Guild Wars 2

I don’t care about ele burn nerf, but anet just show thier kitten logic system there is op burn on ele we nerf it there is op burn on guardian we stay at is it gg anet every patch ele is nerfed more and more since beta

other classes nerf ? only memser invis other classes not nerfed and … like 10 nerfs to ele ^^ ( its hurt even harder in pve)

anet just show once again they hate only ele in this game, better remove this class next time ty

Glitchfull.5826:

Dynia.9574:

Prism.5649:

Love the video, but I don’t understand your title. Are you complaining about when you get double teamed or excited about a close 1v1?

no, its ridiculous how you need to spam buttons as ele and make combos etc when some ez class like ranger click 2 buttons and deal 5x more dmg than you xD

look how combos looks as d/d ele and how combo looks as ranger ^^

Yeah . . . no. Ranger does no where near as much damage as the ele while simultaneously surviving. Oh wow, they have 1 skill that does a lot of damage! Too bad it’s damage split over a channel and is one of the easiest things in the game to block. Elementalist combos are easy to do and honestly you just need to apply burning and blast finish fire fields for might. Ranger is a hell of a lot harder to play than ele for the simple fact that ranger is in such a terrible place right now they have to completely out class their opponent by such a huge margin. Stop spewing 2 year old hate bandwagon things that are outdated and do not apply today.

If you are losing to rangers as an ele? You need to practice . . . a lot.

Anyways though, still an entertaining video.

ranger is harder to play than ele ? nice troll over there 0/10 try harder

Prism.5649:

Love the video, but I don’t understand your title. Are you complaining about when you get double teamed or excited about a close 1v1?

no, its ridiculous how you need to spam buttons as ele and make combos etc when some ez class like ranger click 2 buttons and deal 5x more dmg than you xD

look how combos looks as d/d ele and how combo looks as ranger ^^

cause anet don’t know anything about balance of thier own game also they don’t want any1 play ele any more

don’t even bother to use Tempest skills they are so trashy maybe expect heal and one shout that give you 4s immune to projectile

Shouts probably wont replace Cantrips

Being locked out of an attunement for 16+ seconds means very little use of overcharge, being locked out of attunements for longer than you already are is poor game design when it comes to the functionality of the elementalist also you can be stunned on this crap

Grimreaper.5370:

I can’t help but find the tempest design to look underwhelming from a PvP perspective…

-Shouts probably wont replace Cantrips

-Being locked out of an attunement for 16+ seconds means very little use of overcharge, being locked out of attunements for longer than you already are is poor game design when it comes to the functionality of the elementalist.

-The majority didn’t want warhorn, we got warhorn. Hoped that warhorn could at least provide a unique playstyle, warhorn turns out to be another support based off hand weapon which doesn’t seem to offer a whole lot different compared to focus or OH dagger besides a water field and some ally boon application.

-If I try and live in a delusional fantasy world then maybe wash the pain away will see some use but lets be honest whos going to want to get rid of healing signet? Even if Wash the Pain away turns out to actually be decent when considering your allies, how many people will be selfless enough to use it?

Like a lot of you competitive spvp people I was really hoping to break out of the support role and play around with a sword main hand… I can live with this not being the case but after also seeing what the Temepest brings to the table I’m left very disappointed, I was hoping for something a bit more complex.

Anet, I plead you! Please reconsider the route you’re taking tempest!

100% agree

4 it was bad almost all skills are useless overlord is joke lock you 20 sec in 1 attu and too ez to stun

silvermember.8941:

I hope you realize celestial Nerf is only for PvP not pve.

and who cares about trash pve ?

TooBz.3065:

Neko.9021:

You should uninstall the game and leave to go get some perspective. Such anger over a video game is unhealthy.

I think he has a valid point. This upcoming patch has at least four substantial nerfs to the standard elementalist play. Therefore, I think it’s very reasonable to determine that the game is no longer fun to play.

One of the key problems that I see with the upcoming changes is that they seem to take a lot of the fun out of the game in exchange for making it easier to balance PvP. Obviously some people will decide that it’s not worth it.

Also, speaking vehemently and expressing displeasure is not unhealthy. It’s cathartic. What’s unhealthy is bottling up your feelings or saying things deliberately designed to provoke people who are upset.

