Guild Wars 2

This is the build I’m currently using, I just got back into the game and started messing around with builds again. I just ended up using what armor I had leftover went I quit to make this setup, while I get back in the flow of crafting and such. To be honest though the set actually works fairly well and I do hold my own in wvw while roaming.

P.S. I do switch to off hand dagger sometimes while roaming if the condi pressure is to high for me to handle with what I normally use.

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At work right now, but if you wanted to send me mail in game I can give you more info on how to set-up at as a necromancer in roaming and fights. I have mained a necro since the start of GW2 and still play it today with other professions. They are in an interesting spot though, considering the lack of mobility with other utilities that classes bring, we still pack a punch to people not expecting a good necro.

But anyway before I get back to work, here is a quick build I just made to give a rough idea of a build to run.

http://gw2skills.net/editor/?vRAQNBIhF6kjGodTsvGwaTgeTsgLYQtpAQLg6M0GeWxVxuYYE-TVDEQBXS1BpoEDAHBgEpGje0BwElGU4EA4QlBwb/BEcIA2iSw2oNwAPAAA-w

Like I said, though just made it up here at work, so it might look rough.. But you can change the weapons to what ever you prefer, same with trinket stat make ups. Good luck to you finding something that works though.

As the title says, I am a returning player looking for a guild on NA that goes into wvw and roams and or forms a zerg in it. I am willing to transfer servers and such, just wanting to find a bunch of players that still enjoy wvw like I do.

I’m currently CST and generally get on around 7pm until 1-2 am. I also currently play a necromancer, elementalist, guardian, and thief.. I have all the other professions in the game, but these are my best.

P.S. I am a theorycrafter at heart, and I like to make my own builds and play what I feel like at the time being. Some times the builds I make or enjoy end up being meta builds and other times they do not. So with that in mind, I tend to stick to the builds I make and or borrow from others. I do enjoy learning new tips and builds from others, but dislike being forced into a build if it’s a guild requirement.

Eh….. My elementalist is mainly d/d and I hardly ever find myself using impale.. Could it use a buff? umm I’m not the one to say because like I said I hardly use it.

Most of the time when I go to earth attunement it is because I am cc’d out of others or I swap to it mid dodge to get my blast finisher and basically use earth 4 and 5 as might stackers… Or use earth 5 with teleport as a deadly aoe hit when might stacks…

Other times I swap to earth is to use 3 to chase a guy down or root him.. The only other skill I use in earth would be 2 which does give a nice cripple/bleed..

But overall I hardly use auto while in earth. I find earth offers more as a blast finisher/might stacking/water healing/what ever else you want to stack…

MethaneGas.8357:

Nightwrath.1679:

MethaneGas.8357:

Nightwrath.1679:

Another good video Methane but no love for power! But none the less still fun to watch the gameplay.

Now just need the fall tournament to start so u can show them real necro gameplay

Haha ty ty
I sometimes make builds for power through the build maker (I always wanted to make a Runes of Melandru + lemongrass power Necro for WvW) but never actually got around to it :P … maybe one day
I think power Necro is harder….

Hmm runes if melandru and lemon grass never thought of that but wouldn’t it cut our condi in take by a lot which one a main source of our heal plus dagger 4 is always nice

So many options. But now dagger auto semi cleave woo!

Haha :P Well…. it would reduce condi intake – so a) more survival and b) shorter roots. Roots are one of the most annoying (and deadly) things in larger fights, at least for me. And I think most condis last long enough for Consume Conditions anyway. I’ve never really tested it but who knows… it could be interesting :P

Yeah the cleave’s gonna be nice :P Wonder if that will apply to the Deathshroud gain as well… that would be 12% every 3rd attack O.o IF it applies, although I somehow think it doesn’t.

No sadly not 12% life force I think.. Umm I think they mention that you will only receive the benefits of it from 1 target so only get life force from one target. But I think the traits will affect two targets. like vampiric precision, it will heal from both and the apply a bleed on crit will hit both but not life force

MethaneGas.8357:

Nightwrath.1679:

Another good video Methane but no love for power! But none the less still fun to watch the gameplay.

