Guild Wars 2

Has anyone else noticed that when you trait for chaotic dampening your winds of chaos will have a shorter bleed duration with less bleed dmg… This really needs to be fixed

Try it your self

I just wish trap ranger was viable.. It’s a lot of fun but as of now you are basically a nade engineer with less nades less range and more utility slots used for traps. Makes it pretty kittenty IMO

jportell.2197:

Condition mesmers with PU trait are great especially if they take signet of inspiration. Share that protection! However a PU mesmer condition damage isn’t all that great compared to a necro or even a warrior… Yes it is a great build but isn’t quite up to par on what an average sPvP condi build should be. Maybe with conditions toned down a condi mesmer will be on the same level as a condi necro/engi. But atm it just lacks that OOMPH that should go with condition builds.

Completely agree that is why this Mesmer condi build is amazing for home point defender or far point attacker. With portal giving u the option to be in 2 places at once and being able to beat anyone in a 1v1 at that point it really makes up for the condi dmg. But also helpful in team fights with mass invis to prevent stomps portal again . Also the dmg really isn’t bad it melts targets down quite good with pistol confusion burst clones causing bleed

I don’t quite understand how everyone hates on the Mesmer I still think they are one of the most powerful classes in Spvp and Tpvp.

Everyone complains about this condi meta so can’t beat it join it. Condition mesmers with PU trait . Torch decoy mass invis. You are quite the beast.

Yet to see anything kill me in 1v1 heck even in 2v1 besides a skilled thief.

Running portal makes me a great home point or far point defender.

Yes I can’t hold a point very long due to stealth de capping but i have no problem finishing the opponent then capping again. I have noticed due to me being on any team. The team wins because of me.. It is quite sad to hear people complain about mesmers. Plz don’t say I don’t contribute to the team when in team fights I am quite helpful.

This truly is a l2p issue and no one can tell me otherwise because I see the difference I make on a team and I get the hate messages from the other team.

Everyone tries the basic shatter build and expect it to be viable well things have changed its still a good build but times have changed new meta new build.

So fellow mesmers just plz go condi with PU and kitten face off any necro or anything for that matter.

-Dapper Doo

Downed state is fine except one thing… If one person is finished then one person should rally in pvp and in wvw this whole talking 5 people off one dead body is quite ridiculous.

Removing downed state would be a horrible idea

I can’t stress this enough but blink @ 1200 range is your best friend then stealth or stealth then blink at that point you have the time to heal then burst down the theif .. Thief is just as squishy as you if not more so don’t be afraid to attack if your on the run The whole time then you die

djtool.8372:

I think you should do what chaos inadvertently inspired me to do tonight: join spvp with a zerker amulet and a scepter with no off-hand and signet of illusions. No one will actually believe you’re just going to stand absolutely still and spam scepter attacks and when they figure it out and publicly declare you as ‘bad’ you can have a great laugh as you continue along as the mad berscepker.

To bad the clones only cast ether bolt and not the full auto attack chain :/ makes it quite noticeable which Mesmer is real … Unless you are a tiny Asura of course

In this condition meta I strongly suggest going 20 20 30 0 0 rabid amulet undead runes blink decoy portal mass invis scepter torch sword pistol.

I go to far if its 1v1 I win no matter what, maybe it is my skill, but the only thing that can bother u is keeping the point. If its a necro u have to stay far away to avoid the condi transfers back to you which makes hard for u to stay on point. Also the constant stealth makes it hard to keep it neutral. But I’ve even trolled in 1v2s for so long and even win most battles and guess what if there’s 2 on you then the other points are at a disadvantage. Once I cap the far node I put a portal down then go to mid rinse and repeat.

This strat has made me the difference in a game and the reason my team wins most of the time. Never die with blink and stealth you are invincible.

Hah and people say mesmer is weak no they are terribly wrong

Honestly I could see it being useful if it made a 360 radius smoke field like thieves black powder number 5 on pistol off hand. That would be sick! Blind with another chance at stealth

My Mesmer build makes this build look like utter kitten … 30 30 10 mantras .. Blink clones with rock dog a warrior has no chance in hell to hit me with skull crack and guess if he does I have blink or decoy and stability from mantra lol while my clones destroy the kitten out of him

I can’t believe someone can even post this…. This guy clearly is a noob and has never even tried this type of build.. It is so hard to land skull crack on any player with a brain oh this warrior is coming at me to skull crack so I just run right threw him bam he misses with out even dodging. If the warrior manages to land it most people have a stun break that this guy has never heard of … This is not over powered at all it’s a joke that u could even say this.. Heartseeker is a homing attack… I would pay to have skull crack as a homing attack leap…

kitten even if I did this to a ranger with no stun breaks he will eat the hundred blades then evade everything else out sustaining any warrior … Lol a thief can just shortbow spam u to death .. Anything can counter this build u speak of.. U can strafe right by the warriors skull crack its a 130 range skill that has to face the target lol u clearly never played this before

Hmm lets think…. High aoe burst combo known as mind wrack that melts necros… Portal from home to mid not needing a second bunker… Illusion of life when your bunker goes down… Moa morph the enemy by let when they have the point when he’s alone… Blink away from any nonsense or portal…. 1200 range spatial surge and I serker that deals great damage and keeps u safe… A number 2 downed ability which can avoid a stomp long enough for your team to stability stomp the Emmy necro….