I just have enough nerfs in this game, every patch in this kitteny game ele was nerfed since beta while every other classes get boosted and boosted all time, just look on warriors now, ele didn’t get SINGLE boost since beta, you learn to your hard combos etc while kittenY ranger press 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 do nothing just press 2 and deal much more dmg than your hard made combos this is ridiculous and im done with this game, anet have no idea how to balance this game

I played elementalist and memser mainly since beta, every kitten patch I see nerfs to ele more and more, WTF is this kitten rly , I have enough of this kitteny game, I can uninstall this crap game with clear mind and 0 regrets

1. Elemental Attunement is now GM core traint can’t be used any more great nerf gz that make elementalist total useless
2. celestial stats will be nerfed GJ
3. air is nerfed to the ground too

kitten you arena net we all know you don’t even play your own game and we all know you can’t balance your trash game

personally I hate gs for mesmer, but im weird and its only me, I use sword/pistol staff and bunker build

i don’t rly care about it, im weird tank mesmer who don’t use shaters ^^

how you can play on 5fps ? Im raging when im on 25 already or lower xD

target system should be fixed for memser, every time you make clone taget is lost or jump randomly on you again or any of your clone. tracked memser is easy to kill that why we use invis

Unanimous.1486:

Remove thief stealth skills, add a class skill “stealth”, which will be next to “steal”.
New stealth will last indefinitely, costs 2 initiative to activate, takes 2.33 initiative per second (so in total they’ll lose 1 initiative per second after the natural regeneration of the stat).

No more “I burst, I fail, I stealth, I run”.
This will force them to consider when to use stealth defensively or offensively.

Problem solved.

lol you rly want give us perm invis with out any cd ? xD

natural reg is enough to hold it enough + signet + patience traint + reg from another traint xD I love that idea perm invis to my p/p build 3>

Otaur.9268:

Dynia.9574:

Can some1 explain me why ppls think thief is op cause I rly don’t get it.

1. My memser kill them easy trolling around with clones no matter what build he is backstabber or pistol whisp or pistols or what ever (lot of tou)

2. My bunker engi laugh a lot too even if 2 thiefs jump on me reflect kill them when I do nothing just tank (lot of tou and hp)

3. My guardian loling around too cause they can’t do NOTHING to him, guardian just over heal their dmg (lot of tou and healing)

4. My necro conditioner/tank just make on them 10 bleeds and they mostly gone with doing nothing (lot of tou hp and condi dmg)

5. Warrior half bunker with shouts loling around too cause heal > thier dmg (lot of tou healing and hp and condi dmg)

6. As plaing as thief there is no way to kill any bunker in 1v1 while you get owned badly tell me more thiefs is op when there is immortal bunkers in 1v3 in game

7. Only class that got right to use berserker is thief, rest of you change your builds a bit and you will get profit, cause if you play glass cannon other glass canon kill you easy, don’t QQ if you got 0 def and hp you get owned by 1 combo from thief cause my heros got lot of tou and hp and can can even 3 thief when jump on me easy
thief glass canon > any other glass canon in game

Video or its not true… Just saying. Also, being forced Toughness / Healing on all characters to deal with 1 profession? That’s not a good thing.

he is r27 so its not that bad …
if I catch any 1v1 situation with my memser or guardian vs high rank thief, I will post too but it will be the same. With engi thief kill him self etc etc etc

3:34 rank show

lol this guy use almost same build what I do, I just have shield cd traint > prot every time I get crit

Berial.4860:

Karl McLain.5604:

Berial.4860:

Oh, a ‘red’ post. So when’s the next balance patch again?

Probably with Wintersday.

SWEET! I love short waits much more than long ones!

yes and expect some nerfs =D

I didn’t even think that I will alive day that ppls will scream on forum that ele is op xD

mass invis is op on spvp when ppls can target you, they lsost target and get confused badly which of you are real

Kaleygh.1524:

Dynia.9574:

ok next class I took necro heavy conditioner/tank with mm build killed ppls they called me op

I actually thought you are serious untill I read this lol.
I`m willing to call you out on this and show you that your “Hair conditioner/tank mm” can be facerolled by any class, no matter the spec.
You`re just another thief wannabe pro who just spills crap on the forum trying to defend their garbage class. Go in wvw and tell me how well you can fight a thief when you only get to see them for 2 seconds because of Anets crappy engine.
You also mention that thieves are the only ones allowed to wear berserker gear… this just goes to show how clueless and biased you are.
PS – A conditioner is something that improves the quality of another material. I doubt condition damage has anything to do with that)

you can 1v1 any time with my necro and you will tell me after is he rly that weak …
I can change minons to any other skills, main point is he is conditioner who stand long time minons is only for life steal

