Guild Wars 2

I would hope queue times on bandwagon gate cause people to leave. Then again, anyone stacking bandwagongate has zero self respect so they could ride it out indefinitely for a few more loot bags.

Mister Asdasd.6194:

I have been playing power warrior with greatsword for over 3 years now but lately whenever i go to fractals i get people complaining why i am playing greatsword warrior and not condition. A few weeks ago people where still asking for PS warriors but requests become more and more specific like looking for cPS meaning ps warrior but with condition build, Some people would actually leave the group because i was not playing condition warrior and of course gw2 style a chain reaction occured where even more people would for some reason leave the group although they had no prblem with the build. Anyway i am far too invested now to start getting new gear to change builds and get 150AR all over again for a build i would only use in group content. I have started playing druid as of late because everyone just asks for condition warriors in fractals and i dont want the hustle of people trashtalking and leaving. Did they nerf the power build or did people find new “meta” where they can maximize dps by 1% with condi warrior?

You see what happened is, ArenaNet is massively incompetent and nerfed Berserker for power. It was underperforming in both PvP and PvE content, and they are bad at their Jobs. That being said, I believe condiPS warrior has been optimal for a long while now.

To be concise, ArenaNet is bad at their jobs and nerfed an already under performing spec.

ArenaNet heeyyyyyyy what’s up dudes can we get an answer?

ArenaNet, you have horrible customer service.

Maybe someday anet will provide a simple response to this. Someone will take 10 seconds out of their very busy day of incompetently balancing to say “oh that’s a typo”

Celebrating a whole month with 0 arenanet input! You did it guys!

Seriously, can we get some input on this? It’s such an easy change to make and its super confusing.

TheOneWhoSighs.7513:

I recommend every single person complaining about CC in this thread to ask yourself how often you get frustrated compared to how often you actively look for a solution. Be honest with yourself.

The vast majority of the time I look for a solution.

However, when I come to the forums to discuss WvW, I’m not here to show off my 20 ft long waffle that I some how found a toaster large enough to toast.

I’m here to discuss balance, and things that I perceive as issues.

And that’s where you’ve lost me entirely.

You used to be able to reasonably play a selfish class in WvW, and in GvGs having 2 people playing gank used to be pretty standard.

Now the entire gamemode is a melee train, and you’re screaming “get good” because I’d like to scale back down into the days where playing gank was viable. And where gank wasn’t just a dodge spamming B.S. fest.

Anyone can adapt, but I suppose it takes a bit of a different thought process to look at the big picture and go “This seems wrong”.

Sure I can agree. It’s ALLLL wrong though. Not just CC. The Power Creep is insane, and it’s not going to change. I wish it would too, and god knows we’ve all called for it to stop.

That being said, I do believe that CC is not overbearing currently with the insane amount of passive defenses and active mitigation in the game. With reductions, I think survival/sustain would be far too high.

Without seeing the actual skill levels of people complaining about these things, it’s really hard to gauge if it’s healthy discussion or people that could simply play better. Let me put it this way:

If I can reliably win outnumbered fights in WvW (and I do), it’s not because i’m some super gosu no life, it’s because I see so many people with no idea what the hell they are doing. It’s crazy how low the median mechanical skill level is in this game. Certain things like this are worrisome (if arenanet were to hop on some of these cries for CC to be lessened, it could completely destroy any semblance of balance). Stuff like the primal burst nerf being a bad idea are not as immediately impactful.

It’s fair to make complaints, and people should. On this specific front, I feel it’s just not productive and it’s inaccurate to the reality of current in game functions.

But that just, like, my opinion man.

Serenity.6135:

I wonder if all the players who just say “git gud” wont come back on here complaining about being condi spammed and constantly cc’ed after PoF launches and their stability and resistance is constantly being removed/corrupted.

I’ll be on spellbreaker drinking tears from a gallon jug.

GIT GUUUUUUUDDDDDD

Kuya.6495:

choovanski.5462:

@Kuya

if anet is actually making is so one specialisation is for pve, and the other is for pvp. and are doing this by nerfing the ‘pve specs’ so much that they are not viable in PvP…..

then oh my gosh. if they are consciously doing that. I don’t know what to say. well, apart from that it’s the dumbest decision on earth.
why not have both specialisations viable in PvP and you know, have build diversity? like what is bad about that. why introduce more elite specs then make it so half of the specs only work in one gamemode. it’s such a dumb idea.

like, why not go the engineer route for all classes. both Holo and Scrapper are gonna be viable, and two really different choices.
why you wouldn’t want this for all classes is 100% beyond me. 1 spec for PvP and one for PvE, god what a dumb decision, I honestly hope that’s not the goal here.

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like, as far as beserker goes. removing the primal burst CD nerf, and making it so going into beserk mode counts as a t3 burst would bring it back. it would be good again. it’s not super hard to creatively un-kitten it’s sustain, which is what was nerfed mostly.

Engineer? Are we talking about the same class here? Engineers in pve go core for raiding. Scrapper is only meta in pvp.

Furthermore, maybe you’re right. Making one elite specialize in pvp and another pve is not build diversity in pvp or pve. It is build diversity on the game in general if two elite specs don’t compete for the same spot in the same game mode though. And if it’s between that and having elites being better than the previous ones rather than offering new ways to play a class, than i prefer the former.

I think the problem with the kind of people who post on this forum is a problem of expectations. You expected anet to balance elite specs a certain way and get outraged when they don’t meet your expectations. But you never seem to question whether your expectations are realistic or ultimately desireable in the long term. I think we should all practice more self criticism and study whether our desires and expectations are really practical and whether they match the designer’s vision for what an elite spec should be.

Instead though, on this forum in particular, we seem to act like we’re ordering at McDonald’s.

Fair assessment sir.

Berserker doesn’t work well for Power anymore and I think it was incredibly lazy design. I think there was practical decisions that would have made more sense (and people have made a point in outlining them). Ultimately, we have one less viable build on an underplayed PvP class. I do believe it’s fair to expect more out of a triple a company than what they keep doing.

I’ve gotta ask, what was the designers vision for berserker? Because with a 66% nerf to its on trait effects tied directly into its class mechanic, it would appear that whatever vision there is, they don’t know how to accomplish it. Right now, berserker feels like nothing, and that sentiment is echoed through an overwhelming majority of players.

It is ridiculous to expect things from this company. But I do believe someone will listen and try to pull the positive out of the saltiness they’ve caused and eventually fix it.

Giving credit where it’s due to Anet, I believe I see a “sidegrade” oriented approach to elite specs and they’re just doing a regular sloppy job of implementation due to lack of resources. Ultimately, if they do it right, it’s a direction that will make more people happy.

