Guild Wars 2

Donari.5237:

My main concern, and I understand it may be moot if the datamining has errors in it, is that it seems you have to unlock in order around the circle. So saying “you need X for skills and traits and Y for items so just get enough for X” doesn’t take into account that you must spend the item points along the way.

I’ve been spending an hour or two a day gathering hero points on the necromancer I want to make a Reaper. She has 40 points left to gather out of the 189, plus whatever’s in DT and SW. With 40 more she’ll have 180 banked hero points, as she has full core unlocks. That doesn’t seem like enough to match the datamined requirements.

So I hope there are errors and/or the devs have other ways for us to gather hero points. Right now I’m at:

Thief — 214 HP (he has world completion including WvW)
Mesmer for Fractals — 104 HP
Mesmer for LS — 107 HP
Mesmer for JP’s — 103 HP
Necromancer for Fashion — 101 HP
Necromancer for Reaper — 140 HP
Necromancer for Asura PS — 101 HP
Warrior for RP — 100 HP
Warrior for Male Sylvari Cultural — 103 HP
Guardian for DPS — 104 HP
Guardian for Support — 204 HP (has world completion including WvW)
Engineer to have an 80 of each prof — 100 HP
Ranger to have an 80 of each prof — 101 HP
Elementalist to have an 80 of each prof — 100 HP
and Elementalist to be an RP shill — doesn’t count yet, he’s only 60.

That’s going to be a lot of hours trotting around the maps (and having to go into WvW to get past 180 it seems) to make them all able to use Elite specs if I need to get to 200 each.

why…. do… you have… the same… classes….. multiple… times ugh. How is that fun? 3 necromancers for no reason? they could all be 1. My brain hurts just trying to understand the logic behind this

AngelExtreme.4872:

Hello guys good day!, im currently selling a spot in Season 2 living story achievements to players who wants their achievements to be done, so far i have helped people with a certain price with it, so here comes a guy who ask for the price, after the guy ask for it he told me that he is going to report me because i was abusing “LFG tool” and then he said i should help legit players who ask help, when it clearly states that in LFG i am “Selling a spot for living story achievements” he then said he would report me and tell the whole community what i am and what do i look like because i should be helping players, i mean i dont mind helping people if i wasnt “selling the spot” he demanded me to do so, and so i told him who are you to demand from other players to help you? everyone bought the game and we are all equally treated by anet to as we so as long as we abide the rules and policy of the game and it also clearly states that Our gm gail posted that.

Our policy: Players may use the LFG Tool only for the formation of a group.
Players may use the tool to sell a spot in a group, but they may not use it to sell or trade items or for any other unintended purposes. Doing so will result in an account infraction.
You can help us reduce the spam and refocus the tool by reporting individuals who are misusing the LFG Tool. Simply click on the name of that player in your chat window, right click, choose “Report,” and then choose “LFG System Abuse.” With your help we’ll be able to keep the LFG Tool clear for your use in forming groups.

so guys help me enlighten myself or that guy if what im doing is wrong or not, which clearly states above that statement that i am not violating any policy.

any comments or so? ill be posting the screenshots soon.

in all honesty, it should be illegal. theres no way in game to guarantee that once you make him pay you, youll still do it for him. theres no escrow service that releases funds for tasks completed, so the potential for scams is pretty high, hence, it should be illegal.

I’d want a 2v2 arena. Make it a match where games can have 20 people in it, and it rotates out people once a team loses.

so a lobby of 10/20 people, like a mini round robin tourny. Would be alot of fun, and you’d see alot of crazy builds/combos being tried

overstacking ruined t2. Basically killed roaming too

you guys dont understand the point hes making, and i kind of agree. in WvW swiftness is required, if you dont have swiftness you better just hide in a blob because youre dead otherwise. Basically EVERYONE who roams or havocs etc will have perma swiftness. So if everyone is basically required to have it in order to fight in WvW, whats the purpose of it anymore?

By having swiftness baseline, it opens up more build variety/weapon variety.

