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5/3 T3 Kaineng/Maguuma/Yak's Bend

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T3 is so screwed up I wish maguuma would take first and it was a more even match up. I just like maguuma. :P

We took first last week, and likely will this week. Kain loses a lot of people after the weekend for some reason.

We didn’t lose ppl. We just have very few Europeon players. That’s by far our weakest time zone. In the weekends we can play overtime to cover it. But in the weekdays everyone got work and school so we lost everything to pvdoor. That’s costing us a lot of points. >_>

No worries though. The fights are fun and that’s good enough for me.

That’s pretty much the definition of losing people, isn’t it? Your NA prime time isn’t as strong as it is on the weekends. Work and school aren’t really a complete story for that, it’s not as if we don’t all have similar situations.

When we do have people we always wins. That’s all we care about at this point. That final score has much more to do with our European coverage, which is out of our control so why worry?

Everyone wins when they have more people, though. That’s mostly what WvW is about. I think Mag only cares because there’s about 8 hours of dead air for us during the day and it gets quite boring!

Honestly, if this matchup was decided by number of WvW’ers it would have been mag 1st, yak 2nd , kain 3rd from day 1

Luckily it isnt.

Obviously right? Surely you are winning with your lesser #’s and superiorz skillz. !!!!

zzzz!

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GvG in the new Jumping Puzzle Map

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ps – please take out the windmills too thx

Why? People will just duel somewhere else.

Because he doesn’t like seeing people better them him

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5/3 T3 Kaineng/Maguuma/Yak's Bend

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Im totes undefeated vs DER~P. Sort of a big deal

I take it you were that longbow warrior from yesterday. That was some pretty good fighting! Though I wonder how you would do against some of the people you dueled in their more natural states.

i stay hood 4ever. <3

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5/3 T3 Kaineng/Maguuma/Yak's Bend

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Im totes undefeated vs DER~P. Sort of a big deal

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About that "unofficial dueling"

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I heard some people role play and do things that the developers did not plan on them doin for fun. Can we ban them too? they are outside the rules of kill monster, repeat.

Thx

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Buy Guild Back Banner with Badges of Honor

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Shhh wvw doesn’t exist to arena net. move along

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Arrowcarts [merged]

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After having put in around 12-14 hours in WvW since the patch and taking alot of towers and keeps that are well defended, theres really no problem here. It just takes some adjustments now and you need to think about what your doing before you do it. WvW has been designed to be easy mode for a long time. The arrowcarts force you to think tactically and to play smart. The reality is there are just alot of casuals who play this game and aren’t half as good at it as they think they are and since they have tunnel vision and the karma train mentality built into them they fail to adapt and get wiped. I hope Anets developments keep going the way they are. Im all for implementing tactics and skill to be a part of WvW and getting rid of this zerg mentality that people have become accustomed to.

whoa whoa wait…. we shouldnt just mindlessly run up stairs once the tower wall goes down?

like lolz WHATEVER

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Confusion Nerf Way Over the Top

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you mean the skill is more in line with other classes now and you hve to try harder for those kills? Sounds rough… Everyone who wasn’t maining a Mesmer/engineer knew it was OP in wvw. The ones playin this chars knew it too, so don’t get all up in arms over it

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From War Machine [WM]

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ah yes, the “run in a straight line mashing 1 then using veil again”. This has nothing to do with what’s best for a guild, It’s just people with a superiority complex who like to think they are the sole reason a server starts winning. doing so by abandoning a losing server….. So pointless

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Are the Devs even concerned about WvW?

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they have to patch wvw, obviously you can’t be in it while they are updatin it

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What would it take to get a mesmer buff?

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somehow with all these “nerfs” mesmers are still able to roflstomp people. Hmmmmmm

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Boon Hate: Bad for WvW Support?

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Aha.

That gives the Warrior a 5 second window to not only break your Aegis, but also take advantage of the boons you have. If you use something like LR, or Sword evades, or any of the number of the things the Ranger can use to avoid that follow-up hit, then you’re fine. The key is that it comes down to who outplays who in those 5 seconds.

Also my concern is more Zerg Vs Zerg than 1 v 1. If a Warrior outplays me great (though not that impressive I’m not a great duelist :P). What I don’t like is just how good this makes Rifle Warriors in the back of a Zerg. Combined with Piercing Shots that is a whole lotta Crit Damage blasting through a Zerg on a Profession with inherently better Armor and HP than a Ranger.

I main a warrior and trust me, none of the good builds involve going +30 into discipline. Ya youll have some glass cannon builds doing more dmg, but they are still weak as paper. So its not that big of a deal

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Confusion changes

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if you had any knowledge of the pvp system confusion was pretty obviously out of whack with everything else. Even people abusing it had to see it coming

I know the system quite well (from a WvW aspect which is where this nerf is happening) and it wasn’t very far out of wack as to get those numbers on a mesmer (i cant talk for engis here as i don’t play one) you needed to completly murder every other aspect of your build to get it to that height. The reason people did this is it has passive AoE potential which memers have almost none of what so ever, and even then its damage was no further out of sync with other classes bursts in my mind its harder to die from confusion alone that pure damage.

thats not even what is overpowered, the fact that you think this nerf is tied to glamour specs is why you are wrong. There are builds that can abuse the kitten out of confusion along with high dmg from other sources and you cannot out cleanse by yourself, even with 2 full remove alls.

