Guild Wars 2

While we’re at it, I’m upset that I have to do open world mapping to get my legendary. It’s forcing me to play a game mode that I don’t like to get something that I want. I know a great many players who are bored of open world mapping and so I don’t think that this requirement is fair. This is simply a tactic to get dungeon hardcores like me to go out and do open world content. I would prefer it if I just had to get dungeon master instead because I only do dungeons. I also spend lots of money on gems and so my opinion is probably worth alot. Really I think it’s important that GW2 gets with the program and stops forcing someone into playing content that they don’t enjoy.

Basically its this kind of logic. And the reason it’s flawed is because of a few things-

When you want something, its different to when you need something. When you want something you should be prepared to make some sacrifices or do things that you may not want to do. Eg, I want these new clothes, I have work some extra shifts to pay for them. When you need something you may also need to make sacrifices, however you may also have a bit more entitlement to something if you need vs. want.

We play a game now with many different people who all play differently. What you may not like, others may enjoy. Not everyone is going to be happy about doing ‘a’ to get ‘b’. I like doing dungeons but I want an ascended armour/weapon set so that my dungeon runs are even better. I have to do something I don’t want to and farm dragonite in open world and WvW etc. Meanwhile somebody else wants a legendary and needs 500 dungeon tokens and he hates dungeons. That’s just how it is. Maybe, somewhere along the way while we’re off doing things we wouldn’t normally do, we discover something we enjoy in doing it. Hey maybe open world isn’t so bad, maybe fractals aren’t that bad. etc. Or maybe we continue to hate those things. Either way though, if you want something, you need to be prepared to make a sacrifice because we live in a world where everyone is different and while you may hate fotm, there’s probably someone out there who’s really happy that fotm relics are what’s required instead of having to endure more living agony.

Hard Mode:

You enter the dungeon with four other players who have been selected by the game.

Setting One Let me tank this:
All your selected team mates are running PTV builds.

Setting Two My dps is better for long fights:
All your selected team mates are running full condition builds.

Setting Three It’s all about skill, not builds:
All selected team members are playing how they want. Bars filled with racial skills, GS mesmers bouncing around, flame-thrower engis, staff necros, hammer warriors, bowbears you name it.

Setting Four reminisce days past :
Magic find armour, weapons and accessories are now forcibly placed onto your entire team’s gear setups. All traits are removed.

Setting Five I can outheal all the damage and carry my party:
Your selected party members are in full Nomad’s gear.

Setting Six Prepare your kitten:
Your selected party members are graded to be more likely to be grouped with you based on the increased amount of times they have mentioned the following words and phrases in their forum posts and in game:

• Toxic
• I play how I want
• Condition damage actually outdps’s Zerker in 5 man dungeons.
• Everyone else in my party dies except me, I’m always the one ressing. That’s how I know my tank build is good.
• Axe mainhand ranger is only 10% less DPS than the meta and it’s really strong.
• Ranged DPS is good.
• Check out my burning build, it’s amazing.
• Elitism
• I got kicked out of my group at the end of the dungeon and I don’t know why. It’s all a conspiracy hatched up by this toxic community to stop good people like me playing the game.
• Nerf zerker gear please.
• Skipping is exploiting.
• Using reflects is exploiting.
• Using Zerker gear is exploiting.
• I play the game the way it was intended
• Stacking is exploiting.

I’m sorry guys but I’m afraid this thread is going off topic.

We are not here to discuss:

• RP walking
• Vitality
• Night sigils
• Force sigils
• Swiftpaw in dungeons. Even if she is one sassy lady.

CC Danicia, shut this bad boy down.

Let me see what I can churn up here from my patch notes. Ah yes here we are my friends.

The dredge carriage in the underground fractal now has the following functions:

• After defeating each dredge wave, 6 wisps will spawn at various places around the map. Party members must split up to retrieve these wisps and place them inside the carriage within the time limit of 20 seconds.

• When a player approaches a wisp, a champion dredge mob will spawn that must be killed within the time limit in order to pick up the wisp.