Oh but you know not viable at all… LOL scrub

google.3709:

lol I would love this mechanic!

Wipe the entire team and then don’t cap he point so they won’t respawn!!

You are a noob for saying this.. Because if it wasn’t capped the point wouldn’t be contested.

I actually think it would be a great idea

Jonwar.9205:

The poster you called a troll, afaik, is correct. This is due to the sigil rounding (para sigil will aways round up). So you 4s stun is a 4s stun with 1 sigil or 2 sigils. With hammer your 2s stun is a 3s stun.

I feel like the meta on NA must be significantly different from that on EU… so many build there completely lacking mobility. It seems like it would struggle a lot against teams that quickly shift their strategy instead of running with the law of insanity and banging their heads on mid one at a time until they lost the match.

This build is great I’ve been using it now.

But the no mobility thing it’s called warriors sprint

Serker stance is blind immunity.

I would really like endure pain and other stance of we had a trait that reduced the cool down by 20% like every other kitten skill in the game. Also mesmers have an f4 utility that is better then endure pain and can be used on a shorter cool down. Why are warriors limited to an f1 only ability? Sure I’m down for burst skills but give us more F skills. As of now I’m very happy with the endure pain serker stance combo. I can wreck any necro. Necro is a free kill to my warrior ATM. And most people see that balance stance and/or dolyak signet is a must but I do not agree as long as you keep Lyssa runes you have 5 second stability and full condi clear that’s all the stability I need.

You have no points in survival. And you have 30 on marksmanship with no signets pretty bad build my man not trying to be mean but it’s the truth.

Best build in my opinion for the team and great in 1v1 is a spirit ranger

Best bet run something like 0 10 30 30 0 with rabid amulet goes good extra bleed on crit

Meh spirit ranger is OP gives your team protection and chance to burn every 10 seconds use flame trap for added aoe dmg with rabid amulet you deal a lot of condi dmg yet are still pretty tanky. Spirit of nature can Rez 3 times and can Rex your whole team. Water field healing spring is great when you get your team to blast through it I’ve been completely healed with blasts from teammates.

But I agree trapper lacks BM doesn’t offer anything to a team, and a power build is lack luster.

I was running a pre made last night very good team I might say. we only lost once and then dominated that team after words… We were running 2 warriors 2 Eles 1 spirit ranger. One warrior was shout heals with celestial amulet and the other was glass canon longbow GS we had great synergy. With the ranger water field the longbow could arc it for aoe heals and the other had warhorn another blast and Eles with arcane blast and more blasts. We made a great team even vsing teams with 2 necros we dominated that’s because conditions didn’t stand a chance against us with ele condi removal ranger water field shout warrior. Great teamwork and bam

Myrmidian Eudoros.4671:

fakeblood.2576:

Necro has good survivabilty your trippin.

Not sure how you define “good”, but I disagree. Since the topic is about Warrior and Necro, let me frame it for you this way…

A Guardian or Mesmer or Thief in a Zerker amulet is multiple more times survivable than a Warrior or Necro in Shaman or Cleric amulet.

That is just how it is. Of course these classes (War and Nec) build to DPS race, and frankly they should have the ability to out DPS everyone since their sustain is the worst in the game. You can tone down the raw damage if you give them sustain tools like other classes, but the HP pool is a poor substitute as it is a buffer of about 2s worth of burst. A Mesmer or Guardian, for instance has enough hard defense on Sword 2 or #6 (shelter) respectively to completely level out the HP difference in a single cast. Then those skill recharge.

Sorry should have changed it to “great” survivability. MM necros with soldiers amulet are actually great back point defenders. How about the whole necro well builds which is also great protection and health way more survivable then a warrior. You said a thief with shamans has more survive then a necro with one? You are surely mistaken. And as a necro you are incredibly strong against condi classes! So you think a mesmer with a tanker amulet had more sustain lol

Nerf this really? On my spirit ranger which does insane condi damage yet I can revive my self 3 times lol and while I’m doing that I’m also reviving my team mates. And plus if u poison DPS the body the Rez won’t work half the time. So if anything spirit of nature is way more powerful

I have to agree it should not transfer all conditions. Just like carrupt boon should not convert all boons

Zenith.7301:

fakeblood.2576:

Necro has good survivabilty your trippin.