But I won’t hold my breath. See below.
https://youtu.be/64eQ-6kyv0k

Most issues in this and any game can honestly be answered with “how could I have approached/executed this better?” It’s a question I ask myself in every game I play.

I record most of my roaming and sometimes when I’m less experienced on a class I go back and see the tools I didn’t use right. And when I’m experienced on a class, I sort of know right away when I made a horrible mistake. It’s very often that I say “aw man, I goofed hard.” I try to play with people that are more likely to say “oops” than “this is kitten and overpowered.” They are fun to be around, and they win more.

I recommend every single person complaining about CC in this thread to ask yourself how often you get frustrated compared to how often you actively look for a solution. Be honest with yourself.

drcraig.9403:

ButterPeanut.9746 I expect you’re correct on both counts. At this point with almost 90 views I got exactly what I expected. No replies other than yours. Goes to show, nobody is treated as poorly as the Warrior.

Someone from each class should post this quote on each class subforum for thoughts.

Alatar.7364:

I have never addressed or responded to posts about how Anet targets people to bring them down, because when someone actually thinks/ believes that, then there is absolutely no chance to reason with such person.

I completely agree with the Scenarios and Opinions that you have stated, but truth is that this is a purely Human factor and it is never ever going to change because people are of many personalities and characters, even the most curious thoughts are to be found amongst us.
Funny is that I have seen tons of posts where OP/ people actually blamed Anet for toxic people as well. This alone is a proof that anything is possible with human mind, thus there will forever be toxic people same as people willing to help out.

Toxic people exist in any competitive game in large amounts…. However.

ArenaNets multiple failures to properly balance and support PvP content has arrived at a much smaller pool of players to be matched with. Match quality has suffered because of this smaller pool of players and this does plenty to really bring out the toxicity.

ArenaNet’s power creeping, the ESL drop… Consistently this company has caused people to discount PvP as an absolute joke. It doesn’t stand up to other titles. In addition to simple toxicity, there is a giant sense of apathy.

Weird confirmation bias, really? This from a guy who entered a conversation based on a single sentence and then decided to ignore the details from my original post. Gimme a break.

I was merely mocking your incorrect blanket statement (an opinion) and you got so triggered you tried to strawman it back to your original post. Multiple people mocked you before I even stepped in. Take off the fedora and get some fresh air please.

The beauty of conversation is I can agree with some but not ALL of the things you are saying, and poke fun at the fact that you would rather talk in circles than appreciate outside perspective that isn’t obviously biased towards warrior. Now multiple people have refuted you, and your argument alone is faulty in that you only consider a specific time frame and use it as CONFIRMATION BIAS to say that warrior is more poorly treated than other classes.

Crack a book dude, you are struggling here.
Edit: Here’s the definition for you to make things a bit easier.

Confirmation Bias: the tendency to interpret new evidence as confirmation of one’s existing beliefs or theories.

I.E. Warrior has been very strong/ too strong at different points in time.(as others have pointed out). But because of “new evidence” (arena net’s horribly planned nerfs) you are making a blanket statement that they are more poorly treated than other classes. Confirmation Bias.

You are trying to limit the scope of observable evidence, and noone with half a brain will let you. Truth hurts.

Kaga.7629:

CrashTheGrey.1492:

Guardian is about the second least used class in competitive sPvP behind warrior. (I’ve had to dig up team rosters in the past, please don’t make me do it again).

Looking up “rosters” ? You’re using “esports” to back up your arguments?

I’m talking about real spvp, in the soloQ trenches . And there i can tell you it’s 1.5 guards per team ( on average) and it used to be much more in the past before bow shaves. In fact in the past two years there were definite times when guard stacking sorely determined match winners. So really, your “esports rosters/statistics” are just paper. Reality is entirely different.

Also defensive guard /w traps & condi is the number 1 bot build of guildwars2 . I know this because I investigated the bots last season. The build is THAT low cost/reward that it can be bot-programmed.

I mean are we talking about bronze soloQ trenches? I firmly believe in ceiling level balance and yes, DH is faceroll and stupid but incredibly easy to dunk with some common sense and modest mechanical skill.

The reality, is that DH is good against baddies. It’s easy to play, puts out a lot of damage and has a lot of passive mitigation. I don’t seem them much, and when I do its a freebie. That reality also includes it being low skill ceiling, and easy to outplay.

It’s all relative. Giving credit where credit is due, DH is too strong in unskilled hands. You could make an argument that it is a favorite; a large percentage of players are victim to fighting passive, faceroll guardians, who often punch well above their weight with a couple nonsensical key presses. That is fair, I just try to see balance from what can be achieved on a class at a high percentile so that it all doesnt get mucked up and passive for such a majority of players.

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Amaimon.7823:

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CrashTheGrey.1492:

drcraig.9403:

CrashTheGrey.1492:

drcraig.9403:

CrashTheGrey.1492:

drcraig.9403:

CrashTheGrey.1492:

drcraig.9403:

CrashTheGrey.1492:

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CrashTheGrey.1492:

Amaimon.7823:

drcraig.9403:

OriOri.8724:

drcraig.9403:

ButterPeanut.9746 I expect you’re correct on both counts. At this point with almost 90 views I got exactly what I expected. No replies other than yours. Goes to show, nobody is treated as poorly as the Warrior.

You’re kidding right?

Well no, I’m not. The fact that you offered absolutely nothing to refute my claim speaks volumes. Thanks for your complete lack of substance. Please take the last word, I’ve already wasted enough time on you.

“I made an argument so vague that you can only say ‘what?’. And now that you said that I can say you can’t refute my claims. I win”

Would have been 10/10 roast if you added a tips fedora at the end.

I main warrior. ArenaNet has been massively incompetent over the years in so many areas/classes, and for long periods of time, warrior has been very strong/too strong. Ori doesn’t need to make an argument because the overwhelming inaccuracy of “nobody is treated as poorly as warrior” is hilarious.

Warrior is certainly in a horrid spot, but come on, ArenaNet treats most classes with complete ineptitude at random. I think the real hilarious bit is how awful warrior was already before that berserker nerf.

Sorry but saying you don’t need to make an argument, isn’t an argument. If you read my original post, I clearly ask for feedback from other professions. If Anet has taken your “Elite”, whatever it may be, and made it a complete joke I’d be interested in hearing it.

Lastly, until someone lists all the things I have to be happy about as a warrior main. I stand by my statement. What other professions have be nerfed to the scrap heap?

People are refuting your statement of “Goes to show, nobody is treated as poorly as the Warrior.” This is an exaggeration. There’s no argument, it’s speculation and its a joke.

I main warrior, and have very actively vocalized my issues with its current state and the changes to berserker. Context is lost on people.