Sara Flame of Kryta.2170:

I play as a DD else because the play style fits me really well. but as the game is now if u join a team for dungeons they want only zerker.
Here is the thing today every one should run a specific build so you don’t get kicked or bullied when joining a team. its only the meta that is accepted. right now that say that a-net should remove serene stuff from the game cause you are just not accepted as a player if u run the “wrong” set.
i think a net need to fix this, cause the game was not build to stacking in a corner to kill a boss in 5 sec.
Kicking and yelling at ppl just because they don’t use the right weapon or sigils as i was bullied for. (just to try experimenting) This shouldn’t be okej.

I really like to play my DD byt today i risk getting a kik just for showing my character in a team.

I just wonder would it help if we removed stats from weapons and only use them on armor so we can play with something else than the meta staff, or if its wand focus now? Cause as the game is today i been called loots of evil words just for playing daggers and then kicked without getting a chance to show ppl that i can play. and often better than many ppl that complains some times.

We never get a chance and that need to change.

this is stupid… why? youre basically saying that people should have to go through a dungeon slower just because you enjoy playing the game a different way?

that’s fine and all…. but its pretty obvious why you are getting people telling you to change armors. If you want to play a game your own way (the slower way) then obviously people wont agree with it. Just like you dont agree with them. Your complaining is pointless…. let them play how they want

UmbraNoctis.1907:

Relying on a boon against a class that can strip boons, doesn’t seem very usefull …
And a mesmer can trait for lots of reflection, which pretty much hardcounters longbow.

if they trait for lots of reflection, then they arent traiting for alot of other things too… Plus, if they trait for reflection they aren’t going to be going stealth a ton. So whats the problem now? they reflect too much? Mesmers have always hard countered melee users. I mained a warrior for over a thousand hours in wvw roaming and pvp.

I also roam as a mesmer and have been hard countered by a warrior and a ranger.

haha i’ve read it all now. Condition users being able to stack 2 defensive stats and STILL do a ton of cond damage has been broken ever since cond started getting buffs. So no __it? someone FINALLY counters your build? Conditions have been easy mode in pvp and wvw roaming forever. God forbid your ultra tank dmg condition build has to finally switch some things up

You guys are pretty ridiculous. Mesmers do not have “ridiculous” cc. the only way they can get that is if they run staff and trait for immob on stun, which means less burst damage.

Also fun fact, did you know a ranger with stability and longbow can decimate a mesmer? Yes mesmers can trait to heal better and remove conditions, but once they do that they lose the ability to easily add more illusions and burst damage. So the idea of one class “doing it all” is pretty silly, unless you mean ele? People are just not used to having to use stability versus a mesmer now and refuse to adapt.

is it just me, or does ANET seem to make the balance worse every single patch?

Came back to this game and now conditions are still wtfstrong and defensive… everyone does more burst damage? Some defensive/heal builds got nerfed? I thought you guys were adding in a “resistance” buff that would be a decent counter to conditions since a full cond clear every 40+ seconds isnt a counter at all but that resistance buff is few and far between.

What the hell is going on in balance land? IS there a balance land?

I see so much has changed!!! haha now they have daily login rewards? I’d still login if WvW had any actual updates or changes…. or new class skills….

so hows things? you guys still play this?

WHO REMEMBERS MIGHTY BI FURIOUS FROM YAKS BEND?!?!?

As simple as going to the duel pits to see nothing but cond dmg builds abusing perplexity runes.

so is it working as intended? its pretty obvious how cond damage is way too easy to pull off and dominate in small group fights. Especially if a group is coordinated its just a joke. Should we all just run cond builds?

Anyone who makes excuses as to why ascended is ok for wvw don’t want a balanced pvp game. There is no argument as to why ascended makes things better, it does not.

It is completely unnecessary and is simply a mechanism to retain players and make money. This has nothing ti do with “make it like spvp” its making a gametype balanced. Even footing.

People for ascended are the ones who already play a ton, and don’t care about balanced fights. Its pretty obvious as to why balance promotes pvp play, so all counter arguments are kind of pointless. just scale stats down to exotic in wvw. You keep your fancy weps, game stays easier to balance

You guys realize the patcher is encouraging people to transfer right? I was gonna log in for the first time in weeks but I saw that and ill wait some more.