Don’t run 30 30 10 and expect survivabilty

But a solid 0 30 20 0 20 build with spectral walk wall maybe even a blind well to prevent thieves and death shroud is bigger now due to points in last tree. Their heal removes all condis. Necro does not have a survivabilty issue. Not to mention fear is also a great defense and offensive skill

LOL.

Try that with a group. Spectral wall don’t do anything against anything with stability. Any group will drop you in a few seconds — this is not about 1v1.

So how long do you wanna be able to survive against 5 people targeting you? It’s simple spectral walk teleport back wall well death shroud after all that u then die because hey no glass class should ever be able to tank 5 people lol nib

Necro has good survivabilty your trippin.

Don’t run 30 30 10 and expect survivabilty

But a solid 0 30 20 0 20 build with spectral walk wall maybe even a blind well to prevent thieves and death shroud is bigger now due to points in last tree. Their heal removes all condis. Necro does not have a survivabilty issue. Not to mention fear is also a great defense and offensive skill

Jonwar.9205:

google.3709:

kinda disappointing, people continue to take the time to QQ on forums but don’t take the time to actually play the class and come up with a build on their own…..

I’m give you a clue…. there are traits such as “Cleansing Ire” which along “Signet of stamina”, “mending” and runes of lyssa with “signet of rage” can keep yourself condi free…

try mace/shield + GS….. the mace burst skill is a 3s+ stun long enough to let you do a full HB without frenzy… every 10s and removes x3 condis…. u also get x2 stuns, daze block and the godly mobility from gs.

take “Unsuspecting Foe” and use soilders while keeping high dmg.

use those tips, come up with a build and enjoy being god among most meta builds, including the buffed necro terror spam, the only one that should be of any trouble is phantasm/shatter mesmers, but just because Anet spoiled them with those brainless cheesy builds, other than that you should be able to handle any situation…

This is bad advice from someone who, afaik, plays thief. The only thing you’ll be successful with this build against is other warriors. Mace/Shield+GS isn’t a bad solution, but it’s still screwed by the typical problem of the warrior being a 1 trick pony.

Mace/Shield+GS runs into the problem of your gap closers being all tied into the GS, while your setup for the GS’s damage are all on the mace (into one ability I might add). Skull crack is difficult to land without something to set it up (shield bash) which is on a fairly long cooldown. Not to mention every class with more than one stunbreak will laugh at you (and the stability at a mid fight will make you pretty much useless here other than hundred blading downed).

Lyssa is like a suicide button at the moment. Corrupt boon then gg.

Try defektive’s longbow+sword/shield build:
https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/professions/warrior/Defektive-s-New-Meta-New-Patch-New-Build/page/4#post2318097

I’ve been having a great deal of success with this:
https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/professions/warrior/PvP-Build-Feedback-Please/first#post2316097

And this, though thieves will utterly destroy you with blinds if they’re decent:
http://gw2skills.net/editor/?fIAQNBMhJakzJFOGS4hJOggeohcRVoUYHbYSxYwGA-TsAg0CnICSFkLITQygsBN+YZxECA

Currently bersker’s stance, cleansing ire and signet of stamina are our strongest counter-condi options. This kindof kills greatsword as an option as it loses a lot of efficacy without its traits and frenzy. You can still run the greatsword zerker setup, but it’s about 10x harder with the condi spam meta that’s gotten more prevalent since the necro buff. The warrior is about 10 steps behind every other class in the game, but you can make it work… sortof…

What is everyone talking about saying Lyssa runes are suicide?? If you didn’t know this last patch actually buffed Lyssa runes because now currpt boon does not convert all of them even keeping your stability up so most necros don’t even run it anymore and if they do cool let them currpt me doesn’t effect me at all really

100 mine is the new meta I’ve seen AK insta down fools

Brigg.6189:

^I’d agree this is mostly equivalent to a pre-patch GS/LB build.

It’s an unforgiving build with no sustain, and you need to understand how to play it. But if you can work with that, the damage, aoe, and mobility is all very strong. The prepatch build got me to rank ~270 solo. Rank obviously doesn’t mean everything, but I think that at least says it can be competitive at a high level (and I think it’s superior to axe/gs that you occasionally saw in tournies).

So actually, let me throw something in about playstyle: the most important thing about playing this style warrior is to understand you have no sustain. You need to either score a kill, or gtfo and reset the fight.

Solo, the build can open very strong for quick kills. I tend to go LB burst, LB #5, LB #3, GS #3, BC/fr/100b. Against good players you’re going to need to adjust for their reactions, and potentially iterate a few times trying to land LB#3 and GS#3 before going for a BC kill.

