I love how DR acts like they don’t run back to cannon range in open field fights.
There isn’t anyone manning either of those cannons. I know thinking is hard for you, but I didn’t know you were blind as well.
l2read
please tell me in what part of that sentence did I say those cannons were manned?
also isn’t the fact that they’re manning siege while sitting comfortably inside that group of lvl 82 guards pathetic enough?
these kinds of responses are why we laugh at you
Saint i dont even see why youre arguing with them
They complaining about the use of siege…in world versus world
Like really?
First time i’ve done this!
Thankyou for letting us move in so soon DH <3 I think it looks better in red
Mmmm yummy DH borderlands
DR last on reset weekend!?
IoJ first!?
Whats going on!
Had a lot of fun holding Lake in DH borderlands, but once TRIBO and the Small Flame zerg from EB came, it wasnt much longer until we capped the whole borderlands!
The screenshot you posted says it all. You can’t take a single thing from DR so you hit the empty DH borderlands and cap empty keeps to get a lead.
So the 20~DH with 4 golems that we wiped on their hills makes their borderlands empty?
I’m confused where you think we had 20 on our boarderland, because I wided with that group and we had at max 13 vs the 15+ of your GEN guild and all the superior arrows you had. Also most of the keeps you took with 35+ had 2-3 defenders.
We specifically got 6 superior arrow carts once i scouted your golems at garrison!
20 may have been an exaggeration, but you guys put up way more of a fight than DR does during this time.
Props to sticking in there even against all odds!
Mmmm yummy DH borderlands
DR last on reset weekend!?
IoJ first!?
Whats going on!
Had a lot of fun holding Lake in DH borderlands, but once TRIBO and the Small Flame zerg from EB came, it wasnt much longer until we capped the whole borderlands!
The screenshot you posted says it all. You can’t take a single thing from DR so you hit the empty DH borderlands and cap empty keeps to get a lead.
So the 20~DH with 4 golems that we wiped on their hills makes their borderlands empty?
Mmmm yummy DH borderlands
DR last on reset weekend!?
IoJ first!?
Whats going on!
Had a lot of fun holding Lake in DH borderlands, but once TRIBO and the Small Flame zerg from EB came, it wasnt much longer until we capped the whole borderlands!
STOP FIGHTING YOU GUYS
Theres enough ioj love to go around!
Of all matchups, this is easily my favourite one
Goodluck everyone! Bring that double team, we can take it
Just PD from Darkhaven and us, come onnnnn n IOJ wheres your representatives in fight night
Fellbladeeee? Joeeeey?
We should acknowledge that references made to DH in regards to the above are probably, reasonably limited to a guild or individuals within a guild + groupies, and not representative of the server’s attitude as a whole. That’s what I take out of this from reading, and from experience.
When its a commander from their biggest and most known guild…It kinda does reflect on them as a whole, why has he not been outed as a cheat by his server yet? Do they like getting towers/keeps unfairly? They know who he is, we know, everyone knows!
Anyway, ive slowly been getting back into commanding, i have missed it a lot! Though as stated above, it is VERY demoralizing losing anything fully upgraded, especially your garrison when you should have kept it.
good job on our garrison there DH
Im sure that was pure ‘skill’ like always with the hard objectives, apart from the obvious use of-
Good fun all day
Dude, the first time we came to Garri, or the second? I have never been hit by so many AC’s and ballistas in this game. How many did you guys have?!?!?! Then capping in the Lords Room, and still getting pelted by arrows. >.< My poor little Asuran body couldn’t handle any more, so I had to log.
Have fun capping everything tonight, I noticed you already have a head start on EB.
BTW, it does take skill to take a fully fortified keep from someone who has the advantage.
Not to take away from [abys] too much, you guys are coordinated
But with how well our garrison was sieged, and the complaints and evidence about certain things makes it difficult to be humble in defeat.
You guys have pulled 20k ahead, before we may have barely beat you, but now its near impossible!
So DH does NOT like 6man attempts on keeps
So many still roaming, so little of us left
good job on our garrison there DH
Im sure that was pure ‘skill’ like always with the hard objectives, apart from the obvious use of-
Good fun all day
DH Omegas under oil #thuglyf
So much shiney.
Let us get our borderlands back already dammit!!
Are there any DH left that care about morals, or playing fair?
How is this commander still not banned?
Congrats on having to cheat your way through our defenses
We cant report him as easily, its up to DH to do it.