Speculation? Yet you didn’t answer a simple question. What other profession has been ruined the way warrior has? If you can’t answer that, maybe you’re the joke. Take the last word, try not to waste it.

All of them have been ruined at different points in time, and since you’ve been living under a rock, and any player opinion is just that (opinion), please reference every single class sub forum. Maybe you weren’t around for ShoutBow and Hambow?

Every class in this game has been screwed by ArenaNet at different times, and it is not disproportionate to warrior. Mesmer is certainly strong now, but oh god has it always had awful PvP diversity and meta presence at time over the years. The stuff you are saying is vague and there is relativity to consider. Go grab a towel.

Sorry Crash, I knew you’d waste it. In the future before you interject with whatever useless information you have you really should read the original post. I was specifically speaking about the last 2 years since HoT release. Maybe you’re the one who should grab a towel. I’d say thanks but……

I feel sorry for you, I’m going to once again remind you that people, myself included, which I have tried to make abundantly clear multiple times, are refuting THIS statement, not your “original post”:

“nobody is treated as poorly as warrior”

Stop embarrassing yourself. I beg of you, learn how to read before posting on a forum.

Haha my statement was an extension of my original post. HEELLLLOOOOO?? Anyone home?? Weren’t you the one who said “context is lost on people”? Boy were you right. Good luck in the future I have a feeling you’re really going to need it. LOL

Can’t tell if English is a second language for you, but I can tell you are full on triggered and it’s hilarious.

Triggered?! You must be kidding, I haven’t laughed this hard in a long time. Thanks!

Would you like to 1v1 me? While we’re going with strawmans, I can go ahead and beat you, record it, and post it as evidence that anything you possibly say is incorrect in light of me being better?

Oh my goodness, I love it! You are so salty right now I can almost taste it. I surrender, there you win our 1 v 1. LOL have a nice day, if you are able. lololol

Colleseum’s audience right now:

LOL but I lost. Crash is a superior pvp’er! Reading comprehension? Not so much.

Pay me 150 dollars an hour and I’ll go through hooked on phonics with you and teach you how to bait dodges. That’s discounted.

(The Irony is I fully agree with the sentiments of ArenaNet breaking stuff and warrior being horrible, just not the notions of motive or the weird confirmation bias I keep seeing).

Kaga.7629:

CrashTheGrey.1492:

OP is right about berserker being in a bad place, but has a crazy entitlement issue with Warrior being treated with bias/poorly since HoT. ArenaNet screws the pooch regularly, across all classes.

Lies. Anet plays favorites.

Guards have needed a shave since pre-hot spec patch, and got ridiculously overpowered toys on top of the candy they had. 2 years down the line guard traps STILL aren’t split for pvp. Guards STILL have pve-damage-scaled instant activation traps ( and a f2 that will pull you into it MID DODGE. Because why pretend here ).

Or we can talk about the era of the unkillable turrets and all the skills involved in 25 turret teambuilds.

I played on the pvp preview weekend. I fully predict people to start the kittening on full revenge counter until it’s kitten right useless. and now some foofoo put a post asking for winds of disenchantment to be removed….before the skill is even in the frikking game!

While i’m looking forward to the new directions pvp will evolve , honestly i’m still on the fence about buying it or pulling out of guildwars2 forever. The cleanse nerf just before the xpac makes me feel like a beaten housewife that gets slapped around, but the husband is ALWAYS APOLOGETIC… and here’s some flowers and “gifts”.

Of course the “gifts” may turn out to be nerfed next month. There’s the rub : is the abuse by anet really worth forking 30 dollars to be treated this way ?

“Playing Favorites” is both different, and speculation. Good bye lootstick. Guardian is about the second least used class in competitive sPvP behind warrior. (I’ve had to dig up team rosters in the past, please don’t make me do it again).

Point being, thats just like, your opinion man. It’s not in Anets best interest to play favorites, mistakes happen and stuff gets blown out of proportion. Certainly not disputing that warrior is god awful for high level PvP.

TheOneWhoSighs.7513:

CrashTheGrey.1492:

Svarty.8019:

I was saying this in March (it’s 2017, for the record): https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/game/gw2/Stunlock-Needs-to-Go/first

I’ve been stunlocked by one or two players and then spiked down in moments. I’ve built to be super tanky as a consequence and usually survive, albeit barely.

The stuns in Guild Wars 2 are a problem at the moment. I don’t know whether it’s a combination of multiple enemies hitting one player it or whether it’s a single super-long stun or a spammable stun on a the class that doesn’t have cooldowns (Thief).

Multiple Enemies lining up CC on a single enemy…. as if a single player should reliably be able to shrug off multiple people at once CCing them with good timing. (Fun Fact, you can do this, if you aren’t garbage and/or you have a nice bro willing to stab you in a decent team composition.)

If a group of 4 people is smart enough to strip your stability source early and lock you down, it’s a valid tactic where a person was Outplayed/outgunned.

Comfortable in saying that when I can run into a group of 30 kittenin people and make it out on multiple classes by utilizing good skill usage, and/or good teammates, CC is not a surplus comparatively to it’s counters.

Yes, you can all “git gud”. Run builds that round out your weaknesses, or find people that let you specialize. It’s like people are allergic to thinking but certainly not complaining.

Nike warriors telling people to “git gud”.

Can I have 8 full seconds of invuln that comes in 2 pieces, that both literally come with stun break, one of them is automatic.

Bucket loads of mobility, pulsing resistance, and a 25 second cooldown block (20s when traited), condi cleanse on weapon swap (+ faster weapon swap), immobilize clear every single time I use a movement ability (Of which I literally carry around 4).

Yeah, hun.

It’s a hell of a lot easier for a nike warrior to get away 1v30 than it is for say, a Necro, that struggles to even fit swiftness on its bar let alone more than 1 stun break/condi cleanse.

It’s like the warrior class was built specifically to be extremely durable in a very selfish way, or something.

I play a lot of different characters, and tend to play with people that understand basic synergistic qualities. If you want to strawman that I main warrior, I will refute that this thread is about CC in general. Necro gets to stack 40 bleeds and nuke enormous aoe(they usually aren’t right up front eh), Warrior gets to eat a lot of CC (it’s your frontline)….

Are we suddenly talking about class specific access to stability? One word. Composition. A prepared group/individual brings the tools to deal with a variety of situations they could run into. I’ve run without individual access to stab many times before, but when I solo roam, it makes sense to take tools that work well for outnumbered fighting and shirking control effects. This can be stab, and also any number of active mitigation tools other classes have that warrior does not. It’s much easier to juke people on my mesmer than to try and bust out of a thirsty zerg on warrior. CS mass invis? Torch 4, blink, phase retreat?

Sure Necro has it rough (deathly chill more than makes up for it). That’s why he have friends that play real classes. (Just kidding, but everyone has a role to play and CC is something you can very easily counter with smart play and teamwork).

