Guild Wars 2

But this option is also a handicap!

Long nameplates give away player, and especially zerg locations.
You see their tags appear around a corner well before you see a player.

So how many players will actually use this, if it means having that disadvantage?

Only a veteran WvW player will necro this thread.

Not the first time Anet have only half delivered something!

Just be glad they didnt demand 300g for have the dots be coloured to the server colour!

But yeah, apart from getting into 3 way zerg fights, I’ll probably stick to the original long nameplates.

Would have more fun if anet gave WvW the attention it deserves!

As you said a NEW player in WvW
For a veteran player, the current WvW is a beat up yo-yo with a broken string.

expandas.7051:

2. There were two mass messages about the patch 10m and 3m prior to deployment.

And even that doesnt work properly in WvW!

15s after the 3m warning everyone gets kicked out of WvW!!!!

Tobias Steele.2071:

Hopefully not. The crafting stations aren’t there for the convenience of PvE players. Nothing more frustrating than having 10+ players on the crafting stations when the map has a que.

Dont you know? Typically we WvW players are really into PvE!

Jayne.9251:

You right click the guild guy to get your own bank.

This isnt just a necro’d post.

It’s a necro’d post of a necro’d post!
Double necro!

But if I recall correctly of of this month, it is now a bannable offence to siege troll.
That’s right, at game launch it was “we cannot control how a person plays”, not it’s bannable.

This brings up greater issues of which deployed siege is a troll siege?
At launch my guild was one of the few who used rams in the middle of an open field zerg fight. If you dont know why yet, they arent a proper WvW player. Point is that siege was useful to us, even if half the server thought is was troll siege!

What I have found to be the issue is that we complain about lag, eventually after many months, the devs do something to reduce it a little.

Then a PvE patch comes out, and the lag is worse than ever!

To me it seems that because of the absolute and confirmed neglect WvW gets, when a PvE patch comes out, they reset the WvW changes. This then brings the lag back again, and the cycle begins again.

They never check to see how WvW is affected by patches, hence why we have had to live with this for 3 years! And now they expect us to pay £35 for the expansion. Yeah right.

Still 2 years too late.

And now with an expansion out in 3 weeks, what are Anet going to do to entice WvW players to buy this expansion?!

The free character slot is only if you pre-purchase.
The cost of the basic edition is still too high.
WvW gets 1 new map which has already been dubbed EOTM 2.0
GvG are just sPvP meaning bigger fights will still take up slots in WvW!

There’s no point in admitted the problems in WvW 2 years late in the hopes we buy the expansion in the hopes you might fix the problems Soon™

This is what people in the business call a con!

ImTasty.2163:

jewishjoyride.4693:

half life 3 confirmed

Team Fortress 3 confirmed.

Portal 3 confirmed!

Junkpile.7439:

Orochimaru.4730:

And when that becomes full I can see them complaining to be unlocked as well.

Full servers are full for a reason. if you want to change it, it is you who has to change it, not anet. And by that I mean transfer down and stop being bandwagoners.

Transfering down would make me bandwagoner. Only bandwagoners change server.

Bandwagoners move to the popular servers, i.e. T1

Moving away from those and evening out the servers so we can have better balanced and fair matchups is not bandwagoning.

In any case, the fact that T1 are complaining, and people are complaining they cannot get back there, to me is a humongously great thing! If they want to play WvW, they have to join a lower server and make it stronger, not make the strongest even stronger.

And when that becomes full I can see them complaining to be unlocked as well.

Full servers are full for a reason. if you want to change it, it is you who has to change it, not anet. And by that I mean transfer down and stop being bandwagoners.

No!

You are locked for a reason.

Population is based on server WvW activity now. This is what WvW needs, getting more players onto lower servers, and making those servers stronger.
this of course will mean some servers who thought they were all that and awesome will soon realise it was only due to their coverage and numbers, not their skill.

With this, as servers become more closer in line with activity, matchups will become more random as more than just the top 4 servers will be the most active.

If your activity falls then your server will automatically become unlocked. There may of course be a week or two for this to occur. So if your server is still full, then it means it is more active than some of the lower servers, and you do not need more players!

