Guild Wars 2

Basedgod.7328:

I emote dead solo roamers all the time, especially ones that have full stacks that I get rid of. Because it tends to annoy people for whatever reason, when it really shouldn’t.

There are tools within the game for those that are sensitive to videogame emotes after getting killed. If you have the time to take screenshots, upload them and post on these forums (to what serves no purpose), you may as well take the time to turn emotes off.

That goes to say that I dont disrespect solo roamers at all. It’s something I personally enjoy. I get ganked, emote’d, get nasty party invites alot roaming as a glass elementalist. Just grow some thick skin instead of question an opponent’s worth with a petty screenshot of /sit spam.

My advice to Solo roamers though, if you can get in, head to the EB JP and roam/pick fights there, it’s picked up more activity as of late. No large zergs to deal with, no inflated players with stacks, no NPCs to interfere, no walls to hide behind and lots of achievement hunters to kill.

I think it depends on the emote. I use emotes, but it is saluting the dead, or bowing, because I appreciate their effort.

Favorable schedule doesn’t mean anything, if you are not beating them in a head to head match up.

There isn’t enough teams in a league that would justify a playoff.

Carize.8532:

@Hravan -I agree with a large part of your post. While I think that anybody should be and IS welcome in WvW, it was rather ridiculous of ANet to not think this through and have perhaps a Pre-Season Achievment to let hardcore PvE’ers get their toes wet before the real fights kicked off.

Having to deal with newcomers learning the ropes, a Halloween event LS, and a 40% sale on the game on the very same time that Season 1 opened is just poor planning. If they saw the kinds of ridiculous overflows that Scarlet Events and Tequatl living stories led to on the open world parts of PvE servers, why didn’t they expect and make plans for the kinds of global skill and gameplay lag that is occurring in GW2 from this perfect storm of content?

WvW has already got rigidly defined player caps per map and has NO wiggle room for shenanigans like this. To taunt us with the upcoming queue-free WvW map at the same time that they serve up a LS patch focused on WvW is just asking for what we’ve gotten….meltdowns, practically.

I don’t think WvW is being destroyed, but I definitely think that this whole first week of Leagues was pretty much knee-capped by the ‘Lack of Planning dept.’.

Why is it only t1 people doing the complaining?

Since you were on JQ since start, did you cry about the queues for WvW then? I know we had queues on SBI in those days.

It is what it is. Some servers in t1 didn’t just have guilds move to them by chance, but they actively recruited them. This has lead to the problems that you are complaining about, not anything Anet did.

Most of the servers are actually enjoying having the new blood, and maybe some old blood who has returned. T1, you are in the minority.

gennyt.3428:

People don’t defend because it’s an uphill fight to nowhere.

1. Most attackers don’t try unless they can blod the structure down or take it practically undefended*. Plus siege gets stronger and structures do not. It’s a kittening joke.

2. Due to the scoreboard being totally dependent on numbers, PPT is and will a joke to many players.

3. Anet added a nice little power creep, now people want ranks and ascended mats. See point 2.

And this is why people don’t give a kitten about defending.

Except, good siege placement can help defend against superior numbers.

Now that it is a competitive league, PPT means something. And, if you want to get those points, then you better learn to defend. When SBI stormed FA’s bay tonight, with 70 people, do you think we didn’t meet resistence? Hell yeah, FA was heavily guarding their keep, with siege and about 70 to 90 people of their own.

And, defending leads to epic fights. I’m sure the players on FA who participated in that defense, will not say that it was boring.

Cynz.9437:

Andrew Clear.1750:

Cynz.9437:

GrandmaFunk.3052:

XenusTEHG.1965:

I cant participate in WvW and do something good for my server because my free spot is occupied be useless, achievement farming kittens.

You don’t deserve the “spot” any more than anyone else does.

do you really believe so?

i would rather have half skilled person who knows what is wvw about that clueless pve’er mindlessly farming archives, wasting supplies, dropping random sieg etc.

Everyone bought this game, so everyone deserves the same chance at getting into wvw. PERIOD.

could say same about tequatl…but hey, anet was fast on fixing cannon issue

but anet didn’t tell people they couldn’t participate in Teq battles because they haven’t had enough experience fighting world bosses.

Hvaran.6327:

I agrre with TS. And i hate when people write walls of text, so sorry from the brginning for that. First time i got kitten ed of totally by Devs choice.

