Guild Wars 2

eksn.7264:

This thread has gone to kitten so I thought I would drop a positive message. Despite all the skill lag, the long fights we had at SoS garri were a ton of fun tonight. Good kitten to SoR and SBI.

Yeah, that was a blast. The best one was where you and SoR were fighting in the lords room, and we were running around the 2nd floor picking off whoever came up. Then the doors reinforced during it, and eventually you prevailed over SoR, and came for us. Was a blast and a lot of bags.

Had a blase before that in SoR BL, I was a pug runnin with Abyss. It was nice to see SoR respect us some, and we had some epic fights at Bay, and the southern towers.

Hope the rest of the week is as much fun.

As for SoS tanking, they are not. They are just getting double teamed in their BL during primetime, and then SoR is handling their oceanic. It is kind of a break break for SoS.

Jeydra.4386:

scootshoot.6583:

renmei.3102:

Jeydra.4386:

How are you going to compete against JQ then?

shrug SOR has always been the smallest of the 3 T1 servers population-wise. We are the least 1st place finishing and the most stable T1 server with no real server booms or implosions/drama. We don’t get too many bandwagoners (thankfully, they’re mostly PPT stomping bait) and no major wvw guilds transferring off.

Well put. SOR is the most stable amongst BG and JQ. As an example, SOR’s recruitment thread “Meet Sanctum of Ralls army”. SOR doesn’t hide the fact we have the least coverage of the 3 so people who transfer in know exactly what they in for, underdog role and lots of fights.

Blackgate recruitment post on the other hand states, “Blackgate, ranked tier 1 in North American WvW,”, so the bandwagoners go to that server for that specific goal but I’ll tell you what, when BG can’t meet those claims for weeks on end is when the in fighting and drama starts from the new transfers which can quickly spread.

Regardless you still have the least coverage. JQ literally annihilated SoS. It got to the point where most SoS players didn’t even bother trying to make progress on the map; they just wanted to avoid JQ’s zerg while maintaining a decent cap rate. SoR may be winning, but the margin isn’t anywhere near what JQ did to us. Are you saying that BG is more likely than SoR to beat JQ … ?

It’s not that you faced JQ, it also has to do with the other server. Last week, FA finished last place, and not even close to MAG in our match up. One of the main reasons is because we kept dominating their BL in non prime time, but MAG kept defending their BL, and we couldn’t really make a dent in it. CD is a non factor in that match up, and FA might pull it out this week.

SoS would be doing better, if it wasn’t for Abyss, KT, and some pugs holding hills and the area around it so well last night. At 6 am est time, we still had hills, with only about 4 or 5 people there..

laneie.8073:

So excited for this match =) See you on the battle field.

if I could only get into the BL. The best thing about SBI when we were 12+ was the lack of a que. 39 minutes and ticking on my que for SoS BL.

Amurond.4590:

Andrew Clear.1750:

Plus, this match up could get us into the gold league.

And why would anyone below 4th want that?

I want it, for the fun. +600 all week long is boring as hell. It turns WvW into a glorified mining location.

Anyone who played sports knows that fighting the best is what it is all about.

electriette.8952:

hehehehehe

PPT equals skill amirite sbi

lol…..TC is trolling us. Do I smell fear? or Respect?

Mystery.7392:

Sorry SBI and SoS.

No need to be sorry. I wanted a taste of tier 1 again. It has been so long since SBI has been up here.

We might get spanked, but let us have some fun, cause that is what this is all about.

Plus, this match up could get us into the gold league.

Caroline.4987:

According to a couple GF people I talked to, they did it so they could hunt down the Mag and other guilds who had wagonned off T3 to the T1s during the Leagues. =P

lol, that is funny. Transfers wanting to hunt down others cause they transfered.

Pot calling the kettle black right there.

taek.9386:

I agree!!

I can’t believe we SOS is the 5th rank server (at the moment) and our population for wvw is peanuts compared to 1,2,3 and 4th ranked server.

TC are currently steamrolling us this week and they are the 4th ranked server. JQ last week murdered us by 300k at the end of the week.

All i can say is that when gold league starts and SOS is part of the 6, there will be a lot of crap matches when paired up with us…..

SoS has the weak NA, which really hurts them. If a server can just hold off your SEA/Oceanic long enough to not lose what they gained during NA, then you are in for a bad week.

I hope we (SBI) get SoS this week. I still remember when we faced every week, til the RNG came around. Then, hardly saw you guys after that (but we saw BP almost every week)

alopex.4625:

Is there a list (outside of the game itself) which indicates the actual population status of the servers ?
Unless all these servers pay for your transfer, cost is an issue to consider when you’re looking for a server.

Populations aren’t given out, but to make a logical guess, I would think the cap would be around a max of 150 per server per BL.

