The cure is to get more players into PvP.
Good point. However, the new expansion brings no new content for all kinds of player versus player matches. PvP is considered dead by many users, and it’s used mostly for daily achievements. On September 22 2017 it will be it’s official funeral and then buried by all players making wishes to never play it again (unless they get bored alone with dailies) .
At release the game was focused on teamwork, players gathering together in guilds then forming teams with voice chat and play in 5v5 in small tournaments. Then, because players like to play alone, SoloQ came, and then came the current ranked 2/5 as a compromise to not let PvP in SoloQ only with no teamwork. All this is because majority of players does not enjoy PvP and they like to play alone, feeling important in his own world without communication, but still merging into large groups for a common purpose. PvP needs synergy and strong communication, and most players don’t like that – statistics prove it, and the following expansion is a result of that.
A single player in a 5v5 team can only control 20% of his/her own team (considering this is the best player on his profession and fully understands his/her role). No mater how you think of it, mathematically a player can control only 20% of match in a best case scenario. If a player plays alone, 80% of the match is not in his/her control. In a ranked 2/5, a player can have 40% control because of communication with partner, but 60% (rest of players) are not under their control. By typing on keyboard and communicating in written, valued time is wasted in match speed, making that 2/5 control even smaller that 40%. So, no matter how you think of it, ArenaNet has control of your game with that 60% giving you players as computer sees fit. PvP is dead, and was for the past years, ever since SoloQ was introduced, because players asked for it.
On September 22 2017 it is time for PvP and WvW funerals.
It’s already the 2nd of August .. is there going to be an Anniversary Sale this year?
Usually its a new item being sold each day until the end of August?
You might have noticed that there are a few other things going on right now.
There is an anniversary sale: it’s called Path of Fire and it costs just 30 EUR (less than HoT upon release). ArenaNet hopes you will enjoy it.
The biggest (and only) gripe I have with the new expansion is that I find it way too expensive…. 30 euro for an expansion? Hell no…. 15 or 20 euro is more than enough… Prices these days are nuts….
Price is OK. Think about how much entertainment you get for that 30 EUR. You buy the expansion, you can get into that content for years after release. The price is fine in my opinion.
All that new content will be focused on PvE open world events, that is why we will have mounts and huge PvE maps, without PvP content and without WvW content.
The new expansion has to be power creep, it needs to be overpowered, otherwise the game will not sell. In the end it’s all about profit, and to attract people in buying the game, players need to feel like they can not win well without it, therefore PoF will have another power creep.
However, this new meta will not last long, only a few months, then the game will slowly, very slowly, get rebalanced.
Why do you provide your feedback?! Aren’t there pages and pages of ideas for PvP improvements? Can’t you see the new expansion will not bring something new to PvP?
Years have passed with requests for new game modes, for diversity, for new maps, for balance, for something… anything. And now the new expansion comes with PvE content only (no PvP and no WvW).
Please, by all means, keep providing your feedback for PvP… if you clearly, and absolutely, don’t have something more important to do in PvE.
Hi, does this mean that we will get another shared inventory slot? Or will it just push out whatever we have in the shared slot (if we only have the one slot given from HoT) ?
Good question. I would also like to know the answer. Does PoF provide a new shared inventory slot?
1. PvP players will have to buy the expansion like everyone else, not because of PvE content with new maps, but because new builds that will be more powerful. If PoF would be like HoT in PvP efficiency, then it will not sell, and we all know the game has to sell.
2. Right now the game is well balanced and all it’s PvP concepts are in harmony; it’s a true eSport by all means, therefore any new game modes and new PvP maps are not necessary. Such plans for PvP would only consume time and energy with design, instead of providing players with a more comfortable way of traveling, like mounts.
3. PvP is not as attractive as PvE. Most players like to play PvE and they are the ones who actually buy many gems. PvE is the area to focus because is the area of interest for majority of players.
I will be the downer: think of the past and visualize how happy and satisfied you were because every patch was much better than expected. This expansion will provide you that same feeling of exaltation.
