Guild Wars 2

I don’t think there’s a single item they could give for the birthday gift that would be universally useful to EVERYONE.

I mean, it’d have to be a brand new item, because per the argument in this thread there’s going to be at least a handful of players who have maxed any existing item they could pick. Free Black Lion weapon? Someone out there has them all. Free Legendary? Someone has ’em all. Free mini-pet of your choice? Someone has ’em all.

But even for new items, not everything is going to be useful to every player. An outfit? Some players hate outfits. An armor set? Someone’s not going to like the way it looks. Exclusive new dye? Some don’t care about new dyes or aren’t going to like the color. Exclusive weapon? Not all professions can use all weapons. Exclusive full weapon set to avoid the previous issue? People will complain they can only get 1 and not the full set (unless they go crazy and give the entire set out). Exclusive mini? We’ve seen how THAT one goes. Boost-based item like the Birthday Blaster? Plenty of people aren’t going to bother with it.

kurfu.5623:

Just a flesh wound.3589:

The price reduction in gems comes from being able to buy them with the gold the game hands you just for playing. Farm up some gold and get free gems. Can’t get much cheaper than free.

If you have to farm for something, it’s not “free.”

That’s not how “free” works.

And I’m talking about real money.

If you were go in a shop and play there and while playing there the shop hands you tokens you can use to buy items in the shop, do you say, “I had to play in this shop to get these tokens. That means the items aren’t free!”

Nope. You were in the game playing. You got in game tokens (gold) and you used them to get free stuff.

As long as the birthday gifts appeal to the majority of players, I don’t see any issues. Just because some players chose to max out their dyes, doesn’t mean it was unreasonable, or unfair, for Anet to include them as a gift.

Edit: To add onto what I said, let’s say the 4th birthday gift is a chest that let’s us choose any black lion weapon skin (account bound). It would be unfair for players not to be given that sort of gift because of the very very that had unlocked all of those skins.

Free stuff for just getting older. No complaints about anything with that.

Thelgar.7214:

Because asking for things you get in the game to be rewarding is bad and greedy and draws attacks or trolling statements like the one I quoted above. Happy Birthday, here’s 40 silver. Happy Birthday, here’s 74 gold. Same thing…

Exactly , asking for birthday gifts its very improper.
I love birthday gifts , but rather not demand any from anyone . Surprise is the best !!

Neural.1824:

Crimson Clouds.4853:

-DO make them tradeable. The people who have already unlocked the dyes and investors will complain that the market has crashed because suddenly they’re abundant and tradeable…

Um.. boohoo? That’s the risk/reward of the market. Just because someone speculated on dyes and they are now worth thousands of gold in profit to them, does not mean they have a right to that profit.

Your argument works the other way as well. You decided to buy all the dyes, that’s therefore the risk you took. Could you have predicted Anet making those dye packs a Birthday reward? No. Neither would dye traders be able to predict those dyes becoming unbound and tradeable.

Your argument is therefore moot.

Castmaster.2167:

was kicked from raid cause i was only one standing near glenna when commander said everyone stack on boss and everyone was out of range and glenna was getting debuff.
wonder if it is reportable cause commander wouldnt listen.

Glenna cannot die because of debuff at this stage of the encounter. Only boss (if someone like you stacking on top of her) and warg able to kill her. You got kicked because of lack of knowledge. Kicking people without warning in general its not nice but joining hard content without having idea what to do.. Its bad behavior as well.

“cause seekers still spawn at last fight” This is impossible.

A disagreement over mechanics resulting in a raid kick is not a reportable incident – unless abuse was involved it does not break any ToS. Yes, it’s annoying or frustrating, but all that will be gained is a ticket bogging down Support’s time, which is highly unlikely to lead anywhere and you wont ever find out the result anyway.

Better to take the high ground and just move on and forget about the other player.

Report if it makes you feel better. Be aware: you will not be privy to any action, nor inaction, on the account.

Good luck.