Now just need the fall tournament to start so u can show them real necro gameplay

Haha ty ty
I sometimes make builds for power through the build maker (I always wanted to make a Runes of Melandru + lemongrass power Necro for WvW) but never actually got around to it :P … maybe one day
I think power Necro is harder….

Ya power takes awhile to get the hang of , just recently I made a new power build and been doing well in wvw for me. No escapes sadly but who needs escapes when I can burst my way through muahahaha lol.

Hmm runes if melandru and lemon grass never thought of that but wouldn’t it cut our condi in take by a lot which one a main source of our heal plus dagger 4 is always nice

So many options. But now dagger auto semi cleave woo!

Another good video Methane but no love for power! But none the less still fun to watch the gameplay.

Now just need the fall tournament to start so u can show them real necro gameplay

Sororita.3465:

MethaneGas.8357:

seems like it would work really well with Celestial as well.

0/25/25/20/0 <— best celestial build ive messed around with. D/D or D/F and Staff.

Full ascended Celestial, traveler’s runes, your food choice and sharpening stones.
Consume conditions, Blood is power, Signet of spite ( usually just for power increase), your choice of stun break and plague form.

So close to the celestial build I use lol almost to close… But I just move 20 points here and there… nice to see other people at least think of using celestial gear in a setup.

Ok so I am a little confused and wondering can someone help me out?..

Well mainly I am wondering what will happen to say rank 45 and such? I know you said rank 50 and up will go to dragon does that Rank 40 will go to Phoenix or no? Are you just pushing up rank 50s and making the rest lvl like normal?

Some type of answer to this would really be helpful. Thanks in advance.

MAMI KAWADA!!!! Of course always have to start a WvW fight with her song Borderland!

But no really it depends on the mood for me I listen to different music for different reasons… Just farming or pve stuff or just relaxing its classical then spvp it move to Spanish music/pop and then for WvW the big boy songs come out…

I listen to Jpop/kpop and Trance/techno while I wvw I have 3 playlist for wvw one just jpop one for techno and another mixed.. I generally play the mixed if I am going into a big zerg fight or something the thrill/rush of the music gets me almost like forcing me to do better.

But if you enjoy either jpop/classical/Spanish/techno/trance I could list some songs from my playlist

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That is the current build I made up and run with for my necro.. It is a staff d/f build now I mainly use this for wvw but I also do use it for pve it has helped a lot in fotm and some normal dungeon runs.

Now of course the gear can be changed as will to what you want but I just went with celestial because it gives me the best overall stats I can look for. Now with the traits I went with I did this b/c in wvw I get a faster well of suffering with my focus 4 so almost 25stacks of vul and I can burst anyone down and it also helps that my well of power is on a shorter cooldown allowing not only myself but other to enjoy in this condi-boon ratio goodness

Then I use spectral walk for wvw purposes to fool people or just to increase my speed but you can surely swap it out for a signet that rezs people or a signet that takes condis from allies what ever you want to mainly do…

Ya I love d/f I run it atm on my necro.. I started as a condi but got bored VERY EASY so I went power like any sane man would and it ran d/d for the start b/c condi removal why not, I was scared not a pro… kind of a pro now.. But now I run d/f on my own hybrid build I made up… Below is the link to the build I made up now I have been on Gw2 much so I do not fully remember if I have messed with any trinkets.

But this build offers decent amount of support/defense abilities so I pretty much can get away from zergs if I need to or if I need to fight an out numbered fight. Plus I still have nice amount of damage with all my spells.. Generally yes I can drop someone insanely fast with f4 and WOS but that is to much imo.. So I just use one or the other and pretty much win.. Now if the player knows what I am doing it is a nice fun fight… I also enjoy the regen from f4

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Ya I know there is another vote option but still the fact that one person can just spam it for each person he doesn’t like does not help… And most of our party members were new which I was fine with but he was not so he most likely kicked them after me…

So I was in a party for cof p1 and first time this has happened to be but I feel it just gives one person to much control that or the other party members are just clicking the first thing they see.

