Guild Wars 2

These kind of topics always bring a single thing to mind for me.

Because that is how Ranger’s pets work, and intruding on that leads to homogenization between the professions. If they just fixed AI and made the system slightly better, that’s all we really need on the control side of things.

Well, I finally beat Liadri.

After more than 200 tries, I finally beat her. Yeps, you read that right – 200 tries. I tried different builds, different classes, but I eventually got her on my thief.

I think 200 tries gives me something of a special perspective on her, so I wanted to post some suggestions and thoughts about Liadri and the Gaunlet.

First, where’s the lore? A boss this mean needs more backstory. I’d actually like to see all the Gaunlet bosses in the Living Story.

I like this kind of fight. It’s not an easy fight, in my opinion, but it can be learned. I had a real feeling of accomplishment at the end of it. Thanks for that, ArenaNet.

However, there are a number of issues with the fight. (I’ll try to keep this short. After 200 fights, I think I could write a dissertation on this.):

- The mechanism for picking up the orbs and tossing them is very clumsy, so it feels a bit gimmicky, since it seems specifically designed to get you killed.

- Some arenas are better than others. This can be a serious disadvantage. In one arena, for instance, the second swirling pool spawns right against the wall.

- The Gaunlet needs its own instance away from the Boss Blitz. Lag kills. One arena gets danger circles from one of the Blitz bosses. Also, in some cases you might tab target to an enemy below the arena (Much less of an issue once you learn to target Liadri at the beginning of the fight.).

- Even with Free Camera, the camera still will zoom on you if you’re against the wall and the camera is positioned behind you.

While all classes seem to be able to do this fight, I would say it does seem to favor warriors and maybe guardians. I had to add toughness to get through this. How ’bout a fight that seems to favor clothies, for once?

Also, I think this fight stressed the limits of my current system. I have a 3 year old rig. It was better than average when I bought it, but it’s on the low end, at best, now. My crappy DSL doesn’t help either.

In this fight, timing is critical, especially in phase one. You’ll realize soon enough if you have skill lag or equipment lag. You’ll know if you have a crappy net connection or your frame rate sucks or your gear blows. My keyboard seems to blow. So, umm, thank you, ArenaNet for making me realize my rig sucks, I guess.

Thanks for the mini. It’s awesome. I’m still a bit on the fence about this, though. It’s great to have a fight that you can learn and tests the limits of your skill, but I spent the last month working SOLO on this fight. Not exactly in the spirit of MMOs. It seems a bit off to award such a special mini when there’s nothing equivalent in the MMO parts of the game. Is there a special mini for PvP teams? A special mini of crack dungeon crews?

Finally, thanks for making such an awesome game, ArenaNet.

I watched the videos myself. They’re not as bad as many people make them out to be. They provide a decent baseline comparison.

In part, Nemesis’ videos aren’t really made for the super elite, premade groups, but for the average or lone player. Because of this, the priorities are different, and what many people criticize his builds for in structure play are actually assets in unstructured play. The l33t hate him for this, but his builds and tactics are far superior to what the random pug runs.

That said, I hear the whole “necros have low DPS” thing all the time. Not on the forums, no, but in map and on the dungeons, people think warriors have maximum damage, and guards/eles are permitted only because of their utility. This leaves many classes (ranger, necro, engineer, thief, mesmer) on the chopping block as far as teams go. Players still can’t get past the idea that no, no class was designed to not do damage.

Creative. Full Berserker, never heard of it before. Is this a common build people use?
I’m pretty sure it is.

I think people need to stop comparing other professions to Warrior, or for that matter, being so concerned with whether or not they’re doing the ABSOLUTE POSITIVE SUPER BEST DPS EVER. If it gets the job done it gets the job done, you don’t need to be freaking superman. This whole concept does not impress me at all. It just shows me how insecure the community is.

Rauderi.8706:

Might be better to take this one to the Living Story forum.

But, in support I must say I’ve done gold runs on my 20-became-80 Mesmer. I threw everything I had at the boss until it came time to slow down, then resumed on burn command. No “11111spam” here, and I stayed upright longer than most on the boss, so I obviously contributed.

I’m right with you. When TTS does an organized run and asks the up-levels to go middle, I do as asked. I cooperate. But when you get people that start harassing others for being there, I get irritated.

Might be better to take this one to the Living Story forum.

But, in support I must say I’ve done gold runs on my 20-became-80 Mesmer. I threw everything I had at the boss until it came time to slow down, then resumed on burn command. No “11111spam” here, and I stayed upright longer than most on the boss, so I obviously contributed.