But keep on thinking that ANET and everyone else who isnt maining a mesmer/engineer dont know what they are doing, obviously

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if you had any knowledge of the pvp system confusion was pretty obviously out of whack with everything else. Even people abusing it had to see it coming

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Dragonbrand : Welcome new WvW guilds!

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It’s a good thing you xfered, why tiers are so different these days. I mean each tier is like a complete 180 with incredibly different tactics and supreme differences.

This one time, a t3 server used a ballista and I was all nooooowaaaaay in t2 they use catapults! MIND BLOWN

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[RISE] Journey in Kaineng

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Not everyone shares your view of being “loyal” to a server for the entirety of the game. Some people find that honorable and some simply don’t care where they end up as long as they are having fun in the server they’re in.

All the while harming perfectly fine servers and communities, making people choose between friends/guild and fubaring the matchups for quite a while as the system slowly works it out.

(not directed at you, Fegelein)
But by all means, have at the thoughtless and selfish actions of WvW server hopping while scoffing at “loyalty” under the guise of “fun”. (because jacked up matchups for three or more weeks are sooooo much fun)

Question. Why do we have to care about harming a server and community? Why do we have to sacrifice our guild and fun to a community that is already dying? We are real people that spent real money on a game to have our kind of fun. kitten honor and loyalty to servers. We’re here for competitive WvW, GvG, ZergvZerg. T3 won’t have that for us. It wasn’t thoughtless or selfish. Selfish would be making my guild sit in a dying server while most of our guild members want to move out. Our responsibility as a guild is our guild not a server.

T3 wouldn’t have that? Ok…. And kaineng “rising” was the dumbest thing ever. The server had 3 times the amount of players vs anyone until you hit t2 and stopped winning. Nothing special about getting a huge influx of players and then losing once you have equal competition.

So ya, stick it out and don’t try to act all dramatic.

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Confusion

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Oh hai, people are still saying confusion is balanced in here? Sweet grabs popcorn

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Confusion

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I personally think Mesmers are not suitable with their Mirrors+Confusion to be used in PvP or WvWvW – I would remove the class altogether and use a different one from GW1

I very much hope for a Paragon class in the future. Mesmers as they are now, are just ridiculously overpowered and need to be got rid of.

they aren’t absurdly OP, it’s just the way confusion works and the duration in wvw that pretty much locks you down. They don’t even need to spec Into cond dmg, just get the all clones give confusion on death and it’s cake.

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Berzerker/Knight mesmer with 300 condi due to spec and condition damage stacks.

1744 a tick followed with some glass cannon dps.

Its not just pure condition mesmers that use confusion to their advantage.

someone being honest, lets all +1 this

people can bring up any argument they want, try to refute it with any argument they want. If you have fought alot of really good mesmers, you know just how lop sided it can be. The only people who can defend it are people running those specs that dont want it to get brought down. They just discredit the people who bring up ideas like this as “bad” or that we have no idea what we are talking about.

The problem is that ANET didnt balanced WVW around the same levels as Spvp, because honestly, why shouldnt they? wvw DOES NOT NEED 80%+ crit damage, nor does it need all these consumables for super long cond durations. Its a joke and its gotten way out of hand with all this ascended gear constantly just adding even more damage

So now you want to nerf all crit damage too for every class? Out of curiosity, oh crusader against confusion, what class do you main? I’m willing to bet thief. Thieves hate Mesmers because we are their natural predator. Thieves like to go unchecked and kill at will. Confusion messes up their light speed combos. Thus the resentment. Every class needs a counter of some kind for balance. As to the above poster, again, the 1700 number is probably a single target, unobstructed stack. What that means is that the Mesmer dumped every ability they have on the target. This is impossible to do large scale against a Zerg. Believe me, I’ve tried. I did some more tests today just to test your theories out. The data just doesn’t support your claim. You can only get 2-3 stacks against large groups. More like 300-400 a tick. Single target dump of all abilities can yield a higher number but it requires full three clone shatter. Most clones never make it past the line of AOE and death in front of a big group because they have such low health. So there goes all their confusion. Which leaves glams. Each glam delivers 1-2 stacks ( on blind) 2 more if the targets run out of the AOE and you’ve traited for that. That’s it. Good luck getting that stack up. Scepter range won’t cut into a large group. Plus, even at full dump of all abilities, yer basically helpless after the target cleanses because of all the cool downs. Sorry bud, that fish is three days old. I ain’t buyin’ it.

Now let’s say for argument sake, that you’re 1v1 and you manage to stack enough single target confusion dump with every ability you have on your foe. And let’s say it does hit 1744 (I’ve never got that high but I’ll trust the random poster above). And let’s say that foe hits… say 4 abilities during the duration. That’s 6,976 over a 2 second period on a SINGLE target. On my Engineer I can toss grenade barrage and hit 5 targets with static discharge for a total of 9k instantly. Don’t get me started on the burst potential of Elementalists. How is this confusion number unfair and nerfable? especially if it’s impossible to get that kind of damage against a larger group? Riddle me that?