But anyway to the topic at hand. I was in a group for Cof and we had this ranger, they were half way through and he wanted to kick everyone right and left. So pretty much he went through the entire party kicking everyone… No limit on the number of kicks started by one person? really?… and then finally we got him kicked and he kept joining our party after we reposted our party.. Nothing to be done about this? Then he finally kicks me after he got made because he could not get to destroy the gate…

Not really wanting to rage or looking to but just wondering.. I could of swore that there was alimit to the amount of times a person would start a kick.. and then a person joining the same party back…

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So that link is something of my build I just quickly made and what not so I might of messed up somewhere but it is pretty much what I was going to run on my necro. But after hearing about the new change to crit damage I am not for sure. I was going to go this hybrid build which allowed me to use staff of course and then scepter/dagger(legendary) and switch the dagger to main hand when needed and use my other off hand dagger. But after hearing the changes I figure I will lose quite a bit of crit damage in the gear build make up and it will not make up for the lose in other stats.

So it got me thinking that maybe I should just give up on making my full celestial gear and go like rabid with carrion or something like that and go scepter/horn with staff and forget the whole dagger idea.

I am not for sure on this though so that is why I am turning to you guys other fellow necros on ideas on what to do or how this will play out. I am not really wanting to change my build with the traits and such. Now the well of suffering I do switch out for another skill and change that trait depending on the fight.

Just made this up on the spot today well tonight lol. But I am thinking of what I can do that is new for my necro.

Well see I got some more post lol sorry everyone for the late reply was busy all day but cant wait to figure out where I should go!!!

Thanks for all the replies everyone!

Thanks for the replies everyone!! Cannot wait to decide where I want to go and try out because I am ready for some wvw action with others.

Hello everyone,

I am from AR atm and as well the server does not really matter the main reason I am here is for WVW… The guild I am in in AR are a fun bunch but they mainly pve not to many of them wvw. And after doing nights and nights of wvw alone I am simply tired of it. Even those I enjoy the zergs AR throws out there, it does get boring just running with a group of like 30 AE’ing and calling for fire fields, water fields, etc. Now I am not so much as looking for another server to move to but if needed I can.

I am mainly looking for a guild that runs small groups in wvw for the fun of it. I do enjoy zergs every now and then especially when we are outnumbered and still put up a hell of a fight. So I guess I am wondering if people have a fun bunch that go into wvw and cause chaos while still having a social friendly environment.

A little about what I play: I main a necro who is at the moment working on full ascended gear( ya I know the pain those bolt of damask…). But he is my go to guy who I enjoy wvwing with. My second most played toon would probably be my elementalist which packs a deadly punch while still surviving. Yah that’s right a ele that does good dmg and survives amazingly, lol. Then finally I have a warrior that I roam with sometimes and currently lvling up a thief to try.

But even with the fun of roaming and causing chaos I do enjoy those zerg fights!

celestial?? where does celestial come in on this build it is full zerker mostly and the traits wouldn’t be the best for a celestial mancer… celestial offers a wide range of all stats meaning it is a hybrid going full power like that would be better if u stuck with zerker… to use celestial u are going to get both stats at about average meaning u want both condi and power.. I can link my build if u want…

P.S. it is prob the wrong build b/c of u saying use scepter 1… and how can u stomp with scepter 1?… I feel this could be just a troll post

Mosharn.8357:

any roamers in AR? Or you guys just hold hands all the time? Havent seen any roamers.

Must of not been roaming much…. I pretty much only roam yes we have gotten a pretty big zerg sometimes but have to stand grand with kain someway….

Good job on the video it was fun to watch

Ya I do wonder how this match will end up going too.. AR has gotten quite a few more players over the pass couple weeks increasing our numbers I mean shoot we were with nsp and fc but sadly to much for us to take on both…

So I was thinking of making my necro a little bit more darker looking or evil looking… Not for sure yet on atm she is wearing full t3… So I made this quick outfit with the crossing staff I have the grenth back on aswell in this pic..

