Guild Wars 2

My hope is a more reasonable price!

Aggrostemma.1703:

No we want the new players to get into WvW… After they levelled their toon up, learned the basics AND payed the purchase price.

Why add that they have to pay for the game as well? Surely leveling their character and learning the basics whilst leveling is good enough.

It’s Anet’s decision to make the game f2p with restrictions; your comment just makes you sound elitist.

Hell I bet there are going to be some good WvW players on free accounts which are way better than some pugs who have been playing for the last 2 years! I can tell you that right away as even now 3 years later I see pugs refuse to push with a commander letting the commander and his guild die whilst they stay outside away from all the AC fire.

Sorry but all these arguments arent really valid.

sephiroth.4217:

Couple questions:

1. Free accounts can’t chat, how would you relay info?

2. Assuming you have 1 PC, is it worth using a free account to “spy” then to switch accounts to relay information with 3 minutes delay only to switch again? That vital information would be way too late in an ever changing game mode.

1) Teamspeak, Mumble, Skype or whatever voice comms your server uses

2) Multi-boxing.

You dont like your stack of spikes?! So ungrateful!

WvW isnt PvE? Where have you been?

Well I dont see Anet blocking potential paying customers from a game mode and stopping them from buying the game.
In fact I think even level 60 is too high, as they will have to do a lot of PvE to get there. There is a bigger chance of players giving up on GW2 based on the boring PvE the core game has than level to 60 to even try WvW.

ArchonWing.9480:

“People are going to/already hacking/cheat/grief anyways” is not a valid argument.

And claiming EOTM is good enough for these f2p players is good enough, is not good enough, and way beyond a valid arguement. It’s the words of one who thinks they are an elitist and dont want noobs spoiling their game.

We’ve complained about how EOTM isnt WvW due to the fact it has no impact to WvW, that PvE players have made it their K-Train, and that even veteran WvW players dont even bother going there unless they are in a really really bad matchup and want to annoy the K-Trainers!

The fact that they have to level to 60 first should be good enough, as you said the money isnt much for a core account, so if spies really are dedicated to spying they will buy several copies, and you know they already have.
This will add a few spies but again as I said it wont have much impact if you ask me.

But if you think telling these new players to go to EOTM instead for theri “WvW experience”, then frankly you are talking out of your kitten !

EOTM is not WvW!!!

If you are worried about spies, they’ve been in WvW since launch!
If you are worried about siege trolls, they’ve been in WvW since launch!

Yes this allows there to be more spies, but they still have to level to 60 to get access to WvW and even EOTM.

So if those people are willing to waste gold craft leveling so be it, the impact it will have on real WvW will be minimal, if even noticeable as there are already spies on your server!

£20 is what this “expansion” should be priced at, I aint paying much more than that.

23rd October release date and still not much content has been shown to us to justify the £35 they currently are asking for.

Add on top that WvW will continue to be neglected, and the current posts claiming to be looking at it is, if you ask me, a ploy to get some WvW players to buy the game. Sorry but you simply do not deserve my money Anet, not any more!

…stuff anet then bans us from using in WvW!!1

I bought the waterballoons to use in WvW, only to find out I cannot use them! Big waste of gems on an item I cannot use much thanks to their shoddy coding!

Typical anet simply blocking you from using it rather than fix the issues it can create!

Healix.5819:

Orochimaru.4730:

And what if we do not want to give you our mobile number or install your app on our smartphones?!

No need to install any apps. Any web browser can be used to create an authenticator.

And goes GW2 have one? No, they are demanding your mobile number.

And what if we do not want to give you our mobile number or install your app on our smartphones?!

How about finding better ways to protect our account instead of invading more of our privacy!

It’s not logging out.

Someone has said that they press B and click the Leave the Mists button on the bottom right of the window, they leave the borderlands and do not leave any loot for the person who took them down.

It’s low and petty, and the act of a spoilt brat. But what you gonna do, unless Anet fix it you just have to live with the fact that there are soar losers in the game.

And so yet again, it comes down to the question why should WvW players buy the expansions; and why should they pay so much for it when they will receive almost nothing in return?!

A lot of critic even say that after playing the game they found the end-game of this game to be WvW.

A lot of player have already left the game in the last 2-3 years, and you cant blame the players for not wanting to play a game they dont think is being treated properly or maintained.

Eversor.5186:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9dl8WbSdGF0

Do ppl get banned for it?

You said: “I realllllly hope”

Our survey says: “When hell freezes over”

It was a joint effort really between both players and devs.

First there were the free transfer days. These were only supposed to last 2 weeks, instead they went on for months!
This therefore allowed bandwagoners to migrate to the winning servers, adding to the coverage wars.