This is what I have hated about WvW since day 1, servers complaining they need more and more people. You dont need more people, you need to change your tactics, learn, and improve your skills.

And if you still think you need more people, I suggest you go to Blacktide and see how things are there first!

Simple fixes isnt anet’s thing.

First they did bring back the orbs, at least their so called buff via the ruins

Second, Yes bring back the original orbs. we see hackers everyday now, just bring back some of the fun. We dont care any more about the fly hackers sine you arent banning them.

and then see how many of us typically are really into PvE.

Deleted the top 4 ranked servers and force players on those to choose from the remainder.

Congrats on not transferring to lower server to make the whole of WvW matchups more even, fair, fun and enjoyable for all; and instead try to recruit more to an already full server!

Transfers to lower populated servers should be free.

The only good WvW server is really typically a PvE server.

*Out of the mouth of Mike.

Coulter.2315:

I’ve bought Guild Wars products for 10 years and never been disappointed with a release.

So? I’ve bought each and every expansion since GW1 came out.
I even pre-ordered each and every pre-order to get the extra slots.
I pre-ordered GW2
I have four GW2 accounts

The difference is that GW1 was worth it. The cotent you got was worth the price they were asking for.

I expected the same for GW2, hence why I have more than 1 account.
But GW2 has been getting worse week on week for the last 3 years!

I was a PvE only player, even in GW1.
Come to GW2, I did the stroy mission for my main character, but whilst doing it I found the PvE to be very boring, not engaging, and the dynamic events just meant nothing as the events reset withing minutes of you completing one.
There is no flow from one to another, expect a few here and there. You just run around and do what ever is there.

So as a WvW player now, what have we received in the last 3 years? Peanuts, even Dumbo got more peanuts than us!
And what does this expansion bring us? 1 new map, which is 2 years well overdue!

And what do veteran players get? 1 free slot ONLY if they pre-purchase! You get nothing if you purchase after release!

So for me, if I were to pre-purchase HoT I would get:

• 1 free character slot *order before 23rd October
• 1 new WvW map filled with more PvE than ever before. Cos WvW players typically are really into PvE
• Some bad PvE which I may play during bad matchups.

And all of this for only £35!!!! Nah, not worth it.

And if there was more content, then dont you think they should mention it by now, the feature pack is being released in only a months time now!

Roamers are essential for WvW!

First they can easily solo a camp, no need for the entire zerg to be there.

Second they can act as scouts, informing the commander if they see the enemy zerg or a small enemy group trying to sneak to get something.

And of course third, they can take out enemy zerg stragglers. It’s not the roamer’s fault the stragglers fall behind their zerg, it;s your zerg’s for leaving you behind. And if a roamers takes out 2 or 3 stragglers, whenn that means a couple fewer enemy players in the enemy zerg.

Let’s face reality here:

We wont be able to give an accurate answer until we find out how many keys an average player gets whilst playing for the next 3 years. then comparing this to the last 3 years we’ll be able to get an accurate value. :P

Ayrilana.1396:

Just because some retailers are offering discounts, doesn’t mean that the expansion is overpriced.

No, but having so many people asking what else do we get for our £35, does.

OMG how could you forget the Giant Pearls from WvW Borderlands?!

Seems even a couple of the official retailers have realised that the price is too high and lowered it on their websites.

£27.99 from DL Gamer, http://www.dlgamer.co.uk/download-guild_wars_2_heart_of_thorns-pc_games-p-29394.html
So if they are reducing already, you can bet that prices will fall further after launch!

I’ll still wait until after release, cos 1 free character slot isnt exactly a tempting offer for me.

Bets are on on how long it will be before Anet forces all retailers to sell at full price.

Why? The same reason why there isnt a WvW Matchups subforum any more.

Has any dev really been far as decided to use even go want to do Arrow Carts look more like?

Hammerguard.9834:

Tier 1 IS where the players who care most about WvW are going to be and there’s nothing wrong with other players who aren’t in Tier 1 wanting to be apart of that.

Do you really think that? The only place T1 is the place to be is zerg fights and bandwagoning.

In fact your comment is insulting to all those other non-gloryhunting dedicated WvW players!

