Guild Wars 2

Saiyan.1704:

Shintei.9061:

Saiyan.1704:

Sly.9518:

Lulz oh no he asked for a VPN lulz you have other proof but won’t provide it I wonder why. And it’s funn you can easily make any discord name whatever you want it to be so again show some real proof. It’s not like it’s hard to change your nickname in Discord or anything /s

The reason you won’t post any real proof is probably due to you not having any lulz.

If all the players were on VPN’s, that leaves a reasonable doubt.

Anet has the proof if their investigation team has half a networking-brain on their shoulders. They may not catch the booster players playing on their account but they sure as hell can remove the rewards from the account owners.

To top it off the guild are bragging about it… this really isn’t rocket science.

How do you know if the ip addresses are from the VPN or not?

Depends on the VPN software but most will show the IP in a different location than the user normally login from. Some tether across the globe going from server to server, France, India, Dallas, etc. etc.

Why would 5 players suddenly login at different parts of the globe for a tournament? Even if they attempt the best local server possible for ping related performance, that’s still no where these account owners typically login from.

But there are many VPN services allowing users to choose the location they want, e.g. US, Japan, India, etc.
The ISP changes the hosts’ address too, my ip address just changed 3 to 4 days ago, not sure if it was the ISP or just the DHCP. My location shown on anet as well as the ip address are also changed, but the physical location of the host remains the same.
With my limited networking knowledge, I don’t think we can tell if someone is using VPN, maybe reverse DNS lookup and the VPN servers list can help?

Saiyan.1704:

Sly.9518:

Lulz oh no he asked for a VPN lulz you have other proof but won’t provide it I wonder why. And it’s funn you can easily make any discord name whatever you want it to be so again show some real proof. It’s not like it’s hard to change your nickname in Discord or anything /s

The reason you won’t post any real proof is probably due to you not having any lulz.

If all the players were on VPN’s, that leaves a reasonable doubt.

Anet has the proof if their investigation team has half a networking-brain on their shoulders. They may not catch the booster players playing on their account but they sure as hell can remove the rewards from the account owners.

To top it off the guild are bragging about it… this really isn’t rocket science.

How do you know if the ip addresses are from the VPN or not?

How is spvp dying if it is already dead? The ranking system and the rewards were the promotions to attract pve heroes before spvp was fully dead, and this ranking system gave it a final blow. Without talking about the rotation or the match ups, you do not see people stacking boons at the beginning, and you see most thieves cap home, I really thought they were trolling when I saw it the first few times. These things were common sense…

Would dagger suit the name mirage more?

Let’s readyup and dream about it

Trixie.7614:

First, this is not the bug report forum.

Second, this is not exactly a bug. Every skill with channelling works like that and it’s because the time needed to channel the skill is calculated on the skill use.

So it is a bug. Not a bug in stomp but in quickness, which is still a bug.

Dondagora.9645:

Shintei.9061:

Dondagora.9645:

Echo of Memory… Anyone see the humor here?

Echo…

of Memory…

Continuous Block…

Get it?

No.

Mimic, whose counterpart was Echo, was originally a skill which created an orb around you which you could use to absorb a projectile to release at a later time with Echo. However, after absorbing the projectile, Mimic would then block attacks for the duration of the channel whether it be range or melee.

Echo of Memory right now is essentially that lost tidbit of Mimic which we were upset about losing.

So, this is an echo of our memory.

Dondagora.9645:

Echo of Memory… Anyone see the humor here?

Echo…

of Memory…

Continuous Block…

Get it?

No.

Yes!!! Yes, please!!!
Oh, it doesn’t affect me

This one…
http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/File:Bronze_Shield.jpg

First of all, highest personal score means nothing. I can be the highest on the scoreboard but contribute nothing to the team all the time if I want. So forget about the personal score unless you have a 500 – 500 close game.

Let’s focus on what you want to know now. It’s simple. Besides the fact that mesmer is kind of subpar, most mesmers out there are terrible peasants. They know nothing about mesmer.

A short answer to “your” question is “yes”.

I did gain some confidence to the devs when I read the Mesmer changes. However, I, then, have looked into the thief changes and I lost hope on the devs.

So if you ask me the Mesmer changes only, then yes. If you ask me the specialization of all class, then the answer will also be yes but my opinion of the devs become worse.

Fay.2735:

I did say that it was up for being changed I’m not truly raging. I was half joking, half serious. I love the super adventure box monkey idea. That would be hilarious! If they changed the transform for mesmer it should be something really cool and trollish like… Turning people into giant butterflies mwhuahaha!

