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IGN: Chaplan
“Every man takes the limits of his own field of vision for the limits of the world.”
-Arthur Schopenhauer
“Every man takes the limits of his own field of vision for the limits of the world.”
-Arthur Schopenhauer
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So I’ve been playing for quite a while, and started getting to thinking, what ever happened to the Damage/Support/Control types? Currently Control is heavy, but usually tied to being a Bunker or an effective Damage dealer. Damage is absurdly high for certain builds (conditions being the worst). However the game doesn’t seem to fill the Support section well. Unless their definition of Support is Bunkers that just troll people and are good at running circles on a little circle and tosses a few knockbacks here and there. (In which case the rest that I say is meaningless, but I hope that’s not the support they mean.)
A few key points I wanted to point out are:
- There is no three way building, its Bunker or Burst (B&B duo)
- Healing power scales worse than damage plus each heal has a long cooldown, so essentially Healing/support naturally doesn’t have a fit right now, its a poorly weighted stat (granted HP+Toughness on a few certain builds can be hard to kill, but generally that’s because those builds also have protection/stability or high evasion too, so be careful to look at the whole package before you say I’m wrong.)
- Support is such a small portion of what any build can do, most are still either Burst or Bunk with the ability to affect allies/enemies in some RELATIVELY small way.
- The most controversial; people actually kind of want to heal… This game has a good way to allow that! It truly does!
Now, the reason I say all of that is I started playing a support “healer” warrior recently, while its not QUITE there yet, it got me thinking… (Build is Mace/Shield+Sword/Warhon 0/0/25/30/15 shout healer) What if healing and support actually became a real thing? Now, I don’t want GW2 to have immortal target ally and press/spam a heal button. No, absolutely not. BUT! What if a single tree for some, if not all, classes had a very defined support tree that gave benefits to healing and boons and the traits gave healing and buffing aspects to normal abilities. Especially with the more defined traits coming along I could REALLY see this working!
Essentially supports could be AOE/Combat healers that still focus on being right there in the fight and doing damage, but they’d obviously do less (like bunkers do) but with a bit less personal defense and more group-wide benefits and their main goal is to actually heal and support their team. (Yes guardians can already somewhat do this, but it could be a lot better if you ask me.)
- Minor traits in “Support trees” would build the base of healing while attacking. These would not be weapon specific, but say auto attack also heals for a portion of weapon damage, but scales with healing power, which heals nearby allies. (Low base, high HP scaling, so its less effective for DPS roles to pick it up and expect it to be highly potent for them.)
- Majors would add supporting and more specific effects.
Examples:
Necromancer Marks now being able to heal for a small amount and applying defensive boons.
Move Vigorous shouts and the banner heal to adept 25 point (merged), Having banners periodically aoe spurt hp, shouts work how they do now, and the new 30 points be that Shouts and Banners healing give regen as well and shouts remove a condition. (Shouts would give like a 5-8 second regen while spurt heals from banners would give a 1-2 second regen.)
And this idea could follow through several characters. Thieves could be poison healers with leeching poisons.
Its just a thought I wanted to throw out because I had high hopes for being a real “support”, and healing doesn’t have to go away just because click and heal does. It still has a place, and I think it would be wonderful and fun.
Try not to be too critical, I know not everyone likes healers, but I think this game has a good groundwork considering what I’m proposing already exists (shout healers), just make it a little… more of a thing for those who enjoy that gameplay. I think it’d be fun.
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Elysaurus | Warrior | [LOL] | League of the Legendary | Gandara (EU)
“Dear ANet, nerf Paper, Scissors is fine. Sincerely, Rock”
Elysaurus | Warrior | [LOL] | League of the Legendary | Gandara (EU)
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“Every man takes the limits of his own field of vision for the limits of the world.”
-Arthur Schopenhauer
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-Arthur Schopenhauer
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I originally made this post in the MLG Denial thread but recently felt that it need to be its own thread
Kline.9561, a lot of the tips/suggestions you make in your post are things that are big focuses for us. The good news is that some of that work is spread out over several different teams, so while it might take a while to develop, we have a lot of great features coming to help with barrier to entry, etc.
As for monetization, that’s a bit more difficult considering we already give a lot of the things that can be monetized away as we don’t want to have a huge barrier to entry in PvP. If you have suggestions for stuff like that, feel free to share!
okay here’s a list of things that you can monetize on for spvP.
1. Video Channels. this is a huge one, teaching players about skills classes and game modes through visual observation is a great way to teach players, all about SPVP. games like League of Legends and dota 2 have quick 5 second videos directly in there video game, straight from YouTube, these quick video showcase the abilities of every hero in their game.
so make a youtube channel completely dedicated 2 SPVP that new players can directly connect to from in game. that showcases the strength and weaknesses of each class. as well as helpful tips on how to play the game.
2. Formatting Hot Join. to prepare new players for competitive formats such as tournaments. meaning that it’s time to set hot join maps at 5 vs 5 games, so as to not confuse and frustrate new players coming into tournaments from hot joins. 16 player matches are wildly different from 10 player matches, and if the community wants 16 player matches that is what custome arena is for.
3. Setting Team Que at Higher Incentives and priorities than solo queue and hot joins. this will help form teams and a stronger community, making people coordinate together to achieve goals.
4. Templates. I personally believe that this is an option that should be sold in the cash shop. this could generate great revenue for both SPVP and PvE. attach templates to the PvP lockers to keep players from switching build mid game or before it starts.
5. Ziashen Keys. simply put make it happen.
6. Glory Boosters. when you change the reward system make glory actually worth something. there’s not enough glory dumps in the game to justify spending any of it. So make glory boosters something people want to buy on the cash shop. rather than passing them out so freely.
7. this of late is a pretty controversial topic. but try attaching a Guild verses Guild Mode into Custom Arenas to give the community more incentive to buy custom arenas.
8. Start Selling Tickets so that players can watch tournament games in game. and compendiums that support their favorite teams.
9. Another way of helping new players is to give Short Cut Scenes of how to play spvp gamemodes when they first enter SPVP. or have the living story team make a short Interactive event, that has a players entering spvp for the first time playing a match with npc’s.
10. make rewards give the player a Feeling of Satisfactory and Accomplishment. presenting a cool reward or item after a match with flashy presentation. is a good way to start. encouraging the player to achieve more rewards.
11. Streams, and replay. new players learning from top tier players, via watching streams and replays. this is an amazing tool to help every player improve their game. coming up with an in game system, that allows players to pull up old replays and save them to their computer. or watch live games. this doesn’t need to be a system tied into hot joints, it needs to be its own thing. there needs to be an NPC in the mist that pulls up all the information players need, to watch live games and replays.(give an option for players to save a replay after a match ends, so they can learn from their mistakes or the enemy team).
I will continue to add to this post when I think of new ideas or concepts
I greatly encourage the community to add to the list with there own ideas on how to make spvp a bigger priority for Anet as a company.
also I understand the current state of the game and the resentment a lot of players feel towards it.
but please do not derail or entice Arguments and refrain from Hyperbole because it does not help the devs or healthy discussion.
thank you.
And before says my build doesn’t work, when Ele’s get nerfed it will be -Schwahrheit
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pre-ordered HOT at this point,
save yourself the money and don’t bother.
pre-ordered HOT at this point,
save yourself the money and don’t bother.