Castmaster.2167:

however is kicking someone right before the boss is dead reportable.
i belive it should be

If it means that much to you, you can try. But frankly, if I were you, I’d just get over it. I mean really, you’ve waisted another 20 minute at least being upset about it and writing on the forums. 20 minutes is simply not worth all that work, effort and bad feeling, now is it?
Grab another 20 minutes, and do the boss again with other people. Enjoy it, have fun, and forget the jerks who kicked you. just block those you didn’t enjoy playing with and move on.
That’s what I’d do anyway

Castmaster.2167:

what should i have stacked on boss and let glenna die? it would of be a waste of 20 minutes. still it was a waste of 20 mins for me cause i was kicked

People insulting you and being rude towards you, is reportable. People being bad at what they’re doing or not knowing the mechanics, is not reportable.
In addition, and I’m sorry to break this to you, but If you did whatever you wanted in a raid, instead of doing what your commander told you to do, regardless of mechanics, you did more wrong than any of them.

Castmaster.2167:

they were too far away and glenna was starting to get stacks from not having anyone near her. he wouldn’t listen when i said that she was going to die so i went and stood near her. cause seekers still spawn at last fight.cause he told everyone too stack on boss at door so they could kill warg

That part is not reportable though…

No. why would you think this is reportable behavior?

Gaile Gray.6029:

anninke.7469:

Nightmare.1234:

Thiers a number you can call for dealing with ectoplasmic aperitions like these.

Can we get a proton pack rifle skin with backpiece and a jumpsuit outfit in the gem store please just incase this issue escalates. Oh also hope this all ties into the halloween patch in someway so we get new halloween content this year

And remember, don’t cross the streams.

I did that, and there are few things I regret moa.

I had WAY to much fun with my guildy yesterday.

She has more AP then me and its a competition for me to try to get higher then her and beat her so were always going back and forth. Anyways….told her I could help her get some more AP in Bloodstone Fen…..took her to buy the “Ride the Ley Line” ability and then took her to a ley line and just stood there and told her to use it in the ley line. What followed was one of the best trolls I have ever done, I both helped and messed with her so bad. the guild chat lite up after that (in a fun way of course)

Donari.5237:

Gaile Gray.6029:

I did that, and there are few things I regret moa.

Oh, you want to start that sort of thing up? When will you learn to let things ley?

This thread is going to the birds.

Gaile Gray.6029:

I did that, and there are few things I regret moa.

Oh, you want to start that sort of thing up? When will you learn to let things ley?

Saw it in the water in Orr yesterday. Just standing there looking at me. I’ve seen it many times now in different areas. The “scream”..I was mining bloodstone crystals and landed on the very edge of an island to get one, a large Norn did the same. We stood there for a second after mining the node and both screamed at the same time. Tiny Asura scream, large Norn scream…and then laughed at each other and flew off. So it is pretty odd, entertaining, disconcerting but most of all, fun. edit to mention the other part…I asked him…“did you scream?” he said yes, he said “did you scream?” I said yes…another person that just landed said “ice cream” after seeing our conversation, and then flew off.

anninke.7469:

Nightmare.1234:

Thiers a number you can call for dealing with ectoplasmic aperitions like these.

Can we get a proton pack rifle skin with backpiece and a jumpsuit outfit in the gem store please just incase this issue escalates. Oh also hope this all ties into the halloween patch in someway so we get new halloween content this year

And remember, don’t cross the streams.

Also if a human god returns and asks you if your a god, type /yes. We are not having a giant marshmallow man roaming tyria.

Gaile Gray.6029:

That way seems to lead to some sort of bloodstone madness, right?

Leela: I’m afraid Fry is suffering from ocean madness.
Fry: Every time something good happens to me you say it’s some kind of madness. Or I’m drunk. Or I ate too much candy. Well I saw a real mermaid. And I wish for once my friends would have decency and kindness to believe me.
Leela: [whispers] Ocean madness.
[Fry storms out]
Professor Hubert Farnsworth: He may have ocean madness, but that’s no excuse for ocean rudeness.

leftyboy.9358:

I don’t really care if I get trolled on this.

Almost one year in on HoT. We were given mentor tags. We were givien expanded comm abilities. Still it’s like pulling teeth to get folks to even apple on events or give any kind of guidance.

It just seems crazy to me. Why wouldn’t U want to give back on experiece and knowledge u’ve gained to help the next generation come in , stay exited, and help those after them?