• Failure to run all 6 wisps in will reset the dredge carriage back to its first initial wave and buff the health of the dredge mobs by 150%. This is to encourage teamwork and add value to completing the task the first time around.

Thanks to the awesome spreadsheet math work of Dekeyz of DnT combined with a slick format by Queicherius.2563, we now have a quick and easy to use calculator for dungeon party compositions!

Reddit Link to Dekeyz’s Spreadsheet math:
http://www.reddit.com/r/Guildwars2/comments/2bem98/pve_nonfgs_dps_for_each_profession/

Reddit Link to the calculator:
http://www.reddit.com/r/Guildwars2/comments/2bi24g/pve_group_dps_calculator_based_on_dnt_spreadsheet/

Direct calculator Link:
http://gw2dps.david-reess.de/

Dekeyz’s Concluding remarks: Shoutout to Nike for helping a lot with this project in its many phases. While this was all a very fun mental exercise, it really won’t be useful until the meta shifts away from conjures. Until then, please refer to my FGS 12-second rotational DPS calculations located at http://www.dtguilds.com/forum/m/6563292/viewthread/13086970-who-picks-up-fgs to inform party composition decisions. Also, if something looks amiss, please ask about it.

Maybe no one will replace her.
I can see it now, it’s going to be anarchy.

-Lilith’s fashion thread will become the seedy corner of the subforum, filled with strippers and inappropriate pictures of asuras and charrs fornicating.
-Iris’s [Noob] mentor thread will become a flame war between the casuals over which is better, ‘tanking’ or healing?’
-That filthy forum cretin Swiftpaw will have her account restored and rule supreme. She will lead a hoarde of zerker scumbags around the various subforums beheading anyone who does not convert to the meta.
-Guanglai will finally lose his sanity and explode. The aftermath is 5 person necromancer parties = new meta.
-Colesy will get a sex change IRL and insist that everyone on the forums refer to him as ‘Lady Sarah Mahariel’* as per request.
-Atse will make a spectacular comeback and write a thousand page thread of haiku’s dedicated to the endeavour of skilled play in a baron and hopeless zerkexploit meta.
-The toxic community will become acidic, and elitist jaguars will prowl the tech support forums, questioning anyone that plays on potato quality computers.
-Brazil will spam giant green hulk-kittens in every single thread.

Alright I’m back from google translator.

Obtena.7952:

Maybe you should reflect on how that makes you feel and think about how the first guy in GW2 that was kicked for using the wrong build or gear felt as well

So how many FPS are we talking here?

… and the message that sent him on how to behave ingame. Intolerance didn’t start with play how I want people. If your being randomly abused by people, think of why that’s happening …

So what you’re telling me is.. We need to hunt down the first guy to ever treat a random PHIW’er badly.. and burn him at the stake for his actions. He caused a domino effect that is causing me grief today!

Grab your pitchforks boys, we’re gonna settle this once and for all. Elitists UNITE

I have had a recurring dream, and it refuses to go away. I stand in the doorway of a poorly lit room. It’s musky and smells of age old cologne and festering food that has been forgotten about. It’s filled with a few creaky leather chairs that rock back and forth methodically, within them decrepit people sit. Their eyes, framed in crows feet are glassy. Some of their mouths sit askew, their jaws loose on hinges worn away.

There’s a small window in one corner, its panes murky and fogged from years of neglect. A beam of pale light sifts through it and from time to time one of the inhabitants stares at it longingly. A clock ticks somewhere, a constant ‘flick, flick’ to maintain a room that is slowly creeping through the years.

One of the chairs groans, I turn to look at it. Within a lady sits, her face contorted. An arm like a withering branch is extended from the leathery confines of her seat. After a few moments a nurse swoops in from nowhere and places before the lady a tray. Upon it as if spawned from a portal to another world, a silver laptop rests.
‘Yes dear’
She croons
’It’s alright, I’m here… Yes, you want me to to log it in for you? That’s lovely dear.’
The lady in the chair begins to sway to and fro with furore,
‘Mhmm!! mhmm!! Toxic!’ she shrieks as she glares at the screen.
’ You don’t like what this man says about the berserker builds? I understand it’s ok.’ the nurse replies.
She leans over and begins to type carefully. Every so often the old woman nudges the nurse with a shaky leg and murmurs causing the nurse to tap one too many keys and typo. The nurse smiles and continues until the mumbling and bumping stops. She turns to check that the lady is satisfied with her contribution and then backs away.