For those asking about gear and rune setup generally u can run almost any armor set up you want with this build and still offer amazing damage. Yes Methane is coming at this build with his condi side as I do not favor much on the condi side I play a zerker necro. Let me tell you all that I do in fact run this build on my necro in wvw as a zerker build. I generally run d/d but I spice it up a bit with scepter/dagger or maybe d/f or s/f yes the bleeds do not hit for a lot but my auto on scepter hits for over 1k a nice dmg each sec with a bleed is nice.

But I even use this build with my full celestial necro who does amazingly with it b/c yes the stats are overall but it still allows me to have a decent amount of hp around 25 ro 26k while still doing amazing dps.

Now yes all you burst necros out there will not do the “omg look he just died to 3 wells in like 5 secs build” this is a build that does take time to learn how to play and win with. I am surprised at how many think u lack crazy amount of dps with this build. I can clearly dish out nice dps with this build and still keep the high survivability.

So for those bursty people yes you can do 50k in 5secs while I can port out survive and kill u with my dps while all yours is on cd b/c u tried to burst.

NERF!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! This is all I can say it is just to op let me tell you all those freaking necros running it now…. tisk tisk tisk methane….

JK.. So I see you put up the build good job cant wait to see what everyone thinks.. Guys MethaneGas is a amazing necro imo and thought it was a great idea to help some necros who do not know some helpful hints of us stomping/surviving more.
I can say I run both SW and wurm but with a different setup and can tell u it even works as a zerker necro or hybrid.!!

Scarran.9845:

From a quick glance this is what I think the build is:

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The build has Focused Rituals for range well dropping, if you watch closely you will also notice when the warhorn is used it has reduced cooldowns. So straight away for the curses line that gives those two traits.

The only ones im not sure of is the 1st trait from Blood Magic and the 1st trait from Soul Reaping. The build definitely has the reduced cooldown for Wells and Death Shroud is on a reduced cooldown so they traits are correct. You will also notice everytime the wells drop they go into Death Shroud and when that happens the skills crit all the time, therefore that leads me to believe the build has Deathly Perception for increased Crit.

There is no reduced cooldown on DS skills and as the build has no Spectral skills I can only assume that SR is either Vital Persistance or Unyielding Blast. I couldn’t see any Vuln stacks when they were using life blast so I went for Vital Persistance. For Blood Magic adept there was no healing being done so life transfer wasnt in there, Dagger wasnt used enough to see if they selected reduced cooldown. But every now and again I noticed regen popping up, it was hard to tell if it was a result of the dodge or staff or party.

Armour and Weapons etc is alot harder to predict but the health at one point was as low as late 26,000 odd range. That tells me that the remainder to 28,000 in some scenes was from WvW buffs, also if the build is a toughness style build, it either leaves Knight to build up toughness or Soldier. Knight leaves you very short on health to reach 26,000 so that only leaves soldier.

Food I guessed and runes I assumed was Melandru as conditions where dropping off too fast to not have some type of condition reduction. Whoever it is also has 25 stacks of something which I assumed was bloodlust sigils as those are more popular but they could easily be toughness or precision ones to shore those stats up. But thats about as close as I could get to what the build is by just going with the video.

I would have to agree with Scarran for most of it the traits are off… if you look when she uses her warhorn 5 it has a 29s start of cooldown the default is 30s so of course she is not running the cd reduction trait.

Also I noticed in the video at around 1:49 when they are at bay if u watch around 1:50 when she dodges no mark of blood spawns.. Now yes one does spawn near here but not where she ended her dodge.

Again around 3:48 or so I don’t know if I am just seeing things but when she is casting life blast on the rangers pet it looks like I see vuln stacks get on it same for when she switch’s to the ele

So for the first trait in blood line I was thinking maybe it was well of blood b/c after a fight ended she started to rez but stoped maybe not wanting to trigger the cooldown on the skill.?? But ya she doesn’t use dagger skills enough for me to tell but she like never used them so getting that trait would be a waste imo.. and I never saw any siphoning so getting the 20% or so more would be a waste imo as well.