Then there were the hackers, who were at first very discrete with how they exploited, afraid that we could report them and their accounts being banned. Though there was always one hacker who wanted to “show off their skills” and attack smaller groups.
The problem here was there was, and still is no option to report a hacker in the game! This made players resort to the forums only to be punished for it!

Due to the devs’ not banning hackers, it was taken as a sign that it’s OK to hack. All the hackers came out of from beneath their rocks; they were no longer afraid to be seen hacking as they knew the chances of them being banned were really low or non-existent.
Two years went by and the hackers came up with even better hacks, such as invisibility, hiding under the map to attack; hiding their tag so they cannot be clicked and reported.
All the while we still did not know how to properly report a hacker! And as we found out, neither did the devs giving us contradicting “advice”.

If it wasnt hacks it was glitches. Players were about to glitch through walls into keeps and take a tower. Again it was reported on forums, again the threads were deleted, again no fixes were made for months on end! And even when they were finally fixes after so many months, they were not listed in patch notes.

Whilst all this was going on we had players with several accounts using them as spy accounts or troll accounts. These players went around building useless siege everywhere, filling up the map cap preventing that server from mounting a proper defense. Or the troll players would go to a keep, start upgrades to waste all the supply and then the zerg would attack seconds later! Again many server zergs claimed they had no idea the troll player wasted the supply just before they came knocking. This led to bad blood between certain servers.
Again threads were ignored for months until suddenly we got a post where the dev said that these trolls can play as they like, they could not control how a player plays.
So again these trolls were given the green light by devs to continue doing what they were doing!
But then suddenly earlier this year we get a new dev post saying this is now a bannable offense?! O.o Again contradicting themselves, and again over 2 years later!

Buffing Arrow Carts by 80% meant that small teams would find it harder to take a keep, therefore making the zerg the best way to win PPT.

WvW achievements which will still take 20+ years to do still not fixed since launch!

No new maps for WvW in 3 years!

Tournaments with prizes for the winners only, again making players want to join the winning servers.

Staff players only playing on T1 NA servers. When was the last time you say them on lower NA servers or even any EU server?! Again this attracted players to those top servers to hang with the devs.

Adopt-a-dev project coming back with ideas 90% of people didnt even want or even think about, making some people question what these devs actually did and who they talked to to get these unpopular ideas from!

Adding LS PvE crap to WvW maps which only got in the way!

Inviting sPvP players and guilds to test out EOTM instead of WvW players.

Inviting streamers to test the well overdue new map for WvW instead of WvW players.

Not listening to a thing said in the CDIs

Postponing WvW CDIs, how long have we been waiting for the last one? A year now?

So as you can see blame lies on both parties, but if it wasnt for the neglect from the devs, a lot of these problems should have been dealt with immediately.

During the first year there was an obvious glitch, everyone started using it, the devs didnt fix it for a year or more, it was being used by so many players that it became a legal “tactic” to use even though some still said it was an exploit. Those players who used it used the excuse that if Anet doesnt fix it, it means it’s OK; if it wasnt they would have fixed it by now.

If you think this is a long post, this isnt even half of it!

But to conclude, we didnt kill WvW, the devs did for not putting anything but the bare minimum of effort into it. Allowing players to do what they did, which just made things worse.
Just look at the current threads after the population calculation changed. How many players are complaining they cannot play with friends in T1?! That is how bad the bandwagoning is!
Instead of making those threads they should all decide that if they wish to play together then they all should move to a lower server! But no, they are bandwagoners, they want to be in T1.

Many of us saw this population problem coming years ago! I myself made posts asking how Anet will control the population, even gave some suggestions on how to allow transfers from highly active servers to less active servers.

But we got no reply. And now we know why. They were first interested in the LS for PvE, then the China release, and now the HoT release. With all this pandering to PvE they have spent less time with sPvP, and almost completely ignored WvW!

So if you read this far, well done you too are fed up with this game any only play because you like playing with your guild! And are probably gonna down a few shots now and think if you really want to continue playing, or move to another game.

And if you dont believe in the bangwagon then watch this Blackgate S1 victory video:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bdecWAAJcMQ

5 minutes of listing all their WvW guilds! FIVE WHOLE MINUTES!
I’m in silver leaague and listing our WvW guilds wouldnt even last 30 seconds! And the lower bronze servers, well they’d be lucky to even have a video listing their guilds! They’d be lucky to have a single large WvW guild, or just a hand full of small ones.
This is why I have always hated this Blackgate video, there was no skill involved, just numbers and coverage. To be proud of that is pretty low. If they want something to be proud of then some of them should transfer to lower servers and help balance the matchups.

As usual, Anet is just putting band aids on a gaping wound.

It might slow things down, but the end result is the same.

The entire client needs fixing so that players cannot hack so easily!

