Guild Wars 2

Xavi.6591:

Yeah, I’m re-rolling Elder Scrolls Online.

I am with you – after 8 months of playing Mesmer ANet has thankfully given me a reason to switch off now.
Its unbelievable that one trait move (that of Illusionist’s Celerity) can so thoroughly kill a class.
I took my ‘old’ build to PvP after the patch.
I stood around utterly shocked – felt like I was playing in slow motion up to my arm pits in mud – playing mesmer was for me always a case of thinking and acting fast. Never letting your opponent know where you are, hitting them when they’re not expecting it. I am not into conditions or shattering – my illusions are my allies, my smoke screen, my weapons.
All my strategy and general play style are now rubbish – something perfected over the last couple of months.
Hey ANet if this is your idea of making GW fun and balancing a class then I am out. I have no interest in re-rolling another class – too much time and effort vested in my mesmer.

DiogoSilva.7089:

Most professions were nerfed anyways. Out of the best professions in the game, only the guardian wasn’t.

Necros may be the new OP class.

Well, at least happened before me sinking a Bolt to my Mes. (few charged and T6 and runestones away)

and way too few thieves.

That’s what they want. Too many mesmers in PvP.

this means quit on mesmer good job arenanet game has now 1 destroyed class

There is no good reason to play phantasm over shatter anymore.

fadeaway.2807:

There is no good reason to play phantasm over shatter anymore.

The issue is that up until this point, all balancing and design has been based off of mesmers having a 20% additional cooldown on all illusion summoning skills. Think back to early levels when you weren’t able to place those 5 points in illusions. Many of your skills feel clunky and slow.

This trait has been absolutely baseline for very nearly every mesmer build in the game. Taking it away doesn’t promote build diversity—-it just nerfs any non-shatter build that can’t be heavily modified to take 25 points in illusions.

If the purpose for this change is to increase build diversity, then it’s the absolute worst idea imaginable. If, on the other hand, the devs really feel that all non-shatter builds need what equates to a 20% nerf…then that’s a different argument that needs to be had.

+1 to all this.

Kryshade.6075:

There is very little to no skill level involved because the AI does the work.

What work? Targetting? As opposed to other builds which involve manual skillshots? Not sure what you’re getting at. Phantasms are externalized DoTs that can be killed. The fact that they aim at enemies and attack is not much different from any other summon/pet and in principle not much different from players attacking. Players don’t need to aim either, no skill required there, if you have a rifle you click on the player and press 1-5. How is running around with ranger, selecting enemies then hitting 1-5 for constant high DPS different from phantasms?

7. Blinding Befuddlement-This put the nail in the coffin on confusion builds in general… Anet seemed to overlook how many builds relied on this… not everyone that took this trait was a glam nuker… Some ran scepter torch and signet of midnight so they could try to stack up the blinds/confusion super fast hoping the players would nuke themselves…. But no… they put an ICD on it cutting a confusion mesmers DPS in half also severely hampering their defense… This nerf needs reverted now… The 50% damage reduc in wvw was enough.

8. Signets… When ANET said they were going to improve the passive stats on signets they only did it for one of ours… Signet of Dom… Which people usually take for the active… What about Signet of inspiration (Double the amount of time said boons are applied?) Midnight (This is an actual stat Boon duration it is in our traits… but signet of midnight is still only 10%… why not 20%?)

9. Mantras-Even with the 1/2 second decrease on cast time for mantras they still have no place in tournaments every mantra a Mesmer charges is about 3s they are not in the fight… and that is 3s too long… Cast time needs greatly decreased and the bonuses from activation need looked at… As well as the GM traits… They are still… not worth taking

EDIT: #10 Deceptive evasion- In a previous patch ANET said that clones/pets/summons will no longer aggro on targets that have not agrroed on the master… This is not true for deceptive evasion for mesmers… And is very annoying for us.

That is what I can think of for now my fellow mesmers… I ask you to post more if you can think of it… As for a dev response… I am sure this like many other posts we have made regarding how much damage they are doing to this class are going to fall upon deaf ears.

jportell.2197:

2. Illusionary Elasticity Bounce Logic- This most recent patch introduced a bug with IE where the character closest to our intended target received the bounce that used to go right to us.. This means that the GS can give clones 12 stacks of might which pretty much puts the nail in the coffin for that weapon… It won’t even go to a friendly player if they are closer or an enemy… This is detremintal because the GS does more damage the further we are… So in order for us to receive the might we have to be closer than our #2 Clone which spawns in melee range and then cut our AA damage to 1/3 or we have to facepalm while our clone gets an absolutely useless 12 stacks of might… Bounce priority needs to be Enemy>Casting Player (ME)>Friendly Player>Enemy… Clones should only get it if absolutely nothing else is in range. I used to be able to stand behind 3 staff clones at 600 range and receive all their winds of chaos bounces… Now they get all mine with iElasticity. when we said we wanted this trait to work with illusions that isn’t what we meant

That doesn’t even depend on Ilusionary Elasticity, it affects all bouncing attacks with or without that trait. Imagine something like this happens when you’re in a real fight:

It could be worse, yellow mobs for example. In WvW. Yay.

jportell.2197:

EDIT: #10 Deceptive evasion- In a previous patch ANET said that clones/pets/summons will no longer aggro on targets that have not agrroed on the master… This is not true for deceptive evasion for mesmers… And is very annoying for us.

Not only do they aggro yellow mobs, they also attack critters and die.