I also see berserker getting a buff because there’s a nearly 20,000 view thread of people absolutely giving Anet the business about it (My reasoning is also that someone on this team develops games and understands at a basic level that it’s wholly inferior from the evidence right in front of them).

OP is right about berserker being in a bad place, but has a crazy entitlement issue with Warrior being treated with bias/poorly since HoT. ArenaNet screws the pooch regularly, across all classes.

drcraig.9403:

CrashTheGrey.1492:

drcraig.9403:

CrashTheGrey.1492:

drcraig.9403:

CrashTheGrey.1492:

drcraig.9403:

CrashTheGrey.1492:

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Amaimon.7823:

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OriOri.8724:

drcraig.9403:

ButterPeanut.9746 I expect you’re correct on both counts. At this point with almost 90 views I got exactly what I expected. No replies other than yours. Goes to show, nobody is treated as poorly as the Warrior.

You’re kidding right?

Well no, I’m not. The fact that you offered absolutely nothing to refute my claim speaks volumes. Thanks for your complete lack of substance. Please take the last word, I’ve already wasted enough time on you.

“I made an argument so vague that you can only say ‘what?’. And now that you said that I can say you can’t refute my claims. I win”

Would have been 10/10 roast if you added a tips fedora at the end.

I main warrior. ArenaNet has been massively incompetent over the years in so many areas/classes, and for long periods of time, warrior has been very strong/too strong. Ori doesn’t need to make an argument because the overwhelming inaccuracy of “nobody is treated as poorly as warrior” is hilarious.

Warrior is certainly in a horrid spot, but come on, ArenaNet treats most classes with complete ineptitude at random. I think the real hilarious bit is how awful warrior was already before that berserker nerf.

Sorry but saying you don’t need to make an argument, isn’t an argument. If you read my original post, I clearly ask for feedback from other professions. If Anet has taken your “Elite”, whatever it may be, and made it a complete joke I’d be interested in hearing it.

Lastly, until someone lists all the things I have to be happy about as a warrior main. I stand by my statement. What other professions have be nerfed to the scrap heap?

People are refuting your statement of “Goes to show, nobody is treated as poorly as the Warrior.” This is an exaggeration. There’s no argument, it’s speculation and its a joke.

I main warrior, and have very actively vocalized my issues with its current state and the changes to berserker. Context is lost on people.

Speculation? Yet you didn’t answer a simple question. What other profession has been ruined the way warrior has? If you can’t answer that, maybe you’re the joke. Take the last word, try not to waste it.

All of them have been ruined at different points in time, and since you’ve been living under a rock, and any player opinion is just that (opinion), please reference every single class sub forum. Maybe you weren’t around for ShoutBow and Hambow?

Every class in this game has been screwed by ArenaNet at different times, and it is not disproportionate to warrior. Mesmer is certainly strong now, but oh god has it always had awful PvP diversity and meta presence at time over the years. The stuff you are saying is vague and there is relativity to consider. Go grab a towel.

Sorry Crash, I knew you’d waste it. In the future before you interject with whatever useless information you have you really should read the original post. I was specifically speaking about the last 2 years since HoT release. Maybe you’re the one who should grab a towel. I’d say thanks but……

I feel sorry for you, I’m going to once again remind you that people, myself included, which I have tried to make abundantly clear multiple times, are refuting THIS statement, not your “original post”:

“nobody is treated as poorly as warrior”

Stop embarrassing yourself. I beg of you, learn how to read before posting on a forum.

Haha my statement was an extension of my original post. HEELLLLOOOOO?? Anyone home?? Weren’t you the one who said “context is lost on people”? Boy were you right. Good luck in the future I have a feeling you’re really going to need it. LOL

Can’t tell if English is a second language for you, but I can tell you are full on triggered and it’s hilarious.

Triggered?! You must be kidding, I haven’t laughed this hard in a long time. Thanks!

Would you like to 1v1 me? While we’re going with strawmans, I can go ahead and beat you, record it, and post it as evidence that anything you possibly say is incorrect in light of me being better?

drcraig.9403:

CrashTheGrey.1492:

drcraig.9403:

CrashTheGrey.1492:

drcraig.9403:

CrashTheGrey.1492:

drcraig.9403:

CrashTheGrey.1492:

Amaimon.7823:

drcraig.9403:

OriOri.8724:

drcraig.9403:

ButterPeanut.9746 I expect you’re correct on both counts. At this point with almost 90 views I got exactly what I expected. No replies other than yours. Goes to show, nobody is treated as poorly as the Warrior.

You’re kidding right?

Well no, I’m not. The fact that you offered absolutely nothing to refute my claim speaks volumes. Thanks for your complete lack of substance. Please take the last word, I’ve already wasted enough time on you.

“I made an argument so vague that you can only say ‘what?’. And now that you said that I can say you can’t refute my claims. I win”

Would have been 10/10 roast if you added a tips fedora at the end.

I main warrior. ArenaNet has been massively incompetent over the years in so many areas/classes, and for long periods of time, warrior has been very strong/too strong. Ori doesn’t need to make an argument because the overwhelming inaccuracy of “nobody is treated as poorly as warrior” is hilarious.

Warrior is certainly in a horrid spot, but come on, ArenaNet treats most classes with complete ineptitude at random. I think the real hilarious bit is how awful warrior was already before that berserker nerf.

Sorry but saying you don’t need to make an argument, isn’t an argument. If you read my original post, I clearly ask for feedback from other professions. If Anet has taken your “Elite”, whatever it may be, and made it a complete joke I’d be interested in hearing it.

Lastly, until someone lists all the things I have to be happy about as a warrior main. I stand by my statement. What other professions have be nerfed to the scrap heap?

People are refuting your statement of “Goes to show, nobody is treated as poorly as the Warrior.” This is an exaggeration. There’s no argument, it’s speculation and its a joke.

I main warrior, and have very actively vocalized my issues with its current state and the changes to berserker. Context is lost on people.

Speculation? Yet you didn’t answer a simple question. What other profession has been ruined the way warrior has? If you can’t answer that, maybe you’re the joke. Take the last word, try not to waste it.

All of them have been ruined at different points in time, and since you’ve been living under a rock, and any player opinion is just that (opinion), please reference every single class sub forum. Maybe you weren’t around for ShoutBow and Hambow?

Every class in this game has been screwed by ArenaNet at different times, and it is not disproportionate to warrior. Mesmer is certainly strong now, but oh god has it always had awful PvP diversity and meta presence at time over the years. The stuff you are saying is vague and there is relativity to consider. Go grab a towel.

