Guild Wars 2

Just go to meta critics.com for the overall hot rating. It’s like 75 or something.

Oh thank god. When will this be patched

kragik.4157:

I am going to attempt to offer both insight into my own experience with the expansion and also offer suggestions on how to resolve most of the issues that people are having with HoT.

I am what you would refer to as the casual GW2 player. I come home from work and log in to the game to spend a few hours to relax. What I like about GW2 is that it is ACCESSIBLE to nearly anyone. I mostly play PVE with my wife. I choose not to play other game modes because of the PVP “RAWR I KILLZ YOU ALL” mentality of it and I don’t do dungeons mostly because of the “lolz get better gear. kick.” situations. So either I play the content solo, or my wife and I play together.

I have a few alts that I use because sometimes it just feels like a thief sort of night. I do not have world completion on said thief because honestly I don’t play it very well. During the BW though, I found that the Daredevil spec for the thief was right up my alley. I was taking down mobs in Orr solo. So I pre-purchased 3 copies of the expansion for myself, my wife, and her sister so we could all enjoy it together.

Now for the actual experience. I will have to admit that i ragequit the first night playing HoT. At first I was angry with the requirements for unlocking the Daredevil spec. I purchased the expansion with the hopes of being able to do world completion with the Daredevil spec or any other spec on an alt that I like to play. In reality, I have to do world completion beforehand and then hope to make it to all the Hero Points in the new area to get them before I die on any alt that I’d like to unlock. By that time, however, I’ve already finished what I wanted the spec for in the first place.

I’ve moved on past anger into just simple disappointment. I’m disappointed in Anet’s handling of something I was looking forward to. Don’t get me wrong. I’m not feeling “entitled” to having things handed to me. I just feel like it could have been handled better.

Which brings me to suggestions on how to fix the issues.

Hero Points
Remove the 5 minute timer. I was soloing one of the champs just fine. Had him down to 1/4 health and noticed I had 30 seconds left. Without the timer, people may be able to complete a few more of them.
Also a possibility: Make the Hero Points that spawn champions have an option. You can select either to go for 5 Hero Points and it spawns some of the new veterans or go for the full 10 Hero Points if you think you can handle it.

Elite Specs
In GW1 you could buy sets of spells and skills from the game to use. Do the same for Elite Specializations. Allow people to fully unlock the Elites of their choice with Gems. I think 700 – 1000 Gems would be reasonable. Offer this as an option to the Hero Point route. Think about it. I know that I would gladly spend that in order to play the way that I want to. There’s an extra $100 to $200 just from me alone. Now some might say that is pay to win. I disagree. That is paying to play a game that I enjoy and I don’t mind spending money on.

Masteries
The XP grind is real. Anet, you did a great job on the imaginative Masteries in the new area. I don’t mind having to unlock them to be able to explore. But please let the events and other activities in the new areas give a little more XP.

All in all, I want to enjoy HoT. I really want to like it. It’s just hard when you’re frustrated over it’s implementation. I sincerely hope that Anet is considering a few tweaks to how the content is handled. With a few nudges here and there it could be a great addition to a game that I already love.

Though I agree with you at how badly they handled e specs. I really hope they don’t sell an e spec unlock at the gems store. Are you kidding me. I already payed for the expansion. Also I’m with you on this one. I really tried so hard to like this expansion but I couldnt even play for an hour with out rage quitting. It kind of fells like running into a wall repeatedly.

Has a ed actually responded to this. I just feel like they don’t care enough

Definitely just wait. The game is frustrating atm.

I don’t want a refund but I want hot fixed.

Azure.8670:

so much salt.

It took me all day to unlock chronomancer, and while it was fun, it took a heck of a long time. I found it fun to roam the new maps and actually do something different besides zerging. A guildie and I found all the hero points that didnt require masteries to unlock our specs.

Thing is, once you know which hero points these are, its sooooo much easier. I logged into my necro and unlocked Reaper in under an hour.

I suggest getting a small group and map roaming guys, its easy

can you please make a tutorial.

