Guild Wars 2

Sola.7250:

Phase I 400-450 Solo
It’s not going to cost me even 5 gold, I do a solo farming run in Frostgorge, Malcor’s Leap & Cursed Shore for Ancient Wood & Orichalcum, takes less than 1 hour, then do 3 JP’s and 1 or 2 champs. I get enough to make 3 or 4 exotics per week. So in less than 2 weeks I go from 400-450 with zero cost.

See
http://gw2nodes.com/index.php

Phase II 450-500 Group/team up
I may continue to do some T6 mat runs every other night, then do champ hunts or dungeon runs for T7 material. It may take a month or even longer but, won’t cost anything outside the recipes, plus I’ll still make a little gold. Remember to farm everything and sell what you don’t need.

That is not zero cost. That’s still dozens of gold worth of loot. So you farmed the loot instead of farming the gold to buy the loot, yeah, big difference…

Anyways: if you go in with a plan and you’re not in a hurry (and you shouldn’t be, because it’s not like ascended weapons are significantly better than exotics anyway) you will not have any problems with the cost to level a profession or two up to 500. The initial cost is high, but some of it will be returned when you start selling the results of your crafting and the rest will eventually be made back with the ascended materials.

Celestial recipes are bought, not discovered. Thus they are unaffected.

And search is your friend in any forum.

Using your cellphone for online transactions is generally a really bad idea, because aside from the cost of the transaction itself you have to pay an extra fee to the mobile company, another fee to the company handling the transaction, plus all the taxes in each step. Which means that more often than not you’re paying almost twice the cost you would have been paying if you went through paypal, paysafecard etc.

If you find it hard to get all the materials to level your crafting, then you should probably back away and come back whan you have enough money for the materials. Don’t try to actually grind the materials out – it’s pointless. Sell them instead, gather the money, get to level 80 if you’re not yet (crafting is useless to you if you’re not 80 anyway), do some gold farming/investments and then go back to crafting – at that point leveling a crafting discipline from 1-400 should actually seem pretty reasonable cost-wise. Until you have enough money to comfortably cover all the expenses, crafting is only worth it for some quick exp and nothing more.

To be a sylvari or not to be… that’s not even a question

LordMadman.5812:

Are they resetting your exotic discoveries on weaponsmithing in this patch!? So, does that mean I’m losing all the exotic celestial gear I’ve discovered and have to get the inscriptions again!! I will not be happy at all.

You never discovered any celestial gear in the first place – everything came from a recipe. Recipes are not reset, only discoveries.

You are forgetting the cost of the Exotic inscription that’s needed for the ascended one. So +5 ectoplasms.

Noviere.7309:

Based on what could be gleaned from the developer livestream, sprockets and quartz/charged quartz play no role in Ascended weapon crafting.

That is partly true. You actually need 5 charged quartz if you want to make an ascended celestial weapon.

It’s quite simple if you think about it.

Superior runes will generally give you 35 stats per rune on average, plus a 6th-rune bonus, or 27,5 stats per rune on average and a bunch of minor bonuses.
Orbs will usually give you 48 stats per orb. A ruby orb will give you 34 stats plus 2% critical damage per orb.
Divinity runes will give you 60 stats plus 2% critical damage per rune.

I believe it is quite clear why they cost as much as they do.

As to why the major divinity runes cost so much less… well, a rune or sigil that gives you some unique passive or something like + % condition duration is always useful. And, due to the internal cooldowns, a major on-crit sigil is often effectively the same as a superior one.
An upgrade component that only provides raw stats, on the other hand, is only good when it provides the best stats. So, only superior raw stat upgrade components are worth anything.

Avatara.1042:

The maths does not pan out in actual gameplay.

Not unless you’re the right class and build for it, yeah pretty much. If you are though, that’s a whole different story.

Except for some builds they HAVE the same, or at least pretty similar, usefullness values for each of their stats. All of these stats are equally important for a power necromancer. Condition damage and healing power are slightly less important than the rest, but not enough to warrant sacrificing almost half my total stat points.