OMG! That’s what I was thinking, turning people into purple butterflies

Offerande.5240:

Hey peeps,

Me never understand the meta builds for Mesmers in WvW. I play Mesmer now more that two years and 2309 hours. I make this build. Works for me more than fine in WvW

Pu-Power Mesmer for WvW, heavy dps, good speed and sufficient protection:
http://gw2skills.net/editor/?fhAQNAW8dlsnpItVpxMNcrNSphYycHJ9iAbK5rUA-T1BBABA8EEyS5nh6WKa/BGVCywFJoS1fCAgAczbG2M28mP6RP6RP6R7m38m38m3sUARMGA-w

Very powerfull build

Please allow me to ask you some question about the build. Why do you have clone death traits, Crippling Dissipation and Debilitating Dissipation, when you don’t have enough clone generation(like Deceptive Evasion)?
Beside that, Can I run Bountiful Interruption instead of Chaotic Dampening since I have Chaos Storm and Magic Bullet. Also, can I use Mantra of Recovery instead of Mirror then replace Mantra of Concentration by Decoy. Is that okay?

http://gw2skills.net/editor/?fhAQNAW8alsnpItVpxMNcrNSphYycHJ9iAbK5rUA-TFCBwA10NIRJIO1fA8EAyq8r4+DJMBx4iAAA-w
here you go, your mantra build. I’ve changed the weapons, armors and back item to exotic since many people don’t have ascended.

phokus.8934:

This build… the not knowing what PU means… random traits… 2300 hours played? I suspect the OP plays with a blind fold or is blind.

No, this build isn’t with random traits. It’s a mantra build. He just doesn’t know it. :P
Don’t tell him though.

Offerande.5240:

Shintei.9061
I know what I’m doing. The focus is for speed. The pistol I use in combat. The staff I use for long distances and defense foes on a wall.
You need the focus for running part’s of a guard/war that give you speed things. For playing scout in WvW you need focus.
The pistol does serious damage to defending enemies.
Staff or greatsword are very good for long range fights. Staff also good for close fights in WvW, not always.
This build is no standard PU build is more hybrid whit DPS

It ain’t what you don’t know that gets you into trouble. It’s what you know for sure that just ain’t so. – Mark Twain

A very good example of proving the quote is right.

Elia.7193:

There is no PU in the build. Also there is duellists discipline on the traits but no pistol as weapon

This is a mind game. He is trying to make you think he is using a pistol.

Offerande.5240:

Hey peeps,

Me never understand the meta builds for Mesmers in WvW. I play Mesmer now more that two years and 2309 hours. I make this build. Works for me more than fine in WvW

Pu-Power Mesmer for WvW, heavy dps, good speed and sufficient protection:
http://gw2skills.net/editor/?fhAQNAW8dlsnpItVpxMNcrNSphYycHJ9iAbK5rUA-T1BBABA8EEyS5nh6WKa/BGVCywFJoS1fCAgAczbG2M28mP6RP6RP6R7m38m38m3sUARMGA-w

Very powerfull build

A very good example to prove that the time you spent on doing something doesn’t make you understand what you are doing

I don’t find it too hard(it is a bit harder, though) to hit my shatter in larger scale fights since most wvw players don’t know how to fight. Many of them cannot even react when an attack is going to hit them. Clones positioning and shatter timing play a huge role in mesmer (shatter) mechanics. If you find it hard to hit your shatters, you might have to re-consider them

moa is a transform skill

Allow me to present the shintei notation to you :P
The trait lines are:
Domination: I
Dueling: II
Chaos: III
Inspiration: IV
Illusion: V
The top major traits(from left to right): 7, 8, 9
The middle major traits(from left to right): 4, 5, 6
The bottom major traits(from left to right): 1, 2, 3

Example: I(183), II(783),III ( 129 )
Yes, I got this idea from number pad, so no I won’t use 1 for top, 2 for middle, 3 for bottom.
Umm, maybe it’s better.
Example: I(313), II(113),III ( 331 )
nope, I still prefer the first one.

edited – I don’t like using names when telling people builds since most of them don’t know which one I’m talking about, but rather just tell them the trait number I’m using.

Kicast.1459:

So in the end .. what someone can do..engi should be able to do it better
Makes sense

Yes, it makes sense. I’m just wondering what type of engineer they are. Civil, electronic or something else.

go 11100(domination/dueling/chaos)

Vampirism rune is good because helseth said so. However, he said pack is better in solo queue

1. use phase retreat
2. swap to focus while running
3. traveller runes
4. bring a friend
5. pack runes?

why do you need your stats anyway. Mesmer is terrible at large scale fight. Just make sure you use gs#1 to “touch” the opponents who are going to die.

Most people playing with the meta build because they want to win. A lot of mesmer skills and builds are so fun to play. However, when it comes to a play-to-win situation, such as ESL or WTS, mesmer will never be the first choice in any situation.

As mesmers appear in those higher skilled matches, everyone of them are using the shatter build. This shows mesmers only have one viable build(for those who want to argue about this, prove your statement in the tournaments). This is why the mesmer pvp community is running the shatter spec a lot.

