Guild Wars 2

Dual pistols are like career cheerleaders – pretty to look at and fun to use, aside that they are an embarrassment.

No great swords, no ninja weapons, a rifle would be enough for me since we lack a proper 1.2k ranged weapon (cluster bomb does not count since i can pretty much outrun it).

So I’d go for a rifle or a crossbow (I prefer a rifle). As for melee, I don’t see why we can’t use small 1-h weapons such as handaxes and maces.. Guess we wouldn’t need it. But we NEED a 1.2k ranged weapon.

Myrmidone.4362:

Lost all Respect for PS now;-)……..at least on the forum.

I gotta ask, what does that mean? I think I asked once but never got an answer. What’s this respect you are talking about? Is it a quantity you allocate to people by default, or maybe it’s that thing gangbangers talk about while making kitten gestures with their arms? I’m confused.

Anyway, in my opinion if you want to recieve or give respect, join some gang and talk about respect, or what they think respect means, here there’s player-to-player courtesy and you just took a big dump on it especially considering you don’t come from a server that is totally innocent, therefore, by your own notion of “respect” and by basic mutuality, you shouldn’t be anywhere above PK that has lost your “respect” as if anyone actually gives a toss about it.

And yes, I am enjoying this week a lot, no more ramming down empty keep gates. People actually respond and they do so fast.

Is all Germany playing GW2? Cause it sure seems that way.

… when you scream “incoming” at the sight of red dots…. on your skin!

And to add, people kindling the flames and trying to separate themselves from the events of a thread they are part of.

Anyway, it could be worse. We could be threatening each other with real life physical harm. Until we do that, the drama is in normal proportions.

Also do the DE guys always exaggerate numbers this much?

Dumbest nerf ever. S/P thieves had to bite the kitten cause people demanded thief nerfs. I honestly don’t know why backstab is OK and PW isn’t.

I doubt they’ll fix it, soon at least, cause if they do, they’ll admit they were wrong and had no actual base for nerfing it other than the fact that people cried. The damage wasn’t that out of hand and the fact that the thief gets rooted during it’s casting plus how easy it is to escape it, simply does not justify the nerf.

Try repeating that, but play a violin in the backgorund…

I agree with people being kitten off about the damage of Backstab, I agree with people complaining about the stealth capacity of the Pistol/Dagger thief.

But what bothers me is that people complain about EVERYTHING a thief does. Like Haze says, what the hell were they doing to you that you needed to make a longass post about it? Were they decimating you? Destroying your keep maybe? They were just killing NPCs that have almost no effect on your performance as a server. They were messing around and you took the bait and came here to whine, enjoy!

Kaimick.5109:

plus the amount of money you would spend on mounts you spend on way points. Is every post you have or at least I have seen thus far is about making GW2 more into World of Warcraft. WHy? If you are still in love with World of Warcraft then go back and play it.

Why are you being so shallow?

Why WoW? Everquest 2 has mounts, Ultima Online has mounts, in fact every MMO I can think of has mounts.

Why in the name of God would mounts make a game that is SO DIFFERENT from WoW, in gameplay, mechanics and general design, would suddenly become like WoW if mounts are added?

The stupidity behind that claim puzzles me.

And honestly the current travel system would not be affected that much. Take Skyrim for example, it has waypoints and mounts, you use both (unless you are one of those guys with too much time on their hands and turn off waypoints).

So yes, I’m all for mounts and obviously, considering the amout of threads requesting mounts, so are a lot of people. It can be done, it’s been shown with the Halloween event (riding the broom). It’s not only useful but it can be much fun too.

So come on, what else do you need, AN? Or are you actually listening to that idiotic claim that mounts will transform GW2 into WoW2?

I doubt this will help, in fact I suspect it will make it worse. This is a gaming community, typically filled with people who enjoy spreading malice.

As for the guilds that consider moving, don’t, you came to this server for whatever reason, don’t quit it because, well, it’s what everyone else is doing, stick by it until and after the payed server transfers come. Don’t ruin another server, please.

And for those who still want to move here, I ask that ,for once, reach past that hate and malice that drives you to move to a server filled to the point of breaking and find your human decency and don’t contribute to the destruction of this server.

Then Zombies! Then we went to sleep…

Greetings from PK. I think it’s obvious by now that PK has changed their game…

By becoming PIRATES!

If you really think that they won’t do something about the outrage stealth causes, despite the fact that they already nerfed stuff just based on dumb crying (PW and Unload damage which got buffed again), considering the stealth issue complaining has a solid base.

