I hope not. Raids are too elitist. There’s no reason to keep spending energy and resources on something that serves only a small faction of the game.
a lot of people do raids and ya’re a delusional to think raids aren’t necessary. they’re the endgame of zis game and they’re requested long ago before HoT. why people like ya exist that wish for others not to enjoy hard content? if ya’re afraid of elitists then don’t play with ’em but why the selfishness of bad players that want others to go down to their low skill and selfish level.
Story and open world is endgame content. Don’t you know anything about Guild Wars 2?
No, it’s not end game. it’s a start for expansion so ya can advance and access more content. Don’t be ridiculous. No one is going to repeat the same story over and over.
However, people do enjoy do raids multiple times.No Raids + No DPS Meters = No Forced Meta Builds
No Raids = people will ragequit and anet will lose their sustainers. good logic man.
No one is forcing ya to play raids nor force ya to use meta. Yer choice to leech but not giving endgame content is a failure for an expansion.The game did great before Raids! Numbers don’t lie!
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So great it did with the delusional elitism in dungeons and fractals.
At least now people know if they actually do good in pve content or not.
Story and open world is endgame content. Don’t you know anything about Guild Wars 2?
No, it’s not end game. it’s a start for expansion so ya can advance and access more content. Don’t be ridiculous. No one is going to repeat the same story over and over.
However, people do enjoy do raids multiple times.No Raids + No DPS Meters = No Forced Meta Builds
No Raids = people will ragequit and anet will lose their sustainers. good logic man.
No one is forcing ya to play raids nor force ya to use meta. Yer choice to leech but not giving endgame content is a failure for an expansion.
Story and open world is endgame content. Don’t you know anything about Guild Wars 2?
No, it’s not end game. it’s a start for expansion so ya can advance and access more content. Don’t be ridiculous. No one is going to repeat the same story over and over.
However, people do enjoy do raids multiple times.
I wanna know if there’ll be raids in the new expansion cuz I want to play new end game content in the expansion. If there’s just story and open world with mounts+elite specs but without raids then it’s not worth to buy an expansion without end game content.
Please give us more details what there’ll be in the expansion.
I’m not a lore person nor an open world person although the open world is the best of all MMO’s, however I play the game for raids and new fracs and challenge.
how thief, engi, ele, ranger benefit so much from condi damage while we’re with some kitten bleeding, a bit of torment and a low burn cuz of kittenty icd. also it should be for every stack fo torment should be burning. zis is the definition of class discrimination.
arena mother kittener net making kitten excuse to not make necro an optimal dps cuz of they force defensive mechanics on the class while they still don’t have focus fire survival and which other classes have. others can focus fire survival, optimal dps and tons of kitten while necros only have a bit more health than everyone and get nothing but being weak. what a kitten. necros are awesome but the devs are such kitten kittens.
ya’re the type of person who doesn’t understand in build diversity and only whine on kitten stuff. if ya don’t like berserker then play condition. what’s yer problem? so something ya don’t like must be removed? cry me a river. most of the raid bosses require power builds and condition builds are less efficient. even in nightmare and shatter cm modes condition builds are waste of time.
I was excited that we can use F1-5 without going into other modes, that we have all that torment, burning till i saw the torment applies burning but with kittening ICD of 3 SECONDS! like wtf? it’s suppose to be like deathly chill without icd and it was suppose to be our main damage dealer and anet had to ruin it. kitten necros in base, in HoT, and now at PoF. balancing everyone except necros and reves. thank you anet for that kittenty discrimination we get to face. we still have no real balance. I don’t care if necro is good in pvp and wvw. I mainly play PvE and I want to play my main class and I can’t cuz it’s too weak for raids and fracs. So wtf? I understand the nerf for deathly chill since it relies on ice bolts anyway. but are ya thinking of empowering the reaper for power spec? cuz I still don’t see it and it’s really low dps compared to other power builds.
I suggest to make zis icd in pvp to balance it but not in PvE. it’ll be just another cluster kitten in PvE.
Whoever doesn’t like the new fractal then don’t play it.
After so much time they finally made good hard interesting fractal and suddenly all the bad players whine.
Zis fractal is amazing. I rather prefer pugs to fail in all fractals tbh if they can’t maximize their role in the group then just let ’em leech with low level gameplay and low dps.
