Guild Wars 2

Zoid.2568:

Shadow of Azrael.1205:

Mb AvA in ESO on a huge map with copy-pasted keeps will be nice, but i could barely make myself play through starting pve stuff for a day before i turned off this clunky crap which zenimax calls a game.

You’re a spoiled gamer.

So you think he has unrealistically high expectations because of the quantity of games he has played?

Zenimax is to blame for releasing a game that does not meet the usual high Bethesda standard. ESO is going to be seen as an utter disaster several months after release, mark my words.

Mad Queen Malafide.7512:

Braham is a bit flat as a character. Plus I don’t think he is convincing as a Norn (more like a big human). What happened to the Norn from GW1?

They got retconned when Arena Net took aboard new writers for Guild Wars 2. Braham is a fine example of the new writers at work in the Living Story.

Anyway to those that want him removed, if he was then we men have no representation in Destiny’s edge 2.0 any more!

I do not mind Marjory.

Kas on the other hand I am not a fan of, she called warriors stinky. While I (A warrior) was standing right next to her!

Kasmeer Meade: “Maybe we need a strong perfume like what I spray on a hankie when around…aromatic warriors.”

As for their relationship, that is a non-issue.

JGBarbarian.3579:

Jack.5012:

This is ultimately the comment that made me log in to respond to you, fighting for one cause because it affects you and not other causes because they don’t affect you does not make you a hypocrite or in any way wrong for doing so, I would argue hypocrisy would be if you fought for one cause and vehemently opposed similar causes, something I would argue you are doing in this thread by making it seem as though these men are somehow doing something wrong in not liking the skewed representation when you personally do not seem to like it when it occurs the other way around.

Just because you don’t fight actively for other causes regarding equality does not make your comments less valid or invalid and, all of these forms of inequality you listed clearly should not occur and it is a shame they do.

However, for example, just because a male over female inequality occurs and has occured for some time, does not make it right for the complete opposite to happen, that would still not be equality.

Agreed

Agreed.

ESO is no real competition, people will try it for a month then after they experience how truly bad it is they will go back to their MMO’s of choice.

Be good at the game or bad, people deserve to experience the game the way they want. The only issue I have is rewards depending on group effort rather than personal ability, this is where the source of the animosity between player skill levels reside.

The average player has no interest in getting better at the game, they just want to experience new content. Arena Net needs to re-learn how to address this, GW1 they had a hard mode and I see no reason that this mechanic could not be used to solve everyone’s various issues.

Arena Net never made those games nor have they anything to do with Guild Wars 2, so it is kinda irrelevant what happens with them.

I can not stand Quaggans.

I am fairly sure a french kiss was not animated, just a passionate one. Either way the kiss itself is a non-issue, the fact that the cutscene is not skippable is much more annoying, especially to achievement hunters.

Laurelinde.4395:

Why do some guys have so much trouble relating to women, real or fictional? We are people. It will not kill you or hurt you or diminish you to put yourselves in our shoes once in awhile, I promise.

Just people, like you.

No I do not find the female leads relatable, but I do not find the males of the living story relatable either.

Do not try making it out as someone elses failing because you personally think they are being closed minded. The whole point of a character being relatable is to have similar aspects to them you find reflected in yourself, obviously hurdle one is race, then sex then personality.

The issue here is variety of characters, literally zero female and male characters I find relatable, Braham himself is a complete idiot. We need some new characters and asking for a new more likable more competent male lead is hardly something to get up in arms about, it is not like anyone is asking for the female leads to be removed.

Tengu.

I would actually very likely give up playing my human main to play a Tengu.

Mind you I do like Skritt.

Bringing back Scarlet would be an insanely dumb move by Arena Net, her reception by the community has been very, very poor.

Carighan.6758:

Aedelric.1287:

Spoken like someone truly new to the franchise Carighan.

You mean, alpha-tester GW1 levels of new? Hm hrmmmmm…

If you have been around half as long as you claim then you would already understand why Tengu is one of the most sought after races to become playable and well as have expanded content (Dominion of the Winds).

Just because -you- do not want it does not stop it being very popular, essentially the fan favorite.

Spoken like someone truly new to the franchise Carighan.

