Guild Wars 2

So… your character faces an elder dragon in a battle of will where the stronger mind wins and you kick the dragon’s kitten (with some really cool comments that would fit any cheesy action-adventure movie)… and you still complain about not seeing some epic monstrosity?

Okay then.

If you notice, you see his mental image during the fight. The fat dragon is the avatar he has chosen to fight you with, or maybe even possibly the avatar that the PC and the two NPCs think him to be…a large ugly pathetic dragon who has no real power inside of his own mind.

What?! No Utility for the first boss?

Break bar mechanics?

- Flesh Golem charge – which if I remember correctly knocks about half of it down.
- Spectral Grasp – Pull
- Fears – Staff 5, DS/RS 3, Spectral Wall
- RS 5
- Chilled To The Bone

Epidemic copying condi’s to an add and then back to the boss. (Boss2/3)

Our DPS is actually pretty good – so I don’t know where you got that idea from. Besides for the Vale Guardian you only need 6k DPS – which you’d get if you just sat there doing sceptre AA, maybe press your utility skills if you’re bored?

We have leaps (RS 2) and shroud to absorb the Green AoE damage and get there quickly.

We have transfusion to teleport downed people to us to get a quick res. if they go down in one of the thirds that is active.

I guess we have Vampiric Presence too – which is nice.

If you’re guild is stuck in the past thinking that the necromancer is below useless, find other people to raid with. Every class is viable to complete raids, you don’t need the best of the best to complete it, so long as everyone is roughly competent with their class you can easily complete the first boss. Necro is not the weakest class when it comes to raids, and it brings its fair share of utilities. It can be used, it can also not be used. You could even take a thief and complete it. Not saying it would be optimal – but it doesn’t matter – you can still complete the content if everyone knows what they’re doing.

Look! These people used a Necro, and they completed it…. so what’s the problem?

https://www.reddit.com/r/Guildwars2/comments/3tsazq/na_necromancer_raid_builds_tankpowercondi/

We’re not as hopeless as you and your friends think and our dps is fairly close to what other classes can bring to the table.

To the argument against a full defense team cheese moding everything without a timer: so what? Its going to take them an incredibly longer time, and I cant imagine anyone doing it that way would be having much fun. In which way would it impact people on a large scale? Do you think it would replace the zerk meta in its “zerk or kick” mentality? Do you really think there would be enough players willing to take that much more time in a raid for that to happen?

I appreciate Axe+Focus as a means for generating LF, stripping boons at long range, chilling at long range, clearing blinds effectively, and being able to apply some pressure at range.

If you like it, you can make it work for you most likely. Don’t listen to gavyne’s world of absolutes.

Jeknar.6184:

We don’t care about legendaries… We want to have a decent WvW experience. They can remove all loot from WvW for all I care, if they find a way to make matchups more competitive and fun…

As long as server “A” can pay for a 40 strong golem zerg, “B” is at an unfair advantage.

Money can buy WvWvW. Those that deny it, abide by it.

You made a typo: instead of saying last, you said mag would be first.

I disagree with Healing Surge. I think it’s a very versatile heal which can be used both offensively and defensively, which is great.

Want a huge heal? Save your adrenaline.
Want to pump out more damage/stuns/burns/whatever? Sacrifice some healing to do that.

Bhawb.7408:

Almost every high tier Necromancer disagrees with you. We have awful bleed stacking, bad access to any other damage conditions except Fear, which has the most counters of any condition in the game, we have no stability, no unique support, we are the easiest to focus in a teamfight, have no cleave, only burst AoE (not particularly that strong either), and subpar defensive mechanics that actively counter each other.

About stacking bleed. Mark of Blood(2) + Mark of Evasion(2) + Sigil of Geomancy(3) + Enter DS(2) + Dark Path(3) + Grasping Dead(2) + Enfeebling Blood(2) + Blood is Power(2) + Transfer Self Condition from Blood is Power(2) + Signet of Spite(2) + Scepter AA(2) = 24
Ofc with Barbed Precision it will be more but there a lot of traitable/sigils/utility skills and if we ignore them we got 14 stacks. Plus it stacking too slow and we need to increase our bleed duration. Also we have slow cast time and enemy can avade some of these skills. Now someone can tell me how other classes stacking their bleed and how quickly.

Nothing beats a Perplexity Engineer reporting me twice for transfering his confusion back to him and breaking shield with Wail of Doom.

People are ignorant. And I like taking an advantage of it on Power Necro since July 26th

Roe.3679:

I used to have “dumb fire” thrown at me a good bit before it was nerfed. When I wasn’t running it. And sometimes when I wasn’t even playing condi.

Naturally. They don’t know what’s killing them. Ignorance leads to fear, fear leads to anger, etc.

Most people are bad and dislike being reminded of it. In this case, not facerolling you is considered part of this and can be safely ignored.

One can take a loss as a learning opportunity and get better. Or they can just cry. The later is what is known as “scrubs”.

That OP man, that OP.