But other then a few trait misplacements I feel you did good on the gear.
P.S. her warhorn sigil is hydromancy

Wow never knew so many would comment about spectral walk…. lol I know people still use it; I was joking I even use it myself. But ya fear does interrupts but I guess like everyone is saying it wont proc?? not for sure myself since like I said I don’t run them but good to know I guess

ya I was trying to watch for those too but so tired lol I was looking at staff cds and to see if he has larger marks

I do not run those runes or do I know what they do but if it says proc on interrupt and u interrupt someone then yes it should proc the skill… b/c I know spectral grasp interrupts… lol jk who runs that anyway… well horn 4 does and many of our skills do so I would say ya it procs. Only way to be sure is to test it out

Sorry its kind of late for me so not that in to it.. But as far as I can tell the hp seems to be right b/c of the guard buff she has around 28k. but for crit dmg I don’t think she has that high of it.. b/c even in my hybrid im hitting with dagger as hard as she is but with half the crit dmg I see a few 3k hits with dagger but like I said im half the crit dmg and hit for close to that.. now I watched a little bit of it but she did start going down towards the end pretty fast so it could very well be that her toughness is that low. Now I am not for sure on this I would have to watch the video more closely to see.

But ya when she got hit she did get hit hard so could be not for sure though would have to look at it more tomorrow when im awake.

Best of luck to ya hope you figure it out!!!

Hello everyone so I main a necromancer and alt a Mesmer/ele for funs. But I just got my warrior to 80 and I mainly wvw so was thinking of taking him into there. But I was wondering since I am still new to warrior are there decent support/heals builds for a warrior. I will prob be running with 3 or 2 of my guild members if that helps.

I tried a build out in spvp with s/wh and lb it was fun to say the least I did enjoy the shout heals with the warhorn condi to boon. But since I am still new I don’t really know what type of runes to go for or what type of armor to get. So I was wondering if you guys who spend more time on a warrior then I do could help me out with finding a good support build.

PS. I have already tried a guardian he is not my cup of tea seems to weak and frankly I do not like their playstyle.

protovibe.8417:

love it! Im a new necromancer myself and seeing video’s such as this is very motivating!

Ya I have to agree with magicsparadise.4871 Necromancers are So much fun and I love my main. But with little to no devs wanting to help us or answer our question we are left in the dirt. Now granted yes I would say we are better then eles and rangers and I think thieves… not for sure on thieves though those d/p thieves who try to kill us cant so run and hide… You know who you guys are! But yes even though we are fun we are outplayed by some classes without even trying. Like a warriors the devs love who currently I would say are op with the condi stacking and dmg they can do while still being immune to condi. But do not give up hope on a necro; I still play mine all the time I go to tpvp and wvw with him but we are slowly becoming fewer and fewer b/c of what other classes can do that we can’t.

But again stick with your necro for fun don’t get mad and such when other classes beat you or you cant heal as much or support grps. Because we are necromancers who control somewhat of death so we have to die every now and then.

I feel you are to single target dmg meaning a good 1v1 fight but in a 1vx it might be hard. Anything with 30/20 is mainly for 1v1. You are a hybrid so you want to be killing but not as fast a zerker or condi build you also want that defense the zerkers give up. So there are numerous ways you can move your traits and still keep your feel for things like having traits in curses and soul reaping can give you both nice condi dmg with nice power hits and you still have the nice defense of DS. or you can move some into blood magic and gain some small but helpful siphons that can work well. Or be the few like me who puts points into death magic just for staff and toughness.

So I run a hyrbrid build atm myself or a zerker depending on how I feel but I main hand dagger both times I tried axe out a few times but I feel I couldn’t get the dmg I do with dagger auto. So did you just push for axe since it looked cooler? or maybe the range it has on it… or just a favorite.?