Considering they also go for their current target when shattering and not the player’s target, it gets even more ridiculous. Which would normally be fine, it they didn’t always attack the closest target, including non-hostile (yet) ones…

11. Clones should have offhand weapons. They are not clones if they don’t look like you.

Fixed a bug with Dodge roll where it could get stuck in the queue and unintentionally execute after a stun or immobilize.

was posted on the May 14th patch notes, but I still get queue’d dodge rolls executing after I break out of stuns or immobilizes. Normally I wouldn’t complain too much but if I’m in the middle of trying to survive in WvW And channeling say, Renewed Focus or Shield stance only to break out of it with a dodge roll? Kind of annoying.

Listed in the Engineer forums.

So, if it’s an issue of finding the real one, everyone should learn to turn off everything but player nameplates, real mesmer always visible unless a clone is almost directly in the middle of your screen. Done.

There the secret is out!

I totally agree with you, OP… Chickens flapping around and pecking at the keys must have a very hard time with proper skill rotations, attunement swapping, etc. heck, it’s like a ten minute walk for a chicken to get from the keyboard to the mouse IF he doesn’t get distracted… The real issue here is that GW2 and the devices used to play it are all designed to be ergonomic for humanoids. Anet should acknowledge that their player base consists partly of chickens and other creatures of the avian variety.

Dhampyr.2104:

ExZee.8109:

Yeah that Cry of Frustration is totally unreliable since you can nullify it by simply running away. rolls eyes

I wonder how confusion nuke builds work so well, considering how “completely unreliable” confusion is.

Not sure if I’m fully understanding the tone of this post – seems sarcastic, though, so I’m going to go with that. :-)

Against a savvy opponent, all confusion does is control their actions for a period of time (not a bad thing, but definitely NOT killing them). A confusion nuke build works really well when you have a button-masher – against someone who understands confusion, all it does is lengthen the fight.

Yeah, against competent players, confusion makes them stop attacking for a few seconds, that’s all. The effect is somewhat similar to Moa Morph. They’ll run away and do a dodge roll or two, until the effect wears off, then back to business.

And no, confusion nuke builds don’t work well. Anyone who think different should go out there and try it. Works only if you’re fighting idiots, and even with the incredible amount of idiots running around in WvW, I wouldn’t call this “reliable”.

PS: I even saw some confusion mesmers (mostly with traited glamour fields) blow itself up after I send them a Cry of Frustration F2 shatter. They should’ve known better, but nooo …

With Empowered Illusions, my clones can crit for EIGHT DAMAGE! I am Mesmer, hear me roar.

Why is this being comapared to mesmer portal? Portal in no way allows you to cross gaps unless you have already crossed them, rtl in that sense is superior.

Nanoha.3892:

Why is this being comapared to mesmer portal? Portal in no way allows you to cross gaps unless you have already crossed them, rtl in that sense is superior.

Should be compared to Mesmer Blink which also doesn’t allow Mesmers to cross most gaps.

Alex.9268:

Catching noob elementalists? Easy. Catching a d/d ele of equal skill? technically impossible.

/thread

Catching noob elementalists? Easy. Catching a d/d ele of equal skill? technically impossible.

If those fragile phantasms are an important part of your survival and damage, and your opponents aren’t wailing on your phantasms, you ought to find some better opponents before calling something OP.

Lord Eldamari.8490:

C’mon guys it’s a thief you’re not support to see them coming. I personally hate playing against thieves but they do make tiptoe around WvW for sure which makes the game more exiting in my opinion.

Its exiting for you, but not for everyone else. I dont see how having an insta-kill class adds any excitement to the game. By that logic lets make Guardians immortal, and lets make necromancers rez themselves in 0.5 seconds, they are dead afterall, and lets make mesmers clones just as strong as the caster, that should add even more excitement!

No, it doesnt work that way.

ArenaNet, did anyone call for a buff to Ranger’s downed state? AoE daze interrupt (good damage, too), bleeds that scale off of normal stats while downed, and a self-revive was not good enough? No, it must be a guaranteed revive in order for ArenaNet to be pleased, apparently. After 8 seconds have passed and no stomp, a Ranger will 100% revive for sure. Pet’s revive used to heal for 400 HP per tick. Now it has tripled that after the unnecessary buff. It’s like Vengeance but better because the Ranger is actually alive at that point.

Ask yourself this, ArenaNet. What beats a Ranger in downed state? Say a Guardian and a Ranger both get downed at the same time. Who will win? The answer is: absolutely no one except maybe Elementalist, because they could possibly move away and revive themselves, too. However, even Elementalist’s downed state was deemed overpowered and confirmed to be nerfed in the future by devs.
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Fun fact: Rangers can use all of their F1-4 skills while downed! Yes, not only can they AoE daze interrupt, but they can fear you for 2 seconds while downed. This must be unintended, because no other class can use their F class mechanics while downed – it’s just the Ranger. And the pet skills disappear from the UI while you are downed, but the Ranger can still hit their F2 and fear you for 2 seconds.

Thoughts?

OGDeadHead.8326:

zone.1073:

After 8 seconds have passed and no stomp, a Ranger will 100% revive for sure.

Is this a joke?

In other words, if you don’t begin your stomping animation before 4 seconds have passed, you won’t be able to stomp the Ranger (8 seconds) and he will 100% successfully revive. It quite literally is like Vengeance but better because the Ranger is actually alive.

And an AoE 2 second daze interrupt.

And a bugged Wolf’s F2 fear for 2 seconds that can be used while downed.

Does anyone see the problem here?