As if a fire has ignited within this lady’s soul she sits up abruptly and smacks a bony finger down on the mouse keys.
Perhaps she is reliving her childhood within that very moment.
Perhaps as she brings her finger down on the ‘post reply’ button, she remembers something.
Perhaps, for just that moment…
She is alive again.
A tear peels down her cheek and she sinks back into her seat.
’I’ll always play how I want, always.’
‘Yes dear, I know dear.’
The nurse quietly plucks the laptop from the tray and dissipates from the room as the lady drifts back into her glassy eyed stupor. The light flickers in the window and outside somewhere a car sputters past. The clock ticks on.

What’s wrong with the game, Anet
People playin’ like they ain’t got no ranged weps
I think the whole forums addicted to the drama
Only attracted to things that’ll bring you trauma

Over LFG, yeah, we try to stop stackin’
But we still got elitists here playin’
In the LA, the big GMB
The Colesys and The Liliths and The Swiftpaw

But if you only have love for your own class
Then you only leave space to discriminate
And to discriminate only generates hate
And when you hate then you’re bound to get irate, yeah

Madness is what you demonstrate
And that’s exactly how anger works and operates
Man, you gotta play how you want just to set it straight
Take control of your mind brain and meditate
Let your bear pet gravitate to the mob, y’all, y’all

People stackin’, people dyin’
OP’s hurt and you hear them cryin’
Can you practice what you preach?
Or would you turn the other cheek?

Danicia, Robert, Hrouda help us
Send some guidance from above
‘Cause people got me, got me questionin’
Where is the Stack? (Stack)

Where is the stack (The stack)
Where is the stack (The stack)
Where is the stack, the stack, the stack?

It just ain’t the same, old ways have changed
New meta is strange, is the game insane?
If Clerics and Nomads are so strong
Why are there pieces of trash mobs that don’t belong?

Ele’s droppin’ swords
Toxic communties fillin’ lungs of little ones
With ongoin’ sufferin’ as the zerker’s die easy
So ask yourself is the stackin’ really gone

So I could ask myself really what is goin’ wrong
In this game that we playin’ in people keep on stackin’ in
Makin’ wrong decisions, only visions of them dividends
Not respectin’ each other, deny thy brother
A stack is goin’ on but the reason’s undercover

The truth is kept secret, it’s swept under the rug
If you never know truth then you never know stacking
Where’s the stack, y’all, come on (I don’t know)
Where’s the stack, y’all, come on (I don’t know)
Where’s the stack, y’all

People stackin’, people dyin’
Posters hurt and you hear them cryin’
Can you practice what you preach?
Or would you turn the other cheek?

Where is the stack (The stack)?
Where is the stack, the stack, the stack?

I feel the weight of the forums on my shoulder
As I’m gettin’ older, y’all, comments get colder
Most of us only care about gold makin’
Selfishness got us followin’ the wrong direction

Wrong information always shown by the Speed runners
Negative images is the main criteria
Infecting the young mindbrains faster than bacteria
Kids wanna act like what they see in the livestreams

Yo’, whatever happened to the values of humanity
Whatever happened to the fairness and equality
Instead of spreading PHIW we’re spreading animosity
Lack of understanding, leading us away from unity

That’s the reason why sometimes I’m feelin’ under
That’s the reason why sometimes I’m feelin’ down
There’s no wonder why sometimes I’m feelin’ under
Gotta keep my faith alive ‘til stackin’ is found

Sing with me y’all:
One stack, one stack (We only got)
One stack, one stack (That’s all we got)
One stack, one stack
And something’s wrong with it (Yeah)
Something’s wrong with it (Yeah)
Something’s wrong with the Ga-Ga- Game, yeah
We only got
(One stack, one stack)
That’s all we got
(One stack one stack)

EcoRI.9273:

Wasn’t that the very same excuse white supremacist store owners used against black people when they refuse to service them?

