Guild Wars 2

Your concurrent total is bigger than our whole server. O_O

I wish the mods would be a little more lenient about the so-called “trashtalking”, at least on the wuvwuv forums. Rivalry is good and keeps things from getting stale.

We’ve played the same matchup 3 weeks in a row now. I’ve gone from a respectful, sportsmanlike mentality to downright hatred at AR and BP because I’m so sick of seeing those kittens all up in GoM’s lawn. In actuality, though, I wouldn’t trade those servers for any others because each week of fighting against them has been an absolute blast AND a good challenge. I just love to hate them… that’s all

Runamok.9638:

doublebb.6574:

styx.7294:

Runamok.9638:

doublebb.6574:

Aww, you mad brah? No need to get them panties in a twist this early, we’ve still got a whole week ahead of us.
xD

I will enjoy a week of GoM bags. I play for fights, I won’t be playing 24×7 for pvdough aka avoiding fights all week. Enjoy your track star skills while I rack up my kills. I am having an awesome start to this matchup.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BpsGNfiqVqA

-brotha

Clicked it thinking it would be a gameplay video showing us what you’re talking about.

Same here. SIlly us expecting the troll to show proof.

I prefer posting music videos over endless shots of me picking up GoM bags.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lmpYEJnGKLQ

-brotha

Well, once you get good enough to actually kill anything, we anxiously await your videos!

pulsecodesgnl.3470:

titanlectro.5029:

We have never encountered anything like Agg before. We are learning and adapting and testing out new tactics. Only time will tell how successful we are, but we are definitely improving. The rest of ET has not been too hard to deal with, and you can easily tell if Agg is online based on whether ET is winning or losing. (No offense intended to ET).

That makes it sound like FoE isn’t present very much. Are they not around anymore? Agg and FoE were two fairly prominent ET thorns in our side while we were down there.

FoE is very present, as are many other skilled ET guilds we’ve come across. We’re don’t intend to slight the rest of the server when we talk about Agg. It’s just that they’re using a particular strategy that we haven’t seen used so effectively at the other tiers we’ve been in, so much of our enjoyment this week has come from trying to solve that riddle. I think we’ve got the right ideas to counter them, it’s just a matter of getting our folks to break some old habits.

Just in time for leagues, I’ve optimized the old perplexity build to get rid of that pesky main-hand weapon. Now you can keep one hand free for more important things while you play! Enjoy a tasty adult beverage, browse the internet for totally sweet kitten videos, or even play another perplexity thief on your second account for TWICE the thrilling PvP action!

http://youtu.be/umKuvv_d-4o

While you guys were squabbling on the forums like a bunch of old ladies, I was doing this:
http://youtu.be/pBMiqNmbiFw

In all seriousness, though, this week was really fun. Hats off to both NSP and AR for the great fights and closest scoring 3-way match-up of the week. I’m sad to see DR taking our place in this tier. We’ll go ahead and hang out with HoD and SF for the holidays, but we’ll be back. And DR better watch their backs.

So long, and thanks for all the badges!

Sororita.3465:

fun times, fun times

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zhdUlvSgVg8

The worst part was mailing me the ectos.

GenerationX.9178:

I had some nice fights last night. I got it on fraps, sorry for it not being ace quality but I though I post it.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-MgMCEJLTrY

You’re a CLICKER??? It’s like I don’t even know you anymore. o_O

Divinorium.8952:

I play since the beta for GoM but i never felt so ashamed before.
Not even when ppl called us of hackers, when some kitten actually did it, neither when we fell to the last tier.

But HoD’s players that transfered to GoM Achieved something i’ve never seen before.

They went in the keep and builded 21 Alpha golems, yes you didn’t read wrong it was 21. (will wait for someone who got the SS to post here, i’m sure someone did)
AND 2 Omega golems.
That’s 31 gold JUST in the golems bluesprint.

They left the Keep and attacked: Wild Creek Post.

And was about that. they managed to lose 16 golems IN ONE kittenING TOWER, WHEN SM had Outter walls down and normal gates.