Its all the more funny because thats what you have to resort too :\
Way to ruin the game
you must not have any AC abilities, 1 that is well within range prior to having ac range buff. 2, you just need to get the circle on the edge, the radius is pretty big. if you play with your fast cast ground targeting on, then you wont see the radius (assuming you have actually used an arrowcart) of the arrow cart.
stop whining and build a ballista on the lord room, thats an easy counter to the ac.
That’s ridiculous. I have all but the last point in AC mastery (as in, yes I have extended range) and I’m pretty good at working my camera around. There are impossible shots being made. I know about just catching a spot that barely gives a green aoe circle. That’s one thing, that’s what I did the first night DH called zoom hacks on us. What I’m seeing is targeting with absolutely no line of sight. We were defending inner bay against DH earlier this week and had siege set up well away from the door they were attacking (east inner by the lord’s room. Our AC was south of the entrance by a good measure. If their AC aoe circle had been overlapping on the wall and the ground that would be one thing. But it was entirely on the ground in a position that would be impossible to see from the gate.You would have to point the camera at the ground and zoom all the way out, and even then the arch on top of the gate would be in the way. I would love to be proven wrong, but I can’t find any other conclusion for how this happened.
I too have every point but the last, but even on my gaurdian i only have the range/damage and still manage to pull off some amazing shots. The fact that he can hit anywhere on the wall/stairs/cliff (on both klovan and wildcreek) Just seems impossible. And you mean get a balista up in amongst the meteors, barrages, warrior f1s, mesmer pulls/chaos storms, necro marks, and what ever else your 50 man zerg was throwing at us, with our 15-20 people there was no way we were going to hold it, but onya!
I love the guys saying we need to ally FC to beat you, no. As long as FC stays in the fight, we can stand a chance, but the fact you guys hold their whole corner and some of their borderlands AS WELL as push us back, makes it that much harder to keep up in score.
Back in town, skimmed thread.
IoJ teaming up again (why is that bad?) and IoJ posting pictures of PvD exploits (ok, that’s a little bad).
Eh heh heh heh
“IoJ that door”
“For EB clean up, call 1300 Small Flame” Possibly my favourite quote from TS last night
After having to tag up against the endless hordes of DH earlier in EB today, it was a great relief finally turning EB all green!
Caught up to 2k behind DH! Sad to see FC be so quiet, this 1v1 against DH is a struggle at best, but a lot of fun.
Keep it up guys.
I do not condone cheating in any way shape or form so players from darkhaven caught “red handed” does not represent the entire server. Seriously please stop just lumping an entire server along side those players that choose to play dishonestly. I play on darkhaven and I do not use cheats or exploits of any kind.
These accusations are obviously directed at a parcticular guild or guilds but somehow MY guild SE was thrown in there as well. Those screen shots…not a single SE member.
So do something about it, its clear who it is, you know who it is,
Name and shame.
Oooft DH, you took to long in EB to take our keep!
Gave us just enough time to get back after recapping out borderlands! <3
Think i need a new mop after cleaning all that up
EDIT: Runrunrunrunrun
(edited by KinkyGiraffe.4123)
Despite all the problems DH, was somewhat fun playing musical tower with your zerg in our EB corner, until you steamrolled us before we could get WC
Are their any [abys] officers on here that have any moral standards at all?
Kinky, we just wiped you, what? Twice? Three times?
Fun times though.
Dont worry about that >.>
Still so many DH in our borderlands, i dont remember you lot having this many!!!
Jesus DH, after that wipe on our garrison, i think its high time you gave up on our Borderlannds, Nighty night <3
Lots of fun in our borderlands today! Even though it was very stressful
Good job DH, hopefully the matchup is this close throughout the whole week!
and dont give up just yet FC! Keep fighting either us or DH, dont let the WvW spirit die for your server just because youre outnumbered!
Well, this isn’t going to be much fun.
Sorry FC, still rooting for you guys. But you might want to defend your entire BL / Corner of EB over SM next time. You get pushed out and we get focused on entirely by DH. You had the numbers to do it for sure. I was trying to ninja SM from you with 20 when out of nowhere you had 75-100 people hit us from behind lol. Really though, we were hitting DR pretty hard for a few hours. I was hoping you might capitalize on it, but choosing SM over your entire BL . . . :\
DH, what are you guys doing? I understand it’s fun to come out strong on a reset, but you do realize that you’re going to make both FC and IoJ just want to give up, right? I’m not to keen on an essential 1v1 with DH because you demoralized FC enough to where they don’t show up at all.
Its not just DH thats putting the hurt on FC…
We need to focus DH, especially during oceanic times, beating an already wounded enemy is not good!
Speak to a member of Abyss. They have the pics, I can’t access the website gallery they linked in TS3 as I’m not a member.