Just got hit for 1975 with only 5 stacks of confusion on me in WvW. look at my screenshot, I easily hit 12 stacks of confusion and still had Every one of my weapon skills off cooldown, and a utility left. So dont try to do that talk.

I main a warrior, where I can easily have 2 remove all conditions, plus 3 single cond removals. so yeah, go on.

The thing you fail to realize, is mesmers arent even having to build into cond damage, they can do power crit, and still get a ton of confusion damage. By your logic, its ridiculous damage on 1 target (multiple since they are AOE but ill play along) so its ok?

Why does it matter vs a large group? My hammer warrior hits maybe 3 targets at once? and he can murder large groups…. hell i can use a rifle build without piercing shots and still murder in WvW. a single target or large groups does not matter, the skill itself is what can be broken or not

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Confusion

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Berzerker/Knight mesmer with 300 condi due to spec and condition damage stacks.

1744 a tick followed with some glass cannon dps.

Its not just pure condition mesmers that use confusion to their advantage.

someone being honest, lets all +1 this

people can bring up any argument they want, try to refute it with any argument they want. If you have fought alot of really good mesmers, you know just how lop sided it can be. The only people who can defend it are people running those specs that dont want it to get brought down. They just discredit the people who bring up ideas like this as “bad” or that we have no idea what we are talking about.

The problem is that ANET didnt balanced WVW around the same levels as Spvp, because honestly, why shouldnt they? wvw DOES NOT NEED 80%+ crit damage, nor does it need all these consumables for super long cond durations. Its a joke and its gotten way out of hand with all this ascended gear constantly just adding even more damage

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They can apply many stacks confusion on a very large number of opponents from long range.

I’m playing a glamour mesmer, how exactly do I do that? Tell me please, because somehow I couldn’t figure that out in the last 100 hours I played that build.
Also see https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/professions/mesmer/The-inevitable-WvW-Confusion-nerf/page/2#post1774788
Most people commenting here simply make false claims about how confusion works and how to counter it. Coincidentially, many of the same people actually play thieves or eles…

If you’ve played over 100 hrs as Mesmer, we shouldn’t need to tell you how. It’s not false, also note I said 12 avg, and yes, you can get 15 stacks as a Mesmer since I’ve done it

I have played 500 hours as a memer, 100 hours with a glamour build. And you should really work on your reading comprehension. Maybe read what I quoted at all.

They can apply many stacks confusion on a very large number of opponents from long range.

The reason I was asking how to do this obviously wasn’t that I actually expected an answer, but to show that I wouldn’t get one (which you’ve proven by not providing one, thanks) because that statement is simpy false. Exactly the kind of uninformed exaggeration that makes discussions like this so ridiculous. People have no clue how the classes and confusion work and make false claims because they can’t deal with it.

this is in Spvp, with no + duration buffs or anything on armor, took me no time at all to do. i can already get 2 more clones on current wep to get 3 more stacks of confusion, then switch weapons and get another 3+ stacks along with interupts and boons for myself. hell im not even using a scepter.

But its impossible right? i dont know what im talking about, im just a scrub who spreads false information because i have an agenda!

Take this over to WvW and add another 50%+ to cond duration and alot more dmg. fun

PS – i pre-emptively accept your apologies

Single target stacking with no opposing threat and no obstruction for your clones to shatter around means next to nothing. Show me you getting 12 stacks on 25+ players. Oh right, you can’t. Because it’s impossible.

Why are you even here? Youre not offering any reasonable conversation. Now youre just changing the topic and people will never win trying to discuss things with you. You are the one with the agenda here. and by the way all those shatters are AOE.

so that 12+ and 15+ stacks are on multiple targets….. but it will always be something with you. So we all know youre just trying to hide things and mis inform people so they think confusion is ok and they dont nerf your baby.

you can go now, its ok. Well still have a discussion about it

Look, you clearly have an agenda as well (look back at all your posts). I am in no way trying to hide things or misinform. Everything I’ve posted is based on my 100+ hours of gameplay. I’m here because I have played too many MMO’s that I’ve worked hard on and quite enjoyed only to watch classes that the developers have done an expert job on creating destroyed by nerf witch hunts and forum warriors.

The reality though is that we can argue until we’re blue in the face. You won’t change my mind and I won’t change yours. I think confusion is fine, you think it’s OP. There’s no point in trying to change eachother’s minds.

This discussion is ultimately pointless because it’ll have no effect on what the dev’s decide to do. Anet has proven to be very measured in their balancing patches. We can point fingers all day, but in the end they’ll do what they’re gonna do. You want a nerf, I don’t. In the end they’ll probably be some slight changes, but confusion is here to stay.

It’s not pointless at all, if confusion was “fine” it wouldn’t be nerfed in spvp. The only thing that left it in wvw was that they considered wvw as pve, which it obviously isn’t. Don’t know how people can defend it in its current state when it was already toned down in spvp. and don’t say “less #s blah” its all the same mechanics and classes/skills

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They can apply many stacks confusion on a very large number of opponents from long range.

