To be fair on the “overstacked server” crap everyone is saying.
I’m not on an overstacked server, but when you link 3 servers with high coverage at 3 different points in time, you end up with a stacked server that has nearly 24/7 coverage. People are afraid to leave WVW if they are going to be afk for a bit because of having to wait in a long queue again. Kind of a vicious cycle.
It’s not like going to Eredon Terrace, for example, is going to get you short queue times as you’ll be linked to a much larger server anyway.
Unless you’re going to server hop every other link to stay off stacked servers, good luck not being on a stacked server at some point in time.
Now, on the topic of the OP and afkers, there is already a 10 minute AFK timer. Your changes would do nothing to improve that in order to get afkers off map. Especially since you’re giving them an extra 5 minutes to come back with the math question.
You are exactly right…The unfull servers are paired/linked with full ones. For Ex. I am on Mag and we have a link with DR. DR is dealing with the queues as well as us. So what would be the point in switching to DR? None.
Yes, this puzzle is bugged so bad. I had to restart from waypoint twice because the check points didn’t save both times. I did report this to Anet. Oh… the worst part, you have to do it twice because the 1st go doesn’t count towards the not yet open EB Master collection.
It requires 250 mystic coins and 77 mystic clovers so it is really not worth it. Mostly because while it gives you an aura it is not a skins so you cant equip the aurora to anyone besides the character wearing it. As someone who plays 4 classes i’d rather make a legendary weapon which requires almost the same effort and it can be given as a skin for everyone who can equip that type of weapon
I agree but I’m working on it anyway. Since it is so difficult to do there should be some way to equip it to all your characters. The druid stones/henge part is a little extreme as well, doing the same events/map for weeks is awful.
Simple answer they don’t have a large enough population in the lower tiers. People keep getting slammed. They give up and wait until a better week, hoping for a better link, a link or server to be open. I know you’re teasing about the loot thing lol. Die hard wvw people are there to fight.
I agree but the way it’s done doesn’t seem right. For ex. When Mag opened last it had a link and was winning over BG so everyone was like let’s go to Mag not realizing they had a link and that was why. Then Mag lost the link and got closed and boom they fell. Same with TC. Just saying what I have heard and seen. People don’t just want loot, that’s not the whole story. People want good fights and people want to win that’s human nature.
A lot of TC people left and went to Mag last time it was open….then after that BG opened and a lot of players from Mag went to BG. TC and Mag have both dropped Tiers a lot. I almost feel like this is happening intentionally so people pay to bandwagon. Hopefully that’s not true and things will get sorted out soon, something with the mechanics must be off.
I really hope we get perma-speed now for Guardian. Staff was the only weapon that gave a good speed buff. I hate that we’re kind of forced to use traveler runes and staff and have to sacrifice for speed.
If Anet is doing this to Guardian many people will no longer run with staff in WVW. Some guards only get their speed from a staff and as a class we have no perma swiftness like other classes. I think it’s only fair we get that now so we aren’t forced in to using weapons we don’t want. Anet please think about this, I think it’s time.
Ya my boyfriend had a key farm toon name I wanted and he deleted it so I could use it and was not able to. I wondered why. Anyways a week later I was able to use it. However, if it’s a name you own and reuse there is no wait time. For ex. you delete one toon and use the name on a new toon, no wait.
I did have a little dizziness when riding the raptor, but I get vertigo issues easily. It just felt a little all over the place and there was drag and camera swing and it spun to quickly. I totally understand that’s to give it a more realistic feel but not everyone’s eyes can handle that. I have a feeling some of the other mounts will have a more glider smooth feel to them.
I agree…I think if they had rarities that would be much better. I like this idea. My inventory when I’m in WVW fills up to darn fast and we don’t get enough MFS to make MSK so I’m filling up half my inventory with salvage kits.
I’m on mag as well, team chat hasn’t been working for me for awhile. I agree with you Tom on the chat issues. It’s abusive, sexist, racist, and people are afraid to say anything for fear of being trolled and jumped all over. I just try to shrug it off and report the person if it’s really awful and harassing to other players.
Because we can’t really do anything, we get blobbed by linked and recently opened servers. We have lost players and haven’t been given the chance to bring in new players or guilds. I guess a lot of us are just doing other things until it’s sorted out. I’ve personally been doing map comp. I see others I normally WVW with doing the same and in the new map. It sucks because I had friends on Mag that encouraged me to join saying it was such a great WVW server, and I loved it initially and spent all that money to switch my BF and myself. We were on JQ who at that time wasn’t WVW as much so made the change and that was a mistake. Now they have a huge player base and were struggling. I won’t switch again because it seems to happen to all servers at one time or another.
And honestly, there are 7 locked NA servers ATM. If your server is unlocked, recruiting now would be ideal.