Minos.5168:

(Oh, and I don’t know why they think we’ll care about the Sylvari more than the Tengu.
-living story writer name removed- tweeted something along the lines of “Why are you so interested in the Tengu?”
Probably because, I don’t know, they’ve existed since GW1.)

I guess that just shows how out of touch the Living Story writers are in regards to what players want and like.

1: Better writing (For overall story and characters)

2: More maps (Do not waste time ruining perfectly nice looking zones, make new ones)

3: Less temporary (Introduce more content that I can play in my own time, not a schedule.)

We have an elder dragon coming and I am not excited about it at all, mainly because from what I have experienced of season one. I am expecting disappointment after disappointment with a handful of fun highlights. The best bits of Season one were the more standalone parts, stop trying to connect everything with ridiculously convoluted lore breaking storylines.

Sixtyfivekid.5726:

Aedelric.1287:

Guild Wars should not be held accountable for other games gender bias.

Yes, it very much should.
Guild Wars is part of an industry and culture that diminishes women and treats them as a collection of tropes rather than actual characters/persons. It is everyone’s job to do something about that.

So what about the other point I made about male characters not having equal strong characterization and qualities? You completely ignored the main point of my post.

Arena Net do not run the gaming industry and it is not their responsibility to rectify other peoples mistakes. Plus making a gender bias in their own game is actually promoting inequality, fyi.

Anyway, I do not have a problem with male or female bias so long as the characters are good and the reasoning is decently thought out. My issue is the poor quality of writing and lack of likable and competent male leads.

We have no idea if we are going to the Maguuma, at least not until Arena Net states it as fact. I did hear an unpleasant rumor that the dragon will move to LA at the end of the story, which would mean no Maguuma. Lets hope that rumor turns out to be false.

The map you used is quite an old one and does show two regions introduced last year. A few of the locations you marked are the Dominion of the Winds, which would likely only ever be used in an expansion.

Guild Wars should not be held accountable for other games gender bias.

Personally I am not really upset about having more female leads than male, I am just annoyed at just how poorly conceived the male leads are and that the female leads have much strong characterization and qualities.

Braham is a dolt even if some people like him, it does not stop him from being a complete useless idiot. He fawns over a horrid woman most of the living story and spolier breaks his leg in the final battle. Arena Net have only written two male characters more pathetic than him, Faren and the Minstrel.

Vexander.9850:

What’s your basis for that?

I think you need to Google or Wiki the term Prince consort.

Logan is not a King in his own right or a Lord or even a noble.

Vexander.9850:

it means Kryta then has a King, and a potential heir to the throne can be born.

Sure, we could get little baby Princes and Princesses but Logan would not become King. I say he would likely become the Prince consort, Prince Thackeray.

Iason Evan.3806:

That is when we will get a new SAB.

Citation needed.

The team that works on the Super Adventure box are the ones that did the Marionette update. Two months is not enough time for a SAB update, I do not see it being too likely that we will be getting any SAB on April 1st.

I do not mind npcs having relationships, I just do not like any story focusing on it as it is quite irrelevant to literally anything in the game. This is a world threatened by apocalyptic dragons, we have far greater concerns.

Personally I have zero interest in Kas/Marj love interest, just like I have zero interest in the Logan/Jenna love interest. The only thing that irritates me is when it becomes the story focus, it detracts for the greater picture and makes me feel like my character is nothing but a creepy nosey eavesdropper.

At least Logans love was much more in the background rather in my face all the time. I blame the writers here, they love the characters a bit too much and have been neglecting other far more important facets of the story.

You can not easily make people better players and new players come to the game all the time essentially defeating the purpose.

I feel sorry for anyone that is truly bothered by other players lack of skill but you might as well learn to live with it as things are not going to ever change.

After reading many of the posts here I am a little worried about Arena Net’s future choices.

I sure hope the dragon is not relocated to LA. Everyone is excited about going to the Maguma, moving the dragon would completely kill that excitement for many people, myself included.

1 Player Housing (If SWTOR can get it then why not us?)

2 Tengu

3 Guild Halls

4 Hall of Monuments (Were we can actually display stuff, not just claim our old rewards)

5 Mursaat

6 New areas with new hearts and missions.

The average score so far seems to be 6.

If a game got 60/100 on metacritic it would be seen as quite the failure, I would not consider this a good result for Arena Net.