Look, you’re just gonna have to accept that some classes and some builds scale differently and have different synergies than others. I would never consider anything other than berserker’s for my warrior, because warriors are generally very forcused around direct damage, but celestial is the best for my necromancer – because the necromancer class itself is a jack-of-all-trades in the first place.
If that’s not the case for your character then fine, nobody’s forcing you to get celestial.

Bean Muncher.5197:

yup yup, you’re not gonna do much killing with less power than Cleric’s gear. That’s the biggest problem of Celestial gear tbh… you have so dang little power.

But you have much more condition damage, precision and tons of critical damage. Unless you’re just fighting structures then you should be doing almost twice the damage with celestial than with cleric (I know. I had full cleric before switching to celestial. Let me assure you the difference in damage is night and day)

Avatara.1042:

It all depends on how much you can stay in Death Shroud. .

Almost constantly if I so desire.

PS. And yeah, meant focus4, my bad.

Avatara.1042:

Highest crit damage does not mean anything without the power and precision to back it up.

My power necromancer gets +50% critical chance when in either DS or Lich Form. Add in a warrior standard and that’s over 100% critical chance. I do not need more precision.
My power necromancer also inflicts multiple conditions on merit of simply being a necromancer. I can inflict multiple bleeds, poison and torment in an AoE. In a fight with multiple enemies that makes up for the loss in power as far as damage is concerned. In a boss fight I use lich form anyway, making the difference in damage minimal.
My necromancer also scales twice as much as any other class from vitality due to deathshroud. She also scales 2-3 times as much as other classes with toughness, due to highest hp pool + deathshroud + tons of heals.
Speaking of heals, Both focus4 and Blood Well scale exceptionally nice with healing power.

So, to all the naysayers: can you make a proper arguement on why I should not be using celestial?

marnick.4305:

PMilkos.9103:

DaMunky.6302:

The Living Story has been nothing but GLOOM AND DOOM THE WORLD IS ENDING for months now.

Are you entirely sure you’ve been playing GW2? Because with this update we complete 4 straight months of nothing but parties and festivals.

I think you might have missed the different invasions going since January. Especially June and August were harsh.

People in Tyria are living on the edge. You must be selectively blind if you don’t see that.

I assume by “invasions” you mean the Aetherblades… and you’d better be trolling if you consider that “living on the edge”. So far the Aetherblades have a kill record slightly worse than that of the grubs in Caledon forest…

Coldtart.4785:

Add to that the bit where there will be more than one stat you aren’t even using;

No, there won’t be. That’s the main reason people would build celestial – because their class and build scales equally well with ALL stats. Not all classes and builds work that way, but I do know that, at least for my power necromancer, there’s not a single stat in Celestial gear I’m not using efficiently. And as a result I end up with damage compairable to berserker’s and a lot of extra defence on top of that.
If that’s not true for your class and build, then you should not be building celestial. Simple as that.

Lord Kuru.3685:

If each piece of Ascended gear adds a mere 2% bonus to stats, then a set of fully Ascended gear will be 26% better than exotic gear (6 armor, 5 trinkets, 2 weapons).

You math is horrible.

A 2% stat increase on each item means a 2% total stat increase on the full set.

(2%)/1 item = 2%

(2%x13 items)/13 items = 2%

codingCaptor.9428:

PMilkos.9103:

DaMunky.6302:

The Living Story has been nothing but GLOOM AND DOOM THE WORLD IS ENDING for months now.

Are you entirely sure you’ve been playing GW2? Because with this update we complete 4 straight months of nothing but parties and festivals.

And we haven’t had a festival in which the aetherblades didn’t try to kill everyone since Christmas.

Although to be fair, we did shoot down their airships at the Bazaar, so they didn’t really have much to do there (except try to get their gold back)

Well, they never managed to actually stop any of the festivals, so I don’t think I can take them seriously… The entire time it feels like we’re in the Pokemon anime series and they play the role of Team Rocket…

Trying to control the precursor market is unbelievably stupid. With craftable precursors coming in the near future, and new precursors dropping each day from the constant zergs anyway, it’s basically asking to lose all your money.

PS. This is NOT a monopoly. It’s still an open market, meaning anyone could come and undercut them by however much they want, meaning they’ll have to either keep buying out the competition or keep re-listing their stock. Either way they lose colossal amounts of money.