Cos it requires less skill whilst making casual players think they are pro cos their pet didnt die.

Lowering the cap is not a fix, it means less players being able to play.

Add the fact that the new map is apparently pretty big, then they need to be able to cope with more players.

So if they do lower the cap again, please dont come on here when HoT is released complaining about all the queues, because there will be queues for the first few weeks!

Sorry Anet but your new login redirect looks more like a phishing attempt.

You didnt announce it, you just changed it without notice, so the first thing I thought was someone is trying to steal my login details.

Still offering free swimming lessons, though on EU now, but willing to bring my necro out of retirement.

Or you can forget everyone else and just show how 15 players took on a server zerg in SM; just a tad longer than 30 seconds though I’m afraid

Also wth, 30 mins before postings? O.o
That’s too kittening long Anet!

Do we even have to fight? Why not just all be friends, like this one time we all were!

Galen Grey.4709:

mrstealth.6701:

What Anet has to show so far doesn’t live up to the price.

Let me explain what I mean…. What has Arenanet shown so far?

Masteries.

Elite specializations + Revenant.

Guild Halls.

PvP what we get in sPvP and WvW isnt really bigger then what other expansions do but it isnt smaller either.

Quality of life.

When I buy a game I dont buy it for stuff that should already be part of the game.

Masteries, Specializations, Guild Halls, QoL.
All these things I expect to be included in the game without charge.

I pay for playability and content. I dont pay for stuff that should have already been in the game.

Changes to traits etc are all part of balancing the game, you should not be paying for balance, you pay for content.

So far HoT looks more like a balance update and fixes than a real expansion.

BillFreist.1527:

More improvements coming with our next release. As always, I’d love to hear if anyone notices an improvement.

Sorry Bill but your post just shows how you havent even read the the last 3 posts before yours before posting, yet you claim you’d love to hear from us?

More lag than ever before, more disconnects than ever before, both since the release of these so-called fixes.

BillFreist.1527:

A lot of the improvements so far haven’t been very visible to players.

I think this is the only true thing we’ve ever heard in the WvW forums from a red post!

We have not seen any improvements, but we have seen things get even worse!

Not forgetting, where did this new login page come from?!
To me it looks more like a phishing attempt!

illenos.5134:

Gaberen.4325:

Fire the guy who thought this was a good idea. And when we are at it, maybe hire some people there actually knows what they are doing.

It was Josh the marketing guy! Here is the evidence: http://tinyurl.com/ncdqkt6 xD

“Doesnt take much effort for develop for this event”.
No kitten, would never have guessed!

WvW is like a box of chocolates, a box full of PvE!

Xantalas.1732:

Official reply to my report, not forgetting to add that i tried MYSELF!

“We wanted to let you know that we are aware of player concerns about WvW griefing. In fact, the development team is currently reviewing WvW and assessing some of its properties to try to discourage disruptive gameplay while allowing players to gain their achievements.

World-versus-World gameplay is designed for everyone, and we do not want to discourage players from fighting for their world, whether they are daily players, occasional achievement hunters, or people who are completely new to the format. The team will continue to look at possible improvements for the future. We don’t have a timeframe for any changes that may take place in the future, but we wanted you to know that this subject is a point of discussion and consideration amongst the devs.

Regards,

GM Corvt"

Read: WE DO NOT CARE!!!

They forgot to add at the end: tl;dr Soon™

Relax guys, there will be the usual “fix” this Friday at reset.

Puck.9612:

Then stick to clicking the +1 button on the side of the post..

And what does that do?

The devs dont even bother looking at our posts, so why would they bother with +1 posts?

And how do we see how many others have +1 a post? Only people who made the post can see if their post was +1, and even then they cannot see how many people did!

The +1 feature of this forum is as about as useful as it’s search feature.

So we’ve seen 2 clips of where the CEO doesnt even know what they are talking about. The is no future to WvW.

WvW was flawed thanks to this and the neglect.
The biggest flaw being generic servers, the second being regional servers.

I think we need a new mode. It could be Alliance vs Alliance, or Faction vs Faction, or even Race vs Race.

Create new servers, these servers will be AvA specific, not general PvE.
Have different race cities be the staging grounds and main base for each Alliance.
Each zone map will have several towers which will have to be captured in order for an Alliance to claim the map.

Not only does this not limit us to just 3 maps, it allows more players to play at any one time. You’ll have the whole of Tyria to fight over.

This is of course just one idea, post your own replacement modes.

And of course these are just examples of different things, cos if they dont have the resources to update WvW, no way in hell will they have the resources to create a new game mode!

The future of WvW is PvE. Confirmed by Mike himself

Svarty.8019:

I would suggest people watch the whole video, you can see Colin diplomatically correct Mike’s unfortunate gaffes.