I’m playing a glamour mesmer, how exactly do I do that? Tell me please, because somehow I couldn’t figure that out in the last 100 hours I played that build.
Also see https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/professions/mesmer/The-inevitable-WvW-Confusion-nerf/page/2#post1774788
Most people commenting here simply make false claims about how confusion works and how to counter it. Coincidentially, many of the same people actually play thieves or eles…

If you’ve played over 100 hrs as Mesmer, we shouldn’t need to tell you how. It’s not false, also note I said 12 avg, and yes, you can get 15 stacks as a Mesmer since I’ve done it

I have played 500 hours as a memer, 100 hours with a glamour build. And you should really work on your reading comprehension. Maybe read what I quoted at all.

They can apply many stacks confusion on a very large number of opponents from long range.

The reason I was asking how to do this obviously wasn’t that I actually expected an answer, but to show that I wouldn’t get one (which you’ve proven by not providing one, thanks) because that statement is simpy false. Exactly the kind of uninformed exaggeration that makes discussions like this so ridiculous. People have no clue how the classes and confusion work and make false claims because they can’t deal with it.

this is in Spvp, with no + duration buffs or anything on armor, took me no time at all to do. i can already get 2 more clones on current wep to get 3 more stacks of confusion, then switch weapons and get another 3+ stacks along with interupts and boons for myself. hell im not even using a scepter.

But its impossible right? i dont know what im talking about, im just a scrub who spreads false information because i have an agenda!

Take this over to WvW and add another 50%+ to cond duration and alot more dmg. fun

PS – i pre-emptively accept your apologies

Single target stacking with no opposing threat and no obstruction for your clones to shatter around means next to nothing. Show me you getting 12 stacks on 25+ players. Oh right, you can’t. Because it’s impossible.

Why are you even here? Youre not offering any reasonable conversation. Now youre just changing the topic and people will never win trying to discuss things with you. You are the one with the agenda here. and by the way all those shatters are AOE.

so that 12+ and 15+ stacks are on multiple targets….. but it will always be something with you. So we all know youre just trying to hide things and mis inform people so they think confusion is ok and they dont nerf your baby.

you can go now, its ok. Well still have a discussion about it

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They can apply many stacks confusion on a very large number of opponents from long range.

I’m playing a glamour mesmer, how exactly do I do that? Tell me please, because somehow I couldn’t figure that out in the last 100 hours I played that build.
Also see https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/professions/mesmer/The-inevitable-WvW-Confusion-nerf/page/2#post1774788
Most people commenting here simply make false claims about how confusion works and how to counter it. Coincidentially, many of the same people actually play thieves or eles…

If you’ve played over 100 hrs as Mesmer, we shouldn’t need to tell you how. It’s not false, also note I said 12 avg, and yes, you can get 15 stacks as a Mesmer since I’ve done it

I have played 500 hours as a memer, 100 hours with a glamour build. And you should really work on your reading comprehension. Maybe read what I quoted at all.

They can apply many stacks confusion on a very large number of opponents from long range.

The reason I was asking how to do this obviously wasn’t that I actually expected an answer, but to show that I wouldn’t get one (which you’ve proven by not providing one, thanks) because that statement is simpy false. Exactly the kind of uninformed exaggeration that makes discussions like this so ridiculous. People have no clue how the classes and confusion work and make false claims because they can’t deal with it.

this is in Spvp, with no + duration buffs or anything on armor, took me no time at all to do. i can already get 2 more clones on current wep to get 3 more stacks of confusion, then switch weapons and get another 3+ stacks along with interupts and boons for myself. hell im not even using a scepter.

But its impossible right? i dont know what im talking about, im just a scrub who spreads false information because i have an agenda!

Take this over to WvW and add another 50%+ to cond duration and alot more dmg. fun

PS – i pre-emptively accept your apologies

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Thieves needs a nerf

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Thieves are so weak, just have a knockback and stun breaker, use a leap or something after first combo. They are the easiest class for me to fight

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I still have difficulty with Mesmers from time to time; you can tell a good one usually who kills you and it often has very little to do with Confusion, because the bad ones often try to go full confusion and get murdered. Nothing wrong with that, every class should have viable strengths, and you as another class should spend some time learning how to counteract that with your class’ abilities (or lack thereof in the case of not attacking).

Confusion’s fine in WvW, with this one caveat: it should not apply on any dodge rolls so that needs to change.

confusion is supposed to put you in a state of "is it worth it for me to keep attacking? At the moment in wvw, it’s more of a “you have confusion, you’ll lose if you do anything with it up”.

Confusion is fine, it’s the consumables and higher stats that push it a bit overboard

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They can apply many stacks confusion on a very large number of opponents from long range.

I’m playing a glamour mesmer, how exactly do I do that? Tell me please, because somehow I couldn’t figure that out in the last 100 hours I played that build.
Also see https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/professions/mesmer/The-inevitable-WvW-Confusion-nerf/page/2#post1774788
Most people commenting here simply make false claims about how confusion works and how to counter it. Coincidentially, many of the same people actually play thieves or eles…

If you’ve played over 100 hrs as Mesmer, we shouldn’t need to tell you how. It’s not false, also note I said 12 avg, and yes, you can get 15 stacks as a Mesmer since I’ve done it

I have played 500 hours as a memer, 100 hours with a glamour build. And you should really work on your reading comprehension. Maybe read what I quoted at all.