Conner.4702:

Isn’t it a better question: why do you care so much about loot that you actively prevent others from winning the event. Yes, by farming you are actively slowing down the event instead of progressing fast. I’ve seen events fail with 25 minutes on the clock for the final wave, because of farmers. Saying well you can still succeed if you focus on minions is not a justification I want to hear, because it simply doesn’t work no matter how much you say it.

You want to farm, fine, but not at the expense of others, which is happening here.

1) Nobody could “actively prevent others from winning the event” even if they wanted to. Even if the AB event the farmers are in is prolonged by a couple minutes due to scaling, there are still many more AB events that are not, because farmers cannot possibly be everywhere at the same time. If you care so much about finishing the meta event, go do those on a small group. Noone is stopping you and noone could stop you even if they wanted to.

2) Nobody is preventing anyone from winning, because there is no winning. Or losing, for that matter. There is no reward for winning and no penalty for losing, and the event is not even hard enough to do for bragging rights. Noone’s doing anything at the expense of anyone.

3) You’ll have to accept that this is not a single player game. There are other people in it, all influencing one another, and each individual is entitled to play the game however they want. There are rules to be followed, but none of them is “dynamic events are mandatory” – otherwise you’d have to start a banning campaign against anyone who chooses to do a JP or a heart during an invasion event.

Doggie.3184:

How are Scarlet and the Queen getting all this money and supplies to create 100trillion robots anyways?

My guess is high volume TP flipping

Aberrant.6749:

Soon legendaries will allow you to change the stats on the weapon when out of combat. PVT->Zerk->Whatever on the fly.

Which is kind of useless if you ask me. It only really serves as a QoL thing when changing your whole build (which is not something you’ll be doing on the fly, because it requires a completely new set of equipment and a full trait respec). Otherwise, you’ll just end up having a weapon whose stats don’t gel with the rest of your gear.

Why would you want the tonic in the first place if you only play PVP?

As a new player, you should stay as far away from crafting as possible. You will only burn your money, since crafting is not actually useful for anything other than powerleveling (for a steep price, that is) and a few recipes which for the most part you cannot make use of until you’re level capped and have a fair amount of gold to cover all the associated costs.

In the zerg you get tons of shinies. Getting shinies is fun.

Well, that’s pretty much it. If you don’t like shinies, then there’s no reason to do zergs, you’ll only be shortening the lifespan of your GPU…

Though, like the poster above said, why on earth are you not using a shortbow?

PS. And you don’t want to roll an elementalist. For zergs, what you really need is a necromancer

Kagamiku.9731:

It’s more the fact that the aetherblades are all but finished before scarlets minions bar is even 20% done.

Well, in my experience, it’s the other way round: Scarlet’s minions are 1/3 done by the time the aetherblade bar actually starts moving.

Shanaeri Rynale.6897:

Easy

Start of with 25 Exotic boxes available as a reward, and for each champion you kill that doesn’t have an event associated with it(e.g sharmans) deduct one…

Awesome! That way I can get more rewards by going afk than by actually getting kitten done. What an amazing idea!

Shall we also proceed to publicly flog anyone who dares do a JP or heart or personal story instead of joining the event?

kahzee.6042:

bhagwad.4281:

kahzee.6042:

Here’s a tip, stop farming.

Tip for what? Why would anyone not farm?

Here’s a tip, start farming.

It goes against the spirit of the game. Playing the game is more important and should be more profitable and Anet agrees

Farming is playing the game. Champion events/Gauntlet etc is part of the game just like doing jumping puzzles, running dungeons, buying and selling on the TP and doing WvW are part of the game.

I would assume they meant 6 % Condition damage.

Oh well, guess 3rd try will be the charm.

neon.4863:

PMilkos.9103:

rjnemer.7816:

CHALLENGING, PERMANENT, CONTENT THAT REWARDS YOU BASED ON RISK PLEASE.

So, more Deadeye. Yep, we saw how well that went…

Also, your capslock key seems to be stuck. You should probably try to get that fixed.

Nah, Deadeye didn’t reward you based on risk, because with the correct strategy there was no risk whatsoever. Hell, he was lucky to land one hit on my Guardian. Nothing risky about that. Granted, they probably never intended for him to be so easily killable, but… still.