That’s such a high level of inability, that i’m pretty sure they deserve a prize for that.

And one of these “highly skilled” commander asked why no one, after this ****, was following his order.

A real big salute to the players of “Zombie Land” that for a random reason have “WvW” tag but pls transfer back for HoD.

If i could i would trade all of you guys for 3 NPCs guards for our keep.

Not even funny.

Just about every time I’ve logged in this weekend, we’ve owned SM. Obviously, Zombieland is doing something right. Besides… this story is lacking some details. Was that tower upgraded? A fully fortified Wildcreek is an absolute nightmare to deal with. Was anyone else working on SM at the time? A golem rush on a tough tower while a separate group takes down a wall-less paper SM is a good play.

At any rate, calling them out on the forums is no good. Just send them a whisper if you don’t agree with a plan. They might be seeing something you don’t, or vice versa.

At this rate, HoD might get even bigger than VLK’s mama. She’s so fat she puts on a white sheet for Halloween and goes out as Antarctica.

Harbinger.9645:

Spets the MilkBandit.9031:

As for PvD… just stop already please, you are embarrassing yourselves and your server (which i happen to like). When we logged in it was all blue, myself and rob are bot on GMT times, We were camped and fairly outnumbered…. just because you realised that we came into EB to fight back, you cant just say “ok lets everyone stop trying to fight them, because they will win, instead lets all leave and claim that they pvdoored us while we were asleep, it gives us a much better server image”

I will admit your numbers sucked by the time we took GoM keep, but for the hour prior to that your numbers were very equal to our own, but maybe after we took SM and a few towers some players lost morale. Or maybe they legitimately went to sleep but what do you want us to do? log off? Would you like to see the videos of your defenders actively trying to stop us? I don’t have them uploaded yet but if you so request I will.

As for hacks. no one on NSP actually thinks GoM hacks (except for trolls) We all recognise that there was a server glitch, unfortunately some people abused that glitch more than others, but a few does not a bad server make.

Can we all just stop the QQ and the hacks/spies/teaming up (not sure what gom and hod beef is, but trust me, NSP will fight both with equal respect, we never want a repeat of what happened to us)

I do notice that our downtime seems to correlate with GoM uptime and vica versa, that is unfortunate, But the keeps were by far not defenceless, 2 days ago we fought for almost 2 hours in GoM keep

Can’t really say for sure as I wasn’t really a part of the pvd discussion but I took comments on both sides to be light hearted trash talking. I say that because it still seems like they respect each other and are just laughing each other off.

Same here. I’m not really looking to offend anyone, just taking friendly jabs at Rob as I sift through a google image gallery of door photos. It’s been quite a while since we’ve had opponents who were lively on the forums.

It’s sad, really. This game features a truly remarkable combat system that’s loads of fun to play. Unfortunately, it gets buried under the weight of constant balancing missteps, developer limitations, and a completely garbage relationship with its own user base.

I hate to say it, but this is one game I’d love to see someone make a cheap clone of.

Especially while in quaggan form.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SJSe59OCRv0

Sinester.3572:

=O i can post now!!!! let start whit the massive upscales the enemys have dam paxa leaves hod and now a lot of upscales walk arround mauhahaah and about GOM DAM u guys are weak as hell go to t8 allright and we made a honor attack in memory of server police he run away from us =( so we had to make a small honor golem rush for the man

Here ya go, lil’ buddy.

Oh no, so NSP and HoD are double-teaming GoM. Is this the part where we’re supposed to recruit some people?

thhoj.9382:

madchatter.7964:

thhoj.9382:

This week’s fight night was pretty lame. Not much people showed up

I don’t know where you were, but tonight has been anything but lame…

(teamspeak, ASH channel, go! )

I was talking about the fight night at gom bl southern windmill. No AR showed up. There was like 3-5 peopel from GOM. Only FC had a lot of people from the YARR guild, but they left shortly after since it was pretty dead.