WvW, is probably the least popular portion of GW2, in terms of population. The transfer special isn’t really taking into account the WvW population. Some servers have very high populations, that mainly are only PvE focused.

Luvpie.8350:

We could all go to T1 and do coverage war but the queue & skill lag will be unbearable. Plus it will be bad for the game to make T1 stronger since RNG/leagues will vary the matchups & competition will be bad. We really need to balance the population to T2 to bring it closer to TC’s strength but not as big.

Goal would be bring 2 more candidates to subTC’s level or a little higher then FA’s level. FA is what I consider true T2 server but TC has grown to T1.5. TC also needs a reality check here. There are only 3 T1 servers. If TC becomes T1 server then T2 is permanently screwed similar to how you are always dominating everyone outside of T1 but in T1 you can’t do much. This can’t be fun for you or FA/Mag and any one else that moves up to T2.

Here’s what we need.

TC- Needs to stop recruiting and trying to become T1 server. There can be only 3. Once we get a true T2 3 servers then we can try to bring T2 servers closer to kitten make Gold league have variety.

FA/SoS/Mag/SBI – Out of these 4 servers 2 servers need to get closer to TC’s population. Here is what each of these servers needs. If you are considering transferring out of T1 or transferring to higher tier for different type of matchup pick one of these 4 servers to help bring some balance to T2.

FA – Needs NA/Oceanic/SEA. They need a little help in all 3 timezones it seems looking their matchup history with TC,Mag,SBI.

SoS – Needs NA. SoS currently has the weakest NA out of the 4 candidates but have great oceanic coverage & couple sea/eu guilds.

Mag – Mag needs Oceanics/SEA. Mag has the strongest NA out of all 4 candidates & have really great EU/early NA coverage as well.

SBI – Needs time to organize & rebuild mostly which numbers can’t help. New to the mix only tested for 1 week against FA/Mag have great SEA/Oceanic and has high NA numbers but lacks experience in higher tiers.

So please if you looking to transfer to a new server, please consider one of these 4 servers and help balance T2.

No, No, and No. Sure, there can only be 3 tier 1 servers, but telling TC to stop recruiting, is just plain stupid. They are trying to compete with tier 1 servers, and maybe make it into tier 1 themselves. If their are 4 tier 1 servers, then there is more competition at the top, and that makes for a better league. The other 2 servers in gold league would get killed, but at least it would be a 4 horse race instead of 3.

No it isn’t pointless. How about, whenever one of the top 3 teams faces two of the bottom 3 teams, the bottom 2 double team that top tier team the whole week. Us bottom 3 might not have a chance to win, but we sure can cause havok for the top 3.

Also, if we double team, there is a better chance for one of the 2 lower servers to pull out an upset that week. Just need to make sure that we don’t turn against each other, and focus fire on the higher server.

They can be beaten. But it will take effort on our part. It sure would be fun to try.

Insane Pancakez.9182:

kitten Beast I thought you guys were a skill group but instead running with abys and pugs If there are any skill groups left that don’t run with pug zergs, please stand up.

Funny, considering I saw plenty of Inc within other zergs yesterday. Or was it pugs in an Inc zerg….can never tell with your leet talking.

amanda.6178:

matty.4907:

Evalana.5480:

matty.4907:

I can’t believe all the smack talk that mag did and yet we’re still outplaying both servers. Just look at the points. Now that’s what you call superior tactics and skill. You could learn a thing or two from SBI mag. Like how not to fail miserably.

Yes. You are right!
I learned a lot!

1) brag more on the forum about superior numbers tactics
2) complain about x opposing server about having ‘too many necros’ when they wipe your group that definitely has more skill.
3) beat chest furiously every time you take a keep.
4) make repeated lame attempts at insulting an opposing server because you are outscoring them so CLEARLY you are WAY better at this game than they are
5) make immature guild names poking fun at said server for being ‘really really bad’

How am I doing?

You have really shown me the light. Tomorrow I will be transferring to SBI so I can be a good player too!

1)Undermining your superior servers gets you nowhere. You won’t learn unless you accept being outplayed by our superiority.
2)Maybe if you just stopped basking in your own glory you would realize that people like you are the reason Mag is bad.
3)Also, we are clearly better. If you ever turn off your forum warrior build and actually go into game you will see that we are winning by almost 40k points. That’s 40,000.
4)Dang, I can count too!
—-?

But guys! Look at all of SBI’s points! When you have that many points, you clearly don’t need to prove to anyone that your server is genuinely good and not just bloated with transfers! Over 200,000 points? More like over 200,000 reasons why SBI is best server NA and definitely not going to be turned into a smoldering, vaguely wagon shaped smear of ash on the ground by T1-2 server.

