Guild Wars 2

When I read the OP I was sure it was a Daecollo thread

Deamhan.9538:

Dear NSP and SBI,

We were hoping to actually have some competition. You two really needed to form an alliance. It seems to be the only way for us to be challenged.

Sincerely,
Darkhaven

I’m really new to the internet meme thing. Am I doing this right?

Well, there’s a difference:

Necro and Thief traits depend on effects applied to the player. This means that I can benefit from those traits on any enemy, once the conditions for them to work are met.

Unsuspecting Foe is supposed to reward you for landing a certain kind of skill, which is supposed to be hard to apply and easily avoidable.
And it works only on stunned targets. To make it work, I have to use it only on stunned targets, which will mostly be one. It won’t increase my cleave capabilities, in a game where AoE is consistent and much superior to single-target.

About the control+damage issue: hammer+mace/shield has high cc, but without consistent damage it would be extremely lacking, because it lacks mobility. In a game where almost any skill can be cast while moving, this might mean almost not being able to reach your target.

And… well, I played engi turret, and it pairs good survivability, cc and damage (in 1v1 fights on nodes), but low mobility.

Defektive’s build, IMHO, has good damage, but most of all has high mobility. Hammer mace/shield has higher damage but no mobility, thus making it less efficient.

So… it isn’t necessarily unbalanced.

I would still run CC, I’d just go glassier and pick up where I lost out on crit chance.

My team doesn’t care that I have +50% crit chance, they care if I can land a 4 second stun when they need it.

TheGuy.3568:

I think unsuspecting foe matches these traits in terms of what they do. All the traits greatly increase your critical hit chance provided you enter a state (stealth and death shroud) or your target enters a state (stunned). The issue is that both Deathly perception and Hidden Killer require a major investment in order to get access to this type of bonus. Unsuspecting foe on the other hand requires a small investment in order to gain its benefits.

When you compare it to the 2 other adept traits that increase crit chance the mismatch becomes more glaring. Precise Wrack adds a +10% chance to crit with 1 skill Mind Wrack. Side Strike grants a +7% chance to crit as long as you are flanking the target. Neither one of these skills compares to Unsuspecting Foe in terms of damage multiplication.

If you look at the traits that increase critical hit chance the rest are 10%-15% additions. Minor or major they are fount at the master level or higher.

IMHO an addition this big to critical hit chance should be found at the GM level.

First, all these others skills you’re comparing to are available with any weapon set, all the time – Mind Wrack, Death Shroud, Stealth. Every build, every weapon set, has access to those skills.

But Warriors only have access to stuns with just three weapons – Mace, Shield, Hammer – which is why UF is justified being in a lower tier.

Also, at a more meta level, counters are easy – stun break and permavigor – people just don’t like being forced to give up their OP builds to counter it, so they complain about it and try to get it nerfed instead.

Srsly, improvise, adapt, and overcome. If you’re actually a good player and not just being carried by an OP class meta, you can do this. If not, l2p.

You are still ignoring the fact that moving the trait any higher will not only make Hammer worthless but will make it a trait that never sees any use. Basically you’re not looking for it to be balanced but removed from the game and become another GM trait that nobody ever uses. Also, the build is NOWHERE near as good as Ele was back in the day, you don’t see a Warrior fighting 3 equally geared players and winning because it can continuously zoom in and out of the fight and wear down peoples heals. At best CC builds are good 1v1 and can do OK 2v1 only if one player is really bad and the other has low DPS. I still can’t match the survival of a Guardian when it comes to Zerg vs Zerg because they are constantly healing due to the # of people around them while they provide buffs.

You can talk about objectivity all you want but it isn’t objective in the least to propose effectively removing a trait from the game. Can you really see anyone putting 30 points into ARMS to get a trait that only works for weapons that don’t have conditions that deal damage? The trait only punishes glassy condition spammers that don’t bring stability or stun breaks…or even Protection. In fact Protection makes the damage almost laughably low. Saying stun locking is considered OP is just as ridiculous because it has tons of perfectly viable counters. Even recently I see that Necros are starting to bring traits and utilities to counter me. Engis Protection Injection can force a standoff where neither side can win unless one party messes up. Thieves and Mesmers have so many ways to avoid being locked down it isn’t even funny.

My Main is a ranger.

I dont regre’t that I made it my main. I love it and Always will! It took some time to learn how to make it “work” the best way for my play style, but now I have a strong, flexible and fun to play main character!

TehPwnerer.7215:

Why though, are we being forced to care about a human Queen for a month?