How about don’t turn up dressed in a clown suit when attending a funeral that you weren’t even invited to.

OH and then getting mad and angry and making a scene when asked to leave.

Guys leave brittany alone.

“please explain precisely how that person selling a path in any way precludes you from getting a ‘legimate group together’?” -Nike.

I’m afraid our friend here just wants someone to blame and it’s very convenient for him to blame the very people he’s hated all along <3

http://i.imgur.com/j9je5Gw.png

Attention dungeon forum denizens.

I have a job.

Bow down to me. Worship me. Carry me in dungeons. Compliment me on my PHIW build. Comfort me in my time of need, lowly cretins.

Pugs.

Take a screenshot, print it off and send it to arena net in the mail along with a written letter asking them why they haven’t done kitten about this yet.

Obtena.7952:

J Eberle.9312:

Obtena.7952:

J Eberle.9312:

I’m playing how I want, in my own party that I create. People join and expect me to put up with how they want to play. They ignore my request in the lfg, they don’t care about pinging gear and somehow we are on equal footing when it comes to being in the wrong. I don’t think so. They can make their own parties the same as I make mine. I’m not forcing anything on them, they can choose to join my group and adhere to my rules or they can choose to make their own group with their own rules. Never have I joined their groups and told them off for running terrible builds or doing stupid crap because I respect their rules, now all I do is expect that in return and I get abuse hurled at me and labelled an elitist. Lol.

That’s a nice story but play how I tell you people have been hating on play how I want people since BEFORE the LFG thing was established.

That’s irrelevant and doesn’t take away from the fact that this is happening.

I’m not arguing it’s not happening … I don’t even get the point of bringing it up.

Here is an interesting mind experiment … make a game where 100% of the people that play it play how they want … would that game have all of these hateful threads about elitists, etc….? You guys aren’t recognizing that cause and effect here. You slap a guy, he slaps you back. Now your complaining you got slapped? That’s some good revisionist history there.

Sorry not seeing how me making my own party, minding my own business and then having people ignore my requirements and abuse me = my fault.

enables the use of Zerker gear which is regarded as a ‘problem’.

Please see below for how dungeons were intended to be played courtesy of [rT]who have finally seen the light.

I honestly just don’t even anymore. They join without reading, or they read and join anyway and expect a charity run just for them. It’s like the lights are on but nobody is home.

I’m playing how I want, in my own party that I create. People join and expect me to put up with how they want to play. They ignore my request in the lfg, they don’t care about pinging gear and somehow we are on equal footing when it comes to being in the wrong. I don’t think so. They can make their own parties the same as I make mine. I’m not forcing anything on them, they can choose to join my group and adhere to my rules or they can choose to make their own group with their own rules. Never have I joined their groups and told them off for running terrible builds or doing stupid crap because I respect their rules, now all I do is expect that in return and I get abuse hurled at me and labelled an elitist. Lol.

There needs to be one of those Captcha things that people have to fill out before they join a group to ensure that they read the lfg lol.

Dearest Gale,

My love,
I would totally fly all the way over from Australia to see the team but I get this feeling they would not be able to handle my obscene language and offensive tendencies.

Forum posters the world over rue the day I come into any civilised chat session, I am unwanted they say, off topic they say, offensive and inflammatory they say!

I can only imagine that in person I would be an even more disgusting and unruly individual. My sincerest apologies, as I do hold ArenaNet close to my rotten heart.

Yours in parting,
GMB.

PS – My good friend Brazil may be interested however.

I am a very seasoned pugeoneer.

Where do I even kittening begin?
Where does one start with what appears to be the decline of the species?
Keep in mind that this is the place that I need, this is my therapy after performing countless surgeries, many of which were sadly unsuccessful and resulted in the loss of the patient. It’s very emotional ok.

First I’m going to outline the source of the disease. Then we’ll move on to susceptibility, disease vectors, early symptoms and treatment. Keep in mind that the further a patient is into the disease, the more terminal it is which is why I’ve lost countless people on the operating table that is zerk only LFG pugging.