I’ve tried for almost an entire year to at least get folk to put up those mentor’s on events while they’re active, to ask people to point out wp’s of current objective: to show map is active and to show people where things are happening currently, to no avail.

Idk if people are just scared to mentor , or just like forget u I can’t spend a second to help anyone, I got another chest to open?

It’s just seems crazy to me. With the tools anet has given us to take on some kind of role in leading and 95% of folks just look for a comm or say screw it.

tdlr: why not help someone outside yourself. Just takes a few seconds in many instances, and you help everyone including yourself???

greed is simpler for most people and the best thing you can be greedy with is your time.

You cannot make people be nice and helpful by berating them. Believe me I have tried. I have tried in ways you will never know and I promise you never want to find out. In ways that will jar you from your sleep on starless nights…

You simply cannot make most people do anything with this tactic. However you could alter your methodology.

Why not use greed against them rather than be exploited by it and offer them something for their time. After all it is their time and not your time, with which they are free to do as they please.

leftyboy.9358:

I don’t really care if I get trolled on this.

Almost one year in on HoT. We were given mentor tags. We were givien expanded comm abilities. Still it’s like pulling teeth to get folks to even apple on events or give any kind of guidance.

It just seems crazy to me. Why wouldn’t U want to give back on experiece and knowledge u’ve gained to help the next generation come in , stay exited, and help those after them?

I’ve tried for almost an entire year to at least get folk to put up those mentor’s on events while they’re active, to ask people to point out wp’s of current objective: to show map is active and to show people where things are happening currently, to no avail.

Idk if people are just scared to mentor , or just like forget u I can’t spend a second to help anyone, I got another chest to open?

It’s just seems crazy to me. With the tools anet has given us to take on some kind of role in leading and 95% of folks just look for a comm or say screw it.

tdlr: why not help someone outside yourself. Just takes a few seconds in many instances, and you help everyone including yourself???

Im a 4 year vet with HOT so /mentor and Commanders Tag. While I agree that Vets should help, especially if its being called out in map chat I dont think it should be expected every time we log in. Sometimes I log in and help out and lead and sometimes I just like to let someone else do it.

Different people use their commanders tags for different reasons. I know in guilds I have been in they do anyways. Just because you see a commander running in a map doesnt mean they are there for the same reasons you are. If you need more help use the internet to google the guides and walkthroughs of the event you are doing and sorry … stop looking for someone to hold our hand

Thank the idiots of snobbed commanders with ego problems, who have the opinion, that nobody other than them “may lead” people and that people with apples are “no real commanders” …

These kind of people are the reason, why lesser and lesser people activate their apples to help out, because mentors have enough of it from these pitiful people to be badmouthed, only because they feel themself beein cut on their kittens that someone else who hasn’t payed several hundreds of gold for a stupid pixel icon can lead many people better then them…

Whenever I activate my apple (because I like to lead for example alot Auric Basin’s Meta, because of its kind of Mission Flair it gives to coordinate 4 Squads at the same time, I always hear at least 1 or 2 people in Map Chat every few runs complaining about, that there are too many “apples” everywhere.
Good, this impression has become better over time, the idiots became lesser to more of them moved either on, or became inactive ect. but the “damage” that they and their idiotic childish behaviour thad showed in the early days of the release of HoT is still there in the heads of many helpful mentor players, because these players want to have just fun and help others, not get ****ed off by other people just only because they have not the right icon over their heads in their eyes

In the end, both modes casn be used in exactly the same way – to draw attention from many other people to brign them to follow you around, because they can see exactly where you are and where you are moving towards too on the minimap, just with the difference that mentors have not the dsame access to commander tools to lead people, which is a reason why people think mentors are inferior and thus its “more likely” that leadership under a mentor will fail, because they can#t command others in a squad as effectively as like a commander could do….

Thats the kind if impression I got several times by now by the kind of logic with that people argumentate against mentors…
I suggested in the past, that ANet should improve the Mentor System through the Masteries..theres still alot of more potential behind the Mastery System with that the Mentror System could get improved I think.

