Guild Wars 2

agree entirely with OP I am struggling with spirit watch and also battle of khylo – have tried for 3 days without getting the map at all need few achs in there too – should be some way of getting them! feel really demoralized by it all as out of my control

I keep joining queue and keep getting pvp abandoned message after a short while cant enter any ranked pvp

I took part in automated tournament last night which I assume has ended but says I am still in in cant leave and cant play any other pvp as a result

I have destroyed all statues (17 of them) on 2 different characters and both times achievement did not trigger ? anyone else had this is it bugged?

I have destroyed all statues 17 in total on 2 different characters and still no achievement triggered ? bugged

bugged for me too done the Grawl heart today vendor wont sell me the firestone cant make elixir for today and cant enter bitter cold

bugged for me too exactly the same- done the heart and story cant purchase firestone

Have sent in game mail and pm via forum hoping to hear reply

I have done 2 events separately on fire island for collecting coalescence and got gold réward on both – but no credit on achievement ? bug

I am getting exactly the same bug done the heart but task master achievement has not updated to show this so I cannot complete this achievement

I have tried this quest in toxal bog brisban wildlands for over 24 hours now
Help UNIT golem find and destroy inquest is bugged
golem stationary at hero point no spawns of inquest appearing at all and event has stalled as a result – am trying for giant slayer achievement and this is the main way of getting it

chaos.3062:

apharma.3741:

Ross Biddle.2367:

Aren’t you inexperienced with warrior?

Playing the class effectively still requires proficiency.

You don’t see my jumping on scrapper so I can faceroll my way with an autoplay hammer spamming class. It’s just not gonna play out that way for me XD

Oh Ross, don’t play yourself down or the absurdness of scrapper. You could probably switch to it and roll your face across most people. I know sometimes I switch to hammer scrapper instead of power shatter mesmer and it’s a complete faceroll, then I weep salty mesmer tears for an hour.

Ithil, you can still get the wings even if it takes you more than 4 seasons so long as they keep the format, it just might be more expensive from what I heard. Needless to say I doubt you won’t get them.

No you can’t, on wiki it says available only during 2016 pvp seasons.

yes you will be able to, anet have already confimed there will be ways for people to obtain the backpack after season 4 has finished by other means
so don’t worry – it might be more expensive but you will get it after this year is over

LordOtto.2650:

It’s the easiest climb ever, in 2 hours I have sapphire tier 5 +2 pips..the one what bothers me is the queue..

not for everybody

I started in emerald and my achievement updated for going from amber to emerald so seems to be working ok for me

personally this season has been the worst experience of my 10 years of guild wars playing but then I suppose there are always 2 sides – winners and losers – and your opinion probably depends on which side you are – for me 99% of matches were blow outs and no real competitive ones. Too many endless losing streaks without any hope and factors outside of my control – but I made loads of mistakes at the beginning and paid for it and I am still learning . my season was effectively over 3 weeks ago

MoVitae.2417:

I’m sure that Anet will make the backpiece obtainable some other way in the future. Here’s why. The problem is the sub par matchmaking algorithms used up to now, which do not capture the effective level of players. As matters stand, players of all skill levels are scattered across all divisions (excluding Amber) and are pinned there unless they resort to meta-tactics to circumvent the adverse effect of matchmaking. This must be addressed at some point but in any case there will be another chance to get the backpiece.

they have already confirmed this on a previous post on the forums
there will be a way to obtain the backpiece after the whole season is finished not sure how but everyone will be able to get it eventually

https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/game/pvp/Stopped-dead-on-Wings/page/2#post6075029

Vicariuz.1605:

Caedrion.6104:

<— on it atm and the attitude im trying to keep is fairly the same as yours , just with little to no results for my troubles , had a 30+ losing streak interrupted by a lonely win and back to losing again, ppl just dont give a kitten and will ultimately end up were they feel like it, cap mid drop it to free roam. not capping close or 4 ppl camping close from the start of the game and enemy team isnt even pushing it.. i mean c|rap u don’t even see on unranked..

Communication is vital is a team based game and you’ll know that u are entering kitten when u type @ the start and ppl don’t reply

My advice is, if you lose 3 in a row, stop playing for an hour. This will ensure you are matched with different groups of people.
What division are you currently in?
What class are you currently playing?
Are you capping home at start if no one is?
Are you back capping / decapping open points when given opportunity?
Are you +1 fights that can be won instead of fighting on stalled points?
Are you keeping track of respawns and calling them to your teammate on far point?