Theonord.6359:

don’t take the QQ posts serious or as a proof that the majority feels the same way as them. I personally LOVE this expac, it’s the best thing that has happened to GW2, so stop your whinig and start playing the game that’s what it’s for. Or don’t play it if that’s what you feel like.

To me complaining about the fact, that you have to play the game in order to progress is so hypocritical. When all we’ve asked for these years were end game progression, and character progression, and now that they are giving them to us, you complain. What’s the next thing gonna be, you start complaining about the golden city being to gold? or the jungle is too green, and that you need a guide to hold your hand rofl…

and its not just the official forum, if you check out reddit and gw2 guru its the exact same story. i want to make a poll in this forum to get an accurate count of the of the people unhappy with the 400 hp.

Shinzan.2908:

I’d prefer doing this stuff with people but if none else is doing it I’d rather solo than not get to do it at all…

amen.

i know right i love the new action mode. i could never go back after it.

pfanne.9783:

drkmgic.9583:

pfanne.9783:

Sorry, but I am always surprised by how happy people are to announce their own gullibility to the world.
You spend 885 pounds on something without doing research or waiting for reviews.
It’s not like it wasn’t known beforehand that you would need 400 points for the elite specialization.
You deserve being disappointed. Seriously. I hope this taught you something.

Oh and by the way. We don’t need 50 threads on the same topic. Just post in one of the other 49 threads.

It wasn’t. It was just announced a week 9 so before release. ????

That means he still had a whole week to cancel his preorder, or not preorder in the first place, or preorder like a day before release if he was okay with it. But noooooooooo, he had to preorder it. I mean he saved like 10 pounds on that free character slot that he gets for preordering. Totally worth the investment of 885 pounds. Couldn’t wait a week, because he just had to have it.
I mean who could have thought that anything could go wrong with that plan, because nothing ever went wrong on launches of games. Especially on launches off MMORPGs.

It still doesn’t change the fact that the hero points are obnoxious and senseless. Why are they not letting us play the new elite specialization and don’t tell me cuz of character advancement because there are plenty of other things to advance your character such as masteries. Also if you checked reddit they hinted that the new specialization wasn’t going to be grundy and then we get this and that question of how many hero points needed had been asked during the announcement of spirit shards. Don’t you think it’s shady that they waited till the last minute to announce that 400 point requiremen?

Okami.4287:

I don’t understand most of your complains. i actually love HoT, and it doesnt feel that hard to play in the new maps.

Yesterday i went in VB with a friend only, and even though it felt more challenging than old zones, it wasn’t impossible to get access to the different part of the jungle, the monsters were not unkillable, it was fine.

The fact that i cant play with all the skills of my reaper directly isn’t a problem at all. you were not complaining at launch of gw2 that you couldn’t play with all the spells of your class directly. you had to lvl up to gain stuff, which is normal. I don’t understand why we should be given everything directly. besides, unlocking the firsts parts of the spec isn’t that hard, with just a few HP done in VB i can already have fun with the reaper shroud. I don’t care about having everything unlocked at start, because this is still an rpg and like in most rpg, you have to train and build slowly your character.

Anyway, there would always be haters for everygame at every launch, don’t listen to all these complaints Anet, i love the expnsion and will still be playing it in a few years for sure

Yeah but but during the beginning of gw2. I didn’t have to find all the skills challenges just to unlock all the traits and skills on my char. I can just level enjoy the world and do the random challenges when I feel like it. The new system literally forces me to do the challenges for me to be able to complete my elite specialization. It is obnoxious. Compounded by the fact that the skill challenges are gated behind masteries makes it even more of a chore. I literally spent 30 mintues yesterday looking for the skill challenge only to fund it and some frog person tells me I can’t commune.

pfanne.9783:

Sorry, but I am always surprised by how happy people are to announce their own gullibility to the world.
You spend 885 pounds on something without doing research or waiting for reviews.
It’s not like it wasn’t known beforehand that you would need 400 points for the elite specialization.
You deserve being disappointed. Seriously. I hope this taught you something.