TehPwnerer.7215:

The point is that everybody is basically being forced to go and care about a race that not everybody cares about or plays.

TehPwnerer.7215:

Why is this being forced on everyone?

Someday I hope this forum learns what it actually means to be forced to do something, but my expectation is low.

TehPwnerer.7215:

Celestina.2894:

TehPwnerer.7215:

Celestina.2894:

TehPwnerer.7215:

Shiren.9532:

I found it ironic that the Living Story events that took place in Lion’s Arch, the racial diversity capital of Tyria, focused on Kasmeer, Marjory, Kiel and Mai – all human females.

There is a huge bias towards humans in GW2. Most players play them, most armour is designed for them (sucks to be a charr) and the story is now revolving around them. Hopefully soon we will see less of a focus on the humans and more integration of the other races. We still don’t have a sylvari or asuran protagonist in the Living Story.

To the one who said “anet can’t win with US people”, this post is for you.. It’s not that it’s one instance, it’s that in almost every living story update, the central focus has been a human female.

Funny, for about four months the two major characters focused on were a male norn and a female charr.

With the cut throat politics it was a male charr (who my opinion was more interesting) and a human female.

And between those two, we had a male Sylvari villain as the focus of the plot.

Once again, Anet can’t win with you people. You can be sure this same topic will appear when we eventually get a major focus on Sylvari for example and they’ll probably bring up Trahearne.

Yep. Completely ignore every point I’ve made and just throw in something I’ve already addressed and why it’s not the same as what we have now.

Those threats that revolved around the Molten Alliance had nothing to do with the Norn or Charr except for that those are the first of the major races to have been attacked by the new alliance.

The Flame and Frost was not a living story about Norn or Charr and if you think that then there’s not much else I can say because you clearly weren’t paying attention.

So the focus on saving Charr and Norn refugees and making sure they are not pushed further out of their own lands is not a focus on their race?

You have some rather strange…….opinions…..then.

Ok saving Charr and Norn and Grawl and other race refugees was not a focus on those races. It was a focus on a threat to Tyria and if they weren’t stopped it would be more than just the Charr and Norn that were being displaced, it would have eventually spread to Humans Asura and Sylvari as well.

You have some rather…. strange…. story comprehension……

Exactly, it would have been, but the focus was on the Charr and the Norn stopping it before it became that. And as Shiren pointed out above, Flame and Frost is also victim to being the first real living story. That doesn’t change the fact that it was focused on the Norn and Charr.

Even if you refuse to admit the Norn, you can not refuse to admit the Charr due to the Flame Legion because……..guess what? Charr

I find it hilarious that for months people were complaining that everything was to focused on Lion’s Arch ( the cultural melting pot of the game)………….and now we’re complaining about it being human focused.

Anet just can’t win with you people.

Ya dude please go QQ elsewhere. The trait has been like this since open beta and this is the 1st time I ever heard people cry over it. Learn to play use a stun breaker, learn to dodge, use stability. Are we seriouly getting upset becasue a warrior stunned somone and 100 bladed them, this is the least of your worries.

Honestly Commander’s Inspiration seems like it should be a stance, and BLS looks like it should be renamed something else and be a shout with a cast time in which you “absorb” the damage and shout it back. I vote Foos Ro Dah.

NSP, check the front of yo towers ya hear?

Charr.
Charr need no Gods.
Charr need no Magic.
Charriors.

Just look at it… deserves a nerf, just wait till he starts to use sigil of paralysation…

Sami.7923:

Im sorry but theres simply no love for this weapon. Every other GS weapon for other classes are awesome, many people use the GS as their main like guardian, war or mes. They all have powerful skills. We have swoop and maul as our best and they really arent that spectacular. Id much rather spawn some dude thats gonna fight for me and do INSANE damage, Id much rather do 100b that hits for 3 times the dmg of maul, and Id much rather spin around in huge AOE immbolizing my enemies. but no, I have to land mauls, mauls that take a good about of time to hit the ground and give me vuln. Nice vuln there hmm what do I follow that up with? Oh some weak gs 1 chain? Some weak swoop? Some non-existant dmg super short-range hilt bash? I guess ill stop for a second before I throw my sword at them. When I switch to gs they chain all the moves in 4 seconds and then for the next 6 I am are slowly swinging around doing pitful 400 dmgs and lucky to get some evades in while my opponent is enjoying the nice breeze I am providing.