We know we will get spanked by t1. But, aren’t we spanking a t2 atm? I believe we are. But, they did lose numbers, so they are probably a t3 now.

Just deal with the fact we beat you this time. And yeah we have some coverage at night, but we don’t dominate. If we did, we would have more success on MAGs BL, but they do defend it well, with a good amount of numbers.

I enjoyed the match up. Looking forward to the next one. Win or lose, I will have fun.

kerona.3465:

They don’t bother locking our threads anymore. I did get infracted this week, though.

Enjoy the T2 blobs. If you’re complaining about Mag and FA apparently both trying to take a dive, you’ll be in for it in T2 lol.

Please, no one is tanking this match up. Trying to use that as an excuse, cause you don’t want to be beat by the “bandwagon” server.

deathTouch.9706:

Andrew Clear.1750:

Kiro.3164:

deathTouch.9706:

I’d like to kindly remind all T1 players to please keep their trash kittening within the confines of their own threads. Thank you.

Wasnt talking trash. I complement a commander, get asked how TB is doing … then told Im trash talking.

Welcome to the Mag PvF. But, it’s ok, cause they can talk the talk, but they sure aren’t walking the walk.

Whoops seems I can get a more accurate hold of the situation than you despite not reading the actual post.

You forgot that you told him to keep his t1 talk in his t1 forum. You forgot to post that portion of the quote, which is what I was replying to, Mr PvF.

Kiro.3164:

deathTouch.9706:

I’d like to kindly remind all T1 players to please keep their trash kittening within the confines of their own threads. Thank you.

Wasnt talking trash. I complement a commander, get asked how TB is doing … then told Im trash talking.

Welcome to the Mag PvF. But, it’s ok, cause they can talk the talk, but they sure aren’t walking the walk.

AsmallChicken.9634:

I love how SBI continues to blame our necros for being the reason we wipe you guys over and over and never faults themselves.

The reason our necros are so effective is because you let them be.

So, what do you blame when we are wiping you over and over again? (And, it does happen).

Jenrah.5403:

Niim.9260:

Kiro.3164:

I actually can solo camps still

I question the value of someone’s viewpoint when one of their highlights is soloing a camp.

God this is so lame. Take someone out of context for a post. I heard Mag was like this but until I’d seen it in detail I had no idea how infantile it was.

Again I will stop for fear of child abuse but guys……find another angle……ironically perhaps is your highlight of the week….. Taking our Garrison……once. 3 pages of ‘chest thumping’. Come on…..really?

Though Mag was all about roamers, and small cough zergs. So, why are you knocking a fellow roamer?

Kiro.3164:

Chris.3290:

Kiro.3164:

kartek.6428:

ppt roamers r best roamers

This week I cant, JadeBlob and Sanctum of Bags are zerging everywhere lol

Point invalidated by OP.

The only time anyone ever solos anything in T1 is because there are no less than 4 sets of orange swords elsewhere on the map calling all zerglings back to their motherships.

As a thief, zergs kill me faster than PvX. But yea, following a BG tag will get you some badges. All the cool kids flock to it.

Badges….Badges….We don’t need no stinking badges.

So, MAG, I have a question for you. Why do you bother to capture and defend things if you don’t care about PPT? Why not just run around and fight zergs, and individual players, if that is what you care about?

Just wondering, cause most of the posts on here are anti PPT, but yet you do love to Capture stuff, even when it isn’t defended at all.

Niim.9260:

Evalana.5480:

Mag got BURN and GOAT like 3-4ish months ago from Borlis.

I haven’t seen GOAT around and isn’t BURN on FA or SBI, seems like we fought them this week.

And this helped you move up in the rankings some. Not as dramatic as we have recently. But, back in April / May, I do remember you were around 8 / 9 in the rankings, and you moved up to around what, 6 / 7?

Niim.9260:

Evalana.5480:

Mag got BURN and GOAT like 3-4ish months ago from Borlis.

I haven’t seen GOAT around and isn’t BURN on FA or SBI, seems like we fought them this week.

We have RISE, but I have seen some members in red names with RISE as their guild.

Dainank.1308:

I was wondering if there would ever be leagues or tournaments hosted by official companies allowing experienced famous gamers to fight each other over a 2 week long battle in WvWvW?

Probably not with how WvW is currently scored. It is far from an even competition.

Seems the servers in the lower tiers (at least on NA) have the more competitive scores. Tier 1 will be competitive, but you might have to wait to get into fight sometimes.

Mid tiers aren’t too bad either.

I think a lot of the time it really comes down to how the system is gonna match you up with other servers.

With the leagues starting, I would think that the lowest league is going to have the most consistently competitive match ups.

On NA for example, we know the top 3 will compete for gold, while the other 3 in the league will get steam rolled. And the top 3 will only face off against each other in a match up, maybe 2 or 3 times in 7 weeks.