And while there may not be anything wrong with stealth, which I totally agree with, there’s something very wrong with the damage you can deal from it with certain skills (BS wich can literally take 40-50% health) and the overuse of stealth that PD relies on PLUS the culling issue, how can they NOT do something about it. You got common sense right? Some of you at least. Use it.

So how the kitten would you justify the difference in peformance between DD and SP, or PD and SD? Am I trying to justify my poor play of a mediocre build? Is that wat you got? Cause honestly I’m not, I’m not too happy about the damage SP does but I’m still sticking with it cause it’s not a lost cause, what I’m saying here, and what you aren’t getting, is that, as much as you hate it, the nerf is coming, how can it not considering what’s happen with the thief class since launch. It is bloody coming and I don’t want what’s left of SP devastated by it.

And if I were to toss suspicions around, I’d say you were a bad player holding on to PD/DD with his teeth cause when those go, so does your oddly gained skill… and really? It took you several months of effort to master a thief? Again… really? Took me less than a week to master daggers.

Made a thread about badges yesterday. It’s not just support roles (but I know they have it worse than us damage), but everyone. It’s a bad system that needs rework.

Centrix.4065:

Yeah lets add spaceships, tanks and all and then re-name the game to Battlefield 4

Yeah, yeah, that’s the ticket

Try a bigger overreaction, it’s original and interesting…

Tanks are in the game world, so are flying ships, robots and big kittening guns. Deal with it. WvsW is about siegefare also. Or should we just remove anything we don’t agree with? Then let’s remove WvW since well, we don’t like siege wapons, or big fights, or taking towers and keeps, and let’s all just…. finger wrestle!

What about the army of people complaining about getting killed by invisible things? You think, cosidering the culling issue, AN will shut their ears at their calls? What about them? I mean they are right, the culling issue makes stealth more powerful than it should be, so what do you really think? They’ll just forget about it?

One thing they can do is totally nerf C&D, but that would cripple 2 builds that rely on it. Another and a more certain thing is to nerf stealth as a whole changing the way it works, or appears, which would leave the sword specs, considering their current state, utterly kittened.

So the question is not IF they’ll nerf the stealth-related issues (BS damage and C&D) it’s how. But if you’d rather imagine you’ll be PD-ing people till the end of time and I’m reminding you of a painful eventuality, then by all means, do not open this link any more.

What do you want me to say? That when I played D&D build (that was several months ago), glass cannon spec I could literally 2-shot people and still get away? When I tried PD I forgot how the dying animation looked? I couldn’t kill as fast as D&D but bollx if I ever felt at risk, if I could do that as a thief who just tried these playstiles, imagine what others who were, perhaps, not better than me but more experienced, did.

Fair enough, you don’t want your playstiles nerfed, but they will be, wake up and look around. People are complaining more and more about it, the culling issue is making it MUCH worse, eventually the nerf will come and I expect it will come with the next major patch. As previously stated, I’m a Sword/Pistol thief, I’m not sharing in the OP joy and that is fine with me, I like playing SP and I intend to stick to it, but I don’t want to see it sinking deeper because of the upcoming nerfs wich will, most certainly, affect all thieves and not just the ones enjoying what their build can do right now.

Yes, I’d agree with tanks but not in the current areas, in fact I hope they’ll add a vehicle-heavy battleground. Let’s face it WvW is not about PVP, it’s about general tactics, resources and manpower.

I’d love to see big effing war machines, that allow tower scaling, gate ramming, long range artilery, but also ways to counter these.

I’d love to see class specific abilites for vehicles/siege weapons, like thef sabotage, engineer reparis/enhancements stuff like that. Poor AN, the more they give us, the more we want…

AN has to make money somehow, their system is the smartest i’ve ever seen in a F2P game (Personally I’d still play this game with a monthly fee) and asking for them to reduce your gold sink (which is, currently, reasonable) is like asking them to cut their earnings. They have to make money in order to keep us entertained with content.

I’d rather see it happen before they put a price on server transfers since I’d rather be on a poulated server, instead of a deserted one. Or at least the above-mentioned occurs early on so the server has time to recuperate.

edit: crappy english

Honestly I’d rather they just did something about these “tourists”. I’m from Piken (started there and no plans to move) and I wish we didn’t get so many of the above-mentioned every kitten week and would much rather remain on a stable tier where more fighting happens and less steam-rolling.

And PIKEN, you do know that in the next tier or the following ones, eventually we’ll run into someone who can put up a good fight and we’ll be held back, or worse, beaten, then the tourists will move on and we’ll have an epic fall back into the lower tiers.

Don’t play a ranger but I can understand how it feels, having a major class mechanic being so non-remarkable.

Another thing I’d like to see, just in WvW is pets actually dying or being untargetable once they are beaten down and run away.