For the OP, go play some casual game if ya hate fractals and raids. too hard? maybe learn to play instead whine? just like Nemesis said, people are used to farming and then complain the content is too hard.
just dps, kill and move on. why waste potential dps???
That works for a few percent of the T4 fractal player base. For the average pug, a halfway competent healer is super valuable.
it’s not valuable at all. feels more like a leecher. people should understand simple pve fractal mechanics and not feed and facetank crap and synergize their rotation with the encounter and use builds that actually work against the encounter and not meta all the time. how druid will help at swamp or aquatic?
why would ya need a healer? better just take c druid. healer druids are basically leechers in fractals.
They do make a run much more relaxed. They are basically QoL assets, not “needed” ones. I always welcome a good druid who can out-heal Old Tom and the poison so you don’t have to spend time on activating the fan. I also stay close to them at Mai Trin’s or Molten Furnace’s bombardments. Even my thief can face-tank in fractals with a good druid.
i don’t even use the fan, and i don’t use a healer in the group. what’s the point in boring safe ways? just dps, kill and move on. why waste potential dps??? out healing and not doing damage is considered leech.
How do people learn fractals/raids when then the learning curve is life or death?
Well as mentioned by others, low level fractals are not as life and death as some make them out to be. Most veteran fractal players went in blind and had to figure all the stuff out on their own. This has become a lot easier since there is guides and tips for every fractal out there (and many frustrating and buggy encounters were redesigned and/or fixed).
I’d say up to fractal level 20 you could just wing it, maybe warn people you are inexperienced but most won’t care since they’ll be just as inexperienced most of the time.
Fractal level 21-40 can prbably be done without any guides (all fractals can be done without guides, I’m talking from a pure trial and error frustration perspective) if you are a decent player who notices mechanics and memorizes well. Otherwise I’d check some guides for fractals which trouble you.
50+ you are getting in an area where the amount of fractals run should provide you with a good knowledge foundation and it becomes more about improving gameplay.
75+ requires full ascended armor in general for the AR. Chances are very likely you’ll have the playerskill and knowledge to complete these fractals once you get this far.
Raids is a different matter, but there is sufficient guides and trial runs for new players to get started.
I’m trying to get into fractals and raids, but when each person has a specific person role to play and a single person isn’t doing their part (aka me) … the team fails. I feel intimidated to get into that part of the game because I don’t know what to do.
No reason to be intimidated. The scaling is not to bad. See my recommendations for how to approachs different fractal level/tiers.
I’m also finding that in certain cases these are becoming a cookie-cutter approach; your team has to use a Mesmer, Druid, two warriors, and a Guardian or it will fail. There doesn’t seem to be room for the random necro or elementalist.
There are team compositions that work better than others due to good synergy. This has improved a lot ever since vanilla fractals where you absolutely wanted a guardian in each group. Druid healer is probably the only constant which most people want to take along now, not because it’s required, but because it allows people to make more mistakes (and gives a party wide damage buff).
Current meta parties usually look like this:
- druid healer
- warrior PS
- mesmer
- 2 dps
why would ya need a healer? better just take c druid. healer druids are basically leechers in fractals.
ya’re definitely a leecher. ya don’t want to make effort or contribute efficiently to the team and want people to take ya in? if ya want to leech then make yer own group of leechers that invest only in their “favorite” gameplay.
elitism in a nutshell
class discrimination in a nutshell
power abusers in LFG. pugs are horrible and cancerous in general. the pve community likes to abuse power when they’re at fault.
Our first 5 man VG: https://youtu.be/IaVMwT2Shoc
maybe learn how the game works?
LFG is filled with bad players that have no idea what they’re doing and do like 1/3 of the dps they suppose to do.
subject 6 is about dps and interrupting him while he blocks which warr with might signet is needed or jsut take 2 necros to epidemic to kill all adds.
just use sweet and spicy butternut. it’s butter out of nut and not milk. so ya don’t have to worry about cholesterol, pus, antibiotics and lactose at all. nuts are high in protein and omega 3.