Many people, including myself from time to time, have a hard time comprehending how a patient’s logic becomes so twisted. What was one thinking when he traited strength in numbers and placed signet of judgement on his bar? Well I’m here to tell you the sad truth. Many don’t think much past ‘this sounds good and I like the idea of it’ and this is something that you will find commonly in new players. That’s fine. The problems are the ones that have been around a long time, and continue to think this way. How did it get this way for them? Well it started with that mentality, and then it stopped there. They did not progress. Much like an underdeveloped fetus, this is the extent of their abilities. They have and always will, play whatever makes them feel special and good, even if it is clearly a detriment to the team. I call this foggy eye syndrome, their eyes are so clouded with snowflakes that they cannot see the destruction they are causing around them with their headshot rifle, staff guardian builds etc. They will also happily join meta only parties and insist they are contributing, often convincing themselves that they are playing the biggest and most important role in the party and/or carrying zerk bads hard.

Then you have the people I like to call metabaddles. They got their build off metabattle and haven’t bothered to think about if it’s actually good or not. While metabattle is currently (trying?) to correct their awful dungeon builds, some are still out of date and sadly once a person becomes infected via metabattle, they don’t return to the site to see if there’s a better build or an update. So you have people from aeons ago running these awful builds, thinking they’re doing the right thing, and because these builds with awful traits and weapon sets had zerker gear, they think this is the best build possible and really good for zerk only/meta only parties. When questioned, they become immediately defensive and start claiming that metabattle is the one true god and will be kitten ed if anyone insults their prized deity. Concurrently we have the youtube ‘community’ who jump onto any ‘popular’ channel and immediately think that because a build has lots of likes and views it must be showcasing the best, most efficient build out there, I mean come on, since when can lots of people be wrong together?!! http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jonestown

As for vectors, along with the sources we also have word of mouth. This is especially prevalent in large guilds guilds with lots of people. Everyone’s got an opinion and no actual facts. They get their bad builds from above sources and then spread it like wildfire throughout their guild members, this in turn is transmitted when they get out into the pug parties and start telling new players to run these awful builds, as they are the best. A common warning sign as an example, is watching a nomads guard continually congratulate himself on a slow run, by saying that his party members never got downed, and spam pinging his skills at what he perceives to be important moments that he alone is controlling. The new player is easily impressed by this and will take interest in running that build.

Cont..

Early symptoms: These are very easy to spot and I’m sure your average player has encountered these cringe worthy moments many times. The patient will often start with innocent questions, such as ‘is p/p thief any good? Does staff on guardian do the most damage?’ Of course the answer is no, but then the patient will keep asking the question until they get the answer they want, all it takes is one person (usually someone else who is infected) to agree with them and say what they want to hear which is ‘yes, this build is good’ for that person to then become infected too. They will then cling to that notion and completely ignore anything else. Often times they will take to forums with these awful builds and seek further confirmation, completely tunnel-visioning through any rational argument and looking for anyone willing to give them a pat on the back and tell them it’s a job well done. This in a way, is much like a person with 2 voices in their head. A small whisper says ’it’s bad’ but a strong voice bellows ‘ITS A GOOD BUILD’ over and over until the small doubtful voice is quelled. Seeking confirmation from others is important in making sure that small doubtful voice kittens off and is never heard from again.
Treatment is extremely reliant on the stage of the disease that the person is in. For example, someone with 15k AP and a bunch of legendaries running a staff AH guardian with bloodlust stacks and a bunch of shouts is a hell of alot harder to cure than someone with a couple hundred AP and a thrown together build of whatever he thinks might work because he doesn’t know any better. Remember that ignorance is not part of the illness and is perfectly excusable, however self denial is a huge problem and often results in the terminal diagnosis. If one wished to treat these patients it must be done with care. Show them the difference, ask them to try some things, work them into it slowly. The realisation of what they’ve been doing wrong will be an epiphany that will hit them like a bucket full of bricks.