In group fights, you need play extremely conservatively and rely mostly on LB damage and advantageous positioning. Look for the opportunity to set up either a LB#5->100b kill or BC->100b kill. If you get caught with aoe and conditions without scoring a kill and gaining the advantage… it’s over, you have to reset.

The last point is why I’ve grown to like the burst condi clear. It’s a sacrifice in the very important kill scoring power of the build, but it’s a lot more reasonable to maintain your health in a team fight. I feel more comfortable getting some melee hits in and dodging back out to LB range, and I think that’s benefiting the team more.

So tl;dr: I think the build is still effective in the classic warrior playstyle, but my preference right now is to make use of the new condi clear.

Thanks for explaining how to use the build this is exactly how I play and I do pretty kitten good at .. You gotta play like a thief but without stealth you use your mobility to get away which is a lot easier then people think . People cry about the conditions that prevent you from moving but both my heal and elite 30 sec and 48 sec cool down remove those conditions give u the time to GTFO.

Only question I have for you is. What would you choose for the 10 point trait in defense because we must spend 20 for the new cleansing ire. Also what should your build look like? 30 0 20 0 20? I’m just worried about losing the extra crit chance and crit damage from discipline tree. But I guess fury and 43% crit with Lyssa runes does the job pretty well

Warlord.9074:

1. Merge shield mastery and Reflect projectiles

2. Merge vigorous focus, with sure footed and decrease stance Cool down by 20%

3. Merge signet mastery with Deep Strike.

4. Merge Vigorous return with Sweet revenge

5. Merge Powerful banners with Inspiring banners.

6. Merge all 3 Tactics minor traits into one Adept trait and then replace all 3 tactics minor traits into something useful to make that trait line more attractive.

7. Merge stronger bowstrings, with Burning Arrows.

8. Merge leg specialist with Opportunist. Or put leg specialist as one of the new Minor tactic traits since its useless now and ANET likes useless minor tactic traits.

9. Merge short temper with mighty defenses.

10. Merge Distracting stikess, with Unsuspecting foe.

11. Make Berskerkers might a minor Tactics trait.

12 move restorative strength to a minor tactics trait.

Number 8 made me LOL so hard hah… But all seriousness these are great suggestions and should be now. Also the trait that increases crit chance by 10% to swords should be all 1 handed weapons

I have to agree after this patch rush seems a lot worse

yski.7642:

With all this “It’s viable! No it isn’t! Yes it is!” talk going on, wouldn’t it be easier to just post some gameplay?

Yea I woulda but my computer is pretty lame :/ I know I’m good player and people I play with/ vs no I am good … I just thought I’d share my build because it is viable because I use it and typically have the most kills in a game and points with minimal deaths. But haters gonna hate… I wouldn’t post something if I didn’t think it worked

Thing is fear is a great defense as well as offense and with spectral walk/return and spectral wall – a necro can go glass and be very viable on tournaments with a good defense

A mantra shatter build can be super OP massive damage and viable

And I’ve said this before… How on earth does blind prevent an aoe knock back bubble like the guardian number 2 downed ability :? Wtkittenda kitten logic is that makes no kitten sense!!! Makes me grrrr mad!!!’ They made a lot of ground type skills unblockable so the should address this issue and fix it ASAP

Agree +1 should just be a flat damage thing in spvp and condition by half otherwise

Brigg.6189:

This build can be played to good effect, but it’s completely reliant on not getting focused. In my experience that’s not really a problem in pug matches with sub ~90% players, but once you get to ranked opponents you’re going to be actively focused.

I might try this out tonight for the fun of it, but I’ll probably stick mobile strikes in instead of DOtE.

Oh wait, I’ve played with you, you do play well. Maybe consider sacrificing a little dps to pick up the new condi clear, it’s really nice. Something like 30 0 20 0 20.

Thanks for the positive reply! And I will try it out.

Never thought I’d say this but Mesmer is now the easiest thing for me to kill on my warrior lol unless they are wearing a tanks amulet which no one does

Empathetic Fighter.2065:

OP claims on his opinion to death, so there is not a great room for healthy discussion. PPl saying this build won’t work in a competitive environment and get an answer back like they have no clue about warrior or PvP at all.

On a side note: Warrior doesn’t require any fix. Its the other classes that need fixes in terms of AoE, AI etc.

The only reason I question your warrior and what you know about it is because every single thing you try to shut me down on as warrior I have come back with something to counter your argument. Like when you said I should use signet of stamina.