As said Mike is CEO, the big boss at anet.

If the boss thinks everything is about PvE, then they need a new boss cos he has no idea his game has 3 gamemodes, not just 1!

Dupe exploit been around since they “fixed” it!

https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/support/bugs/Omega-Dupe-Bug-still-active/first#post4909944

Dupes have been around for ages, they claimed to fix it, but they only made the chances of it happening lower.

https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/support/bugs/Omega-Dupe-Bug-still-active/first#post4909944

2 exploits? What’s the second?

Did enjoy the event, for like 10 minutes, then it got boring and useless.

Oh I forgot to add that not only do I only do WvW, but for the last 2+ years I have played solely on my water ele giving water fields!

Inculpatus cedo.9234:

I’ve seen this ‘WvW-players are not a thing’ statement bandied about a bit. Do you have a source?

Thx.

Only from the mouth of Mike O’Brien himself!

Guess that guy didnt read the old sticky Dont Do It thread in the WvW forums.

I mean one can understand, it was originally in this forum only, and now it has been removed so…

Look, it’s time to stop complaining and pre-purchase HoT, Anet will then have the money to fix and update WvW Soon™; but just remember, they cant talk about it though, ever!

Well EOTM was supposed to be a testing ground for WvW features, lol.

But if they did anything now then it would upset the PvE karma train on EOTM. PvE players would complain to high heaven and anet would be running around in circles to please them asap.

AmberUK.5380:

Its actually good so many people are upset – it shows they care about WvW. Shame we are the only ones…

Oh we’ve complained plenty before. It’s just that before there were fewer people doing the complaining so it was easier for the mods to do their stuff.

Due to the sheer number of complaints the mods have had to stop that previous action and just merge topics to make it seem like it’s not as bad.

What does merging threads do to help? If a dev hasnt responded to a single one of those threads, what makes them think they will read through a 600+ thread.

If you want to protest then continue making new threads instead of posting in the mega it doesnt sound as bad feedback thread.

WvW is dead, I only play cos my guild plays. And even now some are moving onto other games.

2 years ago we had 8 hours raid every night. Now we are lucky to get 4 hours.
After 4 hours some of us play other games instead.

3 years to get 1 new map! That’s ridiculous time!
I was hoping HoT woudl bring back some players, but with this silly event, the bad pricing and the big finger to vet players; well good luck with that anet!

ArchonWing.9480:

On the other hand, it’s pretty self-evident. I pretty much just linked this thread and said this isn’t pretty at all.

And has Devon even been bothered to get back to you?

New WvW maps = EOTMv2 confirmed with this stunt?

thewaterguy.4796:

Ok if you are a hardcore WvW’er I can kind of see your point but frankly, it’s a few bloody days, you really can’t handle being ripped away from WvW’ing for a few days? I know I’ve enjoyed this event immensely made WvW just crazy for a little bit!

Because unlike Mike’s out of touch views, there are a lot of us who only play in WvW!!!

It’s like telling PvE players to not do PvE for a week. You are telling someone to stop playing a game totally for a week for this silly event.

It’s just not on!

Real question is why do we still have server transfer?

With the megaserver they removed the need for it for PvE, which is what it was really for. But with the megaserver they removed all server pride.

Server pride only exists in WvW.
Server transfer costs are still based on server total population when the only reason to move server now if for WvW.
Transfer costs should reflect WvW rank instead now, but the devs refuse to do that.

Though since PvE players now no longer need to bother changing servers, why should WvW players have to pay?!

Will we get a reply?

Will we see some action done by the devs?

Or will WvW only ever see merged threads?!

They only post when they think they are funny, or to insult us further, or to make a random post to pretend they listen.

Only once since launch did we get one guy actively working on looking at the WvW lag.
This too was only just recently which resulted in reducing numbers per map and then all went silent again.

If not enough of us complain then they wont do a thing.
Take siege trolling, 2 years ago a few players complained and a dev response was that they cannot control how a player decides to play.
But then several months ago a lot of players complained, especially on T1 servers, which seems to be the only servers they look at when they can be bothered, and all of a sudden this previously uncontrollable playstyle became a bannable offense?!

Oh and let’s not even get started about the mods!

And lastly the FSP failure which resulted in an absent member for months before the community complained enough to get them to get a new one. Of which we got 2 and again we have one which rarely posts, but at least the other is active.
The FSP is supposed to improve communication and yet it seems communication has, as we predicted, become worse. The FSP scheme is a way to further neglect the communities.

Grimaldi.8532:

The progression….is real

I would get that checked.

Mike is right, I dont only just play WvW

Thanks to their ignorance and neglect I find myself playing more of DayZ and ARK and GTA5.