I don’t def thiefs, I just talking about balance and ppls QQ if they nerf invis is better for me, I just said about what ppls do they get owned by anything and said it op and need nerf

and ppls need rly end with “omg he used this he is noob” minons is rly good if you know how to use them p/p on thief too

and btw I never have probs with thiefs even they invis too much on spvp or wvwvw, I kill them like flys, they just can’t kill any my hero on 3 hits combo (I dodge or def it or absorb dmg etc) depons what class im playing, i just KNOW how to COUNTER them that all

I play memser thief (without any invis with p/p build) guardian necro and engi for now and sometimes with my warrior with sword/sword for fun ^^

Maugetarr.6823:

This is not a sarcastic question, but can AN rename the thief the assassin as it was in GW1? It feels as though a lot of complaints come from “thief hits too hard/thief has too much stealth.” Renaming it would emphasize that that’s what it is supposed to do. When the names of some of the abilities were taken from the assassin abilities, I don’t know why the name of the class needed to be changed.

my thief should be called gunslinger cause I don’t use any invis but lot of dodges ^^

jkctmc.8754:

Dynia.9574:

Rezzet.3614:

so apparently me having 3k defense 1026 healing and 25k hp is glass cannon ?

so you are simply bad pvp player, even other glass canon can counter thief if you KNOW how to FIGHT them, end of story I repeat once again thief is not op, ppls said on realise gw 2 that war with 100b is op now they learned how to fight and say they are weak -.-

There are rly more op classes in game than thief.

And one more stop QQ about invis I play thief without ANY invis and still can kill ppls easy on wvwvw as my p/p \ shotbow thief (and yes I don’t play as thief only memser for example is way more op than thief or even guardian)

Pistol/Pistol is crap damage, and you’re not killing anything but alts with Cluster Bomb, or the rushing zerg who refuses to dodge.

You can’t judge Thief based off useless weapons. Put Dagger/Dagger in your hands, and give it a spin.

On my Thief, me and two other thieves killed a zerg of 25 people because they couldn’t lock us down. NO thief, hell no class should ever die to AEs, and a smart thief will slot sword in one of his primary hands to escape a lot of detriments with the number “2” ability. My Thief is Sword/Dagger, sometimes Sword/Pistol, and Shortbow. You can not lock me down, or kill me unless I make a mistake.

Tell it to ppls I killed with p/p …
p/p crap dmg ? 5-8k is low with every unload + I can spam it all the time pls …
I stay with p/p, cause p/p will get boost and d/d and invis get nerf and I will laugh a lot im skillfull without invis

dodge build > invis build anywhere any time
yes, you killed 25 ppls ofc you trolling to get thiefs nerf

try to use stun build on your thief vs my memser (2 stun breakers make me laugh even more) I will laugh a lot, I killed already 35r+ backstabers thiefs with him and they called me totally op class (if you tell me r35 on spvp is low or noob I will laugh on your face)

Once again ppls who die to backstab thiefs are just bad pvp players who don’t know what every class can do, I played already every class I know almost every build in game with every class and I know how to counter it when to dodge etc. Ofc it not always get 100% win cause some classes is better vs other classes etc.

Another thing its not about balance or build but about players skills, what skislls they pick what they do,what timing on skill they choose etc. PvP now fast like in dota 2 one small mistake or a bit slower reacion some times cost you life or even cast stun breaker 0,5 sec too late.

…………………….

I played ele on gw2 realise on spvp killed ppls they called me op,
later long time break from pvp I took thief killed ppls they called me op …
ok next class I took necro heavy conditioner/tank with mm build killed ppls they called me op
next class I check was total bunker engi point defender tanked 3 ppls easy they called me op … dafaq engi op ?!
another class guardian, I killed some ppls with him mostly thiefs but not only they called me op again … dafaq ? ALL class op ?
next was fun warrior s/s bleeder with shouts for heal killed some ppls with bleed + tank heal with shouts they called me op (shaman amulet on warrior ftw ^^)
next class memser I play now, Im killing r35+ players easy on spvp when im 15 they call me op and they think I play on new acc cause that rang play that good -.- another class is op ?!

Ok guys I classes I played is op … when all classes is op game is balanced ? -.-

Its rly all depons on your build skill and timing what you do, thiefs is not that op if you know how to fight them
If invis will be nerfed is ok for me xD I don’t use it for my thiefs dodges is just better for me cause I know how to use them vs most classes already boost p/p you are welcome to do it :]

sssssssomg thief with knight amulet lol …

p/p is rly good on wvwvw if you know how to play but its crap on spvp cause zerk amulet give ~300 vit instant 30% crit rate its rly make difference in dmg

that why bunker is so imba in spvp but bad in wvwvw cause glass cannons hit more in wvwvw

last time other site called me hacker cause I killed ppls with p/p adn run away from full zerg without any invis

Im using p/p and I can tell the main problem isin’t dmg but horrible 1 2 4 an 5 skill. all are useless skills, im only use unload nothing else cause all cost lot of invicjative and better get max dps than this crap skills.