I’m sure you are a great player and all but you give me no good reason as too why warrior isn’t viable. It’s just a huge skill cap

Empathetic Fighter.2065:

fakeblood.2576:

Empathetic Fighter.2065:

fakeblood.2576:

Empathetic Fighter.2065:

fakeblood.2576:

Empathetic Fighter.2065:

fakeblood.2576:

Empathetic Fighter.2065:

Warrior is still not viable in high-end. Get it! There is no need to create something that doesn’t exist. Every warrior that just comes in with his bulls charge and 100b will get focused in seconds and will die in seconds.
FYI: bullscharge and frenzy is not viable since the quickness-patch. This clearly shows me that you lack of competitive experience on warrior. The only thing that is "playable are defensive utilities, like signet of stamina against necro-meta and for sure defy pain against bursts.

Try again.

lmao you think i dont know of the quickness nerf? you think that makes frenzy not viable? honestly frenzy got buffed it lasts longer and the dmg is reduced to 25% not 50% anymore so you clearly no nothing. i dont need to waste a utility on that signet when i have lyssa runes clearly. dont need endure pain when i can stability rush for my life screw endure pain.

and for the love of god who just starts the fiht off with bulls charge frenzy 100 blades lol

That doesn’t make frenzy any better. GJ on lyssa runes, a one-time condition remove over 48 secs. You must be proud now. And since when stability removes immobilize?
You have clearly no clue about organized high-end PvP by posting this answer to me.

when did i say stability removes immobilize? lyssa runes do. and you said i need signet of stamina for condition removal yet i have the same thing lol only its my elite signet with runes. if i was really worried about a team immobilizing me i would switch a trait.

bro do you even warrior? what rank are you

So basically when you get pulled or whatever cc you get affected by, you press your balance stance and your signet? good you have a 48 sec CD on that. Seems like you are not aware of the rate a necro can put conditions on you. Also name me a team that has a warrior in their setup? Clearly you don’t belong to the competitive scene, so don’t ask me from the side what rank I am.

lol yea necros are so good now due to the recent buff but even b4 i would destroy necros. specially power ones. but now with this new buff they are fairly hard to kill. so if i can only remove condits every 48 seconds. what do you suggest sir that is a better idea to fight this necro you speak of . also if you are talking high lvl play i dont need to remove my own conditions thats the necros, else, guardians and even rangers job to help me out.

A necro has no place for any condition remove for you. Ranger has no support either for you, mabye healing spring with some blast finishers and that’s it. A guardian can remove conditions three times on max.

A necro alone easily put 6 conditions in about 4 secs on you, nearly repeatable. With LB you can stay in range to not eat all AoE coming on you, that’s good. But your utilities only support your close-range option akka GS. That’s the basic fail in your build. With signet of stamina or defy pain you are more independent on sustain and you don’t rely on your 100b combo so heavy. This leads into more roles you can fit. Take a look on deffektives thread and watch what he created, there is alot of tips and summary posts why certain things work or not.

necros plague signet is the new meta.. putrid mark helps as well.

Anas Tarcis runs the same utilities i run. He is very effective with longbow GS. And i have seen defektives builds and played with him in tpvp solo ques. and im pretty sure i am just as effective as him in a tourney.

Oh okay, now I understand. In the NA scene this is mabye viable, but in EU, where competition is actually a lot tougher, there is no way to bring a warrior with you.
The reason why Team Curse and MiM stopped playing with warrior.

lol im speechless. this last comment you made is pure ignorance

Empathetic Fighter.2065:

fakeblood.2576:

Empathetic Fighter.2065:

fakeblood.2576:

Empathetic Fighter.2065:

fakeblood.2576:

Empathetic Fighter.2065:

Warrior is still not viable in high-end. Get it! There is no need to create something that doesn’t exist. Every warrior that just comes in with his bulls charge and 100b will get focused in seconds and will die in seconds.
FYI: bullscharge and frenzy is not viable since the quickness-patch. This clearly shows me that you lack of competitive experience on warrior. The only thing that is "playable are defensive utilities, like signet of stamina against necro-meta and for sure defy pain against bursts.

Try again.

lmao you think i dont know of the quickness nerf? you think that makes frenzy not viable? honestly frenzy got buffed it lasts longer and the dmg is reduced to 25% not 50% anymore so you clearly no nothing. i dont need to waste a utility on that signet when i have lyssa runes clearly. dont need endure pain when i can stability rush for my life screw endure pain.

and for the love of god who just starts the fiht off with bulls charge frenzy 100 blades lol

That doesn’t make frenzy any better. GJ on lyssa runes, a one-time condition remove over 48 secs. You must be proud now. And since when stability removes immobilize?
You have clearly no clue about organized high-end PvP by posting this answer to me.

when did i say stability removes immobilize? lyssa runes do. and you said i need signet of stamina for condition removal yet i have the same thing lol only its my elite signet with runes. if i was really worried about a team immobilizing me i would switch a trait.