That’s because they’re all busy trying to stream-snipe me. lol

AND LAGGING THE CRAP OUT OF MY CONNECTION >:/

titanlectro.5029:

GoM/AR/BP

We would probably get stomped, but it would be fun for old times sake.

Seconded. Although, I probably enjoy a GoM/AR/DH matchup even more.

Calm down, folks. Everyone’s stated their arguments on the issue and neither side is budging. Now we’re at the point where we’re just repeating ourselves.

Just let it go. There’s only two days left before reset, then Kaineng will become someone else’s problem. If anything, go settle your differences at fight club so you can fight on equal ground.

the sober ninja.6539:

When theives steal they get skills based on the profession that they’re stealing from. If a thief steals to an NPC (like a vet ogre), they have a chance to get other skills. One of these skills is Bone Crack. It STUNS (not daze like thieves from guards) for 3 seconds, which is a long time. I play thief and I think this is way too OP for an environment where PvP happens.

To put it into perspective, this stun has twice as long a duration (and a 1/4 sec cast) as Basilisk Venom, which is an elite skill.

TBH I’m suprised it has lasted this long. I think the best solution would be to make it so you can only steal certain skills in WvW (only the ones we get from players), even from ogres and other PvE.

Thoughts?

You could always bring along a stun breaker to deal with it.

A single-use, 3-second stun attack is nowhere near as powerful as the many spammable and stackable immobilizes/conditions or chainable hard cc you’ll run into frequently in WvW.

We rudely interrupted [DDLG] while they were in their house having family dinner. :/

Solstice.1097:

CornChips.5392:

I for one am very pleased with the turn around of my server. Great job AR!

+1 glad to see you guys show up this week and keep things competitive! i hope your trend continues

Actually, I’d like to extend that sentiment to all three servers. With leagues coming up, many people chose to take the easy route and transfer to other servers that were in better position to place highly. Those that stayed behind to represent and fight for AR/FC/GoM have my full respect. Thanks for playing hard and not giving up on your server.

Cheers!

Aeden.5896:

I love WvW, but I’m a little worried that the changes are going to be something like this:

“Get ready for a one time WvWvW event that will change the borderlands FOREVER!!!

BEHOLD, orbs are back, guarded by a new terror in a previously unseen underwater objective point! Explore these new realms, and you might even find hidden treasures! We’ve added more, stronger monsters to the war lands where agony will kill all but the strongest of hero’s!

You spoke, we listened! One time events. More underwater combat. More jumping puzzles. More exciting dungeon combat. Coming FEBRUARY 15th!"

This was priceless… All of it.

Leagues are done, y’all. Stop fussing.

Galsia.4102:

aLovedhater.4096:

I don’t really want to read the whole thing, but it wasnt a lucky hs ^^ i know how to fight a mesmer, don’t worry bud. it was an easy fight and i didnt take it seriously

Well, I tried offering constructive criticism.

I guess I’ll just go with my initial un-filtered impression: Please don’t shame D/P any more than you already have with that awful gameplay.

It wasn’t a wasted effort. I don’t play any builds even remotely close to what the OP uses and I still enjoyed reading your analysis while scrolling through the video.

+1

FC/AR, I challenge you to GW2 Mario Kart.
Bring it on, scrubs!

Banzie.5248:

kitten GoM.. Where did you all go? I give a shout out to the two GoM guildless upleved that stayed on your BL and valiantly defended your borderlands while you all sat in eb and watched. We literally 1 rammed everything but bay.. That was 2 rams.

I think we’ve all been in the pavilion. We put in some serious overtime to beat Kaineng last week and it seems everyone just kind of took this week off. :/

Dovgan.8605:

moutzaheadin.4029:

Dovgan.8605:

Why is an NSP commander on AR asking us to hit NSP? I call a truce on all NSP targets, and ask we let them hold SMC for the remainder of the week. Lets make this AR vs GoM and let NSP soar in ratings.

Say no to NSP tanking.

Who was this Nsp commander ?? I don’t know about the rest of Nsp , but our guild has been pushing the peddle to the meddle on the pvdoor scene. Sure there are some defenders. But we easily crush them. So it might as well be full pvdoor.