Silver is gonna get dominated by the 7th placed server, with the 8th competiting as well. Everyone else is gonna get dominated. Now, with it being 7 weeks, this league is hardly going to have any competitive match ups.

Bronze has been picked clean, so the numbers seem closer, and I think this league will have the most competitive match ups. Sure, the top 2 servers will most likely win in this league, but overall, the match ups should be closer all around.

This is subject to change as people take advantage of the pre season server transfer sale.

styx.7294:

PvE don’t need to transfer ever so let’s not even worry about that.

If we think the problem is that there should be more people transferring off the high WvW population servers to low population servers, let’s just do the direct and simple thing:

Close transfers except to a rotating list of select few low ranked servers.

If a pve person doesn’t participate in wvw, and they are tired of hitting the server selection button everyday and selecting the server that they like to play on, then that person will be compelled to transfer.

urieldhynne.2743:

WvW should be by teams or wvw exclusive servers and not by pve servers.

This is a pve game, wvw is only a mode or minigame inside a pve game. PVP/wvw is not truly integrated into the core game.

It is called World vs World because it is SERVER vs SERVER. The servers fighting each other is the core principle of WvW.

Does the population and coverage issue suck? Yep. But that is what you are going to get, because the majority of people who play GW2 are PvE players. Some might come in and play WvW now and then, but not like the dedicated WvW players. Even some sPvP players wont even play WvW.

The sad reality is, that if Anet tried to force people to transfer to certain servers, or that they didn’t allow transfers at all, people would complain about that, just like there are people who are complaining about stacking.

Can’t please everyone.

I feel bad for the designers, because they not only have to fix the game mode, make it more attractive to losing teams, but they also have to make sure that what they do doesn’t get exploited. Attempting to balance something, that can never be balanced is going to frustrate a lot of people.

Xirin.8593:

Jenrah.5403:

I’ve thought of a saying we used to use when watching a football match……..

Terrible analogy. Football teams compete with an equal number of players and they don’t score points while their opponents sleep.

And your point is? Football teams might have the same number of players, but they are not equal. There are different coaches, talent levels, practice schedules, training schedules, the amount of time players practice on their own, etc, etc, etc. So yes, they do score points while their opponents sleep.

SmoothHussler.6387:

dynafire.5196:

Haha, I was thinking this exactly. I would not want to be known as the server that no one ever returns to, or that doesn’t welcome back former players. The only thing that shows is that a person holds grudges, or that the experience on the server was so bad – no one wants to return. I’d far rather be the opposite.. As you said, maybe that’s just what we get with our years.

Naw. We’re not into bandwagoners. Its better anyone who wants to bandwagon leaves mag. And take Oldsmeller with you if you go.

Except, didn’t you get a lot of transfers from BP? And some others recently? Or do those not count?

dreztina.4820:

Is there anyone on atm that can put up a fight? This is a bit silly. I know it’s a higher tier, but come on.

LOL. I remember wiping a nice size zerg in EB earlier, when they tried for our tower. They also had about 6 Omega’s with them.

So, yeah, people are putting up a fight. You just aren’t around to participate in them. I guess it sucks to be you.

Doesn’t seem like the necro zerg is helping too much tonight, like it did Monday.

Well, since Wednesday is almost over, and SBI has held it’s own the past few nights in primetime, I can safely predict that we will be victorious this week. WooHoo…I get 3 more greens pieces of crap

Pinko.2076:

iAmTheDuke.6201:

I heard SBI was complaining about necros?

noice marks m8

Don’t encourage him….

Don’t forget about the free transfers and discounted transfers Anet is offering to people before the season starts…. lol

This is gonna get really messy.

Chris.3290:

This page is very interesting. Selan has admitted that FA is tanking, though it’s called “vacation” (wink wink).

Also, I think everyone expected SBI to bleed off some people as they moved up and there may very well be a complete riot over there (look for a massive tanking effort) as the folks who moved there early on from DR and DH signed up to be at the top of the original Silver League and didn’t sign up for possible Gold League with only the top 6.
If SBI rolls snake eyes and gets TC or higher, there will be a last minute panicked exodus.

Likewise there will be a last minute flood to the server that looks like a lock for the top of Silver.

I think the WORST possible outcome would be FA and SoS in Gold League. SBI will superstack, snore through leagues, and will have ungodly momentum at the end of the first season; right as the T2 servers will still be shaky on their feet (FA is looking very unstable and TC is even looking a bit wobbly) we might even see TC or FA lose people at the end of the season (a lot of folks on TC have gotten soft on 4 out of 5 matches being against lower ranked servers; though they have a pretty loyal core).