4 out of 7 of those servers are linked to offset population loss in WVW. The other 3 are not. My server lost many players when BG was open for a bit and hasn’t been opened or link to offset that. We can recruit all we want but no one can transfer and no one wants to WVW anymore because of the way WVW is set up. It’s so sad to see because we were one of the top WVW servers.
So, is your server open?
If it’s Mag, make has issues independent of population. It has one of the larger populations of people currently hibernating because there are no ‘fights’. Plus they, as a whole, state they don’t PPT. BG isn’t the fault of that currently. They haven’t been in Tier 1 for four weeks.
Mag didn’t want BG. And honestly no one wants in tier one right now.
People here pushed for one up, one down. So, in T1, it is a race to third place.
But the other servers that are now open? Are they recruiting guilds? People forget that is how BG operates. They encourage guilds to come when opened. And yes, that encouragement might include gold…
I wonder if the servers that are now open, are encouraging guilds to come?
Yes I am on Mag and we haven’t been open for awhile. BG was open not long ago and we lost players. I just think most of us don’t see the point. Were up against linked servers, or servers that have recentlly been opened to transfer. We never have enough people in WVW now. We didn’t want to be T1… who does? I agree. That means fighting BG who always seems to have a higher WVW population than anyone. The only way we had any chance against them was when we had a link and then that was taken away and we have been locked for awhile.
And honestly, there are 7 locked NA servers ATM. If your server is unlocked, recruiting now would be ideal.
4 out of 7 of those servers are linked to offset population loss in WVW. The other 3 are not. My server lost many players when BG was open for a bit and hasn’t been opened or link to offset that. We can recruit all we want but no one can transfer and no one wants to WVW anymore because of the way WVW is set up. It’s so sad to see because we were one of the top WVW servers.
The basic problem is that locked servers have no way to offset their player loss attrition. Guilds on those servers have no way of rebuilding.
Because of this only one established server has been able to maintain a high consistent population level. I am not for punishing BG but rather creating more competition for it. Right now consistently fighting against the BG blobs without fresh blood has proven the short term demise of a few servers.
I totally agree with this. I am on Mag and were suffering now because of these problems.
As mentioned in the other thread, there is a new algorithm for calculating WvW population. There is or was a discussion on that thread about it but I believe it need greater attention and the topic title of that thread is not helping much.
To clarify further this is the first week we are using this new algorithm. So some of the complaints that are being brought up were problems with the old algorithm.
We use play hours to determine the size. Rank gains is tracked for comparison purposes since they usually follow a similar curve, but isn’t actually used to determine the world size.
We have simulated other algorithms to measure world size and ultimately found that player hours gave us more accurate results because we are mostly comparing active WvW play. The past algorithms weighed more heavily on individual players, so we ended up with situations where JQ was ‘Full’ because they had a lot of players, just not necessarily ones that played as much as Blackgate.
Under this new algorithm, some servers that were Medium or High become Very High, big changes yes. Some servers that were Full become Very High. Some some servers that were Very High become full. The problem is what comes after that.
As mentioned in that thread. There are concerns about how this new algorithm can possibly make gameplay unbalance. Before I go any further, I need to highlight that I advocate for population or gameplay balance, I am not scoring system supporter. And of course, I am doing this for personal benefits but I am sure my personal benefits will coincide with some other servers, population and gameplay balance.
Moving on, the concerns mentioned are pretty simple. Given that gameplay hours are used to determine population size, it is easy to assume that there will be servers with fundamentally more players than others just because of it. Thus, there will be likely scenarios where at some timing, the lower gameplay hours servers will have bigger numbers than the higher gameplay hours. In this scenario, can it really be called balanced?
Moving on, the next scenario is population cap. Given that population cap is most likely a hard limit and accounting for the nature of players, there will be likely scenarios where the lower gameplay hours servers start to put in more hours regardless of what reasons. Naturally, the system will put this server full but what about the already full server due to higher gameplay hours? The higher gameplay hours servers will not be able to compete in comparable numbers and will have no ways to get more due to the status.
Generally speaking, the new algorithm is questionable.
You said this way better than I did, I’m glad someone else notices how the system backfires.
When you see the hard core WVW servers almost being punished for having a good WVW player base that actually plays it’s sad. What it looks like the problem is, is that Anet bases population on WVW server population. So basically the servers that don’t get their server players involved in WVW don’t have enough players. So they get linked, then they have more players and a higher WVW population which is good. However, the linked servers then notice this link and all the people who rarely WVW on the linked servers decide to WVW and outnumber the other server that has no link, so it kind of backfires. Then you see T1 servers (all except BG ofc) dropping from 1st to 5th like Mag or 3rd to 12 like TC right now. It’s very unfair to punish the servers that actually get their players involved in WVW, but I’m not sure another way they could go about fixing this to make it fair for everyone.
In WvW we call outnumbered “a target-rich environment” … or “MORE LOOTBAGS FOR EVERYONE!”
Ah hahaha .. this is a major necro of a thread.