You want to look at tanking.. look at kain.. that’s TANKING.

one more thing. If you play that stupid game of staying away from Nsp to help push us up a tier. Then Nsp might truly go pve for the week , since both of the servers we are facing are pretty much dead already. Its been an absolute snoorefest this week. 7 weeks of this and I might just try my first fotm dungeon.

Ask Os guild, they may have insight.

From the reddit thread, it sounds like Rob is using the patented Honeybuns Treb Placement Method (see screenshot).

The only fix stealth really needs is for the revealed buff to kick in immediately as a weapon skill is used, regardless if it hits or not. Thieves would still retain their tactical advantage, but wouldn’t be rewarded for mindlessly spamming backstab until they hit.

I’m impressed. They managed to find a way to make this game even LESS esports-viable than it was before.

Passive gameplay, for the win.

moutzaheadin.4029:

Dovgan.8605:

Why is an NSP commander on AR asking us to hit NSP? I call a truce on all NSP targets, and ask we let them hold SMC for the remainder of the week. Lets make this AR vs GoM and let NSP soar in ratings.

Say no to NSP tanking.

Who was this Nsp commander ?? I don’t know about the rest of Nsp , but our guild has been pushing the peddle to the meddle on the pvdoor scene. Sure there are some defenders. But we easily crush them. So it might as well be full pvdoor.

You want to look at tanking.. look at kain.. that’s TANKING.

one more thing. If you play that stupid game of staying away from Nsp to help push us up a tier. Then Nsp might truly go pve for the week , since both of the servers we are facing are pretty much dead already. Its been an absolute snoorefest this week. 7 weeks of this and I might just try my first fotm dungeon.

Sweet jesus… I just realized that XOXO is working harder for PPT than any other guild in this entire matchup. WHAT IS WRONG WITH THE WORLD?

That can’t be the real Zombie Land. Not nearly enough golems in that video.

Also: WUBWUBWUBWUBWUBWUBWUBWUBWUB

Edit: Sorry guys. I just made it to the end and saw the golems. ZL confirmed.

Dumb Woob.9415:

Wemil.7052:

yeh yeh really funny if a t3 goes against t7.

the t7 is gonna rage quit and WvW lose more ppls VERY GOOD IDEA!

(leave the game not just WvW)

Ah but this would be a mistake. A server at a vast rating disadvantage (to use your example, a 10 Seed versus a 20 Seed, it makes little sense to use tiers now that there is match-to-match mobility) can come out ahead in rating even if it scores less than 0.5 of the points against the higher rated server. That is, there is also pressure on the 10 Seeded server to dominate the match; if the 20 Seeded server is able to put up enough of a struggle (gaining valuable experience against a better team, as well) it might be able to move up a spot—19th Seed. This is the motor behind rank mobility with the newer system.

This guy gets it.

Lower seeded servers could still gain rating even while getting blown out. The math would then re-adjust the following week with higher probability of finding accurate matches in the newly-adjusted rating spread.

Essentially, this should fix glicko’s tendency to only absorb rating points from within your own tier and lead to much more volatility in the positions.

intimidate much.1298:

Hello all my stealthy, evasive buddies. This is a very simple post with one goal, that is to find out if there is something wrong with this utility! And by this i simply mean, personally 70% of the time im using this skill it does not pull but simply just knocks them down. /:

Is this utility a bit buggy? or?

It’s very buggy, but oh so much fun!

Solstice.1097:

Those of us loyalists that are left have my utmost respect and appreciation… That being said we have not faced a challenge like that which lies in October. We are being forced to make a choice; stay divided and get rolled over in the name of loyalty (at least we’ll have a valid reason to QQ), or unite and stand courageously together against the injustice of the system!

Sorry, Solstice. It’s a nice idea, but if we pool all the talent together on one server, then we won’t have anyone interesting to fight against. Let the bandwagoners have their stupid league so they can chest-thump safely from the comfort of their own zergs.