What….?
Really?
Since when is dhuumfire the only way to go with a Necro? The nerf is not that big at all. It’s justified, in my personal opinion. Even better, you will be able to spread your lovely 6-second burn with Epidemic on-demand, as opposed to randomly, so you can plan to burn a target for 6 seconds, then spread with Epidemic. AoE burn? Seems pretty good to me.

Also: If they do buff our default mark size, like the leaked patch notes stated (if)… that’s a pretty significant BUFF. Additionally, if they rework some of the Death Magic traits, which apparently (hopefully) they will… that’s a BUFF.

If I were you, I’d wait for the actual patch to come out before making such assumptions. Runes are being reworked, and sigils will stack. This could actually be a significant buff. For those Necros that take on-crit effects like flame blast/bleeds/etc., you’ll be able to stack Sigils of Energy with your other sigils, which is basically like mini Vigor. In my eyes, that’s a pretty significant buff. Granted, it will apply to all other professions, but that’s beside the point.

Lastly, the Dhuumfire change (I’d call it a change, not really a nerf per se), only affect condi Necros, maybe hybrid, but not power Necros.

Julie Yann.5379:

ShadowNinja.1238:

Cause Healing Signet and ultra high stats. With full zerk u can get 3k armour 20k hp tell me thats not op.

lol, the highest you can get is 2800 armor with full zerk, 30 points in defense, toughness runes and Dolyak signet at which point the build is no longer zerk. use up your Dolyak Signet and you are down to 2700 armor, if your health drops below 90% you are now 2600 if Doly Signet is on CD. You would also need 20 points in Tactics to get 20 k health, even less zerk.

@OP People started crying OP when warriors because the anti condition meta. Now all those people playing condi-bunkers are crying cause their OP builds are getting destroyed by the rock to their scissors.

2800 armor? Wow, how glassy.

ShadowNinja.1238:

Cause Healing Signet and ultra high stats. With full zerk u can get 3k armour 20k hp tell me thats not op.

lol, the highest you can get is 2800 armor with full zerk, 30 points in defense, toughness runes and Dolyak signet at which point the build is no longer zerk. use up your Dolyak Signet and you are down to 2700 armor, if your health drops below 90% you are now 2600 if Doly Signet is on CD. You would also need 20 points in Tactics to get 20 k health, even less zerk.

@OP People started crying OP when warriors because the anti condition meta. Now all those people playing condi-bunkers are crying cause their OP builds are getting destroyed by the rock to their scissors.

ShadowNinja.1238:

Cause Healing Signet and ultra high stats. With full zerk u can get 3k armour 20k hp tell me thats not op.

U really need to get out more.
healing signet makes us “OP”?…really…guess the regeneration boon also makes people “OP” then.

Full zerker does not give u 3K armor….just saying
BTW…warrior stats has not changed since day 1 of this game…why is it a big deal now?

NoxInfernus.2361:

One Question Though: Where is all the waste material?

How do you think we’re being rewarded for this living story?

But you say extortion, I say “pirates”.

Well, ex-pirates, but you get my meaning.

Vol.7601:

So has anyone figured out who died? Anet said that one of the memorable characters died.

The guy asking where the outhouse was. The reason? He was in the outhouse when the city was attacked.

uhh I think deathshroud counts as the best oh crap button…
but yea overall good attitude keep it up. to do that avoid the forums :o

that was so 2013 ….

Much ignorance, very denial, so entertained

a t s e.9614:

Even without healing signet warrior is still the best class in the game . Clear 3 condis every 7 sec , decent condi damage without investing into it . No precision required because of UF+ perma fury , alot of CC , berserker stance is very strong , you can kill a necro\engi easely> zerker stance+ stability = dead necro\engi. Lyssa every 48 sec is insane aswell.

The only class that has a chance to beat warriors are thieves. The evade spam and massive damage can shut down a warrior but nothing else really .
The class has everything thats pretty much it .

As a main warr , 1,1k hours Id be happy if they deleted healing signet to make the class a bit less faceroll .

First of all, me, having over 100 hours on war in spvp i can clearly see you are talking kittens about you having 1,1k on it lol.

War has crap condi damage if not investing to it.
You mentioned 3 different builds as if it would be one build.
No one will stand and let you kill him. You can be invulnerable for few seconds to some sorts of damage, doesnt mean enemy wont use defensive skills in that time.
You dont have 3 condi cleanse every 7s unless you invest 30 points into the tree and manage to hit evey burst (things that prevent that – blinds, dodges, you being cced, enemy creating a gap)

Why dont we do it like this. Take 1 class and take its strongest points, compare it to nothing ( and mesh 3 different build together like u did to sound more extreme). For example -
OMG thief so op, has steal ( steal crapton of usefull skills), PERMA stealth, PERMA dodges, PERMA blinds, does 7k damage backstabs – no investment required
I have 1.1k hours on my main thief, it needs nerf

Mattidore.3482:

Love all this QQ about Warriors now that they’ve become viable in pvp. I’ve played warrior and only warrior since beta, you probably didn’t play warrior when we were just easy roflstomp prey for pretty much every class.

That’s what most people seem to want again. Because it’s balanced and all. Why learn to play when you can complain on the forums.