Yes i’ve been eating it for the last 3 years, thats cos i’ve paid for it 3 years ago. And now he’s getting double my portion for the same price.
What its about is people attaching substantial value to something that doesn’t have substantial value. Veterans don’t WANT an new account and yet people are trying to bargain with ANet like not getting one is a big deal. If they did, people would be buying the package and firing up brand new accounts with HoT access instead of applying their code to their existing account.
Yes. Their release plan was thoughtless and stupid and should totally have provided the semblance of caring about existing customers even thought we all know the reality is new players are where the money is for them. There should have been a cookie. ANd if there isn’t a cookie offered in the next 2 weeks, I’ll be shocked. But if people are expecting a giant verbal capitulation and apology while E3 is still running, they’re fooling themselves.
ANet will save face after the media frenzy, not during it.
I’m sure a lot of player won’t mind another free account for extra bank and daily laurel/reward farming. Or even to gift or sell to another friend
I think it would have been in good taste to give us a char slot. But i don’t think you can expect them to still ask 50 bucks for a 3 year old game. If i buy COD 2 years after release, it’s gonna be cheaper. Even if they added some extra maps.
And why have people never been this upset about the sales weekends then? New ppl were able to buy the game for 10 dollars, a lot less than veteran players. Noone kittened about that
The base game is not even available for purchase anymore and it’s permanently replace by HoT. so basically u can even look at it as HoT is the NEW base game and while new player just buy HoT we end up buying gw2 twice.
Does anyone, and I mean ANYONE think that new players with a naked account are starting from anything like parity with a 3 year veteran?
They get a free game. Good for them. I get new players to play with without unnecessary barriers to entry. Good for me and the game as a whole.
I realize enlightened self-interest is hard because it takes thinking about where you’ll be in a day or week or month rather than right this second as you’re clicking “buy now” but dang people…
I think those f2p games will suit your taste more as gw2 is using a b2p model so yea we will care if some people are getting this game for free and some people need to pay for it.
Imagine going to a restaurant where some eats for free and some need to pay. Doesn’t make sense does it?
I’m sorry but it’s kinda ridiculous that people are angry that others are getting sth that they don’t need themselves. I’d agree if the expac was cheaper for new players or sth like that. That would have been very unfair and not okay.
But that some new player is getting the core game with it, why would that bother me?
I’m glad, cause it’ll be an incentive for people to buy this bundle and that means more players ingame.
Basic human need
-perception of fairness
-perception of good deal
-perception of being appreciated and def not the opposite of that
Would you think the gold bar i’m selling to you for 10usd is worth anything when other people is getting 2 gold bar for the same price?
If anet handled their marketing better thread like this would be praising HoT instead of shaming it. Quite a nice way to “pre launch” your new baby.
its about how anet treat their loyal customer. even WoW’s expansion still require new player to buy the original copy
So you would be happy if it costed 50 bucks and forced new players to buy the original?
So it’s not so much that you want something, you want others not to have something.
Just buy the expac if you want it and don’t spend too much attention on what others get, life isn’t always fair.
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So you’d actively support/promote unfair practice? Most people would prefer fair treatment and practice if given the choice and voice up when injustice or unfair things happen. So i think you might need a little help on ur side…..
If core copy is of no value then give it for free or let us purchase it for the “some symbolic amount of money, but nothing more” I could sure use some account for laurel farming i think maybe tons of gold farmer would appreciate it as well.
Here is answer to all argument. Want it, have money for it, Buy it. Want it, no money for it, save up money.Don’t want it, don’t buy it. It is that simple. All the arguments and rioting are getting ridiculous.
This response is misplaced. This thread is not a complaint at all.
I’m saying this to those who complain, not pointed at the OP.
Reported for trolling, if you do not have anything constructive to add to the concern/complain/discussion then feel free not to spam all over the forum like a broken record. Most of us aren’t even entertaining post like this as it’s plain as day how out of touch you are with what people are trying to discuss.
+1 coming from a gw1 at launch player. Sad to see this type of marketing by anet, never thought this day would come.
Well they might not have anything else to annouce ^^
As for me i’d rather have those vet bonus in gems as not everyone will need a slot or bank slot for the new expansion.
I’d agree, it’s a slippery slope they’re heading
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Well you could lodge a complain to the domestic trade department/ministry and ask them to follow up as it’s quite a shady business practice. Have seen some thread on this on reddit coming up and gaining traction due to the changes in the FAQ before and after pre purchase annoucement and various sales going on before the pre purchase started
Putting money out in other people hands and hoping for the best is the worst thing you can do in life. Learn it before someone put a real scam on you. I’m not saying anet is scamming you on this 1 but your’re exposing urself to unnecessary risk
They won’t get the immediate effect but overtime they’ll lose out a lot of their customer. Mainly those that spent a lot on gems to support them.
For those who is saying that the game has depreciate quite a bit in 3 years of service then please join the petition for it to be seperated out of the bundle then we can see how “free” or “cheap” or “depreciated” the original game would be and i think that would solve the issue most people have been complaining as well.
Well i for 1 would love to grab multiple core base game at 4.99 each ^^
Even after all the thread out today, some people still doesn’t get the point that bundling the base game together with HoT doesn’t make it free or low value. It’s just a buy 1 free 1 marketing strategy
Thrudrheim does have a point with the vanila expansion request.
While i’m ok with bonus to compensate for the free base game new player are getting i’d rather get them in gems worth as not everyone will want a character slot, makeover kit etc etc. With gems as compensation you can grab whatever you need to transits into HoT
There are different types of people in this world. While some may go for logical thinking and rationalization. Some will always choose to have “faith” or “believe” in what they do and will not accept any rhyme or reason. That being said
To understand the motive that drive this 2 group into conflict in this forum
Whinner
They generally wanted to get a better deal or is upset of the policy of the company/product
Fanboy
They generally love the game and but is upset that people don’t agree with them.
The term are used to identify the group for better identification and in no means degrading them. But there is no hope in this going down in a civilize manner as whiner will continue to whine as they’re unsatisfied while fanboy will continue to defend as accepting the concern of whiner goes against their believe and even to some extent makes their purchase/decision look stupid.
Hopefully u can rest any hope of these 2 group ever coming together in a civilize manner.
Free? Where can i sign up for just the “free” base game? Luckily most people are not so gullible at marketing 101 : There’s no such thing as a free lunch
Haven’t seen this level of fanboying since swtor pre launch era and ff14 original version first launched. Always thought gw2 community was better than this but we’re just human right?
HoT will be free in future like core game ?
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Lol, if only there would be some guild dedicated to waiting for HoT to go free, it may start a trend
Maybe i’ll get a chance to solo shatterer once HoT comes along ^^
Frankly i’m in the same boat, so far none of the feature/class/specialization from HoT are to my liking and with the fiasco with the HoT pre purchase i’m gonna just stick with vanilla
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