There are some builds that are fun to play but ineffective. However, you will not see those builds often in ESL because the players want to win. With that said, ignore all tournaments and just play the builds you are having fun with.

On the other hand, you do not have to main a profession to play that profession in the stream. By looking at how the developers balance the game, I assume they are terrible players and have little to no understanding of how pvp works. I, personally, will not looking forward to it.

Fay.2357:

You must go full tank or you will fail miserably.

wait, so go full tank can survive in that situation?!

Firstly, instant cast skills can be used while performing other action. The Prestige is not an instant cast skill but It has no cast time. Some example for instant cast skills would be: the shatter skills, blink, phase retreat, and chaos armor. We do use The Prestige for stomping but mainly because of the stealth and not due to the blind.

The reason why elementalists’ lightning flash works is because it is an instant cast skill. This means you can time your lightning flash to blind your opponent’s skill 2 in downstate, so it does not interrupt your stomp.

However, The Prestige is not an instant cast skill. Assuming you get revealed as soon as you used The Prestige, and your stomp animation is already begun. For stupid opponents, they may just use their skill 2 so that skill will miss. If you are against opponents who have finished primary school(or just with common sense), they will first get rid of the blind just by pressing 1. After that, they can use their skill 2 which will interrupt your stomp.

Maybe try not to compare mesmer’s skills to other professions since it only makes you salty.

ASP.8093:

Can you imagine how annoying and random it’d make the mirror matchup, though?

when it comes to mirror matchup, it all depends on the opener and the personal skill

I use gs/sw+t or gs/staff

Clones do not consist of elements that make our body, such as carbon. This means the clones are not us. The only similarity is the appearance. However, this does not mean the clones and I are the same. Neither in terms of the elements nor the quantum state of the particle.

Now, let’s assume the clones are exactly like us, not just the appearance. This means the clones contain the particles which form our body. Once the clones are shattered, all the particles that form the clones are gone. However, the conservation of mass tells us that mass cannot be created or destroyed. From Einstein’s mass-energy equivalence ,
E = mc^(2) (1)
where E is energy in Joules(J), m is mass in kilograms(kg), c is the speed of light in meter per second(m/s), shows a relationship between mass and energy, without relativistic effect because the speed of the clones are not fast enough to take account . All the all the mass of the particles which form my mesmer will transfer to energy.

Let’s say my mesmer has a mass of 60 kg. By shattering one clone means a mass of 60 kg is transferring to energy. Using (1), gives (5.4 ×10^(18)) J. This shows 60 kg can release a massive amount of energy which is more than a thousand times destructive than a nuclear bomb.

Conclusion
Firstly, I do not shatter carelessly in the current situation of mesmer. However, if the clones are described as above, I will start shattering whenever I can, without timing, nor awareness of opponent’s protection boon, since no matter of what build the opponents is running, they will be downed once they get hit by one shatter. At the time, mesmer will rule the world of Tyria and the mists. Suck that ANet!! uhh…hope it is not just an assumption that the clones are like us.

edit – At the time, IP is not needed for a power shatter build

What game mode do you have problem as a mesmer? PvP, WvW or PvE?
What build and weapon set are you using?
In PvP: As a mesmer, you cannot be as tanky as a guardian so you will have to kite a lot and try not to tank too much damage.
In PvE: same as above(not including dungeons since you only have to stack)

To answer your question, “how do you stay alive as Mesmer”, I would say not to get hit.

Here is a list of mesmers who can help you a lot more:
https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/professions/mesmer/List-Mesmer-Specialists/first#post4906693

Is the shatter list full?

Aylpse.6280:

How do I kill them?

Kill them before they kill you

There is an armor set, heritage armor (light). this armor set with (bonetti’s) rapier will look like gw1 mesmer…in my opinion.

Elxdark.9702:

http://www.twitch.tv/chaithh Engineer from The abjured.

http://www.twitch.tv/noscoc Necro from The abjured.

http://www.twitch.tv/romoncoke Warrior from oRng.

http://www.twitch.tv/phantaram Elementalist from The abjured.

http://www.twitch.tv/sizer2654 Thief from TCG.

All of them are “high rated pvp streamers” as you say.
All of them are in top teams.
All of them usually stream everyday.

Pls.

http://www.twitch.tv/magictoker Thief from abjured

http://www.twitch.tv/superchey Elementalist from Orange Logo

http://www.twitch.tv/thundercatshoooo Elementalist from Hail Mary

http://www.twitch.tv/thelordhelseth Mesmer from The Civilized Gentlemen

http://www.twitch.tv/hansawesome Mesmer from Dankening

No!!! None of them stream everyday

pls

I see no reason why it won’t be in ranked because what’s the difference between them other than unranked has courtyard, skyhammer and spirit watch.