For those poor souls that fail to see the light.. The p/p thieves, the warrior stacked heavy only parties, the bearbows, the staff camping guards etc etc. Take comfort in knowing that not everyone can be saved, feel good about the ones that you did *sheds tear *

I wholeheartedly agree with the OP. This toxic stacking environment is ruining my immersion. I go into a dungeon and I expect to be able to play my class as it was intended. Why should I, as a RANGER be forced to stand in melee range with my LONGbow? It’s called *long*bow for a reason, it’s because it’s meant to be used at long range. I can understand that my bear pet needs to melee, but that doesn’t mean I have to. Seriously sick of the elitism that is rife in dungeon parties these days, the community has really gone downhill.

Back at release I never had trouble getting into groups but now it’s just stupid. They don’t care about me at all, and I’ve had enough. When they’re all on the ground complaining about not enough dps, I’m the last one standing and I alone am ressing them. I have been standing outside of the stack every time and playing as the game was intended and what thanks do I get? A swift kick. Now I understand that there’s a ‘meta’ now, so yes, I have adapted.

I now use a whiptail devourer for the pet because everybody dislikes bears so much. I have really gone the distance to satisfy people here while still staying true to what my class is supposed to be. I even used Search and rescue to res people when their stack dies. I have done nothing but play for the sake of other people since day 1 but nobody care, they are all incredibly selfish. Enough is enough, Arena Net has to make the changes because I’m done making changes to my game play for the sake of other people.

EVEN MORE LEGIT PATCH NOTES

• The kick function has now been removed. Now when someone joins your party you must accommodate them and whichever build they decide to run. This is to create a better sense of community.

• To leave a party formed using the LFG tool one must wait approximately 1 hour. This is to ensure that dungeons are completed within an appropriate time as has always been intended. This also ensures that anyone who thinks they can just ‘up and leave’ a party because they think it’s full of ‘bads’ will stop and have a serious think about why they are playing this game.

• The use of ‘damage’ gear sets.

This has been a serious issue for us and we feel that ’damage gear sets fall into this category:

Any gear sets that have power or precision stats are considered damage sets

These gear sets were initially designed for people to try out as they leveled up and then to be discarded as they realized that survivability sets were clearly what was intended to be used in dungeons. This unfortunately is not the case and we have seen a rather large explosion of the populace take these gear sets into dungeons. We are very clear on this. This is an exploit. Damage sets, and in particular ‘Berserker’ will not be tolerated within the confines of dungeons.

• Added a code that detects the use of berserker gear in dungeons and forwards this information along with all combat logs to an appropriate administrator.

• Added Aetherblade mobs to every dungeon path. This is required so that living failure story can be incorporated into the one place that hardcores thought they could avoid it.

• Added a new combat function. Whenever players come within a 100 radius of one another they receive a debuff called ‘stop hitting yourself! Stop hitting yourself! Why are you hitting yourself!?’

This debuff will cause immediate knock back in a random direction followed by a prompt death. This is discourage the exploit of stacking before we have to take more drastic measures such as banning accounts.

• Added a new NPC to every dungeon path. If this NPC dies, the dungeon will bug out be required to be restarted. This is a change required to create a more immersive atmosphere for the audience that dungeons were initially designed for: Roleplayers.

• Added chuck the Bartender to every dungeon path. One must type ‘/emote Chuck, please fix my armor!’ to repair their gear. This npc replaces the pre existing repair anvils.

• Removed Giganticus Lupicus from all paths of Arah. It has come to our attention that this boss fight does not come close to anything we outlined in out initial design manifesto. Furthermore, those who solo’d this boss are to recieve punishment for ‘exploiting’ as per our agreement with the lfg white knight kickers who have far more knowledge than us on who and who does not exploit along with how it is done.

• This fight has now been replaced with an underwater combat area in which players will face off against an ancient underwater dredge car that spits out aetherblade mobs. Once these are all defeated the car will morph faster than a bad mesmer can moa form lupicus’s locusts. It’s final form will be that of a random Hotw end boss.

-Enjoy
<3

I love this. Best part is the leave the dungeon icon for not wearing zerk. <3

Perhaps I will write a narrative on how the LS should have gone.