“Pick the right homeworld! " is how they talk about season 1. Pretty obvious why they haven’t locked xfers

DeWolfe.2174:

14 pages of ego’s, assumptions and prejudices, that’s mostly what I see. You’re all being lead from a subject title without basis. I highly doubt anyone watched the video from the beginning. By even telling people to start at the 22:00 minute mark, you’re being mislead because you would be missing the most important part’s.

The Dev popped his tag, not because anyone was GvG’ing, but because the first words whispered to him was curse words! The person in the video should have been banned on the spot for it.

This video is not a good representation of a good guild, good players, or simply good manners. The person in the video is certainly living up to his characters name “Star Instigator”. Which is exactly what he was…

they asked him to move, and he refused too, for no reason other to try and ruin their fun. If i just stand in the middle of a basketball court while people are trying to play, i can expect some harsh words too

spoiler alert, GvG or fight club arena type things will never come. If anet really wanted too, they would just remove jump puzzle from WvW queues, which would give people a perfect spot to go GvG. also not allowing bloodlust in there. GASP, making both sides happy.

Guess what? its been a year and they never bothered to do that (or anything), and it was a super simple and easy solution.

They dont want too, they want you to play WvW for this awful PPT and now achievements! cause thats fun! get some more ascended gear too!

THEN FIGHT THE MIGHTY TEQUITAL

*for the record, i never thought GvG looked fun, I thought it was messy. But fight clubs and small fights were alot of fun, and get this? I respect GvG players to just have fun so i dont care. Its a godkitten game, people play to have fun.

saiyr.3071:

CrassBippy.4619:

Please just quit. They don’t care anymore, I just uninstalled, checked back for this image and someone finally posted it thanks.

Wvw is dead. go get that ppt and ascended lust

:( noooooo

Dont cry. It Will make me cry

Please just quit. They don’t care anymore, I just uninstalled, checked back for this image and someone finally posted it thanks.

Wvw is dead. go get that ppt and ascended lust

Its good to have some dev response finally…. talking about how leagues are still coming and avoiding any other topics.

Later all! Have fun being the minority who knows nothing.

Professor Sensei.2941:

WvW gives players an actual end game objective. If we all used “balanced” stats with no player progression there would be no real investment in any of your toons. That’s how I see it at least. I love using my jacked stats lol.

this is what is wrong with MMO players. Everyone treats it like a second job and thinks higher stats is necessary, when all it does is raise enemy levels to make it all pointless too.

All it does for PvP is ruin it

Troj.7940:

Ironic coming from a VCY member,half of the VCY I just fought in GH BL were all abusing these runes.

Pathetic antipvp

He was being sarcastic yuck yuck

People are super mad at direction of wvw, anet adds lots of easy achievement points so pve types hop in to farm

WvW changes deemed massive success

Zenguy.6421:

WvW was originally designed as a direct extension of PvE: “Come and defend your world from invaders”; WvW benefits apply in PvE; etc.

It was recognized that most GW2 players would sign up for PvE, and the idea was that WvW would create a natural transition path from PvE to PvP, especially for L80 players seeking more end game content and challenge.

What was a great idea in theory hasn’t worked out in practice, with the numbers moving to WvW and PvP being been far lower than anticipated. WvW participation has been so abysmally low, in fact, that even simple incentives to participate in WvW like the need to get 500 Badges of Honor for a Legendary have failed and Anet have had to resort to giving them away free as achievement point rewards. As for the WvW buffs to PvE, the only people who even notice them are the WvW’ers. The result has been that we now have too many underpopulated WvW servers.

The only remaining benefits of keeping PVe and WVW linked are: a) players who join WvW default join a sever containing players they may know from their PvE sever; and b) guilds can participate in both PvE and WvW knowing their members will be on the same server together.

These last benefits are real but could be achieved with less WvW servers, simply by having some PvE servers sharing the WvW servers (e.g. two PvE servers to each WvW server for all except the top tier or so in each region).

actually, they were given away because anet doesnt want to anger the droves of legendary chasers that spend hundreds of dollars on their game. GW2 is entirely catered to that player base, look at how their manifesto was chucked out the window and we now have power creep in WvW.

