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Im just curious, this is just something I wonder about. How many of you players that consider yourself a pro , top tier team whatever have played DAoC? If you did, did you 8v8, solo stealth wars,? What is/was your general opinion of the pvp?
Im not trying to start a flame war or anything, I just think its funny that people say this games pvp is complex after having played DAoC for over a decade. Im showing my age lol. Did most of top tier teams in this game get there start playing WoW or Warhammer? If thats the case then I could see why people could like this style of pvp and be fooled into thinking it was ok since what you had to compare it to was kitten to begin with. If I am coming off like an kitten, this time Im not trying to
I really feel bad for competitive pvpers that never got to experience daoc back in the day when there was a population. Ive had younger guildies of mine come from wow/war/rift and try to play daoc and quit super fast because they cant even understand how to deal with interrupts, or having to stand still and cast a spell or not being able to cast when youre getting beat on. Not to mention long duration cc. Haha oh you kids have it so easy now lol.
So yeah dont even bother posting if youre gonna say omg I always got mezzed or you needed gear to compete or give some other sort of tell that automatically lets me know you were terribad.
I think a lot of people dont like the trinity cause they played really bad games. If i was playing any of the main healing classes in daoc i sure as hell just wasnt watching health bars. Youre running around positioning trying to keep people in range while staying out of range. You should be ccing or curing it or shearing buffs or buffing or interrupting someone. I dont know how it works in WoW or any of its clones because I dont play pve games but if all your doing is watching a health bar then your game sucks.
I miss healing too and i knew they were doing away with the trinity but i thought they were going to do it in a way where everyone could spec into heals if they wanted and be weak offensively or vice versa or hybrid. Instead youre forced to dps. Pressing 1 and waiting for cooldowns is way more boring than “watching health bars” imo.
But you know whats awesome?? When your mostly ineffective heals cant save someone and then you get to res them.. Weeeeee. Terrible.
This op x100. I would pay a monthly fee to have realm ranks. I played for 6+ years before I burned out. Played on the losing side for years (palo hib) as a firby bard. Realm Ranks were a way to improve your toon and gave you a reason to go out and kill other players.
While DAoC was definitaly not the most perfect game (interrupt code anyone?)
Yo! The interrupt code is what makes the game, i always thought. It is its downfall too cause kids from wow and the newer games have nonkitten clue what to do when they have to stand still and position and cant pewpew. Ive been waiting and praying for every new game that comes out to have hard interrupts.
Ive played Daoc since November 2001, it is still the best pvp game out. Von summed up beautifully everything this game lacks and why its stale to a bunch of people.
What I cant figure out is why no one plays it, Im guessing the learning curve is too much? People dont know how to do anything but World of rifthammer2 type pvp where youre just constantly running around pew pewing and waiting for cooldowns and there arent really interrupts.
RE: go play daoc if you want daoc and I hear that, but new games are usually interesting no matter which you love and since all Ive heard about this game was how w3 is the next rvr its just like daoc, so of course I had to check it out.
With everything else the op said I also think that there are way to many camps and towers and too much pve going on. its very cluttered imo.
RE:“Also, if the ranks increase player’s effectiveness (as it was in DAOC), you are basically making life much harder for any player willing to being playing in WvW. Having a usable pg will take months of frustration while you’re almost facerolled by the highest ranks players.”
Not true, for the most part in daoc player skill will trump realm rank, There are tons of bad rr12s out there Its harder but thats what happens in mmos no? Its supposed to be some sort of a progression or else its just an action game with a static character.
“So how would you introduce ranks without unbalancing the game and without frustrating WvW newcomers?”
The same way daoc did which is by rr 1-5 easy to get and then it gets harder and harder to get enough rps to advance to your next rank. To make it easier you could increase the rank between higher levels so the disparity between haves and havenots wouldnt be as much.