Ahh. They say you can’t have your cake and eat it too.. well maybe the OP can’t but I sure as kitten do when I read these threads.

Ropechef.6192:

2:
THERE IS NO DUNGEON DEVELOPMENT TEAM!
they were let go and or absorbed into the Living story teams Any complaints and or suggestions and what not will fall on deaf ears. The dungeons are the way they are now. and will be for the foreseeable future. as much as you may hate X or dislike Y and have a great suggestion to fix Z. I hate to say it, but it wont go anywhere.

So in other words:

Obtena.7952:

^^ That’s just not answering the OP’s question. AH is the most viable in stacking and gives the a very durable build in that scenario. That’s not debatable. The OP also wants to know comparable builds other than AH. While that’s a vague qualifier, I don’t think his intent was to be fed “DPS or FAIL at PVE” rhetoric with the suggestion to run THE highest DPS and questionably durable Guardian builds.

We’ve been through this before. The builds you gave require the player to be knowledge and skilled enough to be played in a manner to make up for any durability they lack in the stats. If the OP was this kind of player, this thread wouldn’t exist.

I never said anything about dps or fail. Those builds I suggested contain both dps and support traits. I have run AH, and I have run this build. Running Obal’s build has actually been easier for me to play because it gives direct/immediate condition removal with virtue of resolve and lower cooldowns on consecrations which includes reflects which are vital in dungeons and all that’s really required. It then leaves room to significantly up the dps. Things die faster and it results in much less of a struggle. The build suggested isn’t actually the highest dps available either. It is a balance of both dps and support. A full dps build would not be running these traits.

It’s also important to understand that dps is also a form of support in this game. You may keep consecrations and resolve in your AH build but you sacrifice so much dps just to get heals from boons for yourself that you are detrimental to your team.

Running AH does nothing for your team. And stacking does not somehow magically change this. It also creates a reliance on something that you don’t need. If you have trouble staying up, I’ll say it again.. Run knight’s gear. This build is not hard to play, don’t insult the skill of the OP.

I’d rather pay and actually get a real expansion.

Xytl.8659:

My necromancer hit 80 yesterday, I have a job, I have not had time to do the story quest yet"

What if those 4 other guys have a job too?

People who are complaining about x are usually the people incapable of doing x.

I get bored so I pick out a noob from the low level areas sometimes and rear them up to be a filthy meta scumbag like myself. I’m always so proud of them, warms the cocles of me heart to see em growin up.

I should be given this job. Long have I served the people of this fine establishment. Ye who come to me unwashed and weary are bathed within the aura of my scumbaggery.

The rise of elitist community is scary. They are very harmful to the rest of us with their efficient build setups min maxing. How long will it be before they force it on the rest of us when we join their clearly labelled lfg groups? What about us? The roleplayers, the casual players and the people who like a real challenge with actual fun builds. We are made fun of all the time. What will happen when we are marginalized and pushed out? Will their jokes about ‘play how you want’ be funny then? We are the lifeblood of this community.

Vox Hollow.2736:

@swiftpaw
If that were true, we wouldn’t have threads like this.

Oh ok, let me rephrase that. You have the freedom to express your desire to restrict other people’s freedoms even if it makes you look like a kitten and a hypocrite. You just don’t have the ability to enforce it thankfully.

CC Danicia, may I please have my patch notes back?

Answer likely = no. So in memory of my amazing notes Lilith I vow to create a new updated version.

GrimmR.3541:

I expected poetry swifty..

No poetry today, don’t feel like farming if you know what I mean -.-

dlonie.6547:

Bye guys.

Regina, please accept my sincere thanks for coming and talking with us, but with no new content on the way, promises of less-buggy versions of the same content just doesn’t do it for me.

I hope the company realizes that it offers one of the most interesting combat systems around, but without fresh, replayable, challenging content…it is being wasted.

It’s been fun. I hope that some day a compelling reason to return will exist. But for now, you guys have dropped the ball hard. Keep listening, keep working, and add new content before its too late.

inb4 BHBs — No, I don’t think I’m special. But I want to let the friends I’ve made on this forum know what happened to me, and let the company see yet another person leaving because of their prolonged silence and Living Story tunnel-vision.