ZLE.8293:

Off course you have to prove yourself in order to people see weight in your claim.
I just know simply isn’t enough.OK,so you are S/P,suddenly it all figures.You don’t need Stealth,so nerf it,you don’t use dagger offhand so kitten it,nerf it more and revert PW damage,revert Sword daze,maybe reduce Haste CD.DO i miss something?
Edit:And don’t get me wrong,i also think PW damage nerf was stupid.

I never said I don’t need stealth. Every thief needs it for one reason or another. I just don’t use it to the point where it becomes an issue damage wise like backstab or combat-wise like the … well I’m not even sure what to call it but constant blinking (vanishing and appearing in another place) of PD.

I use it to escape, get past enemy lines and so on, I’m not dumb enough to ask for a total nerf of stealth.

What I am asking for is the OP theves to be fixed to a decent level so they are still competitive but not 2-shotters or invisible things shooting at you, THEN have the weaker builds brought up to that same level so the people who are no longer able to compete on a more eaven ground with the rest of the classes may have other options.

And as far as I know I don’t need a permit from the forum thief committee to post on the forums.

Olba.5376:

The biggest no’s against mounts are:

• Speed boosts
• Overcrowding in cities

But you have to ask yourself, would the majority of the very vocal pro-mount crowd be satisfied with mounts that don’t have speed boosts?

And also, why most people want mounts? Most people want mounts because they think the waypoints are too expensive. Adding mounts because you personally think that the waypoints are expensive (which they aren’t) is a bit like nerfing stealth because of culling..

First, why overcrowed, they added pets, correct? Are they more important than mounts? I’m talking about miniatures of whoever. The better question is, why did mounts had to bite the proverbial kitten
And if they do add speed-less mounts they’d be just as useful as non-combat pets. So what’s the point then other than to add to the overcrowd-ness of cities.
Personally I don’t believe waypoints are that expensive, they are simply just a poor way to see the world.

Olba.5376:

A lot of people want to carefully select the people they party with, even in a PUG. An LFG system would not allow that and those people would be majorly kitten off, as they would be forced to go into what they perceive as “inferior parties”.

And how does a LFG stop them from doing that? Could such feature hold so much power over their will that the only thing they can do is to submit? It’s an option not a rule, why is that not clear by now? Better yet, why haven’t people understood the role and need of such feature from previous MMOs that launched without it, one coming to mind being SWTOR. If you want to use it, it is there, if not, don’t. Either way you can still group, but if your thing is to sit on your kitten and wait for a good period of time till somone you may deem inferior decides to respond to your add on the chatbox, then you can do exactly that.

Honestly I don’t care which way it’s being twisted, this is a feature to help people group for doing dungeons and other things that demand a group, not to vex people with social issues.

Fixes are needed, only the guys who think that rolling thief made em pros over night, but if they are gonna nerf thieves until the culling issue gets a proper solution, if that will ever happen, DO NOT nerf them so the other guys playing something besides D&D or P&D don’t get screwed over, playing as a thief that relies less on stealth is a pain in the kitten in many large scale fights and also in small scale ones, a problem due to the low survivability. Please don’t screw them over like you did when you nerfed, without using any rational logic, Pistol Whip.

Really? You are making me prove myself in hopes that you may find something to discredit me with? I currently play Sword/Pistol if you are dying to know, which takes a lot more know-how to survive in WvW than a dagger thief and a hell of a lot more than a Pistol/Dagger thief.

Are you that desperate to defend OP play? Then go ahead, check my post history if you aren’t lazy.

Again, yes, I want to see all builds fixed and balanced. If that destroys your idea of “FUN” I really don’t care as long as the said fix improves the other “forgotten” builds and enforces more fair-play in fights (as opposed to what goes on now).

If you have something constructive to add, bsides suspicion and other crap like that, be my guest, if not, stay out of the discussion.

Doggie.3184:

Did you know cloak and dagger only works in melee range when they’re facing you?

Yes… please stop with the DID YOU KNOW stuff. I’m a thief player and I used daggers quite a bit when they wrecked S/P and I am aware of what it can do and it’s in NO kittenING WAY difficult to land a C&D no more than it is to land a Backstab.

All weapon styles need to be balanced, some nerfed some buffed, that’s all.

Ok, I agree that WoW and GW2 need to be different games I don’t think anyone with common sense playing this game wants that. But being different and being lacking are two separate things.

Not having something does not exactly make it a feature but it makes it a minus.

For example mounts. Why no mounts? Cause it makes the world seem too small? That’s already being done at a more critical level by waypoints. And honestly, mounts could prove to be a good way to let people spend some more gems.