Fighting Siegerazer is so boring. Stop making me try to PvE! >:/

Muni’s team got all the action, screenshots, and cool stories tonight. We had to settle for making up our own.

Here’s how things looked for those of us playing defense:

1. Knocked out a few jumping puzzles to stock up on blueprints and get ready for a night of awesome fights.

2. 12:03 AM – No sign of awesome fights. Built an offering to Great Lord Flame Ram in hopes that He would send us some worthy competition.

3. 12:25 AM – Great Lord Flame Ram failed to deliver. We have resorted to staging illegal golem/guard cage matches to pass the time.

4. 12:40 AM – A lone HoD elementalist appears! Overjoyed, we gave her the chance to duel what was left of our gladiator golem in single combat. Since Pierre is bad at golems, the fight was short and the result predictable.

5. 1:07 AM – Two NSP stroll by looking for their missing golem. We quickly change the subject and distract them by throwing an impromptu fight club. Much fun and amazing fights were had all around. NSP suspects nothing of what really happened to their golem.

Spirit Ritulist.9314:

[SA] Got bored and now it takes 6 minutes to refresh every piece of siege in WC.

Would’ve built more golems but believe it or not that is max any team is allowed on 1 map didn’t matter where we tried to place them wouldn’t let us lol.

I have the overwhelming urge to push one over just to see if they’ll knock each other down like dominoes.

leviN.4390:

GoM, how many friggin mesmers do you have?

If you are the bunch of guys that held hills over the weekend, and vsing a guardian from (BoM) and a warrior (IoM). We had a nice fight vsing 3 mesmers, 1 guardian(KIA), 1 ele(KIA) before we were taken down by more people :P

I got something like 22 levels yesterday on my mesmer during the Extra Life marathon (finally dinged 80 at around 3 AM). If you saw a blue-haired norn chick wearing Mardi Gras colors, then you’ve met Party Bus Swaggins.

ptitminou.6489:

TeamBattleAxe.3901:

ptitminou.6489:

They even deleted my suggestion of selling publicity on keep doors, like a coca-cola door to increase revenu to make it worth it for them to have a team dedicated to WvW only – goes to show their faith in WvW.

I’d proudly stick a few Natty Light logos on our keep gates. Maybe add a Papa John’s logo on our dolyaks and little pizza boxes on their backs.

We’re very classy over here on GoM.

That’s a great idea for dolyak carrying pizza boxes, didn’t think of it. That idea would totally work, I wonder why they hate it so much.

When he reaches the coca-cola gate, a guard could say, “that Papa John’s pizza tastes great with Coca-cola” [type /ordernow to order at a Papa John’s near you!]

“Dang thieves are always killing our dolyaks and stealing our pizza!”

Sorry, SF. You guys had us outnumbered and we were fighting our last stand protecting the orb in DB. Then, just as you breach the gate, we all get booted back to Lion’s Arch because there’s a new WvW build available.

I know we’re enemies this week, but I feel for ya. That keep was yours fair and square. :/

Mercabre.7123:

TeamBattleAxe.3901:

Mercabre.7123:

styx.7294:

Look, I understand, Henge of Denravi wants to feel kitten but I am going to give you tough love. It’s ’cause I care.

Henge of Denravi wins no fights. They haven’t won a fight in 5 weeks. To win fights, you have to be at fights. A week before leagues, Henge of Denravi heard there might be fights and ran away and hid so that there would be no chance of fights for 7 weeks.

So there can’t be posts about Henge of Denravi bravado, ’cause WvW is about fights you guys made sure to avoid fights for all of the league.

Maybe after this league you will come out stronger and that would be nice to see but for now when tested did you show unyielding courage? No. Unrelenting bloodlust? No. Willingness to stack the odds so high as to show your quality? No. =(

And don’t forget that all three servers that were on the brink of moving up to silver league “slowed down” the week or two prior to leagues. This is not an isolated case of “HoD is tanking they are kitten” because everyone did it that had a chance of moving up but in the end it was NSP that moved up (and probably rightly so). It’s not a question of the server but of human nature.