1 skill is too low dmg and too low bleed to spam it
2 skill is joke 5 stack might be ok but its too short in dps better spam unload
4 skill same better spam unload cost too much for too short dura
5 skill is horrible too cost too much and its melee

Overall that setup is like ranger shortbow one they spam 1 only for dps we spam 3 for dps

This skill should a. cost less b. get better effects c. need total rework to get better cc or dmg or both

Rezzet.3614:

so apparently me having 3k defense 1026 healing and 25k hp is glass cannon ?

so you are simply bad pvp player, even other glass canon can counter thief if you KNOW how to FIGHT them, end of story I repeat once again thief is not op, ppls said on realise gw 2 that war with 100b is op now they learned how to fight and say they are weak -.-

There are rly more op classes in game than thief.

And one more stop QQ about invis I play thief without ANY invis and still can kill ppls easy on wvwvw as my p/p \ shotbow thief (and yes I don’t play as thief only memser for example is way more op than thief or even guardian)

Otaur.9268:

Dynia.9574:

Can some1 explain me why ppls think thief is op cause I rly don’t get it.

1. My memser kill them easy trolling around with clones no matter what build he is backstabber or pistol whisp or pistols or what ever (lot of tou)

2. My bunker engi laugh a lot too even if 2 thiefs jump on me reflect kill them when I do nothing just tank (lot of tou and hp)

3. My guardian loling around too cause they can’t do NOTHING to him, guardian just over heal their dmg (lot of tou and healing)

4. My necro conditioner/tank just make on them 10 bleeds and they mostly gone with doing nothing (lot of tou hp and condi dmg)

5. Warrior half bunker with shouts loling around too cause heal > thier dmg (lot of tou healing and hp and condi dmg)

6. As plaing as thief there is no way to kill any bunker in 1v1 while you get owned badly tell me more thiefs is op when there is immortal bunkers in 1v3 in game

7. Only class that got right to use berserker is thief, rest of you change your builds a bit and you will get profit, cause if you play glass cannon other glass canon kill you easy, don’t QQ if you got 0 def and hp you get owned by 1 combo from thief cause my heros got lot of tou and hp and can can even 3 thief when jump on me easy
thief glass canon > any other glass canon in game

Video or its not true… Just saying. Also, being forced Toughness / Healing on all characters to deal with 1 profession? That’s not a good thing.

I don’t care you believe or not, my build my cause, I won’t share with every1 to use another good builds, think yourself what is good.

And I didn’t said use tou/healing combo, just add some tou.

Just check some tpvp and tell me do thief can kill some pro bunker guardian 1v1 when he can hold 3 ppls on him and its not only guardian.

I repeat once again you are glass canon, you will die on 2-3 hits not only from thiefs but from other glasses too

I have 0 probs with killing thiefs

Can some1 explain me why ppls think thief is op cause I rly don’t get it.

1. My memser kill them easy trolling around with clones no matter what build he is backstabber or pistol whisp or pistols or what ever (lot of tou)

2. My bunker engi laugh a lot too even if 2 thiefs jump on me reflect kill them when I do nothing just tank (lot of tou and hp)

3. My guardian loling around too cause they can’t do NOTHING to him, guardian just over heal their dmg (lot of tou and healing)

4. My necro conditioner/tank just make on them 10 bleeds and they mostly gone with doing nothing (lot of tou hp and condi dmg)

5. Warrior half bunker with shouts loling around too cause heal > thier dmg (lot of tou healing and hp and condi dmg)

6. As plaing as thief there is no way to kill any bunker in 1v1 while you get owned badly tell me more thiefs is op when there is immortal bunkers in 1v3 in game

7. Only class that got right to use berserker is thief, rest of you change your builds a bit and you will get profit, cause if you play glass cannon other glass canon kill you easy, don’t QQ if you got 0 def and hp you get owned by 1 combo from thief cause my heros got lot of tou and hp and can can even 3 thief when jump on me easy
thief glass canon > any other glass canon in game

30+ ppls could not get my thief on wvwvw and I don’t have any invis, so its not invis problem

I use p/p and shortbow on wvwv with LOT OF inicjative regen and like 30 dodges in row run away from zerg all day and they call me HAKER

Can some1 explain me why ppls think thief is op cause I rly don’t get it.