We also had an incident with a thief in Klovan even though the walls/gate was up, but we believe he was already in there since he was able to cloak quite a long time.
Not really sure what’s going on.
Some SS’s should be that our Inner Keep’s staircase was being hit by AC’s located down by the Watergate. Among others.
K, Abys, the guys that were caught red handed almost every matchup? k
What is ZL? Zoomlock?
Yup.
Lots of reports/screenshots coming in of IOJ AC’s spotting, attacking and hitting elevated locations and seige DIRECTLY from places they shouldn’t be able to, or shouldn’t even be able to see.
LOTS, of reports.
Feel free to send these screenshots to an IoJ member so we can make these “accusations” public on our forums and start naming and shaming
That is assuming theyre legit
A short story:
So I was walking by this tower looking for people to kill, and I see a guy standing in it. I think to myself “OMGZ I think I can shoot him and make him come down and fights me!!” So I start shooting him… 15 minutes later and after like 20~ raises from NPCs he’s naked and his buddies who tried to save him are dead. lol… Sorry guys.
EDIT: I would totally feel bad, but IOJ is the worst bunch of tower/keep huggers I have ever seen. Even when they outnumber you 4 to 1 they need their towers/keeps/siege/npcs to stay alive and win. It’s pretty sad.
Blah Blah Blah another nobody posting some random rant. Thanks, now moving on.
EDIT: Just gotta make fun of you posting 2/3 screenshot’s of of you killing uplevel’s LOL! Congrat’s!
He also beat them on his thief, so hardcore
Just because they took something doesn’t mean they needed to glitch inside of it.
We actually have screen shots of members oh IoJ openly admitting that they glitched/hacked into our towers / keep. We had people in our BL when we lost Bay (T3), the swords were up for no more than 5 seconds before the flip. We all know IoJ cant field 50 man omega golem rush at that time of the day so please explain how? In sunnyhill (T3) we saw swords went over there to see 10+ people in our tower without a gate / wall down. As we were fighting inside a mesmer proceeded to port the rest of IoJ inside (since there was no hole to enter through).
I have no problem losing a T3 Keep / Tower to a ninja but when its blatantly glitches / hacks that is wrong. I do have an issue with cheating to capture something. I think I speak on the half of HoD when we say “REAL COOL BRO”
Edit We do know this is a set number of people and does not reflect IoJ as a whole. I apologize for using IoJ as a generalization but memory does not serve the guilds name (it was a mix) and other members of HoD have the screenshots.
Try messaging the guilds that were involved in said glitching, if that doesnt work, get a hold of an IoJ member (pm) and they will make a post on ioj forums/bring it up during the meetings
Name and shame is probably the best way to get rid of it.
Sorry Natronix :c
You weren’t online this time.Sleep less play moar!
Good fights in IoJ bl.
Very nice Anet staff turn out, had em in the golems and in the foot.
GG
Like it matters that you flipped our entire borderlands
Its clear who the real winner is, we have SM
hurdurdurdurdur
This is getting ridiculous. If you lose they say you suck, if you win they accuse you of cheating. WOW! It’s just plain funny.
idk
I dont think I can trust your opinion of ridiculous when you use /laugh in a 12v4.You do seem to like that tower though.
I was ashamed to see it t3.
Dont worry, DR got our hills fully upgraded, waypoint and all TWICE last week.
… I hope we can drag NSP down a bit so this will be an exciting match.
like this?
http://youtu.be/h8qm31aVgogNaw lil guy just made himself look silly
Hes shooting the ac through the gap above the gate
I expected this reply, this is the view from the ac position, you can maybe* hit the side of the wall but you cant see the floor at all at all through that hole
This is the MAX zoom out the game will allow from the position of the arrowcart in the video, anymore deviation up or down will either show you more of the upper part of the wall or obscure the gap above the door completely.
your move.
His resolution may be different, different sized monitor, different position.
In the video it doesnt really show the circles focusing the ground rather than the wal
And in your screen shot you haven’t angled your camera the best you can to see through that gate.Screen shot showing you my best angle (im almost certain mine shows more)
As a sidenote I am Still waiting for Mr.Fluffy’s explanation how the [Cast] Commander ( who may or may not be himself as my previous post got deleted for “personal attack on a player”) Shot the ac on top of Mendons Gap tower in EB, Screenshot provided on page 2, have a looksie.
