Guild Wars 2

I left this game almost a year ago, tired of the cookie-cutter hotbar “combat” system. Has anything changed since then? Are fights now something to actually look forward to or are they still just time sinks against enemies with way too many hit points and 2-hit kills where you run backwards and hit keys 1-5?

I’d rather not waste the time reinstalling 25 gigs and to discover nothing fundamentally different and delete it again.

It’s apparently how AreaNet handles gameplay design: Don’t make the game more challenging by requiring movement or creative use of game skills, just make the enemies tougher! Player figure out a way to get past that? Make them invincible!

It’s still a MMO so nope.

Just buy Torchlight 2 instead. Endless entertainment for less than half the price.

Moka.9641:

I don’t find it that lonely if you’re actively attempt to socialize. Most people respond favorably

Sorry, I’m not a fan of talking to myself.

A combat system that isn’t boring as hell.

Then you’d just have towns empty of NPCs too. Because no one ever goes back to lower-level areas and that won’t encourage them.

I would think the other people playing it. But I can’t say for sure since I never see anyone else playing it.

This is the problem I’ve had with all three of the guilds I’ve been in. They all had voice comms too but no one ever uses them.

I’d just make dual pistol thieves fun and useful.

I’d love to try a dungeon but I have no one to do them with.

Your problem isn’t AreaNet, it’s PayPal.

notebene.3190:

Shooopa.5632:

Edge.4180:

Level scaling allows virtually the entire world to be used as end-game content. You can find challenges no matter where in the world you go, and can play anywhere without fear of ruining the challenge for others. Dynamic events would become a joke if one high level player was capable of single handedly wiping out an entire low level enemy force.

No it doesn’t. Because the drops aren’t scaled up to their levels. So why would anyone who is level 80 bother with a lower level zone? They’re not going to get anything out of it.

I don’t get a blue+ 80 ‘every’ time there’s a drop, and sometimes the ‘on level’ item is 76+, but I do get items. I would say I get more ‘actual’ 80s recently, not that I think that matters (or care to wear them, at least in armor, since I made my exotics). I’ve gotten the rare yellow drop to disenchant to ectos. I sell the blues and greens for the cash. The whites get salvaged and I’m often surprised at how much of the higher tier materials I get from those.

Is it faster and do I get rich as fast as node teleporting, dungeon runs until my fingers bleed, running the same Orr events over and over and over? Maybe not. But it’s fun to go ‘work’ lower level zones alone, with friends, or just to lend a hand in areas you remember needed bodies for DEs.

I love the downscaling, especially getting to play my main with two friends who just started, but it also makes farming for lower level mats fun. I seem to get a ‘lot’ of dyes compared to everyone else complaining they don’t drop any more. I wonder if that’s because I like to play the early levels with my main?

Well that’s the key thing – you actually have another person to go around the game with. I can’t find anyone else anywhere.

Part of that reason I’m sure is because there’s no real incentive to visit the lower level areas once someone hits 80. Almost everyone wants exotic and ascended gear then.

When you’re trying to explore the maps alone, the level scaling becomes a huge problem.

This is one thing that absolutely HAS to go.

Yes I do understand it’s part of the whole, “You’re an invading army in an area the enemy really does not want to give up” theme but if it is something that denies a player the ability to go somewhere they should be able to, it is bad design.

There are one-hit kill enemies though. They’re called “Champions”.

Long time FPS and other action games player here. I’ve been around since robo-Hitler exploded in Wolfenstein. Shooters are my oldest love, but I’ve played everything from platformers to hack-and-slashes like Diablo 2.

GW2 was my very first MMO RPG. I was interested in the talk about it being more complicated than just moving up to an enemy and then spamming the mouse buttons or keys until it died and the absolutely amazing art.

I’m more than a little disappointed in the game because a few weeks after its release the multiplayer element has completely vanished from not one, but three different servers I’ve played on. Being in two different guilds hasn’t helped either.

I don’t even really care about the new “ascended” items half as much as anyone else – I just wanted to try a MMO that wasn’t a WoW Skinner box. And at first it was great – when I was able to play it as a MMO and not a single player game.

Dogblaster.6713:

Shooopa.5632:

You haven’t actually played this game lately have you?

Well I am enjoying Guild Wars 2 also. Have 1150 hours played and almost done with my legendary.

I have played every mmorpgs released in past 9 years, and Guild Wars 2 is one of the best I have ever played. Thank you Arenanet

If you are not having fun, thats your problem but there are hundered of thousands players that are having fun, these players are enyjoing the game, not having problems like complaining people here on the forums

Btw shoopa. Go sleep already, I am curious how longer will it take for you to actually stop feeling betrayed and move along, either stop playing or get over it .. month, two, year?