Keep making the correct choices, even if you do not win. There are choices you can make that can help to swing momentum in your favor even if just a little.

taking breaks for hours or even days has not helped me one bit

Locuz.2651:

godsie.2864:

still will not change the fact that people wont play out of fear and will compound the problem of long queue times in the higher division

Thing is… if they remove division locks it is pretty much a ladder system like we had before.

The vast majority of the higher rated players those days played for the sake of playing; not because we wanted to maintain our top X ranking.

And thats how it should be. The main incentive of getting to higher leaderboard ranks/divisions was (and should be) “playing quality games with and vs quality players”. If you keep that in mind you realize that stopping at that point would be totally pointless.

but most I suspect don’t think like that eg AP hunters and PVE’ers wanting backpack

Nightshade.2570:

I think somewhere that somebody got this idea and they think this will help them only get highly skilled players on their team and they think the players currently in their division don’t deserve to be there. While that might be true for some. What they don’t realize is the impact this would have on each league season.
1. First off if you dont get everything you need for the legendary you’re going to be able to earn it outside of seasons. So if you think this will make it more rare your wrong.
2. Often people ask for this and dont realize they will be one of the ones losing divisions.
3. Players will get to Ruby or diamond and will quit playing or go to unranked. This has a huge negative impact on the community. Because matchmaking at the beginning of the seasons is currently a mess as even anet stated.
4. Queue times in ruby and above will soar. More people will leave as they wont have the time.
5. Rewards wont encourage people to risk losing their division, because most people have lives and jobs and dont have the time to grind out games.

We need pvpers spread out across all tiers or this system dies. What makes a player equal to each tier is impossible for a lone player to decide. If match making is improved (less blow out matches)you could possibly get rid of win streaks so that people would cap out sooner at a 50/50 ratio. This would require new to ranked players going through a test period to avtually assign them an mmr to start vs. A default average value.

excellent post agree entirely

that would be a good solution

still will not change the fact that people wont play out of fear and will compound the problem of long queue times in the higher division

megilandil.7506:

no

the way is incentivate players to stay in the division that reached (perhaps a bonus multiplier reguards and mf in it)not to create alt acounts

losing divisions will make a lot of players once reached legend stop play for not descending and the others simply because interminable queue times

asume that: population is low and losing divs will maintain top tier divisions much low populated

and the mid low players the last we want is “pros” trolling in oir divs whith alts

exactly agree 100%

skullfaerie.7203:

godsie.2864:

I do blame myself and have tried very hard to improve and look at my faults – but once you don that it is still very hard with the system to make progress – I am where I should be I feel but still get no competitive matches and no chance of even seeing progress from my efforts to improve

Good for you. Most people just place blame elsewhere. Idk you, so you said, you might be where you should be, either because you’ve hit your skill ceiling or because this is as high as your current skill level will get you. I can’t tell you. But I’m not sure what you’re expecting. If you are where you belong currently, you wouldn’t make progress, if the system was working (I’d argue it isn’t. It’s far easy to progress). And if you continued improving, you’d probably see progress. As far as competitive matches go, you don’t really get many (if any) of those anywhere.

This is assuming you’re not affected by some form of elo hell. But as I understand it’s a minority who are experiencing this issue, so chances are many of the people complaining about being stuck are not experiencing elo hell.

I feel I have the ELO hell effect from my past historical MMR I would have to win about 100 matches consecutively to make any progress on my MMR now so I have to put up with that
as far as what I would like – some competitive matches and a chance is all – I know I wont get that from posting on forum but makes me feel a bit better anyway

Spartacus.3192:

I started season 2 late and played pretty casually but what i did was start playing solo Q. When i had a good match or even a bad match i would whisper someone who i felt was playing decently and asked if they wanted to duo Q. Most times they would say yes. We would then play another match. Depends on how we felt we would either stay duo q or invite another to make a Trio.

We never went higher than Trio.

I made enough similarly ranked friends to be able to duo q at least half my matches (probably 75% of my matches). This enabled me to keep approx 65-70% win rate this season without trying too hard.

(I played Scrapper, DH and Rev depending on team comp)

Teaming with someone you feel plays decently reduces the “OMG you guys are all noobs” effect.

will keep trying with that advice thanks

NeXeD.3042:

Archon.6480:

godsie.2864:

I have never claimed to the best and never want to attain legendary rank judging by the attitudes of most people in higher divisions.