Oh and by the way. We don’t need 50 threads on the same topic. Just post in one of the other 49 threads.

It wasn’t. It was just announced a week 9 so before release. ????

I have never been so dissapointed in a game in my life. I was so regretting pre purchasing.

Elite specialization grind literally has nothing to do with the difficulty of the game. #think

I can’t even enjoy the game right now cuz all I could thunk of is the sheer amount of hp I need to unlcok the whole spec. I honestly thought that 400 hp was for cosmetics stuff and the trait line won’t be a problem at all.

Can we get a red on this please. It’s really off putting try to farm for hero points especially since it’s gated when all I want to do us explore the new map as a druid. I also want to do other contents such as fractals but as off right now I can’t cuz I need to be at silver waste or can’t earn hero points unlock my druid first. Wth a net.

Substance E.4852:

Khristophoros.7194:

Shogun.7401:

Levi M.7428:

So you want to be handed everything correct? That’s what ur asking for? Cause that’s what it sounds like.

Yes, he paid for the elite spec. Keep your sarcasm to yourself.

That’s not even the issue. We also paid for legendaries but it was understood that the legendaries would take a lot of time and effort to unlock.

Compares legendaries to basic class skills in a game with no power creep by design.

Optional cosmetics = skills/traits that open up new play styles not possible beforehand.

On a scale of 1 to Even, I literally can’t…

Ah haha best scale ever.

Lol your late troll.

In with you on this one. I’m such an altoholic that that the elite specs are putting me off. Ive been playing for around 2 hours now and I’ve on o my druid and celestial avatar so far. I honestly don’t h think it’s my own self of entitlement when I say I wan to explore the new map as a druid. Is that too much to ask.

I second that guy saying. I hopetrait lines are easy to unlock and cosmetics are the ones we have to grind. That i don’t mind.

I just wish I don’t have to play pvp to achieve my legendary. I hate pvp.

Druid cuz you know healer role is new. I’ll probably go back to my mesmer after though.

I love it. I was thinking they will make legendary runes?

Not to mention glyphs and and druid staff skills have no synergy whatsoever. Glyphs encourage you to me le but staff is 1200 range it’s a really awkward play style. Also whose idea was it to give all of the avatar skills all healing. They should have varied it a bit. As it stands right now the avatar mode is so bland.

I disagree you should not stay as pure healer especially in a group event. But I was was playing a druid during the beta and I got healed throughout the dragon fight and I still got gold contribution so…

The druid just seems so hastily slapped together. Like they scraped the old one and replaced it with this. I am now wondering though what the old kit was like.

I don’t understand how people think that gw2 requires no skill in the zeroes meta. Smh. If that were the case everyone would be doing high level fractals by now or finished all their dungeon.

Coulter.2315:

The philosophy has always been that given a set of people they can adapt their builds to accomodate the requirements of the encounter.

People seem to have interpreted this to mean “your chosen build works everywhere and no one should ask you to change.” Which is nonsense.

What it means is if a druid is a healer and then is removed from a group then the rest can switch things around to cover that gap.

Except that’s not the case is it. Tell me which warrior specs can compensate for the sheer amount of heals the druid has or the necro or the mesmer. The druid alone has 5 healing on their staff nuff said

Lol would so buy this skin.

Hahahaha hh. Omg your funny. Thanking for making my day.

im hopeful this turns out well because im not a big fan of these mini games. i loved the fractals and its iteration with its leader board. i was hoping adventures would be something more like that also am i the only one worried when he mentioned intances to avoid randomness. uhh.. i want to play in an open world god dangit. not in my own little world.

I was wishing the whole time that. Switching your legendary meant switching your weapon too. It’s really hard to not have the option of switching to range or melee.

So I didn’t get my slot yet. Should I be worried

To be honest though. I would rather they fix minion A I. First before adding specialization. I want to be minion mancer god dang it.