Anet u screwed totally, with match-ups andkittenACHIVMENTS…i don’t have an idea how u can fix it.

But the problem is not only on my server, it’s eveywhere. Wins those server who can bring more wvw players on borderlands or battlegrounds but not that is really better.

I whant to play with and against expirienced wvw players on WVW. If it was like 70% of regular wvw players and 30% those kittenheads it would be OK, but they just enetring it first time and staying there for hours without any understanding of how wvw works.

If u will have 2/5 players in your party in hard dungeon without expirience u will suffer from it by making it longer or totally failing. For wvw it doesn’t make it longer it makes it first: less fun second: u loose faster.

I know that each server it’s not only regular wvw players, but why the kitten u needed to add those kitteny achivments on start of the league and hardest match-ups in EU? Or u don’t know that at least 70% of players it’s brainless achivment hunters that don’t whanna have fun, they whant that kittening achiment points, that means totally NOTHING! That means they playing games for those numbers in the list but not to have a good time.

Make another achivment – “I was a kitten for my server on WVW” – 5000 AP, maybe that way they can succed faster in AP hunting and go away from the gameplay type that they don’t like.

Could u implement it 2 months earlier? So people could actually learn how to play it and if they liked it they stayed and started to cooperate wisely, but no u need causal players to try FIRST TIME WvW ON THEkittenleague.

Please put more recoures in WvW then u have now, cause this gameplay type got HUGE potential.

I bet if the ideas that you just presented, were in effect when you started playing WvW, you would’ve came straight to the forums and posted how much you hated them.

Everyone starts as a newb in WvW. Everyone has the right to play WvW. You are from a t1 server, so I can see why you are complaining, but, as I have stated in other posts, the VAST MAJORITY of people who play WvW are not on a t1 server.

So, why should anet please the minority of players on t1 at the expanse of the majority on all the other tiers? Sounds like a bad business decision. You can’t please everyone, so the best course of action is to please the maximum amount of people that you can.

cobracommander.5861:

SBI’s ppt is sky high right now, I knew these guys weren’t done yet. playin for keeps! nice!

And we need it to be sky high. I just want to know if we are going to be able to handle DB’s oceanic presence today. Yesterday, they crushed us, and that crushing caused us to drop 6k more behind FA. If we can nullify that today, we might have a good chance of pulling this out.

caljay.8720:

Ceres.4569:

caljay.8720:

Stay classy FA, nice to see this is how you react when you kill one person

there was a FA group spamming sit on SBI BL too. I don’t even think they killed anything.

er.. wait. just noticed that is SBI BL. yeah, that group was just running around emote spamming

Its nice to see that 15-20 man group is sooo proud of killing solo roamers

Well, what the lack in skill, that make up for in emoting.

Reverence.6915:

Oceanic/SEA/early EU time zone player from Blackgate here. Having an influx of players during that time is kitten great. Even so, we still have 1 or 2 unqueued maps during those times. It’s been pretty fun showing PvE players how to WvW – what gear to build, which skills to use when, what siege is for, what scouting is, introducing them to the teamspeak server etc.

That is the spirit. I also think you speak for the majority of WvW players, not the few who think they are God’s gift to WvW.

KeeZee.7312:

Watching the new players repairing walls while still being trebbed is good for WvW. Then there will be no supply making it easier to flip and get more achievements.

Well, gotta get them some experience so they aren’t newbs anymore. BTW, this crap happened even before leagues. Help them get better, quit acting like you weren’t a newb once.

gimmethegepgun.1284:

Actinotus.6410:

WvW is being destroyed because lots of people are playing WvW?

No, it’s being destroyed because lots of people are in the WvW maps but not playing WvW.

No, they are playing. They just aren’t playing your way, and that is why you guys are crying.

Yes, a lot of them don’t follow commanders. Yes, a lot of them are capping bloodlust points, killing guards, taking camps, etc, without any organization with the rest of WvW.

Who cares. Every little bit helps, and in some cases, it can help your server.

The JP issue does blow. The AFK issue at spawn really blows, but that has been there ever since the game has been live.

This season, and achievements, have made WvW better, in my opinion. The more the better.

Carize.8532:

Actinotus.6410:

Carize.8532:

Hule.8794:

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We in bronze are laughting about queues in T1 and about your whining

I’ve been on Jade Quarry since this game opened and I’ve had queues before, no doubt. But these queues are longer, and less likely to let you into WvW than I’ve ever experienced. So I’m on a Tier 1 server, I deserve what I get? That’s the way you behave while expecting others to have sympathy for your supposed plight of getting facerolled each time your 4 man guild steps out of spawn?