Deadeye could one-shot you and you fough in a tiny arena filled with mines that could one-shot you. That, in my book, is risk.
Unfortunately, for any kind of risky fight, there will ALWAYS be ways to cheese it. Although I will agree that Deadeye was, apparently, too easy to cheese.

rjnemer.7816:

CHALLENGING, PERMANENT, CONTENT THAT REWARDS YOU BASED ON RISK PLEASE.

So, more Deadeye. Yep, we saw how well that went…

Also, your capslock key seems to be stuck. You should probably try to get that fixed.

VidGhost.3215:

lol… sell them on the TP .. there is a reason why they only cost 2s each

You could Gamble with the Clovers and maybe get high priced t6 mats but this is a gamble.. ive put in about 1000 coins, 1000 ecto’s 1000 shards 1000 Crystals

Link to clovers here – http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Mystic_Clover
I came out with nothing lost, nothing gained ( after selling everything ) and 240 Clovers

Will never do it again as i have enough for 3 Legendarily now lol .. yet to make 1 .. kitten u pre curser weapon lol 1000g worth of exotic weapons in mystic forge with ZERO pre cursers…Its been over a year started playing from the games release .. should it take this long to make a Legendary!

I guess they want me to buy it from the TP! .. back to farming gold then.

You know what you could have done with those 1000g worth of exotics? Buy MULTIPLE precursors right away. I mean seriously, if you want to get a car you don’t go and spend a fortune on the local lottery, you just go and buy the freaking car…

Gambling is something you do every once in a while just for the sake of it, it’s not an investment. That is, not unless the odds are in your favour and you can do it in large numbers. Which was incidentally the case with the clover gambling up until the last couple of patches, after which the price of many of the related materials dropped through the floor and as such the odds are once again against us.

So, on topic: just sell them on the TP for 2-3s a piece. There are some recipes that involve them as well, but for the most part they require rediculous amounts of skill points for not that impressive of a profit. Or you could just hoard them on the off-chance that they some day get some trully good use – makes little difference either way.

Well, “a little over a week” is more than enough time to gain 25 levels – I was 40+ by the time I hit my first week in GW2. Besides, when you come late to the party you should expect to miss out on some stuff until you catch up – I personally did not even bother with most Dragon Bash/Aetherblade events in my first few weeks in the game because a) I did not have the levels nor the gold nor the game knowledge to complete them and b) I was too busy getting all those levels and gold and game knowledge in the first place.

Traveller.7496:

I expected this change, but honestly, when you have failed the previous events due to many others playing stupidly, you start to feel discouraged. Spend 45 minutes mindlessly killing mobs and still be stuck at 4/5 for Vorpp’s achievement.

Plus you also get ONE shoulder scrap as a reward for the whole 45 minutes of fun if you fail.

You don’t get 1, you get 30. 1 is what you get if you’ve already done that map for the day.

Mad Rasputin.7809:

Just a big gold sink and waste of WP costs to jump into a zone with zero chance of getting into the event.

If the message in the upper right tells me there is an invasion going on, I should have a chance to get into it. If there is no chance I can participate, it shouldn’t tell me that there is.

Wasting my time, money, and has gotten me totally frustrated with the event.

Am I expected to stand around for an hour or two until an event pops and WP in at that exact moment or be out of luck?

Even the time I got into an event (failed miserably on the one OF it put me in) I didn’t see any portals to close. How in the world do you get those achievements? The portals are in the air and you can not reach them to close them.

A couple waypoint costs hardly qualify as a “big gold sink”. 2 whole silver lost, yeah, how will we ever feed the children now… come on, just pick a couple plants, kill an animal or two, and you’ll get your money back.
The events are at set times so that wasted waypoint should never happen in the first place. What should you do while waiting? I don’t know… doing your daily sounds pretty reasonable to me…

boredinbc.2786:

Perhaps Scarlet adopted a second name as a way of publicly divorcing herself from her Sylvari heritage.

Or maybe she never had that Sylvari heritage in the first place. Remember, there are many Sylvari far to the northeast of the Grove that were not born of the Pale Tree…

Korval.3751:

Reikou.7068:

Now we have cannon that says Sylvari are indeed smarter than Asura.