I have logged in for 30 minutes total since the patch of bloodlust. seeing if Anet will recognize how pointless all this power creep is for WvW and i could play again.

Feed Me Change.6528:

Griefing is the problem with this.

As ANet as said around 100 times, they will not add stat buffs for being outnumbered, outmanned or in any direct correlation to the number of people who have on a map, because it will lead to griefing. People harassing others to leave so they can get 50 more stats will happen and that’s the reason the famed “Orb to Outnumbered buff” argument never goes anywhere.

Too bad they did that with the orbs. Large servers can easily hold +150 to all stats

kitten kitten

It took me 5 minutes using them on my warrior to know they are broken.

“We are gathering data and will determine if these runes are overpowered. We need more data”

collecting data

Gudradain.3892:

For those that don’t understand or don’t want to understand the performance issue…

Keep in mind that all the skills are balanced to have an AOE cap of 5 players. Meaning that if there wasn’t the cap of 5 players, all your AOE skills would do a LOT less damage per player.

Clear enough?

haha no they arent. they were balanced with no cap, later on patched in a 5 person AOE cap. Skill dmg was largely not touched

#almost

Nanyetah Elohi.4852:

We’ll see. It didnt matter that much to me to memorize the date, but SoR is definitely not that big of a deal.

I think it was JQ we kicked out of our third for breakfast this morning and they have not gotten past flipping a few abandonded towers and supply camps since.

It isnt that tier 1 servers are so much better than TC, it is that TC can be so much better than it is when we try at all. That is the fun of WvW for me, seeing how good we can get.

im gonna say you’ve been playing for about…. 3 or 4 months max? PPT and stuff like that was fun and id even talk trash in matchup forums when i started playing, but you slowly realize that its meaningless. Especially with all these new stat buffs and bloodlust that make servers statistically better then others, hence making “skill” less of a factor.

not to mention that its all just a #’s game the way WvW is setup. So you “going up against” those better servers is really just “did we have enough people on to zerg them back?”

on YB we’ve been blown out before PPT wise, but you could hop on and fight some of the worst players you’ve ever fought in your life on that server. PPT does not = skill

heck even watching some of the GvG made me laugh since it was just training into huge groups and spamming abilities. But I could at least recognize that the GvG required more skill then PPT

Rank means squat in wvw. my main was rank 35 cause all I did was small man and roam, mopped the floor of all the people who just zerg trained and farmed wxp

They are just doing what makes money. People have mentioned they spend 100+ $ a month in pve forums. Those are the whales, and Its who anet is targeting. Wvw is just a sloppy afterthought

Mike.7320:

Geeze..honestly….comon…

Hold 3 points in ONE OF 3 BL to obtain an orb buff. Wah wah wah my server zergs too much and wah wah wah we cant capture and hold 3 points. Carebears these days, holy kitten takes one freaking person to capture a point, you would think one out of 75 or so could capture it, Anet had an oversight, Gw2 players suck at anything that isnt blob v door.

???

people like the new mechanics and areas…. people dont like that stat buffs that make this game even more imbalanced, especially strong servers over weaker ones. I dont care it takes people to cap points, i just care about the direction WvW is going, which is why people are complaining

Juunro.7082:

Well, earlier this afternoon SBI had a two stack for a bit. It added about 1200 health to my warrior; the numbers aren’t big enough to make THAT noticable a difference in a large zerg battle, imo. People are still going to be downed so fast that it’s going to do what it always did, and come down to who’s got the biggest AOE support. There’s a REASON every warrior worth a kitten that runs with a zerg carries a Longbow.

If we’re talking about small group fight dynamics then yeah, that might not be terribly fair. But it’s WvW; it has never, ever been fair. It’s inherently built that way.

people always say this, if anything its even more magnified in zerg fights. 1 guy with +150 to all stats will kill you faster. Now 5 guys hit you with +150 stats, lets do the math

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you die faster

saiyr.3071:

cimon.5798:

this is not the case the only reason they got rid of them was because they were exploitable and encouraged hacking. i know you can dispute this further by saying o but i don’t even gvg or i hate gvg so why would i come here to complain if it weren’t for the fact that this buff is lame.