Oh ho ho, now personal attacks eh? And you’re insinuating I’m the one being immature?

Do your parents know you’re using their computer to talk to strangers?

TxJBxT.9370:

Shooopa.5632:

Edge.4180:

Level scaling allows virtually the entire world to be used as end-game content. You can find challenges no matter where in the world you go, and can play anywhere without fear of ruining the challenge for others. Dynamic events would become a joke if one high level player was capable of single handedly wiping out an entire low level enemy force.

No it doesn’t. Because the drops aren’t scaled up to their levels. So why would anyone who is level 80 bother with a lower level zone? They’re not going to get anything out of it.

100% map completion. I go back to low level areas all the time. Don’t generalize just because you don’t do it.

I was trying to do it but because no one else was I gave up. I’ve explored over 80% of the world on one character and 40% on another. I stopped because doing it in a MMO by myself was defeating the entire purpose I bought the game.

And people are farming Orr and the Fractals for new gear because they want the rares and exotics. They aren’t wandering about anywhere else.

I for one sure don’t. But ever zone that’s not a level 80 one has been a wasteland.

If that doesn’t change I’m asking for a refund because it’s a MMO without the multiplayer.

Edge.4180:

Level scaling allows virtually the entire world to be used as end-game content. You can find challenges no matter where in the world you go, and can play anywhere without fear of ruining the challenge for others. Dynamic events would become a joke if one high level player was capable of single handedly wiping out an entire low level enemy force.

No it doesn’t. Because the drops aren’t scaled up to their levels. So why would anyone who is level 80 bother with a lower level zone? They’re not going to get anything out of it.

Nevux.5731:

Whats sPvP? sexy PVP?

So you play story for gear out your PVP toon? so confused.

Structured Player Versus Player.

Being able to use better equipment. …Which you may be able to get and use anyway in PvP…

Ummmm… Can I get back to you on that?

Ludacrits.3857:

Seriously people, quite your kittening already. What is the problem with having to put in a little work to get a reward. Shall everything just be handed to you regardless of how little work you put in? If you play this game with any kind of regularity, ascended gear shouldn’t be an issue. I like to get my hands dirty and come out the other end feeling better for the effort. Socialism works like that. It sounds like a great idea until the people who work their kitten off get the same thing as those who do nothing. Then, the hard workers quite working cus why should they? I understand that some of you are pissed because you work so hard for something and then poof, its crap or can be had for much cheaper then next week. Ever drive a new car off the lot? Guess how much it’s worth now? Point is, people need something to work toward or they get bored and stop trying/playing. Quit looking for hand outs, pull up your sleeves and get your hands a little dirty. My only suggestion is to find a way for players to get the ascended gear through WvW because not everybody is into dungeon grinding AND since WvW is such a huge part of the game, it should be possible. A large percentage of you have blown this ascended gear thing WAY overboard. The stats aren’t even that much better anyway. If they do offer newer gear they can always nerf the criteria for the older stuff, making it easier to get to the new. They have to do something to keep people playing, unless you enjoy walking around Lions Arch listening to NPC’s and well, nothing.

How about they make some incentive for higher level players to revisit zones instead of just farming Fractals like bots?

Oh wait, sorry. You’re just here to miss the point. My fault.

darkwombat.3695:

I have been playing since its release and head start. Its an awesome game, dont let the vocal minority get you down.

What does that say about people who dislike this game but continue to fester in these forums?

I feel sorry for them.

Oh maybe it says they’re people who bought the game and now that it’s suddenly taken a swan dive in quality after only a three months they’re not happy about it? But nah, what am I saying? They must not have valid points or grievances with the game that could be solved to improve it! Why that’s just inconceivable.

Not unless they tackle the one issue that shouldn’t have even been an issue in the first place:

The lack of other human players actually playing instead of farming level 80 zones and dungeons.

To an enemy? Sure. They’d waste $60 on a so-called MMO without multiplayer.

To a friend? Well what kind of friend would I be to do that?

You haven’t actually played this game lately have you?

Back in the days when other people actually played this game it wasn’t a terrible idea. It kept people from killing everything on the map before you even got to look at it.

But now that everyone just plays the fractal dungeons like bots, it makes playing the game irritatingly unfair.

1. When did you begin playing? (post bw’s)

A week after release.

2. how many hours total do you have? (/age)

No way to tell.

3. What’s your most gold banked so far?

40-something? Don’t know, not like it matters now.

4. Do you have a max level character (s)? (number if more than one)

Yes. One.

5. List 1-3 areas / zones / events / tp; where you spend most of your time for income.

Usually did dailies in starter areas because they’re the only ones easy enough to do alone.