Sylvari are immune to Dragon Corruption.

Sylvari are able to glow…

I think its pretty much set that in Tyria, Sylvari are indeed the master race.

The Pale Tree was suppose to become the elder Jungle Dragon’s champion but rebelled… like Glint. Ventari’s Tablet changed everything. Your entire race was actually suppose to be the unwitting minions of the elder Jungle Dragon. The Nightmare Court is what the Sylvari true form is.

It’s not that Sylvari are immune to Dragon Corruption it’s that the Sylvari are already “owned” by an elder dragon; just not officially claimed thanks to the Pale Tree’s actions. Evidence? Risen cannot be Branded. Branded cannot be Icebrooded. If you look closely you will not see a Branded Sylvari or an Icebrood Sylvari. The law of ownership states that which is owned by one force cannot by nature become the property of another force.

More Evidence? Minions of elder dragons will fight minions of other elder dragons. That the Sylvari fought Zhaitan and his Risen means nothing heroic. It is their “nature” to attack their enemies.

While all that is indeed 99% certain to be true, I don’t think we necessarily need to think of the Nightmare court as the “true form” of the Sylvari. I like to think of them more as Sylvari that have lost any sort of guidance, either from the Plae Tree or from the dragon himself. And as for Mordremoth… he strikes me as odd. You see, all other dragons represent destructive aspects of nature – death, fire, ice, thunder, water – and have already started rampaging across Tyria. Yet Mordremoth is the dragon of… trees and flowers I guess, and he hasn’t even bothered anyone so far. He just seems to me more like the kind of dragon that cleans up the mess of the others after they’re done. Which leaves me to believe that the Sylvari were created specifically to repopulate Tyria after it’s destroyed by the other 5 dragons. Which means… we are the master race

Celestial exotic gear will most probably still have more total stat points than most ascended sets. As such no, it’s not pointless to make one right now, especially since we don’t have the slightest clue as to how soon™ the introduction of ascended gear will be. Get your gear with all its juicy stats now, benefit from it and who knows, you might actually find out that you liked your previous gear set more and as such save yourself the time you would have put in making ascended celestial.

PS. Something very important that we do not know is if ascended armor/weapons will have upgrade slots, or just infusion slots like ascended trinkets. Because if they don’t that’s a very good reason for certain builds to stay with exotics (although I would assume that Anet would have forseen that, because having exotics be potentially better that ascended would be absurd).

Katran.9186:

Sucellus.3749:

Lucky you I was waiting in overflow, and when I finally could travel to the homeworld the event was over.

But overflows have same events with 10 min delay.

Overflows should have the same events with a 10 minute delay. Unfortunately, kitten’s broken… again.

Well, first of all, you won’t find exotic back items on the TP – only masterworks and rares. Exotics you’ll find from guild vendors and temple vendors. Ascended you can craft in the MF.
The quality doesn’t really matter though – back items barely anything more stat-wise than an extra gem slot, regardless of quality. From rare to exotic the stat difference is just 2×2 stats total. For ascended it’s probably 2×3, if we include the gems, still not worth it unless you want to infuse it afterwards.

Underwater combat doesn’t get much love because it’s just awful. We have an extremely limited selection of weapons and half of our utilities are disabled, meaning that the chances that we’re able to piece together a build that’s semi-not-useless are extremely thin (as a power necromancer, the only useful thing that I have underwater is swiftness.. so I can get out of water faster) Not to mention that the combat is extremely clunky, and that times tenfold when you’re fighting near the water surface.
Underwater combat doesn’t just need some love, It needs a complete redo.

aelflune.8590:

In light of the logic of these posts, I fully support people wp’ing back and deliberately wasting farmers’ time by dragging out the fights.

The farmers’ right to farm doesn’t trump your right to get enjoyment out of trolling them. After all, the world doesn’t revolve around them.

Well, if you took your butt off the floor with your own 2 legs and queued up again then yeah, you can legitimately do whatever you want with your round in the arena. Just note that by the time you die again I’ll be off farming in one of the 17 other arenas, so you can definitely write that rez off.