Sorry Crash, I knew you’d waste it. In the future before you interject with whatever useless information you have you really should read the original post. I was specifically speaking about the last 2 years since HoT release. Maybe you’re the one who should grab a towel. I’d say thanks but……

I feel sorry for you, I’m going to once again remind you that people, myself included, which I have tried to make abundantly clear multiple times, are refuting THIS statement, not your “original post”:

“nobody is treated as poorly as warrior”

Stop embarrassing yourself. I beg of you, learn how to read before posting on a forum.

Haha my statement was an extension of my original post. HEELLLLOOOOO?? Anyone home?? Weren’t you the one who said “context is lost on people”? Boy were you right. Good luck in the future I have a feeling you’re really going to need it. LOL

Can’t tell if English is a second language for you, but I can tell you are full on triggered and it’s hilarious.

Look up the definition of a strawman argument. You’re talking in circles and bringing in stuff people don’t care about.

drcraig.9403:

CrashTheGrey.1492:

drcraig.9403:

CrashTheGrey.1492:

drcraig.9403:

CrashTheGrey.1492:

Amaimon.7823:

drcraig.9403:

OriOri.8724:

drcraig.9403:

ButterPeanut.9746 I expect you’re correct on both counts. At this point with almost 90 views I got exactly what I expected. No replies other than yours. Goes to show, nobody is treated as poorly as the Warrior.

You’re kidding right?

Well no, I’m not. The fact that you offered absolutely nothing to refute my claim speaks volumes. Thanks for your complete lack of substance. Please take the last word, I’ve already wasted enough time on you.

“I made an argument so vague that you can only say ‘what?’. And now that you said that I can say you can’t refute my claims. I win”

Would have been 10/10 roast if you added a tips fedora at the end.

I main warrior. ArenaNet has been massively incompetent over the years in so many areas/classes, and for long periods of time, warrior has been very strong/too strong. Ori doesn’t need to make an argument because the overwhelming inaccuracy of “nobody is treated as poorly as warrior” is hilarious.

Warrior is certainly in a horrid spot, but come on, ArenaNet treats most classes with complete ineptitude at random. I think the real hilarious bit is how awful warrior was already before that berserker nerf.

Sorry but saying you don’t need to make an argument, isn’t an argument. If you read my original post, I clearly ask for feedback from other professions. If Anet has taken your “Elite”, whatever it may be, and made it a complete joke I’d be interested in hearing it.

Lastly, until someone lists all the things I have to be happy about as a warrior main. I stand by my statement. What other professions have be nerfed to the scrap heap?

People are refuting your statement of “Goes to show, nobody is treated as poorly as the Warrior.” This is an exaggeration. There’s no argument, it’s speculation and its a joke.

I main warrior, and have very actively vocalized my issues with its current state and the changes to berserker. Context is lost on people.

Speculation? Yet you didn’t answer a simple question. What other profession has been ruined the way warrior has? If you can’t answer that, maybe you’re the joke. Take the last word, try not to waste it.

All of them have been ruined at different points in time, and since you’ve been living under a rock, and any player opinion is just that (opinion), please reference every single class sub forum. Maybe you weren’t around for ShoutBow and Hambow?

Every class in this game has been screwed by ArenaNet at different times, and it is not disproportionate to warrior. Mesmer is certainly strong now, but oh god has it always had awful PvP diversity and meta presence at time over the years. The stuff you are saying is vague and there is relativity to consider. Go grab a towel.

Sorry Crash, I knew you’d waste it. In the future before you interject with whatever useless information you have you really should read the original post. I was specifically speaking about the last 2 years since HoT release. Maybe you’re the one who should grab a towel. I’d say thanks but……

I feel sorry for you, I’m going to once again remind you that people, myself included, which I have tried to make abundantly clear multiple times, are refuting THIS statement, not your “original post”:

“nobody is treated as poorly as warrior”

Stop embarrassing yourself. I beg of you, learn how to read before posting on a forum.

drcraig.9403:

CrashTheGrey.1492:

drcraig.9403:

CrashTheGrey.1492:

Amaimon.7823:

drcraig.9403:

OriOri.8724:

drcraig.9403:

ButterPeanut.9746 I expect you’re correct on both counts. At this point with almost 90 views I got exactly what I expected. No replies other than yours. Goes to show, nobody is treated as poorly as the Warrior.

You’re kidding right?

Well no, I’m not. The fact that you offered absolutely nothing to refute my claim speaks volumes. Thanks for your complete lack of substance. Please take the last word, I’ve already wasted enough time on you.

“I made an argument so vague that you can only say ‘what?’. And now that you said that I can say you can’t refute my claims. I win”

Would have been 10/10 roast if you added a tips fedora at the end.

I main warrior. ArenaNet has been massively incompetent over the years in so many areas/classes, and for long periods of time, warrior has been very strong/too strong. Ori doesn’t need to make an argument because the overwhelming inaccuracy of “nobody is treated as poorly as warrior” is hilarious.

Warrior is certainly in a horrid spot, but come on, ArenaNet treats most classes with complete ineptitude at random. I think the real hilarious bit is how awful warrior was already before that berserker nerf.

Sorry but saying you don’t need to make an argument, isn’t an argument. If you read my original post, I clearly ask for feedback from other professions. If Anet has taken your “Elite”, whatever it may be, and made it a complete joke I’d be interested in hearing it.

Lastly, until someone lists all the things I have to be happy about as a warrior main. I stand by my statement. What other professions have be nerfed to the scrap heap?

People are refuting your statement of “Goes to show, nobody is treated as poorly as the Warrior.” This is an exaggeration. There’s no argument, it’s speculation and its a joke.

I main warrior, and have very actively vocalized my issues with its current state and the changes to berserker. Context is lost on people.

Speculation? Yet you didn’t answer a simple question. What other profession has been ruined the way warrior has? If you can’t answer that, maybe you’re the joke. Take the last word, try not to waste it.

All of them have been ruined at different points in time, and since you’ve been living under a rock, and any player opinion is just that (opinion), please reference every single class sub forum. Maybe you weren’t around for ShoutBow and Hambow?

Every class in this game has been screwed by ArenaNet at different times, and it is not disproportionate to warrior. Mesmer is certainly strong now, but oh god has it always had awful PvP diversity and meta presence at time over the years. The stuff you are saying is vague and there is relativity to consider. Go grab a towel.

drcraig.9403:

CrashTheGrey.1492:

Amaimon.7823:

drcraig.9403:

OriOri.8724:

drcraig.9403:

ButterPeanut.9746 I expect you’re correct on both counts. At this point with almost 90 views I got exactly what I expected. No replies other than yours. Goes to show, nobody is treated as poorly as the Warrior.

You’re kidding right?

Well no, I’m not. The fact that you offered absolutely nothing to refute my claim speaks volumes. Thanks for your complete lack of substance. Please take the last word, I’ve already wasted enough time on you.