That’s factually incorrect. I’m sure Habib’s post has been thrown around here many times, so you can find it if you look hard enough.

cimon.5798:

but in all honesty there hasnt been enough time with the buff in place to call this one way or the other

That I agree with.

cimon.5798:

so it goes to reason either your a part of the gvg movement or close enough to it to try your hand at discrediting my previous statements. so i instead ask you to please try again

You are the one spouting factually incorrect statements and making gross assumptions about GvGers based on your own, limited experiences. If you don’t GvG, how do you have any remote idea of how many complaints are coming from GvG and how many aren’t?

WE DONT LIKE YOUR KIND ROUND THESE PARTS GUMMAN

titanlectro.5029:

CrassBippy.4619:

the things you listed are available to both servers and are not dependant on #’s. buffs favor larger servers, hence no STRATEGY.

strategy involves fair fights, but better play/planning/builds.

By that logic, all WvW content is bad because it favors larger numbers.

Are you saying that strategy can only exist in a fair fight? Because there has never been a fair fight in the history of war, and yet strategy existed.

There is most definitely a strategy for being outnumbered. It is called guerrilla tactics, and is a very real thing that really works in WvW. On the current GoM, we are almost always against superior numbers, and I love it. The war does not just stop because it is unfair. For me, fighting against superior numbers can be quite rewarding. You will probably not win the PPT, but you can accomplish some great things with guerrilla tactics.

Personally, I think the ruins give more opportunity for guerrilla tactics, thus favoring the underdog. Other people think it just favors the server with the most bodies. Until the meta shakes out, there is no way to prove it either way.

this is a game, games are meant to be fun. Try “guerilla” tactics all you want vs me when i have +150 stats over and over again and well see how much fun youre having. all I do is roam with 1 other person and fight zergs and occasionally fight in large zergs. Fact stands that if youre good at PvP you want players to be on a even footing, so that if you beat them its because of skill or build, not that two of us had +150 to all stats and +an extra 250 vit and +100 pwr and cond dmg because we grind wxp all day.

if its a balanced game, and you decided to build arrow carts and we didnt, you outplayed us and win. no hard feelings. If you guys have more people and now get even more high stats and we lose just cause we cant take back the +150 stats?

thats not “Strategy” or “skill” and its why orbs were removed in the first place. All i would do is fight vs larger #’s, 2v4 etc, and wed win alot. now you want to tip the scales even more to help out the group of 4+? ya super, neato. thatll make for a fun PvP experience.

also if you seriously try to say the “its not meant to be balanced!” all youve done is drank the kool aid and accepted the fact that they dont care about WvW

titanlectro.5029:

Swedemon.4670:

Lag can and eventually will be fixed. That’s not the core issue. The core issue is that all fights 1v1, ZvZ, etc. are no longer straight up fights, they are tainted by the stat buffs.

You can think of it like PED’s in sports. Lance Armstrong won all of those Tour de France’s or Barry Bonds won all of those MVP awards but they took PED’s so it doesn’t really count.

Apply it to WvW: Team A defeated Team B in the field. Team A had the stats buff so it doesn’t really count. Now if Team B won without the stats buff then okay, well done. But Team A never really had an opportunity to do something impressive win or lose, so already they are not going to play to their potential.

I realize PED’s are illegal and the Bloodlust buff is perfectly legal, the point is more regarding the fact that there is a performance enhancer involved and how this impacts the fun of legitimately defeating your opponent toe to toe.

WvW is about strategy. You are supposed to take advantage of every unfair aspect, it is war. That is why there is siege, walls, and upgrades.

If one side has a ballista behind their zerg, they have an advantage. If one side has the bloodlust buff, they have an advantage. WvW is a strategy game, and it is supposed to be that way.