I tried to join a group that wanted a dps build. I joined as a necro and got kicked for it. They told me “necro isn’t real dps”. those pugs think they’re so pro by using “best” classes/builds but in reality they’d do less than a necro. usually the people that discriminate classes are self proclaimed pro players and in reality they’re just the sheep of the meta industry that didn’t understand the point at all in their build or the game at all.
like the cat golem in uncategorized. as a necro i did 27k and ele did 23k but that boss was a burst and i still managed to do more than him.
elitism in a nutshell.
and in gw2 a lot of pugs play worse than pugs in wow.
also the community is small so it’s harder to find groups in general.
there’s still class discrimination although the classes like dh dd and necro can be really useful and strong but the mainstream that got carried by pros think they’re pro and discriminate people based on crap.
Searching for players is another subforum, you should move there to find ppl for ur guild.
i don’t search for any people. just wanted to share my video how i play necro in raids so people won’t get discouraged playing it.
any class can be a dps.
play whatever ya want.
+ rotation isn’t optimal (check Farbstoff’s video from LN)
+ many strange occurences like using gravedigger without deimos nearby, walking around a black just to use the nightfall instead of swapping to scepter to keep the damage flowing, fight started with scepter etc
I tend to get confused on rotation in fights.
Lol this video does the opposite of what the OP intended…dps is really bad and having bgdm on cleave makes it a lot more funny. Why would have it on cleave anyway, dps on prides? lul
It’s about damage done and epidemic on the white mantle.
if ya’re so pro, post yer own necromancer video.
You should really consider casting your shroud 5+4 combo outside the other combo fields and move into the bosses’ hitbox to make sure u get the chilling bolts.
I tried
It’s nothing about showing off since it’s just was a PuG casual run.
I know I’m not that good of a player but I want to show some basic things for the fellow necromancers who are struggling with PvE and getting accepted into raids and fractals.
ya have to accept different builds and adapt to the situation to which build to use or what class to use. ya should pay attention to the mechanics of the fight and of the build ya use. not saying min max but at least aim to the right direction. use the correct build for the correct encounter and not what ya feel is right. example Condition-PS at Mattias and Power-PS at Keep Construct.
It stucks in the transfering, then it gets out of the game and still in the same world.
he’s either a troll or a feminist
change the 3rd trait in curses instead blinding=chill with 3s icd, make poison do 33% more damage.
in blood magic replace 1 useless trait with 33% more damage in bleeding.
make all classes to use their finishers on their combo fields over others regardless who put combo field first.
empower scepter 2 3 and dagger 5 the amount of bleeds, torment.
give the aa of scepter first and 2nd strike 2% life force gain each.
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If you’re gonna post made up dps numbers in screenshots then get logs or vids to prove it.
More Alacrity wouldn’t of made enough difference to make it seem any less kitten and the player actually spent some time on Necro before, this run was aimed at him specifically trying Nec in all wings and resulted in Nec being useless literally everywhere.Stop comparing benchmarks and spreadsheets to reality. Necro can do more than ele in certain bosses. Stop with the delusional elitism. Or do ya need Nemesis to debunk zis kitten?
Ya’ll never do a dps of benchmark golem in a raid, Never.
According to Nemesis, you can have 100% DPS-uptime without Ice Bows, so this post is useless.
no it was according to nike. nemesis just quoted what the elitists said in his videos.
ya took him out of context.actually pre icebow nerf you had 100 dps uptime but thats only because the icebow used to oneshot bosses….
in crap content like dungeon with 5 stacks of stability on bosses that will appear only after cc. so the freeze the boss for 5 seconds and it melts, especially big hitbox.
but now nerfed, different cc bar. bosses actually fight and mlg but still nice for necros especially for big hit box for the extra bleeds!
https://dviw3bl0enbyw.cloudfront.net/uploads/forum_attachment/file/237256/gw287.jpg
If you’re gonna post made up dps numbers in screenshots then get logs or vids to prove it.
More Alacrity wouldn’t of made enough difference to make it seem any less kitten and the player actually spent some time on Necro before, this run was aimed at him specifically trying Nec in all wings and resulted in Nec being useless literally everywhere.Stop comparing benchmarks and spreadsheets to reality. Necro can do more than ele in certain bosses. Stop with the delusional elitism. Or do ya need Nemesis to debunk zis kitten?
Ya’ll never do a dps of benchmark golem in a raid, Never.
Have you seen Mursaat Overseer?
have ya seen funny?
https://dviw3bl0enbyw.cloudfront.net/uploads/forum_attachment/file/237256/gw287.jpg
If you’re gonna post made up dps numbers in screenshots then get logs or vids to prove it.