Mounts are mandatory. Without them you will not be able to reach certain locations or complete some objectives. You must have them.
In my opinion Royal Terrace pass beats every other pass currently in game, because it has the shortest distance between TP – bank – mystic forge. Royal Terrace has the least amount of walking between those 3 points.
Besides, Royal Terrace was released in GW2 core game, not HoT or PoF, and is located in Divinity Reach, providing a chance to meet more people than other locations.
Compared to other special passes it does not offer features like low gravity, but it gets the job done fast and efficient.
Just for your information, you can’t currently use the pass yet. You have to play the first episode of the expansion first in order to use it (or so it says ingame). So if you go for the ultimate version for the pass, you would have to wait a month and 22 days (at least).
“This item will not activate until after you have completed Chapter 1 of the Path of Fire story.”
+1
Thank you for this info. This answer is what I have been waiting. We have time to decide, lots of time. Thank you.
To avoid possible problems during defrag, first don’t forget to backup your copy of Guild Wars 2. To achieve this, feel free to use 1.44 floppy disks.
Presumably it is a teleport to a little area in the expansion with bank, TP, crafting, etc all close together. Many of these already exist in the game (Royal Terrace, Havoc’s Heir, Mistlock Sanctuary, Lava Lounge, Noble’s Folly).
Yes, presumably it is, but I’d like to have some actual facts before I decide to spend the extra $25 US for that bonus.
Don’t spend $25 just for this. Such items cost 1000 gems. This should cost you $12.5 on full price (thinking 800 gems cost $10).
I would also like to know more info about this item in game. No video on Youtube so far.
They are making a distinction between Europe and USA, creating different treatments between Europeans and Americans.
I can’t remember the proper word for it in English.
Will new specializations replace the old ones?
Two years ago they made a promise: every new expansion would contain previous expansions for free. Now people have to buy them in bundle.
Two years ago they also made a second promise: with every expansion release, all non-upgraded accounts would get previous expansions for free. Now old accounts of core game will no longer get HoT.
Seriously ArenaNet?! You started breaking promises now?
They promised that for each new expansion, you could get the previous expansions for a single price point. They are remaining true to this in providing bundles.
I don’t recall them saying that you would get previous expansions for free anywhere. Care to link a source?
that would also be wierd. i can understand if when the third expansion comes out they then make hot free.
but making the last expansion free for each new one, instead of just cheap, would be wierd marketing and make people speculated in not getting the expansion bc, soon it is free.
Indeed. You are all right and I was wrong. For some reason I had a wrong information in memory: https://www.guildwars2.com/en/news/pre-purchase-community-address/
Two years ago they made a promise: every new expansion would contain previous expansions for free. Now people have to buy them in bundle.
Two years ago they also made a second promise: with every expansion release, all non-upgraded accounts would get previous expansions for free. Now old accounts of core game will no longer get HoT.
Seriously ArenaNet?! You started breaking promises now?
This new legendary is AWESOME! Simply awesome! It’s so beautiful.
Please, I beg you ArenaNet, please add more legendaries! Great work! Thank you!
I’m sorry, but if I had wanted to play a puzzle game, I would have bought a puzzle game instead of this game.
The jumping puzzle/puzzle element used to be a side element back when the game launched, didn’t do them then when it was a choice, sure as kitten don’t want to do them now as kitten requirements.
I was hyped about the new expansion, but I was hyped for a GuildWars2 expansion, not a GuildPuzzle2/PuzzleWars2 that this has become. Sadly, I only see it becoming worse, judging by the amount that was in this Living World season. That’s just my opinion, I’m sure many others think the opposite, which is fine, to each their own.
I am with you. I hate jumping puzzles, and I always will hate this part of the game. Now jumping puzzles are mandatory in this game. GuildWars2 is turning into PuzzleWars2,
in my opinion too. I just can’t wait to see what puzzles new expansion brings.