“I made an argument so vague that you can only say ‘what?’. And now that you said that I can say you can’t refute my claims. I win”

Would have been 10/10 roast if you added a tips fedora at the end.

I main warrior. ArenaNet has been massively incompetent over the years in so many areas/classes, and for long periods of time, warrior has been very strong/too strong. Ori doesn’t need to make an argument because the overwhelming inaccuracy of “nobody is treated as poorly as warrior” is hilarious.

Warrior is certainly in a horrid spot, but come on, ArenaNet treats most classes with complete ineptitude at random. I think the real hilarious bit is how awful warrior was already before that berserker nerf.

Sorry but saying you don’t need to make an argument, isn’t an argument. If you read my original post, I clearly ask for feedback from other professions. If Anet has taken your “Elite”, whatever it may be, and made it a complete joke I’d be interested in hearing it.

Lastly, until someone lists all the things I have to be happy about as a warrior main. I stand by my statement. What other professions have be nerfed to the scrap heap?

People are refuting your statement of “Goes to show, nobody is treated as poorly as the Warrior.” This is an exaggeration. There’s no argument, it’s speculation and its a joke.

I main warrior, and have very actively vocalized my issues with its current state and the changes to berserker. Context is lost on people.

Amaimon.7823:

CrashTheGrey.1492:

Amaimon.7823:

drcraig.9403:

OriOri.8724:

drcraig.9403:

ButterPeanut.9746 I expect you’re correct on both counts. At this point with almost 90 views I got exactly what I expected. No replies other than yours. Goes to show, nobody is treated as poorly as the Warrior.

You’re kidding right?

Well no, I’m not. The fact that you offered absolutely nothing to refute my claim speaks volumes. Thanks for your complete lack of substance. Please take the last word, I’ve already wasted enough time on you.

“I made an argument so vague that you can only say ‘what?’. And now that you said that I can say you can’t refute my claims. I win”

Would have been 10/10 roast if you added a tips fedora at the end.

I main warrior. ArenaNet has been massively incompetent over the years in so many areas/classes, and for long periods of time, warrior has been very strong/too strong. Ori doesn’t need to make an argument because the overwhelming inaccuracy of “nobody is treated as poorly as warrior” is hilarious.

Warrior is certainly in a horrid spot, but come on, ArenaNet treats most classes with complete ineptitude at random. I think the real hilarious bit is how awful warrior was already before that berserker nerf.

We already gave you an argument on why the warrior is so weak, if we can’t land our CC’s, we’re dead. We’re not in a tough fight, we’re dead.
If we come across a mesmer and they make the first move, we’re dead.
If we come across a ranger, we’re dead.
If we come across a thief and lady luck doesn’t plant him right where our hammer lands, we’re dead.
If we come across a revenant, 95% of all our attacks won’t even hit.
If we come across a guardian, they have a stability upkeep of 100%, occassionally with blocks, we dead.
If we come across another warrior, it’s becomes a dodge/block/stun race to see who’s faster at mashing their buttons.

But please, do tell me how the warrior is overpowered? Sure, if you get hit by our stun, we can finish you off. But be honest, how often is that for a competent player?

Buddy, you need to slow down and read carefully. I am in agreement that warrior is horrible right now for high level PvP. I did not say warrior was too strong now. In the past, it certainly has been.

Amaimon.7823:

drcraig.9403:

OriOri.8724:

drcraig.9403:

ButterPeanut.9746 I expect you’re correct on both counts. At this point with almost 90 views I got exactly what I expected. No replies other than yours. Goes to show, nobody is treated as poorly as the Warrior.

You’re kidding right?

Well no, I’m not. The fact that you offered absolutely nothing to refute my claim speaks volumes. Thanks for your complete lack of substance. Please take the last word, I’ve already wasted enough time on you.

“I made an argument so vague that you can only say ‘what?’. And now that you said that I can say you can’t refute my claims. I win”

Would have been 10/10 roast if you added a tips fedora at the end.

I main warrior. ArenaNet has been massively incompetent over the years in so many areas/classes, and for long periods of time, warrior has been very strong/too strong. Ori doesn’t need to make an argument because the overwhelming inaccuracy of “nobody is treated as poorly as warrior” is hilarious.

Warrior is certainly in a horrid spot, but come on, ArenaNet treats most classes with complete ineptitude at random. I think the real hilarious bit is how awful warrior was already before that berserker nerf.

Svarty.8019:

I was saying this in March (it’s 2017, for the record): https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/game/gw2/Stunlock-Needs-to-Go/first

I’ve been stunlocked by one or two players and then spiked down in moments. I’ve built to be super tanky as a consequence and usually survive, albeit barely.

The stuns in Guild Wars 2 are a problem at the moment. I don’t know whether it’s a combination of multiple enemies hitting one player it or whether it’s a single super-long stun or a spammable stun on a the class that doesn’t have cooldowns (Thief).

Multiple Enemies lining up CC on a single enemy…. as if a single player should reliably be able to shrug off multiple people at once CCing them with good timing. (Fun Fact, you can do this, if you aren’t garbage and/or you have a nice bro willing to stab you in a decent team composition.)

If a group of 4 people is smart enough to strip your stability source early and lock you down, it’s a valid tactic where a person was Outplayed/outgunned.

Comfortable in saying that when I can run into a group of 30 kittenin people and make it out on multiple classes by utilizing good skill usage, and/or good teammates, CC is not a surplus comparatively to it’s counters.

Yes, you can all “git gud”. Run builds that round out your weaknesses, or find people that let you specialize. It’s like people are allergic to thinking but certainly not complaining.

The Berserker changes were wholly incompetent and lazy. I hope the developer hired for these gets canned.

With all that time they saved re skinning animations for PoF, you would think a Triple a title would take a moment to approach balance without simply gutting builds. HoT Powercreep, losing ESL, bunch of the “pro scene” mocking them, bugs and glitches that last for YEARS without attention, changes reinforcing passive/braindead gameplay….

This is another example of completely inept change. They had all the time in the world to figure out Tradeoffs, but instead they gutted a spec a month before an expansion.

ArenaNet is too lazy to comment on last stand’s bug/typo. They were too lazy to balance power zerker so they just said “eh it’ll be condi only, kitten build diversity pay me.”

My hope is that they own up and make healthy changes to berserker. But be it lack of resources or incompetence, I’m not holding my breath.

The way they screw up in so many areas, especially communication, has put my path of fire purchase on hold. It’s honestly ridiculous that a triple a title like this makes so many mistakes.

Choppy.4183:

Search.6842:

Does Restorative Strength work with the passive heal from Heal Signet?

Nope, just the active.