More Alacrity wouldn’t of made enough difference to make it seem any less kitten and the player actually spent some time on Necro before, this run was aimed at him specifically trying Nec in all wings and resulted in Nec being useless literally everywhere.Stop comparing benchmarks and spreadsheets to reality. Necro can do more than ele in certain bosses. Stop with the delusional elitism. Or do ya need Nemesis to debunk zis kitten?
Ya’ll never do a dps of benchmark golem in a raid, Never.
According to Nemesis, you can have 100% DPS-uptime without Ice Bows, so this post is useless.
no it was according to nike. nemesis just quoted what the elitists said in his videos.
ya took him out of context.
people are just delusional elitists…..
https://dviw3bl0enbyw.cloudfront.net/uploads/forum_attachment/file/237256/gw287.jpg
If you’re gonna post made up dps numbers in screenshots then get logs or vids to prove it.
More Alacrity wouldn’t of made enough difference to make it seem any less kitten and the player actually spent some time on Necro before, this run was aimed at him specifically trying Nec in all wings and resulted in Nec being useless literally everywhere.
Stop comparing benchmarks and spreadsheets to reality. Necro can do more than ele in certain bosses. Stop with the delusional elitism. Or do ya need Nemesis to debunk zis kitten?
Ya’ll never do a dps of benchmark golem in a raid, Never.
Jade Maw is boring and all the noobs can do it easily.
Make some cool boss kitten and mechanics.
Make Necromancer great again!
wow has dps meter and zis game doesn’t. older system has and new doesn’t. anet are lazy clowns.
The OP wants the standard for how buffs work to shift from the dungeon/PvP model to raid configuration. However, this would have no effect on FotM/Dungeons/PvP, would have minimal impact in open PvE, and would have a negative impact on Wvw, where boon sharing is already too easy. In raids, it would negatively impact players who want to play something other than the max DPS professions, while the benefit would likely be a very small gain in clear times for maxed out groups.
This change would also foster the perception that raids are ANet’s fair-haired child, at the expense of everything else. Whether this is true or not, there’s already too much perception that raids have had a negative impact on the game.
No, thanks.
People are more limited when there’s a 2nd Phalanx that takes a spot or a revenant.
1 Druid can’t be fully efficient when he only empowers 5 people instead 10. Chrono is also not fully efficient when most of his buffs are for 5 people.
There would be more variety in 10 boon share. it has no impact on wvw.
it should specific to raids.
ya could take a condi druid and auromancer ele healer instead healer druid.
It’d make:
1 tank=chrono/guard/warrior/necro
1 healer=druid/ele/necro/guard
1 support=dh/chrono/rev/druid+ps viper/ps zerk
dps=warrior, dh, thief, engi, druid, ele, necro.
As long as anet keep with zis without dps meter in raids, people will still hallucinate they do 20k-40k dps in raids.
DPS meter is required in PvE encounters.
Boon share has already destroyed WvW and you want it to be more broken? Hellz no.
Even WoW raids require multiple tanks and healers.
huh?
first of all i meant in raids for 10 people.
WvW should be 10 people boon share as well. If ya don’t like it in wvw then we could get a mastery to give boons to 10 people only in raids.
In wow ya need 2 tanks cuz ya tank 2 bosses or boss requires 2 tanks. need more healers because bosses are more deadly.
before jumping into conclusion op no no look outside the box.
You can go with 1 Chrono, 1 PS, 1 Druid and 1 Rev and do it perfectly fine.
Each one of ‘em still buffs 5 people so what’s the point.
if they do that, they will have to buff the boss to double the hp. because even now it is quite strong already.
so adding another dpsers means to double the hp? do the math please.
because support in GW2 is a fundamentally different mechanic than it is in other games, and its a role that people like to fill
In World of Warcraft ya can buff 40 people.
if you prefer wow’s mechanics, play wow instead
here’s a kitten who defends the game the way it is.
It’s about making the game better and to give critics.
There’s no best DPS since each boss has mechanics. It’s really primitive to make it 5 people buff just to force that ideology of different composition which i don’t see any different. People still take chrono druid and warr. so what’s the point. It’s really stupid decision anet made while all other games can buff entire raid which can have variety of compositions.
why would they do it? I don’t enjoy looking for a lot of support.