4.5/10

Spoilers Obviously

Good points;
Good use of heal-o-tron, elder dragon reveal, chance to take back lions arch and be a hero. Scarlet is removed from the living story at last.

Bad points;
Unskippable cutscenes, unlikable characters the main focus yet again, little character interaction compared to previous living stories, quite surprisingly the buggiest living story of this year. Yet another Scarlet focused living story, still too zergy and substantially unrewarding completion of the meta achievement.

Tobias Trueflight.8350:

I present to you the following title you can look up at your own peril, for this is an atrocious piece of writing which has no artistic merit and the only excuse is that it was written by a minor yet was attempted to be self-published.

“The Eye of Argon”

So now we compare the living story to the fictional works of a 16 year old boy? Yea I can agree with that comparison.

4/10

Highlights are updates like SAB, Bazaar of the Four Winds, new maps, they work well as standalone updates and introduce new interesting gameplay mechanics.

Low points are mostly zerg fests like Queens Jubilee, Tequatl, excessive bugs and uninteresting overall story with forgettable/unlikable characters.

Tobias Trueflight.8350:

Aedelric.1287:

Tobias Trueflight.8350:

And what propaganda, or opinion, is getting forced on me which is so objectionable as to be nearly criminal?

The only thing objectionable or truly criminal here is the exceptionally bad writing.

I’ve seen worse.

Yes, Dan Brown.

My point is I have seen better, a lot better. I actually find it hard to think of modern MMO games that have done worse than Arena Net in regards to the overall plot and characters of the living story.

Purple Miku.7032:

While I agree with you about your ideals of love, I still dislike the feeling of it being forced upon me… especially when I’m playing a game online. I may not like the terminology that this Ben guy used in his post(s), but he does bring up a valid point. That scene really did feel out of place… maybe it would’ve been acceptable if the story wasn’t so cliche and didn’t feel so underwhelmingly drawn out. I participated in a lot of these living stories and acquired most of the achievements and watched just about all of the cutscenes and I didn’t feel any connection with any of the characters, including these two. It definitely felt like that scene was added there for no purpose other than a distraction/attention-grabber to be just like most fairytale endings… the story’s ending wasn’t anything beyond subpar.

You made some very good points in that post, you said almost everything I was thinking while the whole living story was playing out.

Well, for a start if you ever played TESO you would already know how bad that game is, bringing it up here as a sort of `threat´ to try and get Guild Wars 2 to change is kind of a joke.

Queen’s Jubilee and the Zepher Santum are mentioned as highlights to the living story. Zephers Sanctum I can agree with but The Queens Jubilee was horrendous, I could not stand that update, now SAB and The Lost Shores, they were good, new map, new gameplay, great ideas. That all said, the living story is not doing well, the promise was to improve and the last few updates would be the best yet. I am quite disappointed as few lessons were learned from previous releases.

The rewards have often been weak and unsatisfying, the story convoluted and lore breaking, the characters forgettable and unlikable, each release seemingly more buggy than the last and the temporary high pace nature of the content means you can never relax and enjoy at your own pace and when it is over you have nothing left to do. I am willing to give season two another shot, but the living story is quite inadequate as it stands and judging by the final four releases I am not optimistic that things will change in the future.

I appreciate Arena Net’s efforts, but putting so much work into such badly written temporary content is not a good way to go forward. For example one year of Guild Wars 2 and we received quite pitiful living story updates, some fun but mostly buggy and badly written. One year of Guild Wars 1 gave us two great fulfilling addons, Factions and Nightfall. I would happily give Arena Net the price of expansions if we could go back to the quality content releases of years past, sadly SAB and a handful of other decent updates does not equal the quality and quantity of those addons we used to get.

I am not against homosexual relationships, but I dislike how the story too often focuses on it for no real reason.

My main problem is that the characters are bland and I find their scenes tedious. Arena Net deserves respect for trying to present a homosexual relationship, but not for the poor writing and tedious stories revolving around it.

If a rubbish game like SWTOR can get player housing, I see no reason why we can not.

The least Arena Net can do is give us our Guild Halls back.

Their are many forms of epilepsy, and if you have it at all you would likely already know if you could use a computer or not. Technology has advanced over the years, modern computers with higher frame rates, better lighting and picture quality are much less problematic for epileptics compared to very old CRT monitors of years past.