The correct place for “toe to toe” “everything is fair” fighting is sPvP. I realize that sPvP is woefully inadequate for a lot of types of pvp, but that is sPvP’s problem, not WvW’s. They should not design WvW to be what sPvP ought to be. Instead they ought to improve the sPvP game mode so it can run GvG and duels and deathmatch.

the things you listed are available to both servers and are not dependant on #’s. buffs favor larger servers, hence no STRATEGY.

strategy involves fair fights, but better play/planning/builds.

you are basically supporting the thing that is not strategy and creates lopsided fights. WvW IS SUPPOSED TO BE BALANCED. get this through your heads, every competitive gametype is, UNFAIR is not IMBALANCED and WvW is at times UNFAIR, yet it can still be balanced.

anet is making the game UNFAIR as opposed to imbalanced, hence the outcry

cash money baby

I stopped playing, bloodlust and ascended just shows you the direction WvW is going. Wanted to hope they wouldnt take it this way but they are. Cant really complain anymore, they have some weird vision of WvW = PvE and that won’t change.

PPT becomes pointless after a couple months of playing and you realize just how meaningless it is, roaming and smaller fights or picking off zergs is alot of fun and dynamic, yet the skill is being stripped from it all and more and more stat imbalance is being added.

So oh well, ill creep around for a bit on forums because the topics and Anets ability to ignore feedback are fun (hilarious) to read. Ill see if anet will fix it but they won’t given their track record. this is definitely a new Anet

my friends list is empty besides 2 people who just PvE anyway which is kind of funny, used to be around 10-15 WvW only people nightly. obviously doesnt mean no one is on, but it just shows that all the people who just cared about having good fights in WvW havent touched it this week

New maps are really nice… without all this awful awful power creep theyd be awesome

My guild of two? Will do. real competition is built off a level playing field. Something you struggle with

killing up lvlZ rulez though. skilllzzzzzzz

timidobserver.7925:

Caedmon.6798:

timidobserver.7925:

Caedmon.6798:

timidobserver.7925:

Goodbye to those that stop playing. Hopefully you are the pugs, uplevels, and undergeared.

Full time wvwer and commander since the start of Guild wars.Try again

Btw,can’t you read ? An Organized guild like FIRE is disbanding because of these changes..let me tell you,these guys are not undergeared upleveld and they are certainly no pugs.

Sounds like a poor guild leader if he is going to rage disband a guild that so many people have put effort into building.

Why keep playing something that in your opinion is going down the drain ? People dont like the changes anet is making,and they are not the only ones thinking so..for that see the other dozens of threads about these changes where people are voicing their opinions.

Also did i ask you to feel bad for anyone ?

I would ask if anyone wanted to take over the guild. I wouldn’t rage disband it. Doing that shows a total lack of respect for the people that have helped build it.

As far as playing it goes, the change came out like 6 hours ago. No one has had enough time to play it enough to decide they don’t like it. Surely not even 30% of the massive membership of FIRE has logged in yet and played WvW. So basically, he is disbanding a guild because he is mad.

Guilds like FIRE are people who are good at pvp. I know its hard for you pve types to understand, but players like us don’t want power creep and un fair fights. I liked roaming and small fights a lot because it was (mostly) a test of skill and builds. Ascended and buffs crap all over it.

Enjoy your crutch to win on

AprilRain.7649:

Kaos.9162:

If you read the title of the post, it says “the strong get stronger”. I think you may have missed the point…

To me that mostly just says “The stupid stay stupid”. Your enemy needs to capture 9 areas to get the buff. They need to hold these areas for 2 minutes before it gets activated. It takes more than 2 minutes to capture these points.

If you can’t stand up to them, you need to change your tactics and communicate better with your allies.

Giggle

Lets throw in some ascended armor too for more stats while were at it. Lets max out our skillz pvp

Guys guys! Were evaluating this brand new and never recorded data on this brand new mechanic.

Its not like we already had this and it didn’t work.

Data!

Lets add a cash shop item for +2000 stats. Call it server pride! Win all the leagues!

How can you you roam and support this? You need unfair advantages to win in small fights?

No, back in your hole!

let’s all go out for milkshakes to celebrate our achievement!

Data collecting! Please hold

He’s on jade quarry. Makes sense

Please hold while we collect data, we obviously could not have forseen this

Hmmmmmm, it seems the obvious thing that was gonna happen happened. Lets collect some data and observe this.

Hmmmmm. Interesting….