Hey, hey, we’re not all bad. Even some of the ESL players have been pointing out there are problems. Some of us really enjoy the game and care that there are problems. I would be surprised if NeXeD is legendary, even more if he is any good…

havent claimed to be good or legendary even once. go ahead try and find it. ive constantly said that im not a great player. But im not going to attribute my losses to anyone other than myself with the exception of a DC.

although i will admit i do have around an 80% win rate in season 2.

you must have no afker’s in any of your matches then – well that’s nice for you

Archon.6480:

The strategy for matching solo players up has some problems that I think will be fixed next season. The only foolproof way to get out of the snowball is to find some other players around your skill level and team up with them. Three players can break the snowball easily (In my experience). Even two can make a difference.

Don’t listen to the trolls. I am sure you are not ESL caliber (neither am I), but it’s fair to say things are tilted against you. Be really nice to everyone and open in chat at the start of a match. Say what you are planning to do, even tell your allies you are on a horrible snowball, do your best, remain positive, draw on map, etc.

If you find a good ally, add them as friend and try to team up. I had a lot of help this season from friends and the matches went from horrid to exciting. Good luck, keep playing your best and use your social prowess to overcome the system.

A very helpful post thanks – I will try my best I do sometimes ask in map chat and also if I find a good match with nice team afterwards ask if they want to team up again but most don’t respond – however your post gives me bit of hope

so once again thanks -

NeXeD.3042:

godsie.2864:

I have gone through multiple strategies already believe me

ok you are right clearly you have tried everything and have improved to the point where you are probably the best player in the game, its clearly just the man keeping you down, i think i got an email from the devs about how anyone that ends up on your team is supposed to just not try.

I have never claimed to the best and never want to attain legendary rank judging by the attitudes of most people in higher divisions. I am continuing to try and improve – obviously I have a lot to learn but because of my historical MMR it is very hard to show that progress no matter what I do. I freely admit I cannot carry teams I don’t have or will ever have that skill – but I can play my part I feel better. I just wish to have a chance to enjoy pvp and good matches.

skullfaerie.7203:

Uh.. it wasn’t great, match/player quality didn’t particularly improve between divisions, it wasn’t hard probably a bit easier than last season tbh, but I had to force myself to play. Biggest problem is no division loss. Too many people of low skill in leagues they shouldn’t be in, complaining about huge loss streaks, convinced they ought to go even higher when they really ought to go down. I didn’t enjoy it.

I’m not trying to be mean, but every player I encountered in my matches who claimed to be on a huge loss streak or being stuck… was stuck for a reason. If you’re stuck, maybe instead of blaming the system, consider if it’s not maybe you that’s the problem. Sorry for the truth bomb.

I do blame myself and have tried very hard to improve and look at my faults – but once you don that it is still very hard with the system to make progress – I am where I should be I feel but still get no competitive matches and no chance of even seeing progress from my efforts to improve

Zelda.6325:

Balance bad, elite specs all need to be nerfed. Matchmaking much bettet, the winstreaks let me pretty much breeze through to diamond where i then got some close matches. Was playing shatter mesmer soloq.

People need to be able to lose division. The main problem i ser everywhere is people who are experiencing lose steaks. This is not because of bad matchmaking (likely), but the fact that they get stuck in a division that is too high for them.

as said before then people would get to their high division and not play anymore thus increasing queue times even more and lead to far less competition than there is now so

I have gone through multiple strategies already believe me

NeXeD.3042:

godsie.2864:

Ellie.5913:

@godsie, Everyone with half a brain knows this seasons matchmaking fails but trolls will be trolls cuz thats the only thing they know how to be. You don’t have to justify or explain anything to them also if you keep feeding them they just keep trolling more cuz no mater how much you feed em they never get full. Do what I do… just point and laugh and let them be.

I will remember that thanks for your post actually does help as well

Just because someone has a different experience and or opinion does not make them a troll.

But the blame everyone else strategy works for some people i guess.

does not work for me

foogison.5067:

PVP rewards have ALWAYS been super exclusive to top tier PVPers, and The Ascension is already imo way too easy to get.

except that the ascension is not a PVP only reward – it can also be used in PVE and is currently the only available legendary backpeice with switchable stats would not mind if it was ONLY able to used in pvp but its not

Caedrion.6104:

Ellie.5913:

Zodi.8932:

Absolutely awe full. For me last season was miles better. Matchmaking is so beyond broken that it prevents good players from getting to Legendary and allows PvE players who have barely touched PvE to go straight to Legendary. I sincerely hope something changes.

Sooo true, I’ve read so many posts by PVEers who never play pvp that said it was super easy getting to legendary and read even more posts by people who have been playing ranked pvp for years that say they can’t win for kitten this season. (even though they used to win frequently) How can anyone take pvp in this game seriously anymore, its like a huge ROFLMAO joke.

^ this is over 9k spot on… thank you Anet… on your attempt to get pve players more involved with pvp u actually made the ppl that loved pvp hate the @#$ of this game..