At first (when the game released) I thought Guild Wars meant wars between guilds, but in fact is guilds fighting for whoever finishes a raid or a jumping puzzle faster.
Thank you very much. This information is awesome.
When I start the game client, after login it keeps asking me to secure my account with SMS.
This is really frustrating. This is just a game and I do not want to give such personal data. It keeps asking me again, and again, and again, like I should be really tempted in that worthless Chinese Mystical Dragon… well I am not interested in anything chinese, because I don’t like chinese culture (I am an european player).
Now… how do I disable this disappointing request for SMS? Is there some feature, or variable, or shortcut, to disable this announcement in game client?!
Please, I beg you, please help me with this information. If you are a player and you have this information, post it here, and I promise to give you 5 gold in game as courtesy (for first valid answer, not all answers to this post).
Great change. I love the new Gem Store. Please keep on adding new features like this. Thank you for the work.
There are people who like adventure, action, complexity, teamwork… and sometimes there are people who simply like to farm and grind (alone or in a team).
An MMO game should address all types of players, for different moods a player could have, and player can feel happy in different paths of entertainment.
In my opinion grinding and farming is an important part of an MMO. This still reminds me of the good old days in WoW.
When you play an MMO, you meet all kinds of people, different in many ways. If you do not like to play together, in a team, then MMO games are probably not for you.
Thank you for that quit. May I get the gold? I love PvE.
Changes?! Who wants changes? We voted for team max of 2, we voted for changing characters before game starts and manipulation of MMR. Please stop making such threads.
Game is being improved… for 4.5 years. Wait for it to become better like we all do, or move on like others did.
Don’t forget you can play with a friend in a 5v5 match, thus obtaining a whopping 40% control of match (assuming every player has 20% value from 100% team value).
Celestial existed in the past. People asked for it to be removed. It got removed. Celestial will never be added again.
Like title states, please stop copy/paste of items. You take items from your own product (aka Guild Wars 1) and “sell” them to us with gems. For example you recently added Elemental Sword taken from Guild Wars 1.
When you do this with common items, people can understand the difficulty of creating a game and trying to release content fast, but trying to actually sell this with 2000 gems makes me think why I play this game. I do not wish to play Guild Wars 1 and it’s content again. I want something new, fresh, completely different. If I want to play Guild Wars 1 I can simply login there, and avoid spending 2000 gems.
I feel offended. You copy/paste items, and then you want to make $$$ from me by selling those to me. Seriously?! What do you think about your players?
Like this is not enough, let’s try to remember you already did this in the past with many other items, some of them directly sold to Gem Store (for example: Emissary Staff). This shows lack of imagination, weak communication with player community, a somewhat laziness in game design, inability to adapt on modern graphics.
Sorry for the criticism, but in all honesty, I want something new and interesting, with your designers perspective. If a school teacher sees a child copying from a friend, that teacher will not stand by and watch this happening. I had to take action and make this post.
In the past I clearly remember ArenaNet made a promise to never modify PvP during seasons. Today this promise has been broken by today patch.
Matchmaking got modified.
Battle for Kyhlo map got modified.
Thank you ArenaNet for not keeping your promises towards PvP players.
Thank you ArenaNet for treating your player base… like you do.
Since developers are so interested about chess in GuildWars2 events, why not create some form of Player Versus Player or Guild Versus Guild using chess?
It should not be that hard to create a chess 3d map, put pieces, and let the players do the thinking against each other. A more advanced programming would be replacing the pieces with players fighting 1v1 for fun inside Guild Versus Guild, even though result is predetermined by chess rules.
And yet… I do think this is too much to ask. I still remember those 5 years of feedback from players.
Please remove finishers. You already removed most finishers, why add Llama finisher and Unicorn finisher from time to time? It’s an offense to my intelligence if you think I will buy them in future.
In the past there were many finishers with hundreds of gems in Gemstore. Then you put them in Black Lion Chests and now they cost a couple of gold each. Why would you think anyone would be crazy enough to buy finishers at 700 gems? I can simply wait to get them with a few gold in future, like nowadays.