Umut.5471:

Necro will be close friends ranger, they are both bottom tier characters from now on.
I can’t understand why arenanet has such hate towards necros. Necros needed buffs not nerfs, they were already so underpowered with high dependance to conditions. If dhuumfire is the reason of all these nerfs why not remove dhuumfire instead of other great abilities? Also conditions mean nothing in wvw, they can’t even deal damage with instant cleanses. My main character is a necro, but sorry i refuse to play necro from now on. They have to buff necro for pve with same dps amount of a warrior, and useful power based aoes for wvw. I say again, stop making us depend on conditions they mean nothing at pve and wvw. Also new healing skill is a joke, if it really needs an icd, why doesn’t warrior healing doesn’t have such 1s icd? They fully restore their health in a wvw zerg easily. I think they are trying to say us : Play warrior or don’t play our game at all. All hail warrior master race.

I hate to agree with you on most of that but I have to. I have mained a necro since I started this game and I have loved it. I keep playing him but I just do not know anymore. I can still do amazing dmg and take on 2 maybe 3 players but it is getting harder and harder to master how to do it. And so made a warrior first day I went into the mist and did a hotjoin he could take on like 4 no problem and kill them so fast as a condi build. Which seemed to do more dmg then what my necro could do. Then I switched him to a support build and he still does crazy dmg to everything…… so all hail warriors?

Well if u ask others they will prob say go guardian or engi or gg mode warrior…. but I started with a necro and sticking with him. They are fun just take awhile getting use to we do not offer much heals as other classes but we have nice condi to boon conversion and vice versa.

Our dmg is nice as well we offer great condi dmg and some nice power dmg.

Junkhaus.4301:

Nightwrath.1679:

Lol found the kitten guild today in ARBL Good job 1v2ing and thinking your so much better.. Kaineng guild OBEY

lol. Doesn’t take much to get you whining on the forums. For the record, I was 1v3 against you and your back up squad who were ready to res you the moment you go down. That’s how wvw goes, happens everyday, so just deal with it.

We just cappin your ruins, taking a break from playing for ppt. Also notice you waypoint pretty quick from garrison after you die and head straight back to estate to try to kill me for revenge (many easy lootbags delivered straight from garri to me tyvm). I don’t have to take your constant requests to join my party chat to know that you are quite upset, so I’d just rub it in a bit more with some sexy emotes. Sorry, I don’t care for your feelings, you are just an anonymous angry player to me with a red enemy tag. Btw, who are you posting that sob story for? No one cares, mate.

Did not know I posted a sob story dam…. GG I guess…. But just posting what I saw, two guild members who killed 1 player and /sit on him to show that he sucked..

And never had a 1v3 with the warrior or thief… I had a lvl 6 ranger following me just started this morning it seemed knew nothing of the game. Most 1v1 I had with the warrior I won anyway didn’t show any sign of disrespect either. But I guess everyone is different.
P.S. the one fight on ruins with 5 people total it was me a AR charr guardian the warrior and thief and a SF asura.

This sounds fun. I do and still main my necro for wvw well for everything. I do enjoy wvw as well I am on AR right now so we don’t have many zergs per say but roaming fits for me. I guess I would call myself somewhat skilled. But sadly we are not on the same server; and after the last patch I am confused on what to do with my necro wont stop playing him but seeing a warrior out condi u is kinda sad…

Lol found the kitten guild today in ARBL Good job 1v2ing and thinking your so much better.. Kaineng guild OBEY

ArmageddonAsh.6430:

Nightwrath.1679:

Not going to give my build out b/c 1 I don’t need too and 2 I really don’t want to give it out… But I do use staff and d/d and I do slot well of suffering in my build and d/d and WOS is enough to kill almost anything not running a bunker build pretty fast and even if they do happen to live I can just pop DS and finish them off.

Sure. If you say so.

Ok… Just trying to help here people should try something out first and test it before going off complaining saying we have nothing but condis and our power sucks…. Plenty of people work a power build and have enough escape and defense not to die….

ArmageddonAsh.6430:

Nightwrath.1679:

ArmageddonAsh.6430:

Nightwrath.1679:

I can take down enemies within secs of starting a fight without them blinking a eye.