Gode Fridus.5607:

Haha… with ideas I read so far above (Mesmer – Minstrel, Ranger – Bard), they could theme a whole expansion around that…. GW2: the musical. Each profession gets an elite musically themed specialization, new weapons (“the instrument collection”), foes are now armed with tomatoes and rotten eggs, new combat mode: tune you play determines how much damage you do to your foe, success depends on how many tones you hit correct while dodging tomatoes and rotten eggs

Hahah no thanks. I would just pick one of the other. Minstrel or bard. #too much.

I’d be down for bard for ranger. A supporty kind of role.

Melee will always be king in pve . Carry a gs though. It’s always great to have that option when you can’t melee

Melee will always be king in pve . Carry a gs though. It’s always great to have that option when you can’t melee

Soni have a bunch of hero points left over like 80 or something. What do in use that on other than upcoming specialization?

Lol at post like these. Hot wasn’t designed to be like every other trinity game like every other mmo and that is the reason i play this game. There’s so many games out there that already trinity. Why are you barking at this tree.

Is this the free slot that you get as a veteran player prepurchasing hot?

Is this beta slot the free slot that we get when we prepurchased hot? Or is this just a random slot.

The more this debate goes on without any feedback from a net the slimier I feel about supporting them.

Wtf are they on crack. I guess I will have to wait for a review. I love a net. And want to support them but this price is just making me cautious is all.

Necro 2h is not ranged they will most likely gget shouts though

this makes me so depressed. it’s making me hate the revenant much more when they as a class is just shoving necro further and further away.

akaCryptic.2389:

Hopefully with the expansion necros will get some team support so that there will be instances where we are actually preferred over other classes. I think we need small changes here and there but nothing spectacular.
I suggest one of the changes should be an elite for death shroud. Maybe something like:

From Death to Life:
Apply torment to yourself and sacrifice life force in order to revive up to 2 nearby allies. You sacrifice 40% life force per ally.
Radius 600 Cast time 2s Cooldown 180s

It could look like life transfer reversed :P

Oh man wouldn’t that be awesome.

Narkodx.1472:

I hate when people make threads like this simple regurgitating the same things that PvE elitists say

Are you running dungeon speed clears and trying to top world records?

The answer is most likely a big fat – NO

Which means who gives a kitten – power necro is perfectly fine for any dungeon or PvE content this game has to offer ESPECIALLY if you are running with PuGs who run stupid kitten like Staff Guardian and Bear Bow Max Range LB Ranger

Yet people continue to make threads about Necro needing to be fixed and how useless it is! Why is this exaggeration and regurgitation continuously happens is beyond my understanding when most of you PvE players will never be dungeon speed clearer this is a problem that affects less than 1% of the population lol my goodness

no one’s is saying that necro is useless but they can be Improved. As it stands right now we are severely outclassed by any other class Or at the very least fix our minions. I don’t know why ur so angry. If this thread is offensive to you feel free to leave.

Vortok.6975:

drkmgic.9583:

Vortok.6975:

drkmgic.9583:

so am I the only one that hopes that they will fix The necromancer in this expansion. I’m so fed up with being bottom of the barrel In pve.

What do you want to be fixed? Or what do you think need to be fixed?

I want a good power weapon tha t cleaves but i heard that we getting great sword so hurray. Second I want I good team oriented utility. most of the others classes have one. Ele has auras. Condition removal for guardian. rangers have their spirits. mesmer have their portal plus their endless reflects which makes them really useful. Also fix our life siphon and minion A I. It makes me feel bad when I take out my minion.

Dagger is our power weapon that cleave.
As utility you can use Plague signet, well of power for condition removal and Spectral Wall for protection remember you can trait for each well you do will apply protection too.
For the life siphon yes it’s true it’s not totally worth it, but just keep in mind Death Shroud + siphon health = very hard to kill, add some minions to that and we’ll be almost unkillable.

Take note that I’m talking about pve here and I’m not interested in pve But dagger only cleaves for 2 ppl. That why so many neceo bring wells for aoe and trait life Blas to peirce as well. If dagger hits more than 2 ppl I’d be so happy and u would not ask for another power weapon.