I am so tired of hearing people complain, whine, berate, insult, try to command/demand up-levels to leave the Boss Blitz.

We have just as much right to be there as YOU do.

If ANet didn’t want anyone under 80 to participate, they would not have made it so we could get in and get up-leveled.

Please take your complaints to ANet and stop being kitten-pikes to other players.

Now if they are not cooperating in Gold Runs, I can understand you being upset and blacklisting or wanting them to leave. But otherwise, please just stop!

Raponi.7219:

people organize gold runs with 80’s to farm the event as fast as possible to earn the most money/tokens/karma etc. they arent organizing the runs to level your uplevel. an uplevel is far less effective than any level 80, and you are taking advantage of every level 80 in that instance.

don’t get me wrong, i bring up levels in BB to level as well, but i don’t have the audacity to complain about the people that don’t want me there – because i understand that i am slowing their runs down and diminishing their hard word.

Take it to ANet. I bring my 80 there plenty of times and if an up-level is there, doing what is needed, then it’s just fine with me.

You mean there were no victories, just like in the real world?

This isn’t a fairy tale, stuff doesn’t end well just because we happen to defeat an enemy.

There was this old test we used to use back in the days of City of Hero; it is called the “Pylon test”. Basically you pick the toughest and hard-hitting target, bring your best build and see who can kill it the fastest. There was a table of best time on the forums back then. It is a combination of survivability and raw dps: too squishy, you die too soon before making any significant contribution; too tanky, you won’t do enough damage either.

It is a rather reliable test; in that game at least (mind you, in that game you could scale up the levels of the trash mobs quite significantly. So a well balanced between survivability and dps was needed). Perhaps we could do something similar in here too. Bring the best setup of each profession and have them face a similar target and see who can finish it the fastest.

We could modify the test for the best aoe as well: simply drag a fix number of mobs and see which aoe-centric build finish them the fastest.

I guess I was one of those people selfishly taking up platform space simply to beat Liadri. How dare I? There were a few times through the gauntlet that I wished the arenas were instanced simply so I didn’t have people watching me, but then I started actively talking to people and made some friends. We had fun, even though we selfishly used the platform for purposes other than farming, and some farmers even joined in, waiting in the queue and talking with us, giving us tips and pointers, cheering us on. It was great.

Maybe next time around they can put a “private gauntlet ticket” in the gemstore to smooth the farmers’ feathers

Edit – Simple spelling error. Oops.

“Log in”

If you read instead of overreacting…

I think Arena Net should include a medium difficulty jumping puzzle in the future Elder Dragon fights like Mordremoth. Which means… there has to be a phase where we have to ride on the Elder Dragon before it flies, and while it is flying we have to climb it and get to its head/wings/weak spot to attack it. When an elder dragon is barrel-rolling (slow because of its mass) we have to climb its sides to avoid falling off to death.

What do you think? Personally, I think Arena Net should pick up on this. Most raid/boss fights in MMORPGs require you to look at the telegraphed attack on the ground – always, so why not add something new, right?

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Devata.6589:

Well those terrible players who have no idea how to properly play are doing just fine completing everything very easily and fast.

Anyway it’s the current system is obviously not bothering you but I do hope you understand where they are coming from. And not thats not just because they are all just bad players. However, if thats what you like to believe thats of course also fine.

“Very easily and fast”. Right.

They are coming from a game that they’re used to.

They want to make this game into the game they’re used to rather than play it for what it is. Even though there’s more players that would rather play GW2 for what it is than there are players who want to make it WoW 2.0 or whatever else variation on this theme they can come up with.

This happens in every game.

Some Call of Duty fans want to turn Battlefield into Call of Duty. There’s always going to be people that want to take an experience and make it more like what they want disregarding what others want.
It’s happened before and will happen again.

I wish it didn’t, but it does and will again.
Eventually they’ll move on.

I’m sure Necromancers hand-pick the freshest of bones and flesh to conjure their undead minions, so it shouldn’t smell too bad.

Charak.9761:

Champ bags don’t have precursors in them only unique exotics

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Hehe, i was taking a shot of my charr ranger when i noticed my mini Rytlock was kinda hugging my pet raven. I thought that was cute and wanted to share it with you.

Hope you can see the image ok, i had to brighten it quite a bit as they were in a dark spot.

It seems unlikely that there is or will be an endorsed way to bypass or disable the spam filter…because that would pretty well enable spammers to, well, spam.

How would you even implement such a workaround without ruining the filter’s function?

Everything you said is right .. but .. footsteps