Sure against Upscaled people maybe. How about against GOOD players…

I can kill good players no problem… Wait… what even defines a good player?? someone who can win almost all their 1v1s then that would make me a good player; I have even had people call me a good player shoot I have a guild call me a good player from wvw on time. I can kill any lvl fine equal or not. I have played this necro since I started the game so I know almost everything about them what to use and what not to use. You cannot go running full attack skills wishing/thinking you will win in 5secs not going to happen. Have to play it smart, the only class that can give me a hard time are mesmers. But then again they get everyone a hard time.

So, what is this supposed “burst” that you have that can melt people in “seconds”…

Not going to give my build out b/c 1 I don’t need too and 2 I really don’t want to give it out… But I do use staff and d/d and I do slot well of suffering in my build and d/d and WOS is enough to kill almost anything not running a bunker build pretty fast and even if they do happen to live I can just pop DS and finish them off.

ArmageddonAsh.6430:

Nightwrath.1679:

I can take down enemies within secs of starting a fight without them blinking a eye.

Sure against Upscaled people maybe. How about against GOOD players…

I can kill good players no problem… Wait… what even defines a good player?? someone who can win almost all their 1v1s then that would make me a good player; I have even had people call me a good player shoot I have a guild call me a good player from wvw on time. I can kill any lvl fine equal or not. I have played this necro since I started the game so I know almost everything about them what to use and what not to use. You cannot go running full attack skills wishing/thinking you will win in 5secs not going to happen. Have to play it smart, the only class that can give me a hard time are mesmers. But then again they get everyone a hard time.

ArmageddonAsh.6430:

Kahrgan.7401:

See now this is exactly the mindset that is wrong with the game. The traits aren’t broken, or weak, they just don’t work for the way you are trying to use them.

Siphons don’t scale based on healing power. You should know this, the moment you put on healing power gear, and noticed the tooltip didn’t change.

Siphons are best used with abilities that hit fast, not hard (think wh 5, wells, dagger mh, axe mh #2, etc)

I run a siphon build, and I have been very happy with it.

You DO know that they DO scale with Healing Power right? Just, they scale VERY poorly. The traits are VERY poor. Considering that we pretty much have no defense, no escape DeathShroud is nothing more than an Invul for a few seconds in which you get locked out of heals and skills.

Access to ONE protection. Its like we are FORCED into condition builds and even they are becoming weaker as the Meta moves away from conditions. Power builds arent as strong thanks to lack of defense, lack of chase down and lack of escape should it all go wrong.

While leveling it is decent, Nothing more. Works okay with Locust Swarm and thats about it. It is still very meh

Umm where have you been?!?!?!?!?! Really being forced into condi builds umm ya ok…. I ran a condi build when I first started by necro but now I am all about that power burst. I can take down enemies within secs of starting a fight without them blinking a eye. But then again you commented about how we have no defense. Believe it or not we have a lot of defense skills. Yes DS does lock us out of a heal but I like most necros run CC so u time DS to wait out the cool down on CC.

Plus with Spectral Walk that spell alone is enough to get me out of zergs. I can survive with my builds at most against like 4 people. And when more come it is generally a zerg and they are mindless so just pop SW run and port back to run away most will not notice.

It does take time to master this class we are not like a guardian or warrior who can just chain skills and be op or a thief and spam 2… (nothing against those classes xD)… But we cannot so we have to learn how to time our skills to be ready for anything. The most common necros who complain about being killed or owned by numerous people are the ones who put all attack skills in 7-9. We rarely even needs those skills I have them setup with spectral walk and spectral wall both to help me get away when need to and then I have well of suffering as a attack. I have seen necros run with Spectral walk and flesh wurm and then BIP before killing people b/c of the two ports they have. People just need to learn how to time skills and how to outsmart the mindless button smashers.

Mindx.9610:

tbor.7243:

looks like he went 0/10/0/30/30.

you are correct

Rennoko.5731:

I like support necro, but I think this seems to have a much larger impact on the well side of support rather than the healing side of support, which makes me wonder if all that healing power is really worth it. Imagine if you threw in some zerker trinkets, and how much harder you would hit (and thus help down) with all that guardian might.

I watched and just didn’t see the kind of healing numbers I might see from an equivalently geared guardian or elementalist. Seems like smart play with wells and any stats would be just about as good.