They can apply many stacks confusion on a very large number of opponents from long range.

The reason I was asking how to do this obviously wasn’t that I actually expected an answer, but to show that I wouldn’t get one (which you’ve proven by not providing one, thanks) because that statement is simpy false. Exactly the kind of uninformed exaggeration that makes discussions like this so ridiculous. People have no clue how the classes and confusion work and make false claims because they can’t deal with it.

12 stacks of confusion is not hard at all to get… You are just stomping your feet and action like its impossible, I’ll hop on tonight and ss since you simply refuse to believe it

If you aren’t Deniara Devious, I have absolutely no idea what you want from me. I never said you couldn’t apply 12 stacks of confusion to a player. Could you please finally start reading before you reply? I even quoted again what I replied to and you still don’t get it, I’m really at a loss here.

Maye you should re-read what you posted. You said I was spreading false info…. Maybe you’re confused? You should avoid moving or doing anything until it wears off

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They can apply many stacks confusion on a very large number of opponents from long range.

I’m playing a glamour mesmer, how exactly do I do that? Tell me please, because somehow I couldn’t figure that out in the last 100 hours I played that build.
Also see https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/professions/mesmer/The-inevitable-WvW-Confusion-nerf/page/2#post1774788
Most people commenting here simply make false claims about how confusion works and how to counter it. Coincidentially, many of the same people actually play thieves or eles…

If you’ve played over 100 hrs as Mesmer, we shouldn’t need to tell you how. It’s not false, also note I said 12 avg, and yes, you can get 15 stacks as a Mesmer since I’ve done it

I have played 500 hours as a memer, 100 hours with a glamour build. And you should really work on your reading comprehension. Maybe read what I quoted at all.

They can apply many stacks confusion on a very large number of opponents from long range.

The reason I was asking how to do this obviously wasn’t that I actually expected an answer, but to show that I wouldn’t get one (which you’ve proven by not providing one, thanks) because that statement is simpy false. Exactly the kind of uninformed exaggeration that makes discussions like this so ridiculous. People have no clue how the classes and confusion work and make false claims because they can’t deal with it.

12 stacks of confusion is not hard at all to get… You are just stomping your feet and action like its impossible, I’ll hop on tonight and ss since you simply refuse to believe it

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Incoming WvW class nerfs

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Gotta say I’m nervous about this. As players, we work hard for our gear with both PVE and WvW in mind. Some of us have done a lot of research about what runes, trinkets, etc to use and farm with the entire game in mind.. Are we gonna find out that all the gear we grinded for is now obsolete or ineffective when we transition from PVE to WvW? Will we now need two sets of gear? One for WvW and one for PVE? There’s so much that could go wrong. Whole classes could get swept under the bus in WvW but shine in PVE. It’ll also ruin the “training period” that occers when leveling. I want my character to be the same everywhere. Are we gonna have to re-trait everytime we enter WvW? The game is working great IMO. No need to seperate and fiddle with something that works extremely well (whiners aside). I hope Anet shows restraint. What WvW really needs is better armor rewards / designs to spend badges on.

Gear would be the same, a build is a build. Just things won’t be OP

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I think so many people are unhappy with confusion because the condition and the skills/traits associated with it either does too little, or too much. In the case of PvE there are many complaints that confusion does low damage due to the attack speeds of mobs and bosses, even when stacking large amounts of confusion. However, in the case of PvP and WvWvW where players attack much faster, the damage offered by confusion is much higher, to the point where people with 10+ stacks can die within seconds if they’re not paying attention.

A personal complaint about confusion is how it collapses the available skills and traits it allows people to spec in. As a GW1 vet who played a Mesmer, I love how skills synergized so effectively. For instance, I could use psychic distraction to knock down a player, case Wastrel’s Worry, and as they’re getting up and trying to cast a skill I hit them with Power Spike to take a large chunk of their health. In GW2 you can’t synergize confusion or damage with interrupts, the complete opposite of what mesmers offered in GW1: punishment. If you daze/stun someone the confusion stacks are rendered useless and you’ve accomplished very little pressure and damage on an opponent. If you want to use confusion, you have to heavily invest into glamours/reflect/CoF shatter. Conversely, if I’m going straight-up damage (shatter/phantasm), confusion actually hurts my damage output because the methods that mesmers apply confusion clash with the ways they inflict damage rely on the same resources (clones/phantasms).

I think if confusion were to be changed to function differently we might be able to find a middle ground in which WvWvW, PvP, and PvE players are happy with confusion, while maintaining synergy with the rest of the mesmer’s abilities. I think confusion should be changed to something like this:

Confusion: Deals X damage per second. Deals 80% less damage when target is activating skills. Stacks in duration.

So let me give an example of what my change would do. Let’s say for argument’s sake that confusion on a certain build hits for 2k damage per second, and I apply this on a warrior. For each second that he is not casting a skill he would be taking 2k damage. However, if the warrior were to auto-attack or cast hundred blades, as long as he is attacking/channeling he would be taking 400 damage a second.

I think this would help solve the middle ground between both aspects of Guild Wars (PvE and PvP), and I’ll discuss each separately.