Dub.1273:

Power does always have DR. If you add 100 power to 916 Power (base), thats about 11% damage increase. If you add 100 power to 3000 power, it’s just a 3% increase.

That’s not diminishing returns. 100 power is 100 power regardless of how much you previously have. Diminishing returns would be to reduce all bonus power by, say, 50% beyond the 3000 mark, so that at 2900 power 100 more would bring you to 3000, and 100 more than that would only bring you to 3050. What it is is a decrease in relative value – but diminishing returns it is not.

Depends what you would trade it for. The dyes are the least valuable thing you could trade yoour laurels for. T6 material bags give much more worth per laurel. And if we look at ascended trinkets then we’re looking at 10g+ of value per laurel.

Luigi.1584:

I hate people who cant spend their 10 secconds of farming to help someone get up.

Those 10s spent rezing is not a problem. Those 3 minutes waiting in the queue after the rez are.

We all have the same rights when it comes to who gets to enter the arena. That is, those of us that are alive. The dead have no rights – they are dead and they belong with the dead. If you want to enter the arena, then don’t die. Simple. Your time and enjoyment are no more important than other people’s time and enjoyment, so don’t expect anyone to go out of their way to help you just because you think you’re a unique snowflake… And if you want to QQ go do it at ArenaNet who designed this awful system in the first place…

Sajuuk.4973:

PMilkos.9103:

Everything is account bound (you should have honestly known that already)

But in crafting an item. I’ve crafted stuff before and sold them on TP this is the first time I’ve come across crafting an item and it was account bound. So No not everything is account bound.

Eveything concerning celestial items is account bound. Charged quartz, inscriptions, final product, everything.

This is also the first item that is time-gated in such a way. Honestly, the moment you saw that you can only craft 1 charged quartz per day, and that it is account-bound, you should have gone and found out what’s what.

MAGpie.7962:

Thank you for proving me right

MAGpie.7962:

PMilkos.9103:

I would really love to see you argue how the value of your 2 silver and 40 seconds is greater than that of my 3 minutes and 2 gold (I wish that was 2 gold btw, I’m farming 3G Ragemaw so it’s actually a bit over 1 gold… which is still 50 times more than 2 silver anyway)

Argue with you? How about no.

Well, since you have no arguements anyway, I guess not argueing is indeed the only way…

MAGpie.7962:

Its not about the money. It is the principle of how people farming that event, act. Lets just call them for arguments sake; selfish. Kinda like society in general nowadays actually. Care only for one self, for no one will care for you otherwise.

You expect people to sacrifice 50-100 times more than what you sacrifice on the name of some kind of principle? Are you not being more selfish yourself?
Here’s the principle I go by: always go for the smallest possible sacrifice. Which is why I do not revive anyone while I’m farming and why I have no problem whatsoever moving on to a different arena if my previous one gets crowded.

laokoko.7403:

My question is should I actually hold item for a year?

lets say I bought 30,000 quartz crytal at 40 copper each. Should I just dump everything at 65 copper and take my 20-40% profit and leave?

Since I have like 200 stack of dragon coffer, 70 stack of dragon food, 40 stack of zaittaffy, 25 stack of molten core, and many stack of other thing. I keep waiting for them to go up.

The truth is if I just sell everything when they go up 30-50%, and buyout another and redo the process, I probably make much more money. Instead of waiting for month/year for them to go up.

I think taking those 30-50% profit and dump to move on to the next thing is probably the better way to do it?

Watch as the prices rise everyday. Eventually they will reach a plateau, after which demand will start becoming lower than supply and prices will fall. Unless you have storage space issues (not unlikely with those 120 hypothetical stacks of quartz) you want to dump all those stacks during that plateau for maximum profit. Alternatively, you can wait until the release of ascended armor and gamble on whether or not quartz will be used on that (I personally have about 3000 crystals which I mostly keep for personal use when and if ascended celestial gear ever requires them)

Quartz, Zaitaffy etc are not exactly great investments however. They take too much space for minimal profit. So, if you ever find yourself with a bunch of money to invest, buy skins instead. A stack of Quartz would have given you about 1g profit by now. A stack of Dessert Roses on the other hand would have given you 875g profit (if you had 750g to buy one, that is)

Everything is account bound (you should have honestly known that already)