In conclusion… please stop offending my intelligence and stop adding finishers to Gemstore, like you already did with most finishers.
Outfits are a good investment. It does not cost you transmutation charges to change, and they do look nice. Almost all outfits have something interesting in them. Most of the times, when if I see them on special offers, I get them.
However, I do not like Llama finisher and Unicorn finisher. How dare they put finishers on trading post?! I bought so many finishers in the past, and afterwards they added them into Black Lion Chest, now selling for a couple of gold each on auction. They will be waiting a very long time for my gems to spend for finishers, not after what they did to all other finishers in the past.
In other words: buy outfits and skins, avoid finishers.
In my local store I see 2 products on same shelf: GW2 Heroic Edition and GW2 Heart of Thorns.
If I buy Heart of Thorns I know I will get HoT + GW2 vanilla included.
If I buy Heroic Edition, will I get HoT included with it?
HoT Price Feedback + Base game included [merged]
in Guild Wars 2: Heart of Thorns
Posted by: Alin.2468
I expected 50% off in price on October 23 2016, because it was an anniversay day for HoT. It did not happen.
I expect 50% off in price on November 25 2016, because of Black Friday.
I expect 50% off in price on November 28 2016, because of Cyber Monday.
The combo pack is finally back. (yay) 4 days only however.
Still unhappy?! You got what you asked for. Get it. Use it. Have fun with it. You do not need 4 days to make a simple buy in gem store that can be done in 4 seconds.
ArenaNet listened, they actually listened to community about the mini cat witch and bad wings. You should enjoy, and say thank you, not criticise.
The guy just stated that it was back (although necro’d 2 separate threads)
I don’t see complaints – chill out.
No. I shall not chill out (unless some necro will put the chill condition on me).
No player said thank you so far. Many asked for those wings, but so far I have seen 0 players coming and saying: Thank you ArenaNet.
This is just how an ungrateful community behaves. Many ask, complain, leave negative feedback, and when modifications are made and given as requested, only very very few say thank you.
The combo pack is finally back. (yay) 4 days only however.
Still unhappy?! You got what you asked for. Get it. Use it. Have fun with it. You do not need 4 days to make a simple buy in gem store that can be done in 4 seconds.
ArenaNet listened, they actually listened to community about the mini cat witch and bad wings. You should enjoy, and say thank you, not criticise.
If something is limited, then most of the time is limited for 1 week. In that week there is enough time to buy gems with $$$ and that desired item.
I am a salty player. PvP is bad, very bad, for more than 4 years. They work on balance, for 4 years, and still balance it. Thank you for still trying to balance professions and MMR.
Sorry if I was too salty, but I switched from PvP to PvE in the past 6 months, and let’s just say now I understand why this game sells and where it is really good at.
I do play and have lots of fun with Elementalist, when it’s on daily. Elementalist is not worth playing for the reasons already stated by so many players in the past few months (since HoT). Why play support in a meta designed for power creep? Why try to do damange when all attunements combined in 10 seconds can not output the damage of any other profession in same given time? Why weewee against the wind? Seriously, you have to be insane to choose elementalist in PvP.
Like stated by many others, the only moment in history when Elementalist was good, was that moment when for PvP existed Celestial Amulet, because every spell had it’s small place in a big picture. Right now, I do not wish to play with half of skills (or half of profession), just because I play only support or only dps. Elementalist is a full ongoing concept bug, because it has to be reanalized from scratch. And, as we all know the design is made with PvE in mind (because it sells) then we will have to wait a long time for Elementalist back in meta for PvP.
Meanwhile, I strongly advise all players to not choose elementalist in PvP, but instead learn something new, something with lots of dps and and have fun with it. Elementalist is like a fluffy little kitten, you love it, it’s cute, but it will die fast against angry professions with burning swords and poisonous axes in their hands.