Many photosensitive epileptics can play games, so long as games do not flash images at them constantly, they take breaks and do not play when tired.

I did play the tower but never noticed the hiccup comment so this weird character trait comes right out of the blue and really does not feel right. I guess I would have noticed better if it was not introduced on a whim and was present during more events.

Shiren.9532:

I think we’re supposed to think it’s cute character development or something.

Was it? Personally it just irritated and confused me.

The reason is obvious, to save the writers explaining in exceptionally convoluted terms what her nonsensical plan was, if their was even one at all.

If you want I can explain the whole plot right now, it is quite simp… <.< >.> Look! Braham!

-runs away-

You make a very good point, I was actually thinking this myself during the fight, quite a lot of effects and things were making a lot of unnecessary flickering, even the holograms kept flicking in and out for me.

Not at all healthy or considerate towards those with epilepsy.

Only two things truly impressed me, Kasmeer’s impressively kitten y (Edit- odd they censor that word, it essentially means to look stupid, foolish.) eyes and her equally impressive cleavage.

Okay, okay, everything was fun, but the overall story does not make 100% sense and the waking elder dragon was in no way mind blowing, just predicable.

I am glad many loved it so much, but some people need to stop exaggerating.

Though people have good intentions and Christinas story is compelling and is an inspiring post. I have to say I am against handing out unique items to any players as suggested by trunks.

Their are hundreds of thousands of people playing Guild Wars and many of them have life altering disabilities, it would be extremely unfair to hand out one pet to a single player an ignore the many, many others who may be in similar situations.

I get that people want to do something nice, but this perhaps is not the right course of action.

Was just browsing Massively and noticed this article.

http://massively.joystiq.com/2014/02/26/guild-wars-2-npc-inspires-player-with-multiple-sclerosis/

Make her go out like a punk or not, either way let her go out.

Last thing I want is for her to start stinking up season two with her presence.

They never made the molten pick equal to the sprocket giving watchwork pick. What makes you think that they would care about the terrace?

FlamingFoxx likes to think he has all the answers and that the Narrators are not anyone in particular, but in reality he knows as little as the rest of us.

None of us know and probably will never know if the narrators are characters from the game and if they have any relevance at all, unless Arena Net actually comes out and makes a post about it.

lordkrall.7241:

And surely it is not hard to understand that adding something to a website is much easier than to adding something to a massive game?

Uhh… Duh?

Just because it is not easy does not mean we should stop wanting something.

Moon.7310:

seems like I am not able to understand the problem here. If you don’t like it, fine for me

I like it, I just do not like it being on a website as opposed to a functional tool found in game. Surely that is not hard to understand?

Moon.7310:

Really now… this is just a redesign of the previous pages for the living story releases

No this is not a redesign, the release pages remain, this atlas includes new content, like audio clips, additional art and so on.

So after looking at the atlas for a while I have to say I am not entirely upset or pleased about it.

Yes it is a novel toy and lets us explore locations and various pieces of media from living story releases. I love the art and and especially the audio clips, also the way we are able to unlock more media from finding points of interest is a nice touch.

Thing is one of the major issues players had with the living story was that story content/lore was featured on the website and not in game. This atlas hardly addresses that issue and if anything makes it slightly worse by providing a tool to explore past stories outside the game. I am not sure Arena Net learned anything from all the player complaints.

Please start putting these cool stories and tools inside the game, none of us should have to ever leave the game in order to experience more Guild Wars. Add more options to the hero panel like including this map, to be honest I would even take an ingame browser at this point.

I guess I should be happy that we have a nice new tool to explore but if anything I am more annoyed that we have more web content that I have to log out in order to experience.

For anyone interested.

http://atlas.guildwars2.com/en/

Aedil.1296:

I
Have
Enough.

it’s the only event that doesn’t give credit to me since LA update and next patches.
Is there a known way to complete it or it’s just me i’m stuck?

- Killing mobs don’t work
- healing and give swiftness to ogre don’t work
- running with ogre doing nothing don’t work
- killing + healing + running close to ogre don’t work

Any ideas? couse i’m starting getting really nervous.

Thank you.

You have to kill at least one mob and have ogres escape, you are obviously failing to accomplish either one of those. It is not a hard mission really so long as you have a few more players doing it with you.