bro do you even warrior? what rank are you

So basically when you get pulled or whatever cc you get affected by, you press your balance stance and your signet? good you have a 48 sec CD on that. Seems like you are not aware of the rate a necro can put conditions on you. Also name me a team that has a warrior in their setup? Clearly you don’t belong to the competitive scene, so don’t ask me from the side what rank I am.

lol yea necros are so good now due to the recent buff but even b4 i would destroy necros. specially power ones. but now with this new buff they are fairly hard to kill. so if i can only remove condits every 48 seconds. what do you suggest sir that is a better idea to fight this necro you speak of . also if you are talking high lvl play i dont need to remove my own conditions thats the necros, else, guardians and even rangers job to help me out.

A necro has no place for any condition remove for you. Ranger has no support either for you, mabye healing spring with some blast finishers and that’s it. A guardian can remove conditions three times on max.

A necro alone easily put 6 conditions in about 4 secs on you, nearly repeatable. With LB you can stay in range to not eat all AoE coming on you, that’s good. But your utilities only support your close-range option akka GS. That’s the basic fail in your build. With signet of stamina or defy pain you are more independent on sustain and you don’t rely on your 100b combo so heavy. This leads into more roles you can fit. Take a look on deffektives thread and watch what he created, there is alot of tips and summary posts why certain things work or not.

necros plague signet is the new meta.. putrid mark helps as well.

Anas Tarcis runs the same utilities i run. He is very effective with longbow GS. And i have seen defektives builds and played with him in tpvp solo ques. and im pretty sure i am just as effective as him in a tourney.

all this criticism and not one nice post about this build and where it shines. just a bunch of negative people who clearly cant play warrior and just complain that someone even has a viable build and it is working for them. i mean kitten if it wasnt working so well for me even b4 this patch i wouldnt have posted it. ive played all classes in pvp ALOT i mean ALOT and i know when to strike them as a warrior and defeat them. and when i go on shatter mesmer or something after i dont feel like wow i was handicap as warrior. but i guess haters gonna hate. sad because the people i play with i used to be like is it okay if i play warrior? and they would be so not down for me to play warrior “go shatter mesmer” or “scepter dagger ele” now these people i play with get mad when i get on something else they enjoy watching me save them and destroy in matches. Warriors OP people are just too ignorant. pointing out all the bad of this build. you could do that with any class. nothings perfect. but i tell you what this build dominates the battle field

ProxyDamage.9826:

fakeblood.2576:

a single stun break that prevents all stuns for 8 seconds
then also 5 seconds with lyssa runes on elite.

and if my offense fails i run i do not die. im not perfect. but i am skilled enough to know when to book it and when to kill it

You can clear 1 stun (and be invulnerable to stuns for 8 seconds) every 40 seconds, 1 immobilize every 48 seconds, and 1 chill/cripple every 30.

Yep. No way anyone’s catching you! No sir!

And if your attack fails you can try again once every 60 seconds. You’re a true asset to the team.

so your saying as soon as i get immobilized and cant remove it or chill or cripple i just instant die and im useless? lol and why does everyone think frenzy bulls charge is the only way for me to kill someone? rush crits for 6k. whrlwind attack does mad deeps as well and arcing arrow those are all skills that have nothing to do with my utility skills

ProxyDamage.9826:

> Almost no condition removal
> Based on “BC>Frenzy>HB” gimmick
> No survivability
> GS with no mobile strikes

This isn’t a viable build. It’s the generic “All offense no defense lololol” gimmicky scrub kitten that was never viable to begin with. A single stun breaker, your offense fails and you die. An immobilize and you bite the dust. Etc.

a single stun break that prevents all stuns for 8 seconds
then also 5 seconds with lyssa runes on elite.

and if my offense fails i run i do not die. im not perfect. but i am skilled enough to know when to book it and when to kill it

Empathetic Fighter.2065:

fakeblood.2576:

Empathetic Fighter.2065:

fakeblood.2576:

Empathetic Fighter.2065:

Warrior is still not viable in high-end. Get it! There is no need to create something that doesn’t exist. Every warrior that just comes in with his bulls charge and 100b will get focused in seconds and will die in seconds.
FYI: bullscharge and frenzy is not viable since the quickness-patch. This clearly shows me that you lack of competitive experience on warrior. The only thing that is "playable are defensive utilities, like signet of stamina against necro-meta and for sure defy pain against bursts.