If anyone in T1 cared about WvW they would transfer to lower servers to make matchup more random and fun. Instead they stay there fighting the same matchup 90% of the time.

Sorry to tell you this, but T1 is one of the more major problems with WvW. Too many bandwagoners and gloryhunters moved there and tipped the scales.

I still remember the farce a couple years ago where the #1 ranked server was still posting the forums claiming they need more players. They didnt, they wanted more nightcappers when they didnt need either.

I love these “can I get into T1” threads!

First of all it shows how broken Anet allowed the servers to become, getting players to stack into the top 3-4 servers.

And the typical excuse of “I want to play with my friend”, is yet again hilarious! You dont see such tantrums on other games, yet here it’s like they think it’s their right to get into T1, like there isnt another tier available. :P

Anet waited too long to lock servers this way, and by still charging gems for transfers after PvE gets megaservers, it’s just another slap in the face for WvW players.

But although I laugh at them I am getting tired of seeing them. A mod really need to make a stick saying Full servers are full for a reason, select another server!

Rizo.9534:

Tomorrow is Tuesday!

and Wednesday comes afterwards.

Come on already, we had the WvW stess test on the new BL, and everyone on the normal servers has huge lag spikes!

Werent these supposed to be on different servers? Well the lag gives us a different story as no more test and the lag has gone for most servers.

But as usual anet is claiming it’s not them and to provide tracert, same old excuse and nothing being done!

whats the lore behind revenant?

Kitty fell into a big hole chasing it’s toy.
No-one called the fire department.
The end.

silentman.8390:

OK so I been looking around and I cannot find much except for us having to spend money on buying a whole new game with DLC to replace the game we bought two years ago.

Then I found a post (which was a complete joke) where Arena Net said “We’re offering some special deals to show our appreciation for loyal players.” then talk about people who have owned the game for couple of months. What about us who owned it for two years?

So do we as owners of the core game get a discount, or very good bonuses for buying the £35 game and DLC after having paid this already for the original game? As if we do not this is more screwing the “loyal players” over!

(Before people comment I know at least one other person will have made a post like this but I could not find a good answer to this sort of question anywhere.)

Yeah, you get a free character slot if, and only if you pre-purchase HoT!!!!

Amazing right!?! I know I’m now no longer upset with this overpriced feature pack!

/sarcasm
And we only got the free temporary available character slot cos veterans complained. Anet were’ gonna give us jack all at first! And it seems many are happy just getting that.

Ayrilana.1396:

Explain why “mechanic changes” should not be charged for. Explain Why what you label as “non-playable content” should not be charged.

You’re focusing on quantity without regard to quality and depth when it comes to the number of maps. A single HoT map is much larger than the Tyria core maps with much more to do.

The living story episodes averaged about the same length as the higher level personal story arcs. You actually got more out of the LS episodes as there were achievements to test out your skills.

It’s like locking out builds until you pay for them. Another form of pay to win. Or as someone else said, raising the level cap via the backdoor.
Gaming companies continuously change and nerf skills, and yes this is part of the game, it shouldnt be a pay-for option. These are changes gaming companies must make in order for the game to be balanced and competitive.
Now usually yes, they get their money back from ingame sales, or expansions, but this brings us back to the fact that this expansion is not worth the money they are demanding for it!

Quantity and quality are 2 things I’ve not seen from Anet, remember I am a WvW player.

Again yes living story will be free, if you log in during that episode, but miss it and you got to pay for it in the gem store. So if you are on holiday or miss a week, do you feel like paying for an episode twice?! No, didnt think so. So again LS should not be factored in as an inclusive feature.
And again as I said, the LS stuff was completable in a couple of hours, not exactly challenging, and definitely not worth the gems you have to pay for them if you miss an episode.

lol someone from a german server asking for a fight?!

Sorry but seeing you and you brother servers running away from us all the time I find this hilarious!

Why not use your usual tactic of waiting for most of the server to go to sleep and then send out your nightcappers? Oh wait I guess FSP has night time players to offer you reistance!