PvE: I think this my proposed changes would help make Mesmer condition builds viable. Why? Well, if the issue with the current state of confusion is that mobs do not trigger confusion fast enough, then if you change confusion to damage when mobs aren’t attacking you could make confusion a viable damage-dealing condition, which was the intention of the condition in the first place. If the condition was duration-based instead of intensity-based, then you do not have to worry about teams that could exploit stealth and stack confusion quickly.

PvP/WvWvW: I think that the change to confusion would fit perfectly. We’ve seen this type of hex in the form of Wastrel’s Worry/Demise in GW1, and I think it was a very powerful damage skill when mesmers utilized interrupts. If confusion is applied to a player, they would be pressured to use a skill or take hefty damage. Since every class has access to autoattacks, the only time in which confusion would do full damage that a player would be responsible for would be when a player is hit by daze, stun, kd, or blowout (dodge is currently set so it functions as casting as a skill).

I’m not crying for some crazy nerf, but the skill needs to be looked at with the we consumables/stats

Ps thx for actually contributin instead of just saying "omg everything is fine "

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If you dont feel like confusion is a little too strong, then youre delusional, and likely main a confusion character. I remember trying a hundred blades frenzy warrior in Spvp back in the day and I knew it was OP, and i main a warrior.

Go fight a good mesmer, see how you do vs their confusion build with WvW buffs and stats. Then with a straight face try to say its working as intended.

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Incoming WvW class nerfs

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how can anyone think this is bad? this is the best news ever. Basically means theyll try to balance WvW with WvW in mind….

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I beg Anet not to listen to this confusion / mesmer witch hunt. Most of these posts are factually inaccurate and propagated by people who haven’t played a confusion spec . I’ve run OP classes in MMOs before. Mesmer / Confusion is in no way OP. As a warlock in WOW we had a truly OP ability called seed of corruption which would do massive damage if a target tried to remove our conditions. I WISH we had that ability here, but we don’t. A simple condition removal gets rid of our confusion. Boom, it’s gone. Everything we traited for, gone. Plus, and I reiterate, confusion really doesn’t do good damage. Burning is a much more powerful condition. People who get hurt by confusion are getting hurt for 3 reasons: 1.They refuse to carry any condition removal skills or runes or sigils. 2. They don’t look at their condition bar and continue to mindlessly spam attacks. 3. They don’t pay attention to AOE placed around them and stand in the AOE. All of these counters to confusion are EASILY accomplished with even the slightest thought and application. Having a class that forces a mindless Zerg to think a bit and play smart is a brilliant move on Anet’s part. As for myself, when I get hit with confusion it gives me zero worry. I drop Null Field on myself and I’m fine. Or I just wait it out and back off. Easy.

I love how people who run confusion builds instantly cry that very one is a noob hen stating opinions/facts. sorry bud but I Pvp alot, understand all the mechanics and I can still realize certain parts of my class that might be toned down in the future, I don’t cry if they might nerf my class. It’s not a l2 kitten ue, and the people who use the class are the people in this thread not giving ideas/feedback. I’ve played a Mesmer alot too so I understand its mechanics.

Also no, cond removal NEVER reliably removes confusion. Only a remove all, so that’s false to act like people casually remove it with ease

Firstly, what I pride myself on never doing is posting that other classes need to be nerfed. I tend to accept the game as is. I never post about how this class or the other is in need of the developers stepping in and weakening it’s core mechanic. To me that seems like true “crying”. As opposed to defending a class you love. That’s loyalty. Second, no one ever said skills that remove a single condition should be able to solve all your problems. Naturally a full condition remove is in order. And most classes have a full remove. Or you could always NOT ATTACK. Lastly, keep in mind that this is a DOT. Why is it that when an ele does 25K direct damage in 2 seconds that’s not considered O.P. But when I, as a condition mesmer, manage to do a measly 2K over 3 minutes we deserve a nerf? I accept that elementalists excel at direct damage. I don’t want a nerf to elementalists or any other class. If confusion is so OP, why is it that I never die of it ever when anyone tosses it on me?

measly 2k? So then tell me this, why is confusion much weaker in Spvp? where the game is balanced around… and yes you can not attack….for 10 seconds. great idea. this sounds like a great counter.

this discussion is for people who are in a higher level of PvP, not just someone who uses confusion every 45 seconds and thinks neato! im doin dmg. This is for the people who know the class inside and out, and can consistenly put 10 stacks of confusion, you remove all, then put another 8 on you seconds later. so then what? not attack? by then their cooldowns will be back up and its the same thing all over again.

WvW and consumables makes Confusion into too much of a deal breaker for fighting them. WvW needs to have seperate balance then PvE, why it doesnt use same balancing as Spvp ill never know

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Complaining about confusion damage at 12+ stacks is just as bad as calling 100 Blades OP. L2Dodge

One of the biggest issues people keep bringing up is dodging with confusion can do a significant amount of damage, if you have an on dodge trait. This prevents you from avoiding even more confusion.