It’s fairly underwhelming. The stab option is also a bit dumb…. Really peak performance is the only option if you want to use physical skills (and I think its great to work them in now).

I’m looking to try out kick instead of bulls charge, maybe even get kitteny and drop EP and use them both. I imagine I will get a ton of salt for doing that…..

I run Core with Marauder/Dura. I run this as sort of a “I’m outnumbered and maybe one of these people isn’t completely hopeless” or " 25 bloodlust thief wants to +1 netflix and chill without the netflix."

It takes a nice bit out of cheesy stealth bursts when your trying to stomp 2 other people, has some team synergy, and works with might.

That being said I like going full yolo too. It can work very well, but it starts to get very dicey in outnumbered fights.

Hello,

The last stand (grand master) trait reads that it gives both stance duration and Cooldown Reduction

It does not grant cooldown reduction. It doesn’t show up when you hover over the stances, it doesn’t change the cooldown time when the stances are activated.

It has been this way since August 8th. Multiple threads have popped up, multiple bug reports have been submitted, and there is still no answer.

Could someone from staff please confirm if this is a typo, if it is broken, or any other information as to why this Trait simply does not work given its description?

Thanks for your time!

As if there aren’t enough cowardly people shirking fights with very little loss to them currently.

Go play eve. This is a horrible idea and would absolutely decimate WvW.

Krysard.1364:

I think you all are missing the point Xaylin made. Fast hands being overpowered and mandatory for any viable warrior build doesnt mean it should be baseline as it doesnt cripple your core mechanics in any way as other situations exposed (mesmer). If fast hands was made baseline, you might aswell make cleansing ire baseline as you “will notice a heavy difference playing at gold tier or higher with or without it”.
I hate trait lines being mandatory, and I would like to be able to drop def/disc too, but imo theres no reasonable reason behind making FH base besides Anet being lazy and balancing warrior the cheap way.

Here’s something Xaylin is saying (uninformed):
“Looking at Warrior, on one hand, I agree that Fast-Hands is a very powerful trait which most builds can benefit from – especially in a PvP scenario where flexibility is key. On the other hand, it is far from being mandatory for utilizing, for example, Burst skills. It just obviously makes them more accessible due to not-shared cooldowns. Most rotations (and I’m not talking smashing F1 as often as possible or raid benchmarks) can be performed without Fast-Hands even though admittedly sometimes at a slower pace.
People like to argue that this makes certain rotations unviable but that’s not true. They’re just less efficient (so maybe not meta) – not not effective at all. If this actually was the case one should discuss a specific rotation, not making Fast-Hands baseline”

Since we’re talking about PvP, and we’re discussing it on a class that is completely missing from high level play because even with Fast hands on every single comp build it simply isn’t good enough……

Not having fast hands 100% gimps you in competitive. Good players understand this. It is not a case of being “less efficient”. It has been completely entrenched for years. Warrior is garbage tier in PvP, and this trait is probably the only thing that gives you the situational versatility to even attempt to climb.

It is MANDATORY.

Rotation? Are we talking about Rotations on warrior and PvP in the same sentence? Going to go ahead and discount this entire thing as PvE hero rambling despite the assurances otherwise. Warrior skills have huge telegraphs. Against intelligent players, it is a constant set of mind games and dodge baiting, and when you don’t have fast hands your options for actually applying damage are so incredibly predictable.

To be clear, I am not 100% on the wagon for baseline fast hands, but I need to point out the completely incorrect assessment of warriors reliance on it.

CitizenKing.4912:

Don’t ever take an Asura player’s advice on aesthetics.

Truer words have never been spoken. If you play asura you probably wear sweatpants and crocs.

Giving up berserker power basically makes me take berserker amulet to make up for lost damage. Might makes right can work, but dependent on your playstyle/elo it can be hard to be completely effective.

That being said, I won the 3 matches I played last night by way of nuking people. To me, berserkers power usually wins out. Playing full glass is super manly and you’ll hard carry if you do it right. (Up to a point, where people are smart enough to kite/dodge you more and play calmly).

It can work, but to me its much better in wvw with longer invulns and more room to stack sustain. I think sustainish builds on warrior right now are simply not competitive next to other bunkers. Go glass and nuke everyone.

ArenaNet,

Last stand clearly states that stances gain reduced recharge. They do NOT when last stand is taken.

This has been like this for weeks and has been addressed repeatedly on the forums and bug reports have been sent in game.

Can we get a simple explanation that the text is wrong, or that something else is going on? Can we know if this is not supposed to reduce recharge? Is this by accident? You have something clearly stating it does something which it does not.

If you constantly fall victim to hard CC, here’s some reasons.

-You are bad at the game.
-You are built incorrectly to handle CC. (I sure would love to only take offensive options but I need to respect that stability is strong against skilled/smart opponents and outnumbered fights).
-Your teams composition or mechanics are not conducive to providing reliable stability.

There needs to be more CC than stunbreaks in the game. Otherwise, CC would have no place. Kiting/mobility would be the only viable strategy.

Sure, there is powercreep in this game. There is too much of everything, often in fairly even amounts. And if you aren’t smart enough to use your stability and stunbreaks wisely, you deserve to get obliterated.

Some real advice is to learn tells and respect the CC your opponents have. Build around outplaying people, not min-maxing defense and offense.

Trajan.4953:

“Roaming” is not needed or wanted in WvW, and “Roamers” won’t accept that.

Scouting is needed, Camp flipping and Yak guarding is needed.

Having a cheese gank build to crap on people running back to a fight and doing a video with bad dubstep is not needed.

Someone get this poor guy a glass of water, sodium levels are critical.

Scouting, camp flipping, and sometimes yak guarding is part of my “roaming”. It works out that I can both build for smaller scale combat and mobility simultaneously. I’m sure plenty other self identifying “roamers” are here to have fun, and are doing it a lot better than the mindless zergling who is too busy getting upset about the fact that they exist.

And to be honest, people running just straight up gank builds can be effective at decreasing reinforcements, and obviously hurting morale of the neckbeards who can’t hold their own 1v1. (And if your build only works specifically for zerging, that’s the very definition of cheese. It’s only enabled through hiding in numbers.)

Zerging is fun, roaming is fun, and having these elements interact with eachother makes WvW more dangerous and appealing for both sides. The game starts to feel just a bit less casual with these interactions.

ArenaNet,

Please clarify on this topic that has been brought up repeatedly. It would be greatly appreciated if you communicated with us.

Thanks!

When I play daredevil in WvW, I notice I can live through so many things whilst making bad decisions, spamming, and abusing mobility. I find myself saying “man, this is boring and gimmicky.” Daredevil is….. lame. It’s just lame. It’s effective, and it’s badly designed and does not feel rewarding. Thief felt great when there was more risk. Anyone with decent mechanical speed can abuse this class for roaming. And then, you have condi thief for those without mechanical speed.