1. My memser kill them easy trolling around with clones no matter what build he is backstabber or pistol whisp or pistols or what ever (lot of tou)

2. My bunker engi laugh a lot too even if 2 thiefs jump on me reflect kill them when I do nothing just tank (lot of tou and hp)

3. My guardian loling around too cause they can’t do NOTHING to him, guardian just over heal their dmg (lot of tou and healing)

4. My necro conditioner/tank just make on them 10 bleeds and they mostly gone with doing nothing (lot of tou hp and condi dmg)

5. Warrior half bunker with shouts loling around too cause heal > thier dmg (lot of tou healing and hp and condi dmg)

6. As plaing as thief there is no way to kill any bunker in 1v1 while you get owned badly tell me more thiefs is op when there is immortal bunkers in 1v3 in game

7. Only class that got right to use berserker is thief, rest of you change your builds a bit and you will get profit, cause if you play glass cannon other glass canon kill you easy, don’t QQ if you got 0 def and hp you get owned by 1 combo from thief cause my heros got lot of tou and hp and can can even 3 thief when jump on me easy
thief glass canon > any other glass canon in game

ok now tell me engi is bad after that video xD

im sorry what ? 1500 dmg its high ? or I miss something

ruby orbs any time any place any fight for dps build thief but its only my opinion

Give you good balance between your main stats power and crit rate + give you 4 or 5% more (don’t remember it was 4 or 5) crit dmg
This 5% is ALWAYS added to your dps and scholar give your only 10% when your hp is almost full, when you get dmged you lost your 10% dmg, with orbs you always got boost no matter of your hp state

and rune of scholar is 2g each one and orbs its like 8 silver per one (just a small + when you are lack of money ;p)

I would say x/x/x/30/30 with shortbow as your 2nd weapon high indicative regen + 3skill from bow = profit with unlimited dodges

unload is ok skill, main problem of p/p build that other skills is totally useless on that setup so ppls with p/p just spam 3 :P

this should rework 2 4 skill not only boost to dmg but give other effect more usefull effects like idk some good CC like criple or chilled maybe or confused something like this

Auesis.7301:

Remove stealth -> remove Thief. Literally no point in a Thief existing without it, because without it, every other class can do a given task better.

Just refund me all of my equipment, gold, gems, skill points and items and give me an Assassin instead.

Don’t get me wrong you will call me noob or troll but you guys know what ?
Im thief who don’t using ANY invis skill and use I just use more dodges replace on that so yeah, Im theif and im 100% for nerf invis for that class.

1st of all thiefs is not op …
2nd of all 2 back stabs ? you kidding me right ? its your own fault you get kille you didn’t pay attention
3 of all if you think thief is op you never saw totally pro guardian with proper build on spvp

go to mist > go portal in mist you are in LA lol

every time when daily reset you get 60 tokens

Im sure you KNOW nothing about your class …

Guardian is melee class only sir ? its warrior like sir ? RIGHT

so tell me why half weapons and skills are MAGIC (that you said caster or mage lol) alike ?!

even he use plate armor dosen’t mean he don’t use caster alike skills (staff scepter and focus its melee class weapons ? its like caster weapons like >_< ) + its already one of best classes on spvp

we need any lfg cause COF is bugged ALL time

same with cof we need more topic about it some maybe arena make proper dung finder or remove de chain and make gates always open

need more ppls use it

+1

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cof is bugged also ALL THE TIME dungeon finder would solove that problem

how long game already have ?

cof and arah still bugging and we can’t enter ALL THE time, other ppls from other server who have this not bugged can open but nooo we can’t looking for group on other server and don’t have dung finder …

and yes im anger when I lloking for party more than 10 min (tried 1h today, but noo cof is bugged and can’t go overflow + can’t catch ppls from other servers) when with dung finder would take 5 min MAX

cof in bugged on deso like 3 days and no1 cares,
rly priv servers got less bugs

tried to find party on Map chat got “this msg was supressed atc and can’t type more” gz

well, I soled also underwater champ with 6 minons near him also centaur archer boss with 3 minos archer near him who also resped all time (same with fish under water) cave troll some harpy champ spider champ list is long so I dunno, I don’t have time to record all fights -.- edit it and other too lazy for it xD

I also use dodge what ever animations they have so they miss

I will try dungeons soon (not solo ofc im not masochist )