6. Do you mainly use MF or not?

What?

7. Have you ever got an exotic weapon from a mob? If so, how many and total?

No.

8. Have you ever got an exotic weapon from a chest? If so, how many and total?

No.

9. What’s the most number of rare weapons you have looted in one day or 8hrs time?

0.

10. How many rare or exotic weapons do you “expect” to loot in one hour of time?

0.

11. How many lodestones have you looted total so far? (all types)

None.

12. Do you craft? If so, do you have a 400 crafter? if so, how many?

Weaponsmithing up to 325 or something.

13. Do you sell your looted crafting mats? (specify optional)

Only overstock.

14. Do you feel your return, (in terms of items, completion, income, etc) for your time, has been worth it?

Absolutely not.

15. In ONE word, what needs improved most; from your perspective?

Too much wrong with this game to cover in one word.

Welcome to Guild Wars 2! A MMO minus the “multiplayer” aspect.

I haven’t played for a few days, tried the Lost Shore event and quit immediately. It wasn’t fun in the slightest because fighting enemies who soak up 2 minutes worth of damage dealing and can kill you with three hits is never fun.

I’ll be nicer when they start actually paying attention to people who are bringing up legitimate complaints. Especially about the lack of other players throughout the zones.

Exactly what I’m wondering.

Why isn’t the endgame spread all over the zones to keep people exploring and wandering about in the game? As things are now everyone’s funneled into 2-3 areas because nothing for their level comes from anywhere else. It’s just horrible design.

Grimshetara.3265:

Is there really a need for name calling? Surely, I’d think you’d be more sensible than that. Anyone can insult, but it takes restrain and maturity to not insult.

You just blatantly accuse the OP of being a liar and say I’m the one who’s insulting?

That’s the last thing we need right now. What we really do need are incentive for people to still visit the already existing zones instead of grinding the level 80 ones 24/7.

MisterEction.9382:

The ability to play solo is all those of us who can’t grind for ascended gear have left.

We shouldn’t even have to play solo though! This is supposed to be a MMO isn’t it? It should be so easy to run into other people it’s almost difficult to do things solo!

Asking for refunds because the game is really a single-player RPG instead of a MMO is a much more sensible idea.

monepipi.5160:

$60 = ~8 movies = ~16 hours
$60 = skyrim = a few days/weeks of entertainment
$60 = GW2 = ~3 months worth of playtime already

Seriously some of you guys complain as though the folks at ANET owe you 1 million dollars, everyone else is enjoying the new content——FOTM is so much fun, thumbs up to whoever made it. It plays like a puzzle game without hordes of trash mobs. Awesome. <3

I only got 1 1/2 months of entertainment out of GW2. I got much, much, MUCH more from Skyrim, thank you.

People would be enjoying the new content if other people were actually playing it instead of grinding for gear.

Either grinding the new dungeons or playing other games.

The latter is what I’m doing because if this is the best MMO the market has to offer, screw MMOs.

Snoring Sleepwalker.9073:

Shooopa.5632:

Actually they have a third path which they’re already taking:

Plagiarize the kitten out of World of Warcraft because it’s popular.

Has that ever worked ?

No but that’s never stopped anyone before.

A game that’s fun to play.

I know, what an inconceivable concept!

I tried it yesterday.

Even with the upscaling, the crabs can kill in three hits and take at least 3 minutes of kiting to bring down. EACH.

Is this what some people consider fun? Do those same people also think smashing their fingers in a doorway is also fun?

You can thank AreaNet’s lack of any halfway decent planning for this.

There’s simply zero incentive for people to help each other out in this game thanks to level scaling and all the best rewards only being found in specific areas.

What is so “interesting” about an enemy that behaves just like any other, takes minutes of kiting to kill but now only just takes three hits to kill you?

It’s precisely because of level scaling that gear has become the most important thing in this game.

Stat boosts from gear are not scaled by the game. So if you have better gear than someone else you do have an advantage over them in your stats.

To grind for the new Ascended gear which gives significant stat boosts to all attributes instead of just being for resistance against the “agony” condition.

Not at all similar in the least, but Borderlands 2 never fails to be immensely entertaining.

Other human players playing instead of grinding dungeons and Orr.

XIIIBlade.6574:

…hopefully the direction this game develops to will benefit all to enjoy and keep it great…

It won’t. The new equipment tiers just amplified the problems you described.

This game? Skill? This game? Guild Wars 2?

This game where you just hit a few hotkeys a few times and hope your enemy dies before you do?

Which game are you really thinking of?

What’s the point of even reporting bots anymore? The game is being made for bots only or people who think grinding poorly designed “dungeons” are fun.

I think they’ve figured out their audience now.