Why not LFD? Cause some guy who has no idea or a line of thought said it would ruin the community? How exactly is spamming the channels for members improving the community? Am I missing some bonding ritual beside the whole group up and go thing that grouping usually requires, what goes on from there is the important part, why does the seach and find part take this long? There is nothing interesting or fun about it.

The trinity, however should always stay the hell away from GW2. I am glad to have found a game without dedicated healers since I was sick to kitten of games where healing was such a huge part of the game that it ended up spoiling many experiences, such as PVP.

Again, let me state that the absence of certain general MMO feature like mounts or a LFG/LFD tool do not make the game unique, just incomplete and annoying.

I guess this issue has been brought up plenty of times, but since nothing has been done about it, then I guess we have to bring it up until something is done about it.

I’m reffering, of course, to how you attain pvp badges in WvW. Having to loot the ONLY currency that allows you to purchase PVP items.

Why I and many others I know of think it’s bad design:

- Difficult to spot, especially in the heat of a large battle.
- And if you do spot it and it happens to be near enemies, you’ll have to risk yourself in order to reach a bag that may or may not contain a badge.
- Having to run back to loot is also very annoying especially when you are running with a group or are simply in a hurry.
- Due to the culling issue, I believe, sometimes the bags appear invisible, I’ve never seen this but I heard complains about it over the battleground chat and my guild’s voice chat.

I can’t think of any more right now and honestly I shouldn’t have to considering that there is a major flaw in how these badges are aquired.

Personally I suspect I lost/missed/left behind about 40% of these loot bags. Please do something about this.

ZLE.8293:

OK,so let me get this straight…You don’t use much(at all) Stealth,so you wish/hope that it will be nerfed so they give you something that you will use more?

Ok since you want it straight, I do use stealth, but not the DD or PD (I meant PD), since I condsider those specs easy kitten easy and outright unfair in an eaven fight (one on one). I mean it’s stupid how easy it is to fight when you are stealthed almost through the whole duration of the fight, and don’t give me that initiative crap, unless you are brain-dead and can’t learn to time, that spec insures you are stealthed most of the time. Bottom line, I’m not looking for a class to pwn noobs.

And yes, I’m also aware you can be hit in stealth, I play a thief as a main. But you can also dodge in stealth so if you get hit it’s probably because you are standing still or have no sense of direction or reaction, which kinda enforces the popular belef that the thief is the class picked by bad players looking for a large advantage over others.

BUT!

I know that at this point those specs are needed because, well, without them the thief would be a mediocre damage, mediocre utility and low survivability class Initiative being the only trademark this class has.

Things need to change. No more losing half of your health in one backstab, no more fighting things you can’t see, well, at least those outside the culling issue.

And by now, if you think this is some sort of stealthy nerf-call, please check my posts, I’ve always been against senseless demands to nerf thieves, but what’s going on now, the lack of viability of some specs and the power of others is also, very much, seneless.

But take it as you will, either way, I hope I got my point across.

Yeah, as a thief I can come clean that the overuse of stealth is a kittening kitten to say the least. I guess many thieves are aware of it.

No one should fight something that is invisible 80% of the time (D/P thieves).

But if you nerf that thieves are boned since they have little survivability, way too little mobility to justify a major stealth nerf and if certain other stealth abilites get hit as well, less utitlity.

Now what you could do is == this may come as a shock to all thief haters== buff the other combat types (SP, SD) and thus guive thieves something to fall back on when you inevitably nerf stealth.

It is annoying but I don’t want it eliminated. If they made it so there is a chance to either get “downed” or directly killed.

Esoteric.5490:

The short answer is no, it is not.

The long answer is, are you really going to come to the forums and complain about players standing in their invulnerable area because it’s right next to their spawn? You are literally spawn camping a server and you’re complaining that you can’t run into their spawn and murder them there too. That’s shameful.

Get a bloody clue. First of all, this usually happens when a lesser team is chased away from certain supply camps. While I’m ok with a point where they can rally I’m not fine with a spot that allows you to retreat to if things go bad and you become invulnerable while still able to attack.
And second, the fact that the invulnerability buff expends so far from the camp, is, by rational logic, unintended.

I would love to see dwarves as a playable race, prefferably fleshy dwarves, the stone thing is not my cup of tea, I want a dwarf engineer so badly since Warhammer Online proved to be such a fail.

Be lucky. I found countless yellows from loot bags. I think I found an orange item once too, then again I might just be imagining it…
Point is, if you don’t overdo it with upgrades and siege weapons, the drops combined with the objective awards should be more than enough to keep your purse from going empty.