As already mentioned, if you bought it in the last few weeks submit a support ticket, they usually do give you a refund, but your current account will be closed meaning you lose all your stuff and characters, and have to create a new account with a new email when you buy HoT.

If however you have had your game for a few months or years then, tough luck. Do what the rest of us are doing, not buying until it falls to a more reasonable price.

-9 Elite Specializations

Changes to mechanics which players SHOULD NOT have to pay for EVER!

-1 new Class (Revenant)

Yes 1 new class, after 3 years.

-Raids

Based on the PvE that is terrible, I dont hold much hopes for this.

-Guild Halls (with such things as new Guild Armors, Guild Weapons, and Scribing)

Not exactly playable content, so again we should not have to pay for this

-4 new Maguuma maps

This is supposed to be an expansion, 4 maps is not enough!

-Masteries

More mechanic changes, should not be charged for!

-Access to the Living Story: Season 3

Cos LS 1&2 were so engaging. Sorry but again, if each one can be completed in a couple of hours, no way in hell is it worth it.
Note again these are not in the expansion! They are potential future updates.

Now if Anet want to include these in the price then they should not be selling the past episodes in the gem store! So this point is straight away mute as if it is included in this price, none of the LS episodes should be in the gem store at all and available to all players, new and old for free! Cos we’ve paid for it already based on your comment by buying the core game and expansion!

So again, what we are being asked to pay for is nowhere near enough a full expansion’s worth of content, or even half an expansion!!!

Well there is the WvW beta test going on, but those are supposed to be on completely separate servers. Guess Anet lied again!

Indeed, this “expansion” currently is not worth the money, especially for a WvW player.

Even as a PvE players, all you get is one new zone, which will have 3-4 maps, each with 3 levels.
First of all we do not know how concentrated these levels will be, or how large each map will be. But even then this isnt enough to call this a full expansion.
Sure there could be come living story episodes, but again that’s just an assumption going by anet’s track records on promises. And even the last LS episodes were rather pathetic. you could log in and complete the entire thing in a couple of hours, after than it was was grinding for the achievements! Yes yet more grinding in a game they promised would not have grinding! Because they were trying to get these out every 2 weeks they lacked real content, so again something I would not pay for!

We get the revenent, but then it seems anet are bloating the news on specialiations and masteries. Both of these are not really content, they are changes to a game’s mechanics.
And I am sorry but I dont want to pay for changes to mechanics for a game, I pay for content. Hence why I will not be buying HoT until I find a store selling it at a more reasonable price.

So we still end up with the question of what exactly are we buying here? half an expansion being charged at full price? With maybe a few LS episodes thrown in in a year?

Last couple weeks have been fine, but tonight on Gunnar’s Hold matchup been having the worse lag ever since launch!

So much for any so called fixes!

Remember “population” is now based on WvW activity, not it’s population.

Technically it would be easy for any Full server to open itself up, all the main WvW guilds and players simply do not play for a few weeks.
The server’s activity falls, and so does it’s “population” allowing players to transfer in.

Esreyr.6304:

When HoT comes out I"m going to be annoyed when I use 50-60 of these things.

Then just spend a week leveling to level 80 in PvE/EOTM/sPVP instead!

No? Then be happy you only have to spend a few more minutes to level and use your lvel 80 revanent straight away.

Wait there was a gem store sale? Why wasnt this promoted more?1 I missed loads!

Aenaos.8160:

Only a WvW player does not play WvW only.

I think you mean:

Only a WvW player typically is really into PvE

They gave a free character slot, this made most people happy. These people are too easily pleased.

The game is out next month and I still dont see how this “expansion” is deserving of my £35

And what about all the runes the rest of us have lost from having to dump old gear?
Some of us have lost hundreds of gold cos of it.

2 years too late if you ask me.

This is just them pretending to care about WvW so more WvW players buy HoT.
You can bet after HoT release we wont see a WvW update until the next “expansion”!

Sorry but I still aint buying, especially at the current price!

Tspatula.9086:

“OMG HoT! we can’t do anything else..” a

Where have you been? It’s the same excuse they used 2 years ago, they couldnt work on WvW cos of the China release.

This just means that f2p accounts are more important to Anet than fixing WvW itself!