I don’t know that I can call it completely OP, but I feel confident in saying that most daredevil builds are overtuned right now for WvW Roaming. And it speaks in the volume of players using the class.

The Scenario’s listed here assume too many variables. It’s nonsense, and a statement made in a vacuum where rotations and good decision making don’t exist on part of the “victim” team.

Xaylin.1860:

Jzaku.9765:

We want fast hands because it’s integral to warrior gameplay, which is the whole reason traits were made baseline in the first place. The most egregious example would be Illusionary Persona from mesmer, a grandmaster tier trait, being made baseline because it was so core to the mesmer gameplay to be able to panic shatter without any clones. As long as fast hands exists in discipline every warrior build practically mandates the discipline tree, as evidenced by i dunno, the last 5 years of warrior pvp builds.

While being a Mesmer – so people are likely to be triggered by my opinion – I’d like to point a pretty significant difference here: The core mechanic of Mesmers was invalidated completely when not having Illusions available. This was and still is the case very very frequently especially in large scale fights or in PvP/WvW where Illusions’ health remains low and Mesmers still have to incorporate some traits and/or skills to maintain a sufficient Illusion generation in many scenarios. Making IP baseline was a bandaid for that. We are talking about baseline viability and effecitiveness of a class mechanic.

Looking at Warrior, on one hand, I agree that Fast-Hands is a very powerful trait which most builds can benefit from – especially in a PvP scenario where flexibility is key. On the other hand, it is far from being mandatory for utilizing, for example, Burst skills. It just obviously makes them more accessible due to not-shared cooldowns. Most rotations (and I’m not talking smashing F1 as often as possible or raid benchmarks) can be performed without Fast-Hands even though admittedly sometimes at a slower pace.

People like to argue that this makes certain rotations unviable but that’s not true. They’re just less efficient (so maybe not meta) – not not effective at all. If this actually was the case one should discuss a specific rotation, not making Fast-Hands baseline. That’s also why I personally don’t share the opinion that Warriors were build around Fast-Hands. It is an ability which in this form is unique to Warriors but certainly is not an integral part to playing the class. I believe we would be less likely arguing this if Burst skills had shared cooldowns or Adrenal gain was slower but the skills themselves were more meaningful. The discussion about Fast-Hands is not about class and skill/mechanic viability or effectiveness but efficiency – and maybe a bit about convience.

To expand on that: Spellbreaker is less dependend on Fast-Hands than core Warrior or Berserker due to Full Counter not varying based on your weapon. Smart move by ANet and probably should have been done smiliarly for Berserker.

But I guess many Warrior mains don’t like SB. I’m for my part am looking forward to it.

I mained mesmer before switching to warrior. I urge you to play without fast hands at lets say gold or higher, then switch to fast hands. Warrior is already the least used class in competitive. The difference this trait makes is NOT convenience. It is irreplaceable on a class that already struggles to apply damage against competent opponents. Huge telegraphs, easy dodges. Having access to the right thing at the right time is necessary when you can get kited and dodged as hard as you do against good opponents.

TheBravery.9615:

I KNEW your name sounded familiar, you used to play space cowboy online

good times

Holy cow, always cool to see people from way back then. I’ll have to pm you sometime and see if we played on hovernmus together

CitizenKing.4912:

Man, I’ve been wrecking with your build. Its really good! Question, why do you take Peak Performance when you don’t have any physical abilities on your bar?

I should make a note there, I’m running bulls charge a lot here and it’s becoming one of my favorites. I do switch peak out for the might on heal if I’m running something else. And yes, I’ve recently had some hilarious clips jumping down on people from gliding and other things. Quite the opener. ( I do stupid stuff sometimes like leaving dogged march on after running longbow, switching back to shield. I’m even less careful about switching this one back if I decide to run a stab source utility with cleansing ire).

http://gw2skills.net/editor/?vJAQNAR3ejMdQjH2FCWhAnIGICK9Lm+twCgIonxT4FWBA-TVSBQBA4gAshHAwFOCAXR5XCV/xMKB33+D4R3gGuAABAOAc+5nf+5nHpAiYMA-w

I do make the occasional change, but I’m starting to like last stand over cleansing ire. The clips in here are a mix of last stand and cleansing ire.

Some clips from the week, I hope you enjoy!

https://youtu.be/iOW3TKHg5RU

(Pumpin these out before spellbreaker drops).

Double Focus (like double dagger) Monk. Hand to Hand combat.

I personally would run that smoky effect pimp cup chalice thing and Lil Jon everyone so hard.

I would recommend you spam some rounds as every single class and learn the In’s and Out’s. Try out meta/relevant builds and understand how the classes work and what they have access to. It gives you a much better platform to interpret situations and calmly react to the insane volume of “stuff” that happens in your average team fight or even smaller interactions.

Always be thinking “where should I be?” Especially until you’re comfortable carrying and winning outnumbered fights ( and only taking them where it truly gives your team an advantage or you can sustain until help comes)…

Fight Smart, use advantages when you have them. As a thief for example, you are a +1. You’re goal is to constantly create stacked fights in your teams favor, and to end them as quick as possible and move on. It can be the hardest position to learn.

Few things I find funnier than endure paining traps, signet of might + cc/evis train against garbo, face rolling, DH scrubs. Lot of times they don’t have a chance to renewed focus and cheese away for a moment.

To be fair, I could see for a lot of classes this being an “un-fun” fight, if not unfair per se. DH can do some amazing things with zero skilled input involved.

(Anets got great design implementations for PvP if you didn’t know)

Mosharn.8357:

Longbow is good for both power and condi. Rifle is fine as well. We dont need more power creep. I would rather have better changes to other stuff and spellbreaker than just asking for buffs on weapons that dont need it.

Thats just my opinion dont get tiggered.

That opinion is wrong and I’m triggered.

But really, Rifle is garbage. It’s a complete gimmick weapon, its clunky, and it has no place in any serious PvP setting.

On Mesmer, I can feel the trade off’s between sword/scepter. I can feel the tradeoff’s in torch and shield. It feels like this across most classes, even if I have favorite weapons.

Greatsword, Axe/Shield. That’s all there is for power. Longbow to goof around, maybe mace mainhand situationally….. Berserker died, and core burst skills on any other weapons are too clunky and bad to have a place. Sword Burst? HAH. Killshot? “look at that kitten lining up over there, time to reflect/dodge”. Offhands are a complete and total kittening joke. Shield reigns supreme especially with might makes right and even less CC with no headbutt.

I don’t think there’s an issue of immediate power creep if these weapons were buffed/fixed, I think there’s a current issue of 0 weapon options for serious PvP.