I still don’t understand why people would want to transfer for some crappy rewards that won’t be worth it. If you are gonna transfer, do it for the right reasons, like a server that has a better showing in your play time so you can actually play and have fun. Not for some dumb kitten finisher and a hand full of blues and greens, with maybe a yellow thrown in.

Hexin.5603:

Andrew Clear.1750:

….

I’m sorry, but I have been on TS this week, and I can tell you that the guilds that transfered in are having fun in this matchup, even on Monday when MAG was killin us in NA Primetime.

The core sbi, pre transfer peeps, aren’t going to go anywhere. We love our sever, and have been with it even during our drop from tier 1 in Jan til now. Why do you think we would leave cause of getting rolled? Mag used to roll us every week earlier this year, and we didn’t care. We had fun, and tried our best.

We didn’t transfer after we took on DB during the summer, and got utterly spanked by them.

We didn’t transfer after those arrowcart lovin BP folks kept beating us.

We won’t transfer after JQ beats us either…..But it will be fun to run around and say “JQ spy” all the time, like the old days

Core will remain, generally always does until it’s either move or leave game.

Transfers are having fun this week because you are still winning. The honeymoon phase only lasts for so long, its always the same story, server gets trashed talked climbing the ranks … server feels pride and compliments, server still hasn’t lost but feels it can compete with t1, server overlooks just how big the gap is between a server like Mags and FA and a server like TC … and then the next gap between TC and t1 (both gaps are enormous). You won’t realize it, until you hit it, and until you feel it (I wont say lose). Then you’ll tire and weaken. The only wildcard though is … next week.

As its the final week, there are people who (although they won’t openly say it) are there because they believed they would get a silver yak. You may very well end in silver, but it’s looking likely you might end in gold. Next week is a big wildcard.

If you get pushed up enough to gold, and face a t1 server. While it will start out as fun, and you’ll feel proud for competing, you’ll notice just how much tiring it will be. And running like that for months on end does impact people in a very real life way. The attitudes and moods go south fast. If your in a battle where you almost always get crushed, it will get deflating no matter how positive and optimistic you are.

What I’m saying though, is while you may be all gung hoe, soldier boy next to ya has his own agenda’s. And SBI may be very close to hitting a very tough road. So long as ‘no one’ leaves … I would suspect you could give SoS a run for there money. If you hit a tough patch and people move to position themselves, it won’t be an enjoyable 2 months for non core players, and core players will tire. I wouldn’t want that to happen to any server, it has happened to many others.

Best of luck though, this upcoming week will be anything short of interesting.

Don’t know if the core will tire. For the first 5 months of this year, we pretty much came in 2nd or 3rd in every match, and the core was fine. Hell, we only would finish first every now and then this whole year, until we got the transfers.

Some of the transfers might very well leave. But, the core will stay. The core is used to getting spanked. Those few weeks of stomping ppl didn’t feel right. Was pretty boring for me. I enjoyed getting spanked (get some good fights that way) instead of doing the spanking.

selan.8354:

deathTouch.9706:

If SBI make it into gold league, they will implode as a server in a manner of weeks.

If they can’t break away from Mag this week even though they have a not-insignificant coverage advantage they will get spawnlocked by TC, let alone T1. Then the mass exodus will begin.

Apparently some SBI clans are saying people are transferring off the server already because of a “difficult” match this week. Really? Transferring off because the match is TOO balanced for you?

lol really? we havent even brought all our numbers. this week fa was on vacation as we all needed to relax a little after 6 weeks. many of us needed a break from the massive blobs and also we need to fix our moral a little after jq bought a big guild and a few guilds left to avoid that t1 massblobs smashing us. sbi will fall apart after 1 matchup with jq then for sure.
i mean sbi still portalbombs….try that vs a t1…XD

come on now, you are not on vacation. You lost some guilds, it has hurt your coverage, and you are losing the PPT because of that. We understand on SBI, we have been there before.

Valik Shin.9027:

They said before they were working on new maps but who knows how far they got

I wonder if the ruins additions counted as new maps?

Niim.9260:

Artaz.3819:

Here’s the thing… SBI is not going to make it to Gold League by the time Oct 18th happens short of a complete exodus by one of the upper 6 servers next week AND a really odd upwards roll of SBI getting a T1 fight (regardless of where SBI places in that fight). Sure, it could happen, but really will not and we’ll know by Friday server reset.

Another point, Mag will also be in Silver League and their only real competition is … SBI. Sure, there is always higher difficult server matchups so SBI and Mag can’t just take a break against the some of the harder weekly server match ups but really if you talk only in base coverage of people terms, there will be no other true population competition short of a mass ‘ninja’ transfer by a T1/T2 server (again, this likely won’t happen this season).