“Slowed down?” More like tucked tail and hid under the rug. NSP tried to do the same but got called out on it, and their roaming guilds that don’t normally care about PPT actually rose up to carry their server to silver. I still like my pals on HoD and SF, but as whole servers, you’re still a bunch of cowards for tanking to dodge silver league.

Call it whatever you want. Slowed down, tanked, whatever, but every server that was about to move up did it. It’s not our servers, it’s human nature. Don’t act like your server would do anything different in the same situation because they wouldn’t. Even if your personal position would be to move up (I was of the same opinion in terms of HoD) would the rest of your server feel the same way?

I’m not doubting that we don’t have our fair share of players that would consider it, but I can say with absolute certainty that GoM would never tank a match on purpose, simply because the leadership of our largest WvW guilds (the ones that can most affect a scoring rise or drop) are way too gung ho to even consider the idea of tanking. It would be a different story if more passive people were in charge (like in the case of NSP and [Os]), but a vast majority of our commanders are downright nuts.

Lord Kuru.3685:

Saelune.5316:

Long as they are reasonably attainable for people who actually put time and effort into WvW. Would be a cool way to identify other WvWers outside of it, and a good marketing tactic to get more players in it. But if its as out of reach as the titles or something, then forget it.

Definitely not like the titles. More like skins for badges, skins as loot drops, skins for some new kind of token (Anet loves their tokens), or skins for WvW ranks — basically the same system Anet uses for rewarding skins in all other parts of the game.

Given the current shake on how Anet rewards WvW players, expect these WvW-exclusive skins to cost around 100 badges…. plus 10 gold, 20 laurels, a full stack of ectos, and a trophy that you can only get from a legendary npc mob that spawns when your server wins 1st place in their league.

Meanwhile, these skins will be introduced in a later PvE patch as common drops from Risen-type creatures.

Sweetiepie.9270:

Sea of Sorrows is better.

Gates of Madness makes me think of maniacal clowns throwing acid pies. Sea of Sorrows just makes me think of sad puppies. Look at the sad puppy dog eyes…go ahead, I dare you.

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_a_RKnA-5nsI/TLfS8BzbEmI/AAAAAAAAAsI/RQBWDCr-iM8/s1600/sad-puppy.jpg

“Join Sea of Sorrows, the only server that’s so emo that the grass cuts itself”

:D

Just a head’s up:

There may or may not be a GoM WvW livestream tonight around 8pm CST, and it may or may not have a delay because Mr. Mooby may or may not be a stream-sniping jerk. :P

See ya there! (maybe)

evilapprentice.6379:

Acro : Laughable Garbage – as someone already said, who in their right mind decided to tie the effect to revealed? Acro is the defensive tree you go into when you want survivability outside of stealth. Why isn’t it an effect (not necessarily the same effect mind you) tied to DODGING?

Exactly. Acro 30 should be some type of condi-removal on dodge (REAL conditions, not like that crappy Fleet of Foot trait).

NeHoMaR.9812:

Ascended Weapons:
https://www.guildwars2.com/en/the-game/releases/september-03-2013/

My first thought was WvW. Legendaries will be buffed to ascended status, that’s a little avantage in WvW, but you could just get an ascended weapon to have the same, BUT how expensive is that? do I will be forced to “farm” to have the same stats of PvEers?

My guess is yes. Legendaries require an exceptional amount of PvE-exclusive content to complete. Ascended gear IS available through WvW, but you’d still need a ridiculous amount of laurels (hooray for time-gating gear) and ectos (better off farming PvE). Or you can go the guild commendation route, but that’s also PvE crap.

Granted, the advantage gained from ascended gear doesn’t make as much of an impact as skilled play does, but it’s power creep nonetheless. Heavily PvE-dependent power creep.

ARM.3912:

Averaelas.1876:

ARM.3912:

Averaelas.1876:

I will agree to stop putting holes in SM if someone on SF will mail me 150 ancient bones.