Mentoring isn’t something, that everybody should do, its somethign that only people should do, that are willing to help others, that have the neccessary grade of tolerance, that everyonre has to start once at somethign as like you did in the past too and were happy about it, if someone helped you out at something that was already more progressed than you at that time and could show you things and explain you thign,s that were new for you…

And god darn it, at the end it’s freaking regardless, how the icon over the head of somebody looks like, it just counts only that you had fun together.

Thats sadly something, that stil alot of people have to learn in their lives, but the youth of today has sadly forgotten what it means to have patience, tolerance and empathy I must realize sadly in the last years more and more oftenly again – their mentality about gaming seems to be kind of totallly different compared to gamers that have grown up with video games in the 90 ties…

This “we want everything and that now” generation of players is it, which caused change, why you see in the game lesser and lesser mentoring players.
The ****storm that oftenly comes, when bigger events fail, whos fault was it that it failed? In 99,9% of all cases you hear the masses complaining about the leader first, especially when the leader was “just” a mentor with an apple

Sure, these kind of experiences are a matter of change from server to server and are everywhere different..where onn one server mentors get treated like helpful half gods, you will find also alot of servers for sure, where people treat them like dirt, because they are just “wannabe commanders”

Everything seen already…

People forget way too quickly, that they are playing a game here and that the pixels with that they play together are more, than just only some polygons in action, but that also some real people sit somewhere in the world behind these polygons, which is something that dsadly oftenly lets people forget also all their manners under the fake protection of anonymity.
However, different topic, but a little part of the original problem behind this topic why more and more people “refuse” to help…simply alot of helpful people have also lost the interest to help others due to the bad behavior of people ,when that help ends up in “no success”

ANyways, there are also out there alot of helpful people, without that they need to have any kind of icon, be it apple or smurf hat of any color.
You need to search only for them and not to be kitteno ask for help, if you need some.
Then its most likely just a matter of time, until you get someone or many who are willing to help, or a whisper ort more of peopel who ask how they can help you.

And then theres always still the LFG which can be of great success, if you need help at something.

I have no objection with someone providing a tag for silverwaste, i just think that it is really self explanatory. If you can be a Lemming(following the first Lemming), you can and will understand that map very fast:
1. The orange bar moves.
Oh, I was there when a fortress was liberated, and it moved? Maybe that is connected? If I am not sure, I look at it at the next fortress I liberate.
2. kitten in the ground.
Oh, there is kitten in the ground, and the map tells me that champions are set loose in the underground. Connection.
3. Keys, shovels and chests.
Oh, I have a shovel with two skills. One is the shovel itself, the other a searchlight. Not that complicated if you ask me.
4. Running, running, running.
Oh, everyone runs to the giant quest ring at the end of the map. Maybe I should too? Lane 1 is so self explaining that people go afk there.
5. Champ train.
See Lemming behavior.
6. Maze event.
See Nr. 5.

The only thing really needed in an explanatory way for SW is with legends and body parts, and the second one is a non tag thing.

AB is even more easy, there are directions where gates are attacked. If you know how a windrose works, you know how the meta event works. If you can follow an active example(aka a person shooting longbow 4 at the explsoves for example), you can soon storm any direction. And again, east is so easy that people go afk there too and the problem for them is to return to the map in time.

So in my humble opinion, you have to follow a HP train tag in a HoT map from the start because you will never figure out by yourself how to reach it when you try to catch up in the middle and you don´t know how to reach it. In such an instance, it is really needed and the commander needs to know his stuff.

Edit: H O L E is censored, really?

I don’t find the OP’s issues all that often, but there is however, too much tagging and not enough communication about why they are tagged and not enough responses to questions asked by players on maps where there are tags. It infuriates me.

For me, its this abuse of tags that annoys me most. When I purchased my commander tag, I did so because I wanted to be useful, help people and have it there for real reasons. Nothing annoys me more than tags and now apples who are all over a map not speaking, not guiding, not doing a single thing. There’s an unwritten social moral code one should follow when tagging up in my opinion and there are too many abusers of this code. For example:

1) When you tag, you are responsible for answering queries, reliable and proper communication. Explain fully (no matter what) mechanics, ways to undertake the event you’re tagging for. Where there are events that require organised groups one should be fully coordinated with the other tags with the same level of communication.
2) If you arrive on a map and there is an apple or tag already there and the event only requires one tag, please don’t be an idiot and tag up as well. This undermines the person who already tagged up, steps on toes and is quite rude. No one is interested that you have a tag, it’s not a fashion statement, people just want proper coordination and communication to achieve the events’ goals.
3) If there is a tag already up and they are not communicating, you should give them ample opportunity to respond, perhaps send them a whisper and say that you are going to take over commanding if they don’t reply. Then tag up if necessary.
4) Tags for GMs shouldn’t interfere with other event tags. Make it clear on the map that’s what you’re doing if there are other events going on.