I actually see the winner of Mag vs. SBI as the go-to server for guaranteed rewards for the first WvW season (especially if the match up happens again next week) as oppose to T1 Gold/NA where it is not set in stone who will win (all top three have a solid chance and server draw/luck may actually determine who wins it all or as I like to put it, server pity by the #4 to #6 ranked servers).

For NA Silver League it’s either Mag or SBI and anyone who watches momentum of server placement can see its between these two servers. And both (besides the forum trollz here) have great communities and fairly decent WvW skillz despite the blob/zerg/lack of PPT-focus trolling in this thread.

But that is not to say that both sides could definitely improve their own game; there is a ton of mistakes and lack of coordination on both sides and sheer numbers does not compensate for lack of repeated map/objective/zerg-positioning attention.

There are no rewards worth weeks of boredom. Even if both SBI and Mags are stuck in silver, how often will they match-up compared to how often they will not be matched up.

Totally agree. The rewards for the season most likely will not be worth transferring to another server to get them.

Now, why would you want to transfer to upper silver anyways, if you want rewards and a better fight. Just drop to bronze.

Tetra Bug.7134:

Andrew Clear.1750:

Tetra Bug.7134:

SBI is scrunbs not even that good lamo pls zerg more

BAEST more like BAEST at dying on the server hahaha pls get better

See, this is the crap that annoys people. We were starting to have a classy time on the forums til Mr. Your Server Sucks Cause It Zergs had to say something about SBI for doing what every server does, including his precious MAG.

I wasn’t able to play tonight, cause of school, but it does seem that we held the PPT lead from around 11:30 am til around 8pm (EST) then FA and MAG started the double team of us, like on Monday night, and we dipped. Then, around 11:30 PM, I saw us climb back to the top spot, mainly cause it looks like FA lost its coverage around that time.

Since we have combated MAG on Tuesday, I think we will be fine. They will not overtake our 23k point lead during the week.

Looks like there won’t be much of a shift for that Gold league position though. FA might drop to 6th, and SoS take 5th. But, other than that, MAG will stay 7th, and we will pass DB (like anyone didn’t see that one coming).

lamo!!!! we beat u because we r not nerds that game all day i am busy with having a life u should try it!!! maybe do ur homeowrk instead of qqing over being beaten!!!

Apparently you didn’t read the post. I never complained about being beaten…

Just want to tell you that reading is fundamental

Too Frisky.9165:

Andrew Clear.1750:

Comprissent.3856:

Too Frisky.9165:

Say what you will about SBI but we have been and will always be a class act and here of late it’s been nice to see that in Fort Aspenwood as well. I wish I could say the same for Maguuma but your PvF is horrendous and your kitten in game is even worse. You can say PPT isn’t important and that is fine and all but we’re wiping larger zergs and winning important fights routinely.

On a side note my favorite fight this week had to have been last nights SM double team from FA and Mag where it took about 80 or so players 15 minutes to get about 25 SBI out of lords room. Even more humorous was that we revived the lord about 4 times lol.

larger zergs

Every SBI zerg has been larger than anything mag sized, minus k trains. There’s no way you actually think you’re right, is there?

You must not be participating in the same match up as the rest of us are. There have been plenty of times when mag had a bigger zerg than us, and even when they had a bigger zerg than FA.

Don’t be ashamed to admit that you have a good WvW population. EVERY SERVER ZERGS. It is WvW, not sPvP. You play WvW for the large battles, and you can’t have large battles without zergs.

I poked my head in on that fight last night, before heading back to Mag BL. Yeah, SBI was severely outmanned, and it did take awhile for SM to fall. Too bad I was too busy doing a failed attempt on your garrison, cause that SM fight was probably epic.

I don’t ever recall saying SBI didn’t zerg. EVERY server has a zerg and EVERY server says the enemy team always has larger zergs. It’s just an argument about how has the biggest kitten. All I was saying is that I enjoyed that large fight no matter how severely outnumbered we were. I don’t care if Mag runs a 60 man pain train because SBI has one as well I just find it annoying that Mag has to constantly point out that we zerg too much when in reality they do the EXACT same thing.

I was pointing that out to Comprissent as well. Although, Comprissent swears that MAG only has 20 man zergs, even though I have seen larger.

deathTouch.9706:

If SBI make it into gold league, they will implode as a server in a manner of weeks.

If they can’t break away from Mag this week even though they have a not-insignificant coverage advantage they will get spawnlocked by TC, let alone T1. Then the mass exodus will begin.

Apparently some SBI clans are saying people are transferring off the server already because of a “difficult” match this week. Really? Transferring off because the match is TOO balanced for you?

Dam deathTouch, is it just not enough that you are spewing this nonsense in our match up this week?

I’m sorry, but I have been on TS this week, and I can tell you that the guilds that transfered in are having fun in this matchup, even on Monday when MAG was killin us in NA Primetime.