Try again.

lmao you think i dont know of the quickness nerf? you think that makes frenzy not viable? honestly frenzy got buffed it lasts longer and the dmg is reduced to 25% not 50% anymore so you clearly no nothing. i dont need to waste a utility on that signet when i have lyssa runes clearly. dont need endure pain when i can stability rush for my life screw endure pain.

and for the love of god who just starts the fiht off with bulls charge frenzy 100 blades lol

That doesn’t make frenzy any better. GJ on lyssa runes, a one-time condition remove over 48 secs. You must be proud now. And since when stability removes immobilize?
You have clearly no clue about organized high-end PvP by posting this answer to me.

when did i say stability removes immobilize? lyssa runes do. and you said i need signet of stamina for condition removal yet i have the same thing lol only its my elite signet with runes. if i was really worried about a team immobilizing me i would switch a trait.

bro do you even warrior? what rank are you

So basically when you get pulled or whatever cc you get affected by, you press your balance stance and your signet? good you have a 48 sec CD on that. Seems like you are not aware of the rate a necro can put conditions on you. Also name me a team that has a warrior in their setup? Clearly you don’t belong to the competitive scene, so don’t ask me from the side what rank I am.

lol yea necros are so good now due to the recent buff but even b4 i would destroy necros. specially power ones. but now with this new buff they are fairly hard to kill. so if i can only remove condits every 48 seconds. what do you suggest sir that is a better idea to fight this necro you speak of . also if you are talking high lvl play i dont need to remove my own conditions thats the necros, else, guardians and even rangers job to help me out.

Empathetic Fighter.2065:

fakeblood.2576:

Empathetic Fighter.2065:

Warrior is still not viable in high-end. Get it! There is no need to create something that doesn’t exist. Every warrior that just comes in with his bulls charge and 100b will get focused in seconds and will die in seconds.
FYI: bullscharge and frenzy is not viable since the quickness-patch. This clearly shows me that you lack of competitive experience on warrior. The only thing that is "playable are defensive utilities, like signet of stamina against necro-meta and for sure defy pain against bursts.

Try again.

lmao you think i dont know of the quickness nerf? you think that makes frenzy not viable? honestly frenzy got buffed it lasts longer and the dmg is reduced to 25% not 50% anymore so you clearly no nothing. i dont need to waste a utility on that signet when i have lyssa runes clearly. dont need endure pain when i can stability rush for my life screw endure pain.

and for the love of god who just starts the fiht off with bulls charge frenzy 100 blades lol

That doesn’t make frenzy any better. GJ on lyssa runes, a one-time condition remove over 48 secs. You must be proud now. And since when stability removes immobilize?
You have clearly no clue about organized high-end PvP by posting this answer to me.

when did i say stability removes immobilize? lyssa runes do. and you said i need signet of stamina for condition removal yet i have the same thing lol only its my elite signet with runes. if i was really worried about a team immobilizing me i would switch a trait.

bro do you even warrior? what rank are you

Jonwar.9205:

GS/LB is a good weapon set… what I typically run in tournies, and yes it does work. The problem more lies in compared to other classes your AoE is subpar. Your melee damage is off the chain, but GL staying there long enough to actually get it off to significant effect. Running away=Losing, this is conquest, there are objectives.

Anyways… personally running 20/30/0/0/20 now for GS/LB, I find a 10% bonus to bleeding targets to be better than a 15% bonus that I don’t get that often anyways due to f1 use. Also, furious, for more f1. The old scholar/divinity combo on runes or hoelbrak depending on the team comp.

i mean leaving the point to go to another makes a difference then just dying giving the other team 5 points. Also if you neutralized the point for a lil that can buy some time for your other team mates. I personally dont like any of the traits in arms except the greatsword one. and with this build you can get out of spending points into arms

i used to use the air runes like tarcis and the lightning bolt was nice and swiftness from heal was nice( sorta miss that swiftness heal) but having no condition removal is scary so lyssa is where it is at for me. specially with the currupt boon nerf

Empathetic Fighter.2065:

Warrior is still not viable in high-end. Get it! There is no need to create something that doesn’t exist. Every warrior that just comes in with his bulls charge and 100b will get focused in seconds and will die in seconds.
FYI: bullscharge and frenzy is not viable since the quickness-patch. This clearly shows me that you lack of competitive experience on warrior. The only thing that is "playable are defensive utilities, like signet of stamina against necro-meta and for sure defy pain against bursts.