I know some of you will laugh at this and some of it probably sounds really snooty and too much for such a mechanic, but there is a social moral code that most commander tag holders abide by and there should be a way of reporting troll tags. There is nothing more frustrating when a big map meta event is corrupted and confused by too many tags. Squads have helped a lot with this, because people will simply join the squad of the commander(s) who are using their tag appropriately and use squad chat to discuss and understand the event.

At the same time, it is highly irritating when someone tags in an area such as Dry Top and travels around the map like a flea, not providing waypoints in chat, and literally trolling and abusing the symbol over their head for what? Is it funny to them? I don’t understand.

The sign of a good commander is when you are followed and whispered often “are you tagging for x, y and z? Can I join you?” I am thankful I follow such people and I am proud to be one of those who is also followed. There is nothing more satisfying (to me) than actually helping, coordinating and organising a large event to successful completion.

Finally, people need to comprehend that there are always new players to maps. What has been said about the Silverwastes above is complete nonsense. I will still tag and I will explain the mechanics. If people know the mechanics, they need not read chat, I am writing it for potential newer players and more often than not, a veteran learns a couple of things also. People forget all too easily that just because you’ve done something 10 or more times, doesn’t mean everyone there has.

Let’s establish one thing straight up: The worst component of any MMO is the players.

You have people with commander tags raging out on people with mentor tags, being abusive, ignorant, hateful. That’s one reason why people won’t function as mentors.

You have new players who absolutely refuse to learn about the game on their own and want everything explained to them as they do it. That’s completely unacceptable. There’s a massive wiki. Use it and inform yourselves first. Mentors shouldn’t be there to explain basic things. They should be there to explain subtleties, quirks, strategies – things that come with experience.

You have players, veterans and new alike, who absolutely, 100% refuse to listen, cooperate, or function in any way in a group capacity. The solo jerks, the lone wolves, the jaded, stupid, hateful, ignorant and selfish players who shouldn’t be allowed to play an MMO because they have no regard for anyone else’s play experience.

Here’s the bottom line. It’s a multiplayer game. You need to have some semblance of social skills to play in order for the game to be enjoyable, and more often than not, players lack even basic social skills.

Honestly, even if I had a commander tag I wouldn’t bother using it, because whether I gave orders, cajoled, kissed kitten or gave out gold, people just won’t listen or do what’s necessary. Things get done in spite of players, not because of them.

When Charged Quartz first came out, I think the one-per-day mechanic was acceptable, because it was balanced in relation to what Charged Quartz was required for: Celestial gear, and only Celestial gear.

However, now Quartz is used obsessively in a lot of crafting recipes and Guild Halls, I feel the time gate needs removing, or we should be able to make multiple Charged Quartz per day. 3 to 5 perhaps.

DeceiverX.8361

they’ve adapted to be cute, cuddly, and loyal friends, with all their shortcomings handled by more capable species.

No they have NOT. They’ve been bred by humans to be worthless as anything other than human toys. They did not do this as a survival mechanism.

Well, Darwin’s thing of “survival of the fittest” actually indicates more than just adaptability. The “fittest” as described is who can give the most groin-kerpow and make mucho niños.

So out of the quaggans that are alive, just assume they’re really good in the sack. Or pond. Or wherever quaggans do it.

Sir Alric.5078:

Quaggans are funny and cute. Let’s kill the Krait instead. Nobody likes kraits, they are ugly, evil, and annoying as hell.

Actually, I like krait. They kill Quaggans. Quaggans are like a race of fat Jar-Jar Binks’, but even worse.

Lets not kill them all off. I prefer they’re availability for various menu items for the foreseeable future.

Save a salad, eat a quaggan.