The core sbi, pre transfer peeps, aren’t going to go anywhere. We love our sever, and have been with it even during our drop from tier 1 in Jan til now. Why do you think we would leave cause of getting rolled? Mag used to roll us every week earlier this year, and we didn’t care. We had fun, and tried our best.

We didn’t transfer after we took on DB during the summer, and got utterly spanked by them.

We didn’t transfer after those arrowcart lovin BP folks kept beating us.

We won’t transfer after JQ beats us either…..But it will be fun to run around and say “JQ spy” all the time, like the old days

Chris.3290:

SBI seems to be “mini-TC” in that they seem to have at least light coverage at all hours. I think they’ll match very well with SoS. For those on Mag who might scoff, we’ve expanded our NA a lot since our last matchup so I hope this happens next week if one of us gets sucked into Gold.

I wouldn’t mind Silver League if SBI were in it with us; but I’m pretty much convinced at this point that one of us is going to move up.

The only way I can see it working is if FA + Mag get T1 and SBI + SoS get TC.

I remember facing SoS alot, back before the random match ups were initiated. (the wonderful 10, 11, 12 days). I don’t know how SoS is now, but back then we did well against them in NA, but man, they would just own overnight when we didn’t have the numbers, and it was impossible to catch up.

Now, we have some numbers at night, so we can stop some of the bleeding, and we have more numbers in NA, so I would love to see how this would play out. Either way, it would be fun. And, would be nice to see SoS again, it has been a few months.

And, I can really tell Mag got those BP transfers. BP and their arrow cart fetish, I noticed that on MAG recently while in their BL…

Kvothe.1467:

I’m sure its been asked before, and I understand that this is something that would take a long time to create/implement, but it would be nice to know if this is something to look forward to in WvWs future. At least new BLs. Changes like the ruins is not what I’m talking about. I just want something completely different, maybe with a Crystal Desert feel to it or even Ring of Fire type of terrain.

Yeah, I would love to see new maps, maybe roll them out after each season, so we can have a nice variety.

That being said, it does take time to build these maps and test them. Takes money too, lots of it. I think the WvW team would have to really make a convincing argument to be able to get the money and resources (extra peeps) that it takes to make more WvW maps.

It is clear that PvE is where the money is at, so they need to prioritize that first. And, if anyone wants to argue that, just go around your own server, and see how many people are on, doing PvE related things. Then, look how many of them actually do WvW? It isn’t a huge percentage.

I’m not in a WvW guild, but I do run as a pug everyday in WvW (and, I am a smart pug that gets on TS, so I can listen to the commanders). I have over 30 active people in my guild, and maybe about 3 or 4 of us actually will WvW every week, and most of the guild doesn’t even enter WvW (or sPvP at that).

Pinko.2076:

I would be upset to be a night time player, have transferred to SBI, and then seen that the NA I hitched my wagon to was like this. SMH

Our NA is really that terrible, huh? You guys had 1 really good night against us, and now you think you are something.

A night player doesn’t mind the NA losing a few points. When I logged on last night, after studying, around 11:30 pm EST, we only had a 22k lead on you. Then we got it back up to 27k within 4 hours. We also had some good fights with MAG on your BL.

FA kept abandoning their BL for EB, so we kept taking their keeps and garrison. We only managed to take Bay from MAG, with some good leadership by ALK from Baest.

Was a fun night. I really wish we would’ve taken your garrison on the 2 tries I was there for.

Comprissent.3856:

Too Frisky.9165:

Say what you will about SBI but we have been and will always be a class act and here of late it’s been nice to see that in Fort Aspenwood as well. I wish I could say the same for Maguuma but your PvF is horrendous and your kitten in game is even worse. You can say PPT isn’t important and that is fine and all but we’re wiping larger zergs and winning important fights routinely.

On a side note my favorite fight this week had to have been last nights SM double team from FA and Mag where it took about 80 or so players 15 minutes to get about 25 SBI out of lords room. Even more humorous was that we revived the lord about 4 times lol.

larger zergs

Every SBI zerg has been larger than anything mag sized, minus k trains. There’s no way you actually think you’re right, is there?

You must not be participating in the same match up as the rest of us are. There have been plenty of times when mag had a bigger zerg than us, and even when they had a bigger zerg than FA.

Don’t be ashamed to admit that you have a good WvW population. EVERY SERVER ZERGS. It is WvW, not sPvP. You play WvW for the large battles, and you can’t have large battles without zergs.

I poked my head in on that fight last night, before heading back to Mag BL. Yeah, SBI was severely outmanned, and it did take awhile for SM to fall. Too bad I was too busy doing a failed attempt on your garrison, cause that SM fight was probably epic.

tokila.5324:

I don’t think SBI has capped anything all week without 40+ being present…… paper or not. Its just one blob, at least it is painfully easy to map read SBI.