It’s ok, they use confusion, it doesn’t need nerfing obviously. I use retaliation and I know that needs a little rework too, but were all noobs

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If you’ve played over 100 hrs as Mesmer, we shouldn’t need to tell you how. It’s not false, also note I said 12 avg, and yes, you can get 15 stacks as a Mesmer since I’ve done it

so pro cause he doesnt need to tell u …
/no

I guess u can with traits, shatter, and illusions like:

blinding befuddlement
dazzling glamours
master of misdirection
illusionary retribution
confusing enchantments
debilitating disippation
confusing images
temporal curtain to pull into or out from glamour aoe
chaos armor
rare veggie pizza (+40% condition duration)
superior rune of the mad king x2 +10% condition duration
superior rune of lysa x2 +10% condition duration
major rune of mad or lysa +7% condition damage
phantasmal mage

and thats all i can think about it ><
the more condition duration the more the chance u can stack more confusion

No, it’s obvious. It’s pretty simple, clone utilities, staff, dodge makes a clone. Why would I need to describe how to do it to Someone who apparently has 100 hours in that class? He discredits others just cause he can’t figure it out for himself

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They can apply many stacks confusion on a very large number of opponents from long range.

I’m playing a glamour mesmer, how exactly do I do that? Tell me please, because somehow I couldn’t figure that out in the last 100 hours I played that build.
Also see https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/professions/mesmer/The-inevitable-WvW-Confusion-nerf/page/2#post1774788
Most people commenting here simply make false claims about how confusion works and how to counter it. Coincidentially, many of the same people actually play thieves or eles…

If you’ve played over 100 hrs as Mesmer, we shouldn’t need to tell you how. It’s not false, also note I said 12 avg, and yes, you can get 15 stacks as a Mesmer since I’ve done it

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I beg Anet not to listen to this confusion / mesmer witch hunt. Most of these posts are factually inaccurate and propagated by people who haven’t played a confusion spec . I’ve run OP classes in MMOs before. Mesmer / Confusion is in no way OP. As a warlock in WOW we had a truly OP ability called seed of corruption which would do massive damage if a target tried to remove our conditions. I WISH we had that ability here, but we don’t. A simple condition removal gets rid of our confusion. Boom, it’s gone. Everything we traited for, gone. Plus, and I reiterate, confusion really doesn’t do good damage. Burning is a much more powerful condition. People who get hurt by confusion are getting hurt for 3 reasons: 1.They refuse to carry any condition removal skills or runes or sigils. 2. They don’t look at their condition bar and continue to mindlessly spam attacks. 3. They don’t pay attention to AOE placed around them and stand in the AOE. All of these counters to confusion are EASILY accomplished with even the slightest thought and application. Having a class that forces a mindless Zerg to think a bit and play smart is a brilliant move on Anet’s part. As for myself, when I get hit with confusion it gives me zero worry. I drop Null Field on myself and I’m fine. Or I just wait it out and back off. Easy.

I love how people who run confusion builds instantly cry that very one is a noob hen stating opinions/facts. sorry bud but I Pvp alot, understand all the mechanics and I can still realize certain parts of my class that might be toned down in the future, I don’t cry if they might nerf my class. It’s not a l2 kitten ue, and the people who use the class are the people in this thread not giving ideas/feedback. I’ve played a Mesmer alot too so I understand its mechanics.

Also no, cond removal NEVER reliably removes confusion. Only a remove all, so that’s false to act like people casually remove it with ease

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Dev said:

“We’re starting to split PvE/WvW in the upcoming patch.

But we want them to be things that keep consistency across the game types as much as possible.?

I can just feel that the nerf is coming

wvw and Pve seperate would be the best thing ever. while theyre at it, why dont they revert ascended gear stats down to exotic when entering WvW… like it always should have been

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For the most part I think people will agree that traited dodges and changing attunements/kits should be changed and wouldn’t affect much. It’s the outcries to the nerf to damage that people are disagreeing with.

@Crass I could kind of see that and I wouldn’t see an issue with a change like that for smaller fights but in big fights against organized guilds condition removal is pretty plentiful. But here is my only thing we don’t have to many other conditions besides confusion. Staff 1 does a random condition which usually has like a 1sec duration then the other two that cause it conditions are chaos storm and chaos armor. Armor is really hard to avoid since a good mesmer can get like 30secs of it but chaos storm most just run out.

@Endemonadia the glamors your referring to are heavily traited to get confusion so they are giving up a lot of traits to get that set up. I already went over that just glamor confusions alone aren’t going to do a lot of damage unless your smashing your face on the keyboard. If a large grou kitten uccessfully stacking high stacks of confusion with glamors they probably have mesmers coordinating together to keep it rolling. Which at that point that takes some skill to time placements and movement across people to keep the stacks going. I mean if you are pointing out the skill about this how about zergs that run a rotation of necros with plague to keep blinds, weakness, and poison a whole zerg. Mind you I have no problem with either of these they are tactics learn and adapt or die imo.
In case you missed my previous comments on glamors Ill put it here again

Glamors can cause a max of 6 confusion (provided you don’t run back into them) with using all 3 slots, but frankly imo that is dumb because then you have no stun breaks except phase retreat. So with 2 you are looking at 4 stacks from them. For arguments sake ill use the 6 stack, which with my condition damage would be about 1900 damage. The way confusion falls off is a timer for each stack so based of glamors that is sets of (1,2)(3,4)(5,6) based on reaction time and from experience after the last glamor there is about a half a second before the 6 stack drops to 4. Also a lot of organized groups ask for atleast one mesmer with veil and one with portal so then two mesmers only have 1 place-able glamor for offense. Which some keep the null field for defense to wipe conditions off their allies like confusion and such so those with feedback and null field only have one for offense

It’s not a glamour build, shatter mesmers can get up to 15 stacks of confusion, regularly on avg 12. Plus shattered clones give a random condition. And they do this multiple times in a fight, it’s not a big burst and that’s it, mesmers can do it alot, ive played one.