Cause leaving ppl to their own business was somehow wrong in your books, lets mix it all up and see what gives..

this is so true

Ross Biddle.2367:

Just do what I do

WIN

aww if only!! in my dreams – I would take a set of 3 consecutive wins at this point!

Ellie.5913:

@godsie, Everyone with half a brain knows this seasons matchmaking fails but trolls will be trolls cuz thats the only thing they know how to be. You don’t have to justify or explain anything to them also if you keep feeding them they just keep trolling more cuz no mater how much you feed em they never get full. Do what I do… just point and laugh and let them be.

I will remember that thanks for your post actually does help as well

Locuz.2651:

godsie.2864:

for the umpteenth time its a TEAM game !!
I recognized that a long time ago and have worked so hard to improve and I definitely have from the start but my MMR is historical and I admit I cannot carry a whole team

so I have done all that everyone “leet” on these forums suggest and it has helped me a lot in my play but unfortunately its a team game so I was screwed long time ago – never mind – I will keep working to “git gud” as every elitist’s answer to everything

I don’t want to be carried just the chance to play with some people who vaguely know what they are doing – but I can wish !!

I start realizing its a state of mind.

Some people are brought up in families where its normal to be on wellfare/government support. Where its normal that you call in sick at school or at your job every month. Where its normal to blame the economic crisis for you not having a job.

And its always someone elses fault!

Point is; some people play the excuse game their entire life. Its always someones elses fault that you suck. I get it.

I have also stated I know and recognize my own faults and that I am not exempt from this – I know where I should be and I have a lot to answer for as well but I am trying my hardest to learn and improve as I have always stated – all I am asking for is a chance to show and carry on improving , and yes some is MY fault I never said otherwise

Caedrion.6104:

So there’s nth to do but to give up something one likes doing and just roll over on a ditch and drop dead ? not going to happen on my case but i can see why ppl do it now.

For a company that stated over and over when ppl complained about sth " That’s not Gw2.. its another MMO, if u like that u should go play it" type of comments, seems like walking off the beaten path and rly standing out is a thing of the past, 1 Dev reply 21 days ago and nth else since… so Blizzard like.

so agree with this

Amineo.8951:

I’m glad I stopped caring for this game.

I’m more feeling like this myself definitely don’t even care now when I enter pvp matches its got that bad

S2 has been the worst experience of my guild wars playing experience over 10 years, am broken demoralized struggling to progress despite my personal improvement and feel am getting nowhere with endless loss streaks – and the worst part is there is no end in sight kitten will be even worse for me

I wont give up as its not my nature but I have no hpe anymore

bloodpyrope.8630:

Astralporing.1957:

LoL population is much, much bigger, so it’s no problem to them.

It’s not a population issue, it’s a player attitude issue.

Astralporing.1957:

It’s cute that you think GW2 hardcore pvp population is self-sustainable. If not for the “dabblers” and “reward farmers” it would have been in trouble long ago.

What part of my post suggested I was referring to the hardcore population? I’m hardly a hardcore PvPer, but even I recognize the hypocrisy of all these players who barely ever dabbled in PvP before, throwing hissy fits and threatening to leave because they couldn’t grind out a few rewards.

Shockingly, people were playing ranked PvP before leagues and their associated rewards came along. Provided Anet hasn’t driven them away with awful balancing and matchmaking, these players will still be around.

Add to the fact that everyone knows divisions and badges don’t exactly correlate with skill, so why would these players suddenly decide to quit the game mode just because you could drop divisions?

again I say if its so sustainable then why did anet seek to bring in all the pve population with the lure of AP’s and rewards – blame them if you think pvp was fine before – why change!

witcher.3197:

Fivedawgs.4267:

It’s not your fault, the MMR is random is biased against low MMR players. I know the feeling,

First step, stop blaming the matchmaking. It’s almost certainly the player’s fault. This week we got a pug complaining that he lost like 15 in a row and matchmaking sucks, then he proceeded to throw the game by losing to classes he’s supposed to counter, wiping under 2-3 seconds in every fight. He singlehandedly ended our winstreak of 25-30.

If you have a lose streak bigger than 3-4 matches, you’re the problem, and denying it won’t help you climb.

for the umpteenth time its a TEAM game !!
I recognized that a long time ago and have worked so hard to improve and I definitely have from the start but my MMR is historical and I admit I cannot carry a whole team

so I have done all that everyone “leet” on these forums suggest and it has helped me a lot in my play but unfortunately its a team game so I was screwed long time ago – never mind – I will keep working to “git gud” as every elitist’s answer to everything

I don’t want to be carried just the chance to play with some people who vaguely know what they are doing – but I can wish !!