Speculation right there. I have been in small groups of 12, capping stuff. We even capped a tower in your BL on Monday night, while you had a massive zerg killing our bigger zerg.

Oh, and, what about when we took our Garrison back on Monday night, and you had superior numbers. You had a guild inside, waiting on us, and we fought by the stairs, and then you had a 2nd guild flank us from the bottom of the stairs, and we still managed to wipe both, with a smaller squad. Was an awesome fight, and quit talking about how your server is so skilled.

If you were as good as you said you were, you would be painting all the BL’s blue during your weekday primetime. But you don’t. So shut up.

Tetra Bug.7134:

SBI is scrunbs not even that good lamo pls zerg more

BAEST more like BAEST at dying on the server hahaha pls get better

See, this is the crap that annoys people. We were starting to have a classy time on the forums til Mr. Your Server Sucks Cause It Zergs had to say something about SBI for doing what every server does, including his precious MAG.

I wasn’t able to play tonight, cause of school, but it does seem that we held the PPT lead from around 11:30 am til around 8pm (EST) then FA and MAG started the double team of us, like on Monday night, and we dipped. Then, around 11:30 PM, I saw us climb back to the top spot, mainly cause it looks like FA lost its coverage around that time.

Since we have combated MAG on Tuesday, I think we will be fine. They will not overtake our 23k point lead during the week.

Looks like there won’t be much of a shift for that Gold league position though. FA might drop to 6th, and SoS take 5th. But, other than that, MAG will stay 7th, and we will pass DB (like anyone didn’t see that one coming).

Evalana.5480:

Tots.3056:

Evalana.5480:

Really? You all need to go back to school and learn to count. Was more than 35. On the mag BL, there wasn’t much of this "running separately, that you are speaking of. We had 2 small zergs going, and after you wiped one, you ran and wiped the other. And there was about 60 in that zerg, easily.

Ark had 15 members on, INC had 20-25ish

15+20 = 35
15+25 = 40

Am I doing this right?

Both our guilds combined don’t even have 80 total on our respective rosters. Ark with 38, INC with less than 40 as well

I’ve heard this too many times at this point.

I love this excuse. Yes 15+15=40, congrats on doing math. However you don’t count the 15-20+ pugs with you as well. Do they not count? I don’t know if you run with commander tags or if mag pugs just instinctively run with guild groups they see. Either way they’re still people.

We run tagless, and maybe had 3 or 4 randoms with us (the others that may have been there were clearly not on ts with us because they insta died. They don’t count).

Of course, it’s only okay when YOU do it!

How am I doing?

Btw looking forward to our gvg tomorrow! (Or thurs, can’t remember which day we booked) ♥

Even though they aren’t in TS and died, they still count. Also, we don’t discount our numbers. Numbers wins WvW. Period. PPT = Numbers, not skill….And Mag had the most PPT last night, so what does that tell you.

BTW, it is nice to see Mag again. I remember the days when we had to fight every week, along with CD. Good times, even though you won all the time. Was always fun seeing who would win between CD and us during the week.

Comprissent.3856:

Andrew Clear.1750:

Lasaonar.9132:

Naztharius.7639:

nice attempt on your briar mag lol. sorry i had to nade your ballista.

It’s cool, we took your keeps so now we’re even.

We had your whole map last Friday night, so what is your point?

last Friday night

last Friday

Friday

Hi welcome to tuesday, where your bandwagon no longer carries your load any more

Yep, welcome to Tuesday. We will see what tonight holds, but as of now, we are winning in PPT, +360 to your +165. I thought you controlled the daytime PPT?

Comprissent.3856:

Jereme.1840:

Comprissent.3856:

More like 2k-3k. During peak hours on ONE day. ZOMFG we must be bad!

Mag holds daytime weekday ppt vs every server, just get used to it

But keep talking because at this point you’re just talking to talk.

Talking to talk, yet we’re backing it up with ppt lead. All sbi has done all week is chest thump over getting carried by their bandwagon across the weekend. If you even dare call us bad, let’s schedule some GvGs.

We’ll see what happens come later on this week

Hmmmmmm, every server you say? Maybe in silver league.

I don’t understand why PPT is so important either when 90% of your post reflect that it clearly isn’t, yet you chest thump about leading PPT. The irony!

Not trolling you, I just don’t see the point/logic in either statement. You may ask yourself why am I posting here, Well I still find the “broken record” PVF humorous.

It’s fun when you can debunk enemy server’s ppt logic AND call them bad

And yes, we hold ppt lead daytime during the week. We did it to JQ, you can bet we would do it to yours as well

edit* wtf, i wake up and we hold ppt lead AND stonemist? SBI must be lacking coverage badly

We have jobs, yo