1) You dont have to stop to throw your sword. They changed that last patch
2) GS has an evade every 3 hits, a knockback, 2 interrupts, and a block.
3) Provides opening strike to your pet. You can say OMG PET AI SUCKS, really, thats on you. You have the traits to increase its speed, abilities to do the same, and a plethora of abilities to slow enemies down to provide your pet the support it needs. You can control it as well.
4) “I use all the moves in 4 seconds” Youre doing it wrong. #5 is a counter, as is #4. You need to utilize them well with your endurance, lightning reflex timers to optimize this. in those 4s, youre never dodging or using other skills? Do you just lay your face across 12345 and hope for the best? This class is about finesse and timing. I can direct you to the warrior forums, if youd rather do that.

Poor little kitten, no one is yelling, I wager the caps key just got stuck on the guy’s keyboard. Tears do that to keys sometimes.

I reinvited varconi back into XOXO after he begged. Then made him pay up his overdue guild dues plus .998% late fee.

Only to re kick him out of the guild again to satisfy the forum.

Be gone! meanie sit spam guy. Our guild rep means the world to us.

35g? I could afford to be in that guild for 4.7 days

go back to your ragequit PvEing as your baddie thief friend said you were doing

dank.3680:

Themanbat.3206:

dank.3680:

Themanbat.3206:

Raven.9603:

Varconi.1804:

He invited me to group I left group he then wouldn’t stop sending /w so I was as mean as possible to make it clear I don’t give a kitten about his problems with having too many pug players and drama between commanders on his server and w/e else he was going to cry about.

you posted a screenshot of you calling one of the friendliest commanders on SBI a f**got and tried to make him out to be the problem. there really is no way to make it look like you are anything other than worthless at this point, nor are these types of responses helping your guild’s otherwise good image.

After receiving over 15 complaints a week on average from other servers, Varconi has been kicked from XOXO to protect our upstanding reputation. We apologize for any emotional trauma his actions in-game may have caused anyone.

Good riddens.. That guy always making me look bad..

riddance* was*

I’ll give ya the riddance, but not the ‘was’. – “That guy, always making me look bad.”

That punctuation.

That’s*

Raven.9603:

Varconi.1804:

He invited me to group I left group he then wouldn’t stop sending /w so I was as mean as possible to make it clear I don’t give a kitten about his problems with having too many pug players and drama between commanders on his server and w/e else he was going to cry about.

you posted a screenshot of you calling one of the friendliest commanders on SBI a f**got and tried to make him out to be the problem. there really is no way to make it look like you are anything other than worthless at this point, nor are these types of responses helping your guild’s otherwise good image.

After receiving over 15 complaints a week on average from other servers, Varconi has been kicked from XOXO to protect our upstanding reputation. We apologize for any emotional trauma his actions in-game may have caused anyone.

I heard a great one today. My norn yelled: “We won because of ME!!”

Setun.4368:

….or the floppy mess of a run Asura have.

heyyy i love my asuras floppy mess run

I want the third hit on hammer 1 to be a blast finisher. So. kitten . Bad! You won’t be able to blast fire fields before a fight as you need to hit something in order to go through the skill cycle. But it would make interesting synergy with fields whilst in combat.

1200 range onn back breaker is just too much. However a little increase would be good.

Hammer 4 Is the skill I always imagine being the hammer whirlwind equivalent of the great sword whirlwind, that would knock people back in its path. Be good for clearing out bridges or disabling a grouped up Zerg. I don’t think a scream would happen as it’s not part of using a hammer. These are weapon skills after all.

Hammer 5 needs to be AoE knockdown. I don’t understand why all of the hammer is AoE except this? It’s a long enough CD to not cause too much of an issue. However I can see the earth shaker and AoE 5 pinning down 5 people as a potential issue. However that just means people need to be spread out or be wary.

I would like to see stomp targetable. I know that’s nothing to do with the hammer but I just feel that would be a good move. I would also love a 15 Minor trait in tactics or something allow burst skills to not be effected by blind. People don’t really fear us getting adrenaline, which is a shame.

Wow..someone who wants to nerf warriors who are at the bottom of the food chain as they are..

Must be a bad thief..

Note to self..check his signature..

Please stop posting. Cry thread (thief/baddies thread) that way > > >

Thieves CAN have loads of stealth which means their trait can be used a lot more, necros have their thing no matter what, warriors have at most 7s ( I think) without sigils, and that’s over 3 different weapons and 2 skills are burst meaning you need to fill adrenaline twice to get their full duration. That, along with warrior’s often quite slow animations doesn’t add up to too much of an increase.

Bad thieves should be moved to the ‘carry more’ profession thread.

Hint: Thief thread.

Another nerf warrior QQ topic.

The comparison to hidden killer and the necro trait is really, really far off.