Also if people say “thats just 1v1, omg wvw isnt 1v1!” that argument makes 0 sense. If you want to see just how OP classes can be in wvw, go do some small fights and 1v1 where you can really notice things. Sittin in a zerg you dont realize just how skewed certain things are in WvW. Whats dumb is that Anet has not kept SPvP and WvW similair in stats and balance…. why? no clue

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I always remove bleeding stacks with my condition removal if I have it, 100% of the time with my cond removal skills. I’m not 100% on this but I’m pretty sure it prioritizes certain cond.

If not, it should. That’s supposed to be a counter to cond builds…. Removal. Why shouldn’t it prioritize certain ones?

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I dont think people understood the point I was going for. If you have fought a good mesmer 1v1 who stacks confusion, you know why its “OP.” I had 1 remove all, and 3 remove 1 conditions on low CD. Since mesmers give a ton of just random useless conditions from spec, you can never reliably remove the confusion. and they can get you up to 12 stacks in 1 burst easily.

The damage isnt that “OP”, its the fact that My removal skills all target bleeding, then vulnerability, then poison then burning, then cripple, then whatever they want after that. Confusion NEEDS to be right after bleeding, so that if no bleeds and 4 other conditions, it removes confusion.

Its utterly stupid to have 12 stacks of confusion, and my 3 single remove conditions remove 1 bleed stack, weakness, and a cripple.

Confusion isnt OP in itself, its the fact that there is a tier for conditional removals and they get removed in order of “importance,” Confusion is at the bottom of the list, so you can only remove it with a remove all, or if no other condition is on you

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Ok so im sick of this, confusion needs to be changed so that condition removal targets it after bleeding. Unless Anets planned counter to it is sit there like an idiot and do nothing/have 3 remove all conditions. You can get 12+ stacks against a mesmer pretty easily, you want to leave them doin high dmg, ok. But it needs to be prioritized for us when we try to remove it.

God knows when i get 12 stacks of confusion, I Want to remove weakness

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So...the WvW update...is that it?

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Culling was fixed. Good update.

Anything else … can come.

The fact WvW got an update = WvW will likely get updates again. Was just a kick off starter which solved a MAJOR mechanic issue.

We will get more, so the fact WvW is getting attention, and in the interview, Colin noted WvW will get attention all year, as will PvP. Ladder incoming, lots of items that will be refined as a solid base of what we need. I want armor skins too, but think, shinies are not as important as mechanics and easier to throw in later. Mechanics need the attention, and then when they are ready, can be on a more equal playing field and get some ‘shinies’.

Would love to have equal footing with the other game aspects, but mechanics are most important imho, and happy to have ‘some’ attention. Ascended gear needs to be addressed.

Guild wars 2 was made with Esports and PvP as its mainpoints. Then something happened (management made ascended gear happen/whatever) and now all they focus on is making content to make money.

its sad, but it is what it is. look at Spvp, its dead, they arent doing much of anything. couple new maps?

sigh, DAoC mmo guys are crowdfunding a new mmo, so that could be good RvR

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Can we please have SpVp type stats for WvW?

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I know the “trinity” wanted to be done away with, but as DMG and stats keep going up, its pretty much just glass cannon, and slightly less glass cannon.

Keeps getting worse with ascended armors too.

Why isnt WvW balanced like SPvP?

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Well, its been months

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lol..kitten ? really ?

what does that have to do with anything? Im talking about it being 7 months since release and they havent updated anything about the pvp aspects of this game.

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Well, its been months

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Not gonna lie I’m pretty burnt out. Waited for this patch and thought they would mix things up, bring new things to the table… but its just a very minor grindy addition for nothing really. WvW has so much potential, and it just gets dragged along

It really sucks that anet doesnt want to give WvW the attention it deserves.

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PvP seems too fast.

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no thats because pve players want HIGHER STATZZZZ so we keep getting more and more crit dmg and power… hence people die much faster

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Just ruined WvW for me

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I seriously hope that it’s not something that’s pervasive throughout WvW. 90% of my time is spent in WvW and this is the first time I’ve seen something like this first hand.

So you’re dead and they aren’t? Big deal, would that pic make a difference if it was 3 from the same server who killed you? A FFA is a FFA.

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WTB Yaks Bend

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omg they found out. Scatter!

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This month update preview kinda late?

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If they delay a reasonably sized update again I’ll probably play even less then the past two weeks. there’s been 0 updates to wvw (god forbid you play spvp)

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Kaineng: Let's Complete the Journey

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a truly epic voyage of transfers

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