I would play thief.

Or if I don’t need DE, I would go 22222 in pvp, with Mirror, Feedback, Mimic, signet of illusions and Time Warp.

omg, now I understand why thieves had a hard time catching up the opponents

I disagree with your mesmer changes (ignoring other proposed changes) :
bountiful interruption – why do you nerf it?
reduce shatters’ CD by 15% – lol? Can you do some calculations first?
reduce the reduction of shatters’ CD from illusion Trait line – I see what you did there. Let’s nerf shatter build to force people playing lockdown build. Nice job! That will work…maybe.

Besides that, I found your reasons behind these changes are quite…hilarious:
lockdown does less damage than shatter – what are you talking about? You don’t know how to deal damage as a lockdown mesmer, don’t you?
shatters’ CD are too long for lockdown build – lol? I confirm that you don’t know how to play lockdown build. This build is not built around shatters.
lockdown build has less survivability than shatter build – How? Mesmer’s survivability mainly comes from positioning and kiting. Those panic buttons will not save you forever. In fact, many mesmers have claimed that lockdown build has a higher chance to win against thieves, the hard counter for mesmers, than shatter build.
lockdown build gives up portal – So? There is a significant amount of shatter mesmers prefer mantra of resolve rather than portal, even in top tier team. Go check out Supcutie’s build.

The reason why top tier mesmers are not running the lockdown build is because they feel more comfortable with the shatter build that they have been using for a long time. Furthermore, it requires a lot of efforts and times to learn and to practice the lockdown build, since this build is totally different to shatter build. Your proposed mesmer changes make mesmers doubt your experience of mesmer.

Here are the links to Supcutie’s video guide – http://youtu.be/ZoCMS-0WGX4

and

to Supcutie’s guide – https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/professions/mesmer/Supcutie-s-Comprehensive-PvP-Shatter-Guide/first

I highly recommend you to check out his guide! Also, the guide is always up to date.

I really can’t remember which thread it was that explains the clones’ movements, but I do remember that it was a person from OMFG wrote that. Perhaps you can ask them about the clones.

Maybe play some CS or SC2 to improve targeting? Supcutie has a video guide that explains how he can play against other shatter mesmer. Additionally, there is a thread explaining the difference between mesmers and clones but I forgot the title of that thread.

Xyonon.3987:

I have a question about shatter too: Do you guys shatter with F1 first or do you shatter F3 for vuln or sometimes even F2 for block proc instead of boonrip. Sure F3 -> F1 makes F1 stronger, but sometimes I feel like I already could have used F1 once until I got a good F3 F1 combo ready. Also: do you only shatter with 3 clones or sometimes melee (IP) with 1 or 2?

greez pvp noob ^^’’

For me, I don’t shatter F3 for vulnerability but for daze.
It’s depending on the situation for using 3 clones shatter or 1-2 clones.

I don’t like the way a human male holding staff. It looks stupid.

sword off hand isn’t a melee weapon, it can be ranged weapon. There are builds that uses sword off hand in PvE but I guess that’s not what you want. You can check the build Buton(Ross Biddle.2367) is using.

fighting against them, but working with them will also be great.

oh yeh Daishi.6027 is right, sometimes(or most of the time?) it is better to shatter without all 3 clones up. there is a basic combo for gs as an example: mirror blade, mind wreck, mind stab. From this combo, you will only have a maximum of 2 shatters(with IP) but still do good damage, especially against zerkers. there are also situations where you need to shatter before the clones get cleaved, but those 3 questions will always help newer shatter mesmers to not wasting their shatters.

Steinpilz.5078:

What is a good moment to shatter?
I can do no damage with shatter at all, but when I have mesmers as opponents they always manage to immobilize & shatter me in an instant.
How do you do that?

It’s simple. The moment before you shatter, ask yourself 3 questions:
1. Do you have weakness?
2. Does your target have protection?
3. Will your shatterS hit your target?

For 1, Your shatters do 50% less damage while you have weakness. Try to avoid shatter when you have weakness (by waiting for it to run out or cleanse it).

For 2, Your target takes 33% less damage. If you have traited Shattered Concentration, your first shatter (out of your 3-4 shatter) will do 33% less damage. Try to avoid shatter when the target has protection. Note that, sometimes you may need to shatter the protection off if you traited for boon removal.

For 3, Will your target dodges or absorbs (with skills) your shatters. Usually you will need to bait their dodges and the skills that can absorb damage before you shatter. However, you can just shatter your target if you can position your clones(and perhaps yourself if you have IP) properly. That is the “Triangle” which is like the bermuda triangle, you will see your target disappear within the triangle.

These are the basics of F1 shatter (perhaps F2 too?). Note that the tactics for F3 shatter is different.

Jurica.1742:

Which topic would you guys like to see in the next video?

against thieves