EDIT: for the lazy like myself https://dviw3bl0enbyw.cloudfront.net/uploads/forum_attachment/file/84672/_zoom_exploit_v2.jpg
This however is clear, and cast should work out who it is. asap
kinky we’ve already worked it out, I even provided screenshots for everyone to see how to aim at the wall without doing any kind of zoom exploit. Again I’ll re-upload for everyone to see…
Ive tried that a couple times before and its always within the minimum AC range is all :\
EDIT: The screenshots youve shown dont really prove much of anything, the aoe rings are further away then where youve marked in Spets screenshot.
if you look at spets screen shots the AOE ring starts at the side near the top of the wall, with increased radius it makes it easy to reach where the AOE rings were
In your SS where youve marked, that isnt even on the edge of the AOE rings in Spets screenshot.
This is getting ridiculous. If you lose they say you suck, if you win they accuse you of cheating. WOW! It’s just plain funny.
It gives them comfort
… I hope we can drag NSP down a bit so this will be an exciting match.
like this?
http://youtu.be/h8qm31aVgogNaw lil guy just made himself look silly
Hes shooting the ac through the gap above the gate
I expected this reply, this is the view from the ac position, you can maybe* hit the side of the wall but you cant see the floor at all at all through that hole
This is the MAX zoom out the game will allow from the position of the arrowcart in the video, anymore deviation up or down will either show you more of the upper part of the wall or obscure the gap above the door completely.
your move.
His resolution may be different, different sized monitor, different position.
In the video it doesnt really show the circles focusing the ground rather than the wal
And in your screen shot you haven’t angled your camera the best you can to see through that gate.Screen shot showing you my best angle (im almost certain mine shows more)
As a sidenote I am Still waiting for Mr.Fluffy’s explanation how the [Cast] Commander ( who may or may not be himself as my previous post got deleted for “personal attack on a player”) Shot the ac on top of Mendons Gap tower in EB, Screenshot provided on page 2, have a looksie.
EDIT: for the lazy like myself https://dviw3bl0enbyw.cloudfront.net/uploads/forum_attachment/file/84672/_zoom_exploit_v2.jpg
This however is clear, and cast should work out who it is. asap
kinky we’ve already worked it out, I even provided screenshots for everyone to see how to aim at the wall without doing any kind of zoom exploit. Again I’ll re-upload for everyone to see…
Ive tried that a couple times before and its always within the minimum AC range is all :\
EDIT: The screenshots youve shown dont really prove much of anything, the aoe rings are further away then where youve marked in Spets screenshot.
(edited by KinkyGiraffe.4123)
I am happy that you agree about the second case at least, and they know exactly who it is, i just cant say for sake of post being deleted again.
But my friend from nika beat me to it, replied right above me with a picture of the ring radius being on the ground.Having said that if the AC was right against the gate you could wiggle your camera to hit it, but the video clearly shows where the ac is and from that position there is no way with default zoom.
Different resolutions provide slightly better view but not to that extent, unless its something ridiculous like 900000×40000 :/ and there is* a way to do this without zoomhack, I will not explain it as it is still an unintended mechanic and counts as an exploit.
Whenever i catch an NSP player even suggesting to me to use an ac exploit I report them myself, be it zoomhack or the other unintended way of doing it, And if this was not know by the TRBO guild they should act on it within their own structure, if it was known, well.. shame on them.
I was talking more about the aoe circles that were in the start of the video
And theres is also another AC that is closer up to the gate, did you check the line of site you can get from that?
With my best angle i can almost see the ground from the 2nd ac spot
I know TRBO, and theyre a decent guild so its very unlikely that it was that player on that AC that was doing it. Cant be calling out a guild if youre not 100% sure.
Ive been accused of it a few times in the past, ive been able to pull off some amazing angles!
… I hope we can drag NSP down a bit so this will be an exciting match.
like this?
http://youtu.be/h8qm31aVgogNaw lil guy just made himself look silly
Hes shooting the ac through the gap above the gate
I expected this reply, this is the view from the ac position, you can maybe* hit the side of the wall but you cant see the floor at all at all through that hole
This is the MAX zoom out the game will allow from the position of the arrowcart in the video, anymore deviation up or down will either show you more of the upper part of the wall or obscure the gap above the door completely.
your move.
His resolution may be different, different sized monitor, different position.
In the video it doesnt really show the circles focusing the ground rather than the wal
And in your screen shot you haven’t angled your camera the best you can to see through that gate.
Screen shot showing you my best angle (im almost certain mine shows more)
As a sidenote I am Still waiting for Mr.Fluffy’s explanation how the [Cast] Commander ( who may or may not be himself as my previous post got deleted for “personal attack on a player”) Shot the ac on top of Mendons Gap tower in EB, Screenshot provided on page 2, have a looksie.