I enjoyed it though, it looked about like what happened when I ran clerics in a support build (though I took 20 in Death magic to get bigger regen area coverage). Very dangerous to get covered in conditions in this build, and very reliant on someone else to pull them off you. (sorry putrid mark.. RIP)

This was a test run of the builds playstyle with cleric armor water runes- pvt/celestial accessories. Definitely not optimized but it still worked decently. I may be wrong but i think life transfer crits effect transfusion (Again could be completely off with this) but i have seen 4k+ heals after some 1.3 2.2k’s heals. I want to test it with Magi gear as well.

I normally run shroud fighter builds with target wells 30/10/0/0/30 knights/cav LB pierces for zerg busting. Recently switched to 10/10/20/0/30 soldier/zerk cav/zerk accessories for death shivers which is beyond amazing and under utilized imo.

All of our builds rely on each other to support each other so condi clears arent a big issue. We tend to fight 2:1 3:1 odds and are often victorious.

I have ran that build with magi gear, it did ok for me but then again I mainly roam when I wvw. Ya glad you found a build that works with your other guildmates build. I am on AR WOOT!!!!! and we lost quite a bit of people but working our way back up. But my guild has at most like 5 people in wvw at a time so we cant do gvg and such it looks like so much fun. But at last I will never know the feel of a zerg fight with having people who know what they are doing.

But good luck on your future fights! Hope you guys win!

ArmageddonAsh.6430:

C Hanson.4056:

necro right now is pretty solid in pvp

Guessing you dont PvP much…

Ya what type of pvp are you talking about because my main is fine well more then fine in pvp. I win almost all my 1v1 in wvw tpvp or hotjoins. I even win most of my 1v2s. Now granted necros may not be the top of the classes or everyone’s favorite but its mine and I see a bunch of players rank top as necros. It might be harder then other classes to master but once you figure it out you cannot go wrong with a necro.

I can say that I have won a 1v2 as MM. I don’t play MM a lot well rarely at all do I play it. For numerous reasons that I do not really want to get into right now. But when I did play it yes it can be done if u know what your are doing and/or the other players suck. I ran a MM build with d/f and I would kill the first target so fast that he couldn’t do much. and then just sit in Ds until your burst are back up.

Right now in my current power build I do have that target the weak trait now it does seem nice with the inc dmg from each condi. But I wouldn’t say that is the main reason I took SOS. The passive alone does offer much for necros with the power inc but I rarely use the passive. I think my signet is always on cd (60s). But the signet does offer active a lot of help with fighting.

In 1v1 I generally burst people down without it anyway I can kill most with my d/d and well of suffering that they will die without it and if they live then I enter DS to finish them off. Lastly I will use the SOS to kill them. But since 1v1 is almost never a option for wvw lol…. I will generally tag the second player with it b/c for some reason most freak out and run to heal or something crazy like. But if i am bored or lazy i will put SOS on the person im fighting at the start just to watch them cleanse it with spells leaving them open for attacks from me.

Now if I am fighting someone boon heavy i will use the signet on them after they gain all the boons.. Just watch for that pesky block… >.>

Ah Support Necros!!! This has to be the first MMo I have played where I could not fulfill my role of healing…. All my other games I healed wow was a resto druid/holy pally/resto shaman and in tera mystic aion cleric and so on..

But anyway I main a necro and even though I enjoy my power build I have I loved the support we have. Not many know but necros offer a lot of decent support maybe not with heals but with condi to boon and such plus with our aoe blinds..

I noticed some things you had with that build that I found unique but it seemed to work; I don’t want to give your build out since you might not want it out.

But overall good job on the healing/support playstyle!!! Not many necros want to run around as a support but I always enjoy it when I am bored of killing! xD

I would not focus so much on healing. I run a sort of hybrid build with survival and burst. It is staff and d/d and I live and kill fairly well. I do put 20 points into blood magic though for the vit and healing I do have siphoning is more effective and then crit healing b/c even though it does not seem like a lot it does help overtime. But focusing mainly on that is not worth it.