I read through the handful of threads between here and Reddit and I wouldn’t call it a “huge ****storm”. Just some players complaining about something which is no different than anything else. I guess those could be “huge ****storms” too. It just sounds exaggerated.
i get that you want content updates every two weeks like before, or something like that, but it won’t happen as I guess there were enough players that wanted e passions that Anet found themselves having to make them. Besides, most of the content releases were just achievement grinds.
I’ll just leave some links here for you and the devs:
reddit – The worst GW Halloween to date 940 upvotes, 418 comments
reddit – Alright. I’ll say it. 829 upvotes, 345 comments
reddit – diminishing returns ruined this event for me 325 upvotes, 225 commentsYou won’t see numbers like that usually. So I don’t know if
Just some players complaining about something
is appropriate.
Thank you. Now that is feedback from players. That is how things should be seen.
This item reminds me of farming Nightfury skin or Winters Presence Skin.
I think ArenaNet created events somewhat too expensive since HoT release, requiring to do the exact same things over and over again, repetitively, just to get a virtual item in a database. I can never do that. It may help their economy, but it destroys the fun of casual players, like me.
I wish a lot of fun to all people with big hearts to actually love this game so much.
Not everyone comes every day on forums.
I…. I don’t understand this concept….
My brain hurts now.
~EW
I get you. My brains also heart after so much Shadow Labyrinth. But it’s fun. Because of that fun I wish you all Happy Birthday, even though this topic started about HoT.
Yeah. It is 1.5 days early. But it’s weekend. Not everyone comes every day on forums.
In theory, there should have been an official announcement or offer, I was faster even than Anet.
2015.10.23 – official release of first expansion (Heart of Thorns) in Guild Wars 2.
2016.10.23 – 1 year since release of first expansion in Guild Wars 2.
Happy Birthday!
Next Sunday, on October 23 2016, Heart of Thorns will have one year since release.
Happy Birthday Heart of Thorns!
As players of this game, let’s wish developers Happy Birthday, or express our feeback, after one year since release of first expansion in Guild Wars 2.
When will Halloween start this year, and how long will it be active? Any ideas?
In 2015 Halloween event started on October 23 and it was held for 2 weeks.
In 2014 Halloween event started on October 21 and it was held for 2 weeks.
In 2013 Halloween event started on October 15 and it was held for 4 weeks.
In 2012 Halloween event started on October 22 and it was held for 1 week.
Pasting from one drive to another in windows is a predictable operation and the timing still can’t be calculated with 100% accuracy. Downloading from the internet is, at best, a vague estimate. It depends on your connection, which has multiple steps, none of which ANet has any control over. It depends on your computer and what else it’s doing, including other downloads, none of which ANet has any control over. To a certain extent, the footprint of their files depends on the configuration of our hard drives, so they can’t even necessarily see the total space needed either.
Wrong! The client can be set to calculate the time remaining based on total space to download (with a simple statistic transmitted when connection to server is initiated) and the average speed calculated so far. It would not even matter the speed, because client will adapt those values and modify them according to my speeds (internet speed, I/O speed, etc.).
All they can do is give us the download speed for their own files and tell us how many files there are.
Absolutely and totally irrelevant information. I do not wish to know all those thousand of files and space corresponding to each file. This information is theirs and is for their maintenance and security only.
FYI the issue of “how big is the download” is discussed on the wiki all the time. Some people think they shouldn’t post a “size” because it isn’t consistent for everyone. Some insist that it’s better to have a ballpark figure that suggests the best case scenario.
I am glad many others have the same questions as me. This means this issue of space and remaining download was not only my idea and it should really become a change in the client whenever possible.
In short, they can’t really predict how long it’s going to take for you. You’re the best judge based on your past experience.
Again wrong! They don’t have to predict anything, it’s done automatically by the client. Space of files for download is the same on client as it’s on server. Client makes calculations and modifies displayed information for users. The number of files is again irrelevant, as it can change, just like their space can change from one patch to the next. The space of client is not different between clients, because all those thousand of files are compressed in just a few files of client (feel free to check client before speaking of different hard drives configurations, assuming thousand of separate files).