EDIT: for the lazy like myself https://dviw3bl0enbyw.cloudfront.net/uploads/forum_attachment/file/84672/_zoom_exploit_v2.jpg
This however is clear, and cast should work out who it is. asap
… I hope we can drag NSP down a bit so this will be an exciting match.
like this?
http://youtu.be/h8qm31aVgog
Naw lil guy just made himself look silly
Hes shooting the ac through the gap above the gate
We sit in our spawn talking about snu snu and ugly sylvaris as we wait for DR to take the lead
Well played guys
I did appreciate you coming at me naked while my lightning chain animation kept going at you, didn’t exactly expect you to be naked and disappear
died in like 2 hits with no gear
Didn’t even get my fire grab off on you T.T I wanted to see those numbers
Sorry for dying so fast <3
We sit in our spawn talking about snu snu and ugly sylvaris as we wait for DR to take the lead
Well played guys
I did appreciate you coming at me naked while my lightning chain animation kept going at you, didn’t exactly expect you to be naked and disappear
died in like 2 hits with no gear
We sit in our spawn talking about snu snu and ugly sylvaris as we wait for DR to take the lead
Well played guys
EDGE Commander, why you no fight like a man?
Let your fellow devonas die so you can come in and get cheap finishes
Always running awaysoh sahd
Omnomnomnom
You got me
good job!
Nawww, i get beckoned at (usually means 1v1 does it not?) so i jump down in good faith
and get 3v1d, poor form, dont expect any love from GEN </3
EDGE Commander, why you no fight like a man?
Let your fellow devonas die so you can come in and get cheap finishes
Always running awaysoh sahd
Omnomnomnom
EDGE Commander, why you no fight like a man?
Let your fellow devonas die so you can come in and get cheap finishes
Always running away
soh sahd
I’m surprised by how respectable and well mannered DR is as a server. I hope Tiers 1 through 6 will get to experience it and take note!
Tell me when and where that took place
And I’ll do something!
…about my gaming schedule
Because that many DR at any given time is very rare
…where have you been all week?
Maybe this is why IoJ has trouble holding their BL. 20 people chasing 2 people from NN to NE sentry, only to have half of them die falling off the cliff.
Darkestshadows….wut
Gee gooooooo IoJ! lol
Props to DDLG and friends for managing to absolutly DOMINATE our borderlands this week, our IoJ commands should really start rethinking Eternal battlegrounds.
Drowning in the red see, SOS!
</3 DR
People say I’m fly.
Fly like phenoix
Woooooooooooooooo
So close DR, so close
But no borderlands cap for you
Garrison is ours! >:O
DR’s “skeleton crew” :P your not as outmanned during these hours as you think, gotta give our aussies some credit for being able to put up with this!
That looks to be just over 10 players. Give me a call when you have 30+ chasing you.
the screenshot doesn’t include the 5 man group we wiped prior to the rest of the DR zerg entering vale. DR had a solid 20 man group running around on DR BL, just wanted to point it out since you guys are always saying that the oceanics face zero resistance when they take your keeps.
My god IoJ, a 50-60 man zerg on DR right now…The numbers you are turning out are insane!
If we are in first place we get 40-50 zergs but when we were losing it’s lucky for us to get even 15 man zerg. That’s a fact from IoJ.
Hmm, 40-50 (or is it 50-60?) against 20. Yes, it’s a skeleton crew if compared to your late night crew.
20 people could hold hills all night if they knew what theyre doing. You guys also have Overlook, the most easily defended keep in WvW, should be the hardest thing to take.
Quality not Quantity.
How is this even fun for you IoJ? It’s 7 in the morning and you are capping everything against our skeleton morning crew. So far this whole matchup is battle of the night crews and who has more oceanics. You’re “prime-time” can’t take a fully upgraded keep from us so why not let your oceanics do the heavy lifting when they have hardly any opposition.
Listen, I love a close and bloody fight as much as the next guy. That said, however, you can’t expect people to forgo their favorite activity because resistance is light during their activity frame.
You can expect them to press any advantages they have, when they have them. We’ll be doing the same.
I don’t expect IoJ to stop I simply asked the question is this really a fun matchup when the oceanics do almost everything?
As selfish as it may be, it is for us. PvErs come out more, people get map completion done. You cant say its not fun to try and dominate the whole 695 ppt
How is this even fun for you IoJ? It’s 7 in the morning and you are capping everything against our skeleton morning crew. So far this whole matchup is battle of the night crews and who has more oceanics. You’re “prime-time” can’t take a fully upgraded keep from us so why not let your oceanics do the heavy lifting when they have hardly any opposition.
Are you new to DR? Or?
Every week night we’ve capped DRs stuff since we first versed them!