Really they hide then kill us before we can barely get a hit. What server are you guys on you sound like you’re having a better time of it then us? So sorry about reviving an old thread, it’s still a problem, at least I think so.
It hasn’t been fixed and it is some kind of joke. No matter what, Green (Overgrowth) always massively outnumbers both other teams. I mean massively! This is nuts really, fix it Anet please or more people will just stop doing Eotm and the balance will be worse. I’m on Tarnished Coast, any ideas what NA server would be best to switch to to be on Green then lol? I’m shocked as well Anet isn’t even responding to this issue.
Good job reviving a 1 year old thread.
Anet problably didn’t bothered with this because EotM was never meant to be balanced. The drastic differences between each color objectives show that by itself.
Also you can never have balance when you have the colors pairing changing every week when the servers shift position on the actual WvW ladder.
If winning is that important to you you should be dedicating to help your server in actual WvW and not playing EotM imho.
I’m not dedicated to winning but it would be nice to not die every few minutes. Is that my fault too, maybe I’m just a bad player or something.
As someone who EoTMs quite frequently, it really doesn’t matter that much.
Sure OG has a tendency to have the largest zerg running around, but that isn’t always the case. And even so, you typically go hours without any major encounter, and if there is an encounter, it’s over relatively quick and everyone continues on with what they are doing.
If one side was so OP that both other colors weren’t even able to leave their spawn points, then sure I’d agree this is a problem, but considering you can be any of the colors and still run hours of train without issue, I’m more leaning more towards it being a non-issue.
Not really anymore, the outnumbered buff is always up and we were getting totalled in FR every few minutes tonight so people gave up playing. We basically could barely leave our spawn point, so ya it’s a big issue. I’m on Tarnished Coast.
It hasn’t been fixed and it is some kind of joke. No matter what, Green (Overgrowth) always massively outnumbers both other teams. I mean massively! This is nuts really, fix it Anet please or more people will just stop doing Eotm and the balance will be worse. I’m on Tarnished Coast, any ideas what NA server would be best to switch to to be on Green then lol? I’m shocked as well Anet isn’t even responding to this issue.
I’ve been playing again the last few days, thought I would give it another try, nothing has changed, OG groups and BL are huge and swarm us, we have no chance we rarely have enough people to do anything Outnumbered buff like the whole day.
es this makes me very angry, I was literally almost done doing an event chain all by myself for a mastery at Itzel outpost. Then out of the blue, no warning no asking, I get booted off and into a diff map where the event chain was just starting, grrrr! Also I literally got asked to change maps 10 minutes earlier so I shouldn’t have been in a low pop map.
Yes this makes me very angry, I was literally almost done doing an event chain all by myself for a mastery at Itzel outpost. Then out of the blue, no warning no asking, I get booted off and into a diff map where the event chain was just starting, grrrr!
I’m not excited about HOT anymore myself. Basically with the Tyria mastery system I’m stuck trying to get more mastery points. Most of my toons are human except one toon and this new mastery system is now forcing me to create new toons I don’t need or want just to be able to master up by doing there racial stories, if I want to master up. The other options are trying to complete events when there aren’t enough people, or you error out during a big event and lose your map. I could PVP or WVW but I’ve never done it and probably never will. I could spend hundreds of gold to get one mastery point for the fashion achievement… but what, that’s just wrong! Some of the mastery point gains are ridiculous, spending hours looking for lost golden badges for one mastery point, come on. I guess it’s all a moot point if I master up then what.
So annoyed by the crashes, and it’s not just the crashes and errors every few hrs but you could be mid event with a great team and come back to a different map. Unless you squad or party up you out of luck. There needs to be a fix for that so you can get back into the previous map somehow, so unfair. I should add that these crashes are during big events in Verdant Brick.
Oh ya same here, was on and got kicked and it attempted to log me back in. Error came up was unable to send report sorry GW it wouldn’t allow me to. This sucks it was my 1st time trying Adventure Box Down detector already has like 40 reports on this hopefully it will be fixed soon. This website also seems to be lagging bad.
So I’ve heard veterans are now getting a free veteran character slot if they pre-purchase. That’s at least a little something considering new players get their core game credited back to them. Kind of feels like long time players are getting a slap in the face there, and also punished when they have used an authorized re-seller. I understand the importance of the buy one get one free idea to entice new players, but show your long time players the same kindness by doing something a little more to show you value them, obviously there are a lot of upset people who feel this is very unfair.
Having the same issue, I really hope it’s fixed soon. I see it’s been going on for a while. Something as important to players as personal story line progression should be fixed right away.
I think this is an incredible, very sweet gesture your making, and would love the chance to win, I am new to GW2 and becoming an addict quickly…just got my 1st character to 80, very exciting
Since the last update I am receiving the same error code 7 now to, and cant play -.- I have never hacked so that’s not the problem, I don’t even know how. This makes me really upset I paid for this game for me and my boyfriend to play together now I cant play it!!
Outnumbered buff like the whole day.