Try again.

lmao you think i dont know of the quickness nerf? you think that makes frenzy not viable? honestly frenzy got buffed it lasts longer and the dmg is reduced to 25% not 50% anymore so you clearly no nothing. i dont need to waste a utility on that signet when i have lyssa runes clearly. dont need endure pain when i can stability rush for my life screw endure pain.

and for the love of god who just starts the fiht off with bulls charge frenzy 100 blades lol

Steelo.4597:

its a 1 trick pony build and a competent player will simply stunbreak your bulls and dodge out of 100b. what are you going to do then? throw out pin down into F1 into #3? and then? wait 48 seconds for your lyssa burst? dude i know what im talking about, try some 1v1 and face your limitations. ive been running this build for months, yes its a good warrior build, but far from viable in any kind of competitive matchup due to no versatility at all. you cant expect to do good in pvp with a 1 trick build, if it fails you dont have much to fall back on, only pin down and gtfo with rush or something like that. but yeah smack down some high level baddies, thats possible anytime since they are downed by your burst before they even noticed wtf is going on. its what i do too, dont be hating, warriors dont have options atm.. but still i wouldnt sell this build as a viable tpvp / spvp build.

you act like players have a million stun breaks not in tpvp sorry. What rank are you? do you even tpvp? im rank 45 and shred as warrior am feared if i can not kill something and im going to die i run to another point reset this is how you play warrior very similiar to thief.

OK they break out of my bulls charge which is my only stun. i whirlwind attack arching arrow longbow burst is burning them down the whole time. you act like bulls charge frenzy 100 blades is my only way of killing someone. that my friend is the finisher. that is how i finish someone. I use lyssa not really for the boons but for the condition removal. it removes all the movement impaired condis which prevent me from running out of a 3v1 or it can give me a gap closer to destroy my enemy. I dont think ive ever vsed a class in a tourney and turned the other way with out trying and i have won a lot of fights if i cant i run thats how u play it.

so dont tell me i cant play warrior. you say its not viable in tourneys why? i prevent enemies from rezzing teammates. i kill fast and effectively in group fights. im always putting presssure with a fire field on points. im very mobile which helps to escape deaths and get to objectives. so tell me why these specifications are not viable

Drek Thalon.5490:

You say “Viable pvp build” and then I open it up and see “serker amulet (ofc)” and /facepalm.

if you use any other amulet you are a fool because warriors do not have sustain why use something with less damage? yes u wont die as quickyl but you sure as hell wont kill anything

Steelo.4597:

this is the best warrior build i know for 1v1, but definately not viable in spvp, not even in 1v1 any competent player will dodge your burst, wait for lyssa boons to expire, then proceed to own you. ive been running something similar for months in wvw, thats where the fun is at with this kinda build (disengage with rush+whirlwind and bullsrush = superb trolling), but in spvp? you can only down fools with this, sorry :P

everyones opinion is negative but honestly this build is very viable in tpvp. even high lvl tpvp. they can not dodge the fire field burst from longbow if your enemy wants to stay on the point. arcing arrow hits very hard. just today i was i a tounrey and i killed a ransacker mesmer rank 47 and then his thief tried to shadow refuge him and i 100 bladed them killing the mesmer then the thief at half health i used longbow burst arcing arrow and killed them both. it was pre made vs pre made but i made the right decision at the time to go far. this build is very viable but once again it is not the build that makes the player it is the player that makes the build.

it is a great build because you do not suffer from low crit chance even tho no points in arms. it maximizes damage and even gives 50% more damage with full adrenaline and 50% less hp 100 blades will finish anyone and all it takes is one frenzy 100 blades timed right but people are just bad

jsut annoying cant even post a build with out hate spam when i know this is great because ive used it and dominated even today. i use to run this with axe shield gs b4 patch but come to realize all melee in this game of GW2 is just not viable you melt

A lot of people complain about the warrior being a weak class. Even with the recent buff people still complain. Having played warrior for quite some time now I feel that warrior is a very strong class and is very viable in tournaments. The people that join me in tPvP i know also agree once I am on their team that a warrior is a nice addition to the team. I can’t tell you how many times I’ve rallied a teammate within seconds, prevented rezzes due to 100 blades DPS being too stronk, and win 1v1s with people messaging me after talking smack.

It takes a lot of skill playing warrior and don’t let anyone else tell you otherwise. Knowing when to get in and out of combat is a big key to survival. Killing quickly is key as well because we all know warriors do not have good sustain and this is where the skill factor comes in being able to kill your target quick enough so they cant out last you.

Here is the build I use

http://intothemists.com/calc/?build=-sg-o;1RKFQ0S4cL-60;9;4T;09T18A;42;057B5-k6;2KJG4KJG45Bu

Strength 30 – II IX XI
Arms 0
Defense 0
Tactics 10 – III
Disipline 30 – VI VIII XII

Greatsword – Sigil of Superior Force
Longbow – Sigil of Superior Energy

Superior Runes of Lyssa 6/6

Serker amulet (ofc)

Healing Surge – Frenzy – Bull’s Charge – Balanced Stance (or the signet) – Signet of Fury

remember Frenzy b4 you bulls charge lol
Timing is everything takes a lot of skill to play but Mos Def a great addition to any team

with love

from the

Duck

Ps if you need help message in game and watch me for a little bit and i can show you how to play