I want to thank the SETH guild who think camping the jumping puzzle (PK B-lands) with a ballista is good PVP, I want to thank them for the brief moment of entertainment before they were staked by KA who were very amused by the lack of fight they had in them against an organised group rather than an unsuspecting soloer.

Niim.9260:

In my experience doing pug fractals there are two classes in the game I cringe when I get in my group, thieves and rangers. Has nothing at all to do with the class, but the people behind them. Not sure why, but both of these classes attracts the worst kind of players. Rangers they do not want to do anything but stand in the back and plink. Most thieves they are either dying non-stop, or standing in the back doing sub-par plinking.

If you get a thief in your fractals that has a kitten spec, doesnt use smoke screen when its needed, etc… please nicely help them become better so we can all stop being treated like we are not helpful to a group, when we really are.

And how would you suggest a thief does his job as a DPS? Considering you get oneshotted in many fights, so if you imagine all theves have some kind of sick fetish which includes getting downed constantly, let me assure you it’s not true, the low survivability and the fact that they need to be in melee range kinda makes it hard to survive in many fights and the alternative is going ranged.
So how does that have to do with the players? I know people hate thieves in GW2 because of PVP and we see a lot of stupid crap made up about thieves, but this just tops it.

Wiredgunslinger.5480:

I work night shifts and when I get on in the morning (eastern time) I’m lucky to see 35 people in EB but we hold out vs double the JQ because of our great organized commanders.

Migh want to upgrade your graphics then cause I can’t remember the last time I haven’t seen a queue in EB.

I get you love your server, but let’s not pretend that SoS wasn’t overpopulated by migrating guilds and players who dumped their servers to join the servers that faired the best ( back when SOS was actually a server with many good PVP-ers ).

I’m not saying SoS no longer has PVP-ers on it, it’s just that now, your main perk is your numbers and numbers during any hour of the day.

So any idea how to fix thieves so you won’t destroy the rest of the builds that use, for example, sword and pistol?

I see a lot of mediocre people crying about thieves and demanding what they think is a good “fix” when it actually is a nerf and a crippling nerf to other builds.

AN decided to nerf PW (Pistol Whip) without any good reason because people whined about it. So yeah S/P thieves had to bite the kitten so the complainers would feel like their long rivers of bitter tears accomplished something.

How about buffs? I want my PW buffed. Should I start crying cause playing S/P is more difficult?

What about engineers? They are kitten, CRAP, CACA in PVP.

What about warriors? 1000 2h noobs running around thinking they are touched by GOD. At least playing a thiev requires a bit of effort, OP or not, but a dead-brain build like the 2h sword warrior is fine?

So please feel free to make suggestions, but use your bloody heads before you make them. Which whould require you to actually understand how thieves work and not just in the build you want nerfed. Or just shut up and learn to deal with them, cause it’s very, very much possible (except when the culling bug occurs).

Biggest mistake AN did was to allow people to migrate. So every mediocre player decided to jump in the bandwagon and head to SoS (which used to be a server with good PVP-ers, now it’s just a server with too many people), leaving other servers incomplete and unable to compete because the lack of people.

Or they can start banning them. This is a the worse offense anyone could do in PVP in general, in any game. These people are a plague and AN needs to treat them accordingly.

So what the hell would you have thieves using in WvW? Cause DS is the best elite we have for situations where you go up against large numbers of players. It’s OP? Sure it is, against bad players, but then agains, so is any other ability. Instead of ragaing you might want to start paying attention to the advice given.

Hope AN is taking notes on this, maybe thieves were OP once, now it’s just bad people whining.

Yeah agree. It’s getting really annoying especially since more and more people seem to use it.

Well thank the bandwagon guilds and players who hopped to SoS. You are not the only server with this issue, several others which got dumped by their so-called PVP-ers to join Sea of Sorrows.

Not. Aside the fact that anyone who is actually trying to do proper WvsW does not need a bullseye taped to his back and would need to die in order to remove it. Second, what does the Outlaw get aside having his kitten kicked for being above other players? And third, why the hell would it be called an outlaw? Did he break the law or something? For what? Being good at killing the enemy? That’s usually rewarded not punished.

Real Pro FR!
Note I’m not complaining about the bug, I’m simply pointing out how sad using the invulnerability bug is.

Rowr – lvl 40 wearing some cultural armor.

Like every faulty thing in MMOs like GW2, it’s probably due to the anime influence, which is the worse thing that can happen to a game.

That being said, I have a human necro with wite hair, but that’s mainly due to the fact that he’s been made to look old and sick.

This has been one of the more annoying match-ups I’ve been against, no offense to the french or germans. I’m really hoping we either get pushed up a bit or even down and stay there for a while.