Best wishes,
Dave

Goodbye soldier

*Mind Brain Salute *

I like anecdotal evidence, it’s great.

I’m weird because I don’t mind the living story. It’s there, it’s something to do, it’s ok. But for it to take up the majority of resources and prevent development of real dungeon content is just yeh… horrid. That’s what makes me dislike the LS.

Extra marks awarded for the use of ‘toxicity’ in a creative sentence. 7/10.

As for rewards, they are there but they’re pretty boring imo. I mean, the better you are at clearing the dungeons, the less time you’re wasting and the faster you can make your money. There’s nothing unique, there’s nothing exciting and nothing that makes you stand out from the crowd for having achieved or gotten better at something. They won’t implement that. The QQ will go on forever about how ‘unfair’ it is that the better more skilful players can get something that the lazy and careless can’t.

Also scoreboards while lovely would result in lots and lots of angry PHIW’ers. And I mean a lot. Like most of the ‘community’.

Don’t get me wrong because I would welcome that kind of thing. It just wont happen given the kind of player base this game has. and the lack of interest anet has in anything to do with dungeons. At all.

While we’re at it let’s force the wvw’ers to get rank 20 in spvp to get their gift of battle. It’s only fair.

They need to stop pushing ‘esports’ because it’s not happening.
However, implementing rewards/skins etc to pvp is fine. PvE has had it’s fair share of updates. PvP has less players for a reason, because its rewards are poor and it lacks variety.

If anything they should throw this esports kitten in the dumpster and invest all the time they’ve wasted on that into making new things for all game modes, especially pvp.

I feel better after clicking that

Yes. lets see what the WvW community has to say about a decision that will affect people who play all/other aspects of the game.. Gee I wonder what insightful and informative input they will have..

10 mins later

’*make it harder!**

PUNISH THEM!!! MAKE THEM WVW LIKE WE DO!!!

It’s not faiR UnLesS EVEryoNe SuFfErS ThE SaME!!!

Ah excellent, excellent. Carry on.

GrimmR.3541:

What did I miss ?

Well Grim, needless to say it was saddening. Many a person was broken this day.

I ask myself now,

Where are the days of yonder, where a man step’th into the gutter of the dungeon forums to feel his feet sink into the simpering ooze of stupidity and self righteous anger?
Where be’th the hour upon which the common scumbag elitists would unite to achieve but one goal, to taketh down the potato?
Where o’ where are the serenades, the chants, the lamentations of the just, the self important, the ‘moral’ brigade?
Where be the distinction that was so finely set in stone,
between the meta player and the casual?
Between the joke that is ‘morality’ in a video game and the font of reason that the toxic and vocal minority drink’th from?
Why doth now the oft poster care more for vanity than for the cause that is scumbaggery and entertainment?
Why is it, that we no longer descend into these fits of fancy? These chaotic, yet collaborated threads that bound on in a strong and sickening fashion until’th a moderator doth frantically shut it down?
Why now do thine threads carry on weakly, whimpering off into obscurity until a moderator puts them down out of pity? Without a word, like a whisper, out of sight, gone.
Be it that we no longer care? Long gone is the fire that once ignited within us at the mere mention of a bearbow?
Or be it that the bearbow himself is gone, purged from this hallowed ground of filth and obscenity?
Perhaps it be that we have long discarded our concerns for jest, for comradery and have instead turned to idolize ourselves?
Or perhaps, perhaps we have suffered enough.
A forum plastered with red ‘we care’ posts,
words as empty as a toxic nightmare husk,
the constant and never ending drone of ‘nerf zerk’, ‘I got kicked from x for playing how I want’ , ’I’m important and my opinions matter’… clawing at the last strands of our sanity..
Has this dog of a subforum taken the final kick? Or will it stand for more belting?
What will keep this mange ridden mutt alive?
What will keep the scum, filth and elitism coursing through its veins?
To that I say,
A Heart of Thorns.