“I don’t agree on the too hard to kill people, in DAOC when you got a PA from a stealth enemy inside your keep (and this was already bad enough) you basically knew there was no escape in most cases. That was just frustrating, no fun at all. There was also no skill involved, the attacker had just to press a couple buttons to kill you, and you could not do anything.”
The only case this would be true is if your purge was down and you werent paying attention.
“in GW2 if your enemy escapes you made something wrong, or viceversa if he dies he made a mistake. See, there’s skills involved here.”
I dont agree, mesmers and thieves seem to get away from fights quite easily when they need to. In daoc idk, a tank wouldnt be able to get away from casters with speed but theres 36 classes, theres diffeent ways out of everything depending on class and who youre fighting.
“Not commenting on the sickness, the most boring and annoying thing in DAOC, not sure why anyone would like to see it again.”
Because it makes the game not an insta spawn at the graveyard and fight again in 3 secs game, which sucks. If you play bad and lose you get punished, res sick could be cured, it was like a debuff, and if you had to release, its 5 minutes it would be gone before you were done traveling.
it is a place for people to have fun in another way, apart from PVE and sPVP. most people who are playing it enjoying it. that’s the most important thing… just because few people don’t like it, i very much doubt they will scrap it….
WvW is an option…. if you don’t like it there are other aspects in the game that you can explore, like the dungeons for example. not like it also ? try other thing. don’t like any ? i don’t know what to say…..
Nah I get it, I dont play W3 cause its terrible. I mainly spvp.
I get it as well that some people enjoy it, but just taking a quick glance at the front page quite a few arent liking it and I notice the these posts are popping up more and more. If you made a bunch of mini servers where you fought over just borderlands or just eternal battlegrounds it would be the same thing just with no queues. Plus your character would be geared up, and level 80. When I rvr I dont pve, ie take keeps, objectives, dolyaks, none of that is pvp to me. I get 35xp for killing someone…..WTF lol. Its another game where Im forced to do things I hate to do to enjoy what I like. or what Id thought Id like which is the W3, which I dont in this state ha.
Oh, so those people who enjoy the wvwvw still would do the same thing, just no queues and instead of pressing queue for this map you just join the one on the list you want. Cause it would suck for your whole guild to get into the same map at once
It’s called vocal minority.
Sure right now it is, but the game is real young and people are already getting bummed about the wvw. Getting crushed because of time zone, a bad server or gettingkitten cause you cant play with your guildies because of queues isnt gonna keep people playing. Theres really nothing wrong with my suggestion, W3 is basically spvp with a long timer, its not all connected its 4 different zones right you keep switching teams out so yeah again Idk why my idea wouldnt work. Theres nothing persistent in the W3 no?
it is a place for people to have fun in another way, apart from PVE and sPVP. most people who are playing it enjoying it. that’s the most important thing… just because few people don’t like it, i very much doubt they will scrap it….
WvW is an option…. if you don’t like it there are other aspects in the game that you can explore, like the dungeons for example. not like it also ? try other thing. don’t like any ? i don’t know what to say…..
Nah I get it, I dont play W3 cause its terrible. I mainly spvp.
I get it as well that some people enjoy it, but just taking a quick glance at the front page quite a few arent liking it and I notice the these posts are popping up more and more. If you made a bunch of mini servers where you fought over just borderlands or just eternal battlegrounds it would be the same thing just with no queues. Plus your character would be geared up, and level 80. When I rvr I dont pve, ie take keeps, objectives, dolyaks, none of that is pvp to me. I get 35xp for killing someone…..WTF lol. Its another game where Im forced to do things I hate to do to enjoy what I like. or what Id thought Id like which is the W3, which I dont in this state ha.
Oh, so those people who enjoy the wvwvw still would do the same thing, just no queues and instead of pressing queue for this map you just join the one on the list you want. Cause it would suck for your whole guild to get into the same map at once
Don't see the point of the PvP gear in GW2, maybe I don't get the system?
in PvP
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