Yes, this is extortion.

Yes, you can choke on my kitten.

Yes, I’m gonna swiss cheese dat kitten.

OMG that is brilliant! This game would be so awesome if you could extort the other server for gold at any time. Want us to stop spawning? Make an offer. Want me to stop spamming /sit on your body? Make an offer. I am so glad I thought of this and posted it months ago…

ARM

Shut up ARM :p

All is one in ARM. This mighty body is my church. When I command your surrender, I speak with six billion voices. When I make a fist to crush your resistance. It is with six billion hands. When I stare into your eyes and shatter your dreams and break your heart. It is with twelve billion eyes. Nothing like ARM has ever come among you; nothing will again. I will take you to a hell without exit or end. And there I will murder your souls! And make you crawl and beg! And die! Die! DIE FOR ARM!

ARM doesn’t always speak, but when he does it is the greatest speech ever.

Not only did I start spamming the +1 button before I even got to the second sentence, but I did it with such ferocity that even my heartseeker key would be proud.

Thanks for the compliments! It was a fun video to make. I’m hoping I can get enough footage for a good Rampage video soon. That skill gets no love.

@Tequilapear: The pirate anchor is my favorite. Unfortunately, most of the hammer skins are just downright awful. I wanted to save up and make the legendary one, but I changed my mind as soon as I saw someone running around with one.

While trying to think of ways to counter the current condi-spam meta with my build (I run no-stealth by choice, so I accept the fact that I’m extremely weak to condi-builds), I started messing around with ideas for our stolen skills. Some skills, like Consume Plasma from a mesmer, are extremely good while others are downright terrible. Throw Gunk from an engi misses half the time and is pretty useless except to use as an ethereal field, and Ice Shard Stab is so extremely situational that I pretty much don’t bother stealing from eles in the first place.

I think the stolen skills should represent a thief’s ability to mimic or counter his opponent directly. The current stolen skills are a nice foundation for that concept, but as the other classes have evolved, I feel there’s plenty of room for the thief to adapt as well. Here’s some ideas on what I think would be pretty cool. I’m not going to bother putting specific durations or whatever, but I think the stolen abilities should be scaled to roughly half the duration/intensity of the profession being stolen from for the sake of fairness. After all, the other professions are the masters of those skills… we’re just trying to turn it against them.

Elementalist
Current: Ice Shard Stab – attack and chill a foe
New: Gain Might, Protection, Swiftness, Regeneration (shorter versions of the attunement bonuses, basically)

Engineer
Current: Throw Gunk – inflict a random condition
New: Remove all conditions and gain immunity to conditions for a couple of seconds (sort of like an Endure Pain for condis)

Guardian
Current: Daze foe with a mace crack
New: Grant Aegis, Stability, and Regeneration

Mesmer
Current: Consume Plasma – gain all boons
This one is good as is, or can even be nerfed slightly. It’s THAT good, in my opinion.

Necromancer
Current: Skull Fear – aoe fear
New: Keep the aoe fear, also transfer conditions from you to nearby opponents (short duration… like a weaker version of Plague Signet+Epidemic). If that’s too powerful, then scratch that and perhaps create a Well of Power at your location instead when you use the aoe fear.

Ranger
Current: Healing Seed – water field, regen, and pulse condi removal
Good as is. Extremely powerful in group situations.

Thief
Current: Blinding Tuft – stealth + blind nearby foes
This one is also good as is. Even though I don’t use it. >:T

Warrior
Current: Whirling Axe – spin attack
New: I’m kinda torn on this one. I like the idea of whirling axe, but I think it should have stability on it as well. But I’d also kind of dig the idea of Endure Pain instead. Screw it, give us all three!

The likelihood of any of these ideas getting implemented is absurdly low, but it’s fun to dream. Anybody else got any ideas on how to improve some of our shoddier stolen skills?

Svarty.8019:

• I note with a little disappointment that the other fireworks from this event can’t be used in WvW.

Yeah, I don’t know why they’d do such a thing!