Deimos Tel Arin.7391:

have you tried playing reaper ?

once again reaper to the rescue !! that’s all you need

lol – I have tried reaper not helped me one bit

agree with OP – anet has broken me too! have never felt so demoralized !

Rap Tiger.1257:

godsie.2864:

As has been mentioned already in the thread queue times will escalate to the point that there wont be any matches in the higher divisions people who get there who should not be there just will not play for fear of losing their division so you wont have any “competition”

We are already taking queue time high in divisions higher as diamond and legendary, contrary to what you said, the loss division will make people want to really play to win, because if she gets afk, disconnect on purpose or play as it want without worrying about winning will lose division.

Now I see is players sometimes losing on purpose when is without pip to win after winning 2 pips, people simply giving up play when his team is losing because he will not miss pip and is even zero.

Already falling division, I doubt that will give up an easy game or stand losing to earn reward 2 pips, this often happens in emerald, sapphire and amber, people losing 3 games to win 2 pips.

Outside you always pick up again and people on your team playing bad because you can not lose division.

What I said was that once people get to the high division then they wont play because of fear of losing division so there will be much longer queue times because less players will then play

bloodpyrope.8630:

godsie.2864:

then why did Anet feel the need to pull in pve achievement grinders to pvp if it was so self sustainable – why not just have left to the pvper’s!! why have pve rewards in pvp

Why do you assume that it’s supposed to be a PvE reward and intended only for PvErs?

I meant to say it can be used in both pve and pvp

for the pip bonus from a win streak to get to the next tier/division

Rap Tiger.1257:

Losing division is essential in a competition.

reaper it is very strong and needs nerf, the classes must be better balanced, we see that although it has lost division will only help to know which actually have skills or not to help the team climb division.

Another thing is to lose tier division in all, this is a competitive game and not to do charity for new players, if new players want to play RANKED, you must first learn how to play in unranked.

The S2 problem is the lack of balance with classes, people only need to play all the time to climb division since it can not lose it, and is there tying a few times to climb if that division is not for it is really there .

As has been mentioned already in the thread queue times will escalate to the point that there wont be any matches in the higher divisions people who get there who should not be there just will not play for fear of losing their division so you wont have any “competition”

then why did Anet feel the need to pull in pve achievement grinders to pvp if it was so self sustainable – why not just have left to the pvper’s!! why have pve rewards in pvp

foogison.5067:

PVP rewards have ALWAYS been super exclusive to top tier PVPers, and The Ascension is already imo way too easy to get.

Before there was the Ascension there was Legendary mist walker armor, and i don’t think anyone ever even found out how to make it before they removed it from the game!
https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/archive/crafting/Legendary-Mist-Walker-Armor

The llama mini used to be exclusive to top tier ladder players before it was handed out to anyone via the new tickets.

But nobody ever complained about those things, and do you know why? PVEers didn’t care, and just because some shiny new set of wings come around that are only available in PVP all of a sudden, the PVE kids are mad.

If you want the ascension, play pvp, and earn it. Because that’s what we’re all trying to do, we don’t necessarily want it for just the skin, we want to feel the prestige of showing it off. And that little bit goes away pretty quickly when all the PVE kids are running around wearing the 1 valuable reward that’s exclusive to PVP.

don’t worry there will be other ways to get the ascension even after season 4 has finished – most people will get it and it wont be exclusive and as it stands its the only legendary backpiece obtainable in the game pvp or pve

bloodpyrope.8630:

godsie.2864:

bloodpyrope.8630:

godsie.2864:

bloodpyrope.8630:

Astralporing.1957:

Hammerguard.9834:

Morale of the story; allow division/tier drops.

That would only result in many people outright quitting. Good luck with your match queue times then, especially in higher divisions.

Why would they quit?

this should be obvious!

Well, no. It sounds like you’re saying people who pvped only for rewards/badges and who don’t actually care about improving and facing stronger opponents would quit the game mode.

That doesn’t sound like an issue to me.

No I don’t meant that at all – those trying their hardest to improve and being becoming completely demoralized even more so now than they are and therefore quitting which I can see happening as pvp loses its appeal and the playerbase reduces even further

Why would they become demoralized and quit from losing divisions? If they were supposed to be in that division they can make their way up again. If they are improving, then they will advance. If they don’t belong in that division, they need to go back down.

People on LoL don’t become demoralized and quit when they drop from silver back to bronze. Or if they do, the game doesn’t need players like them anyways.

don’t worry I don’t think there will be that many players left for you to worry about