Go on and keep laughing. We don’t mind. Stay jealous of the fact that other servers might have wait times….but we also have fights. Not just tumbleweeds blowing across the sad, dusty, deserted borderlands like you so self-righteous Tier-Who-Cares, No-One-Pays-You-Any-Attention servers.

You can’t have fights if you’re in a queue…

…and we’re not jealous.

I’m happy to hear that. However since I was replying to the person from RoF who thought it was wise to make a gloating, snarky OP, I’m at a loss as to why you felt a need to inform me. Protesting too much, I think.
My remarks weren’t directed toward you, but if it stings that much… /shrug

I sure don’t pity you. On SBI, we had a queue on all of our borderlands tonight, for awhile. Oh well, you learn to live with it. But, it wasn’t a really long one, and didn’t impact us as much. We ended up getting Beast and Abyss on FA BL during that time.

I don’t know which BL Core went to, for FA. But we can understand how you guys feel. Been good fighting you guys this week.

Luiz Swordbreaker.6547:

Chicho Gosho.6507:

Also this is the biggest WvW patch in what, 6 months? More? Of course people are going to play it. But it’s only the second day of the patch and you’re overreacting a lot.
I think after a couple of days it’ll get better. What do you think?

This is not the biggest WvW patch in 6 months, not in 1 month either, simply because it didn’t change WvW at all except for adding achievements and changing the matchup system

The wvw season is a great step in the right direction. You have an incentive to finish 1st and second now. None of this “Oh lets just focus on fights,” mentality.

I honestly can’t tell if you’re trolling, but I hope you are. “We gotta switch focus from playing because it’s fun to playing to get a reward”… really?

No trolling here. You are in a league, this is competition. 5 points, 3 points, 1 point. There is a big difference between 3 points and 1 point, during the course of a season.

If you are going to just run around and focus on fights, then you are gonna lose, plain and simple. You have to have ppt, and points to win.

You might want to focus on fights and cost your server victory, but not everybody does.

And, if 2v1 is done right, upsets can happen.

Killface.1896:

Suggestion for sesson two:

Make some sort of pve season(dungeon,world boss´s)start at same time as WvW season.

Need to beat all dungeon+with hard achievements inside them this would make all PvErs busy and happy and not join WvW at the start of the season

if you did that, a lot of your wvw coverage will be gone too. A lot of people who participate in WvW also participate in PvE.

Cynz.9437:

GrandmaFunk.3052:

XenusTEHG.1965:

I cant participate in WvW and do something good for my server because my free spot is occupied be useless, achievement farming kittens.

You don’t deserve the “spot” any more than anyone else does.

do you really believe so?

i would rather have half skilled person who knows what is wvw about that clueless pve’er mindlessly farming archives, wasting supplies, dropping random sieg etc.

Everyone bought this game, so everyone deserves the same chance at getting into wvw. PERIOD.

Gd Anubis.4951:

Andrew Clear.1750:

Aaron.4807:

Rama.6439:

Deli.1302:

Blame all the guilds that transferred to your server over the past couple of weeks, not anet.

why, those guilds didn’t put the pve achievements into wvw, anet did, and anet made transfers cheap and even free for those weeks before season started. So no, I blame Anet.

I have been on SOR since day one. I have been playing wvw since day one, I took a month or two break december-january. I have been on SOR since Leader Mara was zerging, before TW transferred and CDS was still dominant. We were dead last and rose to tier one and I was there for it. Now I can’t even frigging play wvw at all.

Anet is destroying wvw. gg.

Anet isn’t destroying WvW. The players are.

People transferring on and off servers has been happening for a long time now, and it has fractured communites, built up other communites, all the while the top 3 servers complain about life at the top, and they don’t even know what real life is in WvW.

All of us, non t1 servers, aren’t really complaining too much, except that the achievement hoarders are really bad and destroying our organization. But, you know, some of them are good. Some of them are trying, and maybe they might start playing WvW more.

Anet is helping the game with this, more than hurting it in my eyes.

Well here’s how I see it. If they wan’t to help out WvW, don’t punish the ones currently doing it. Make everyone pay to get into the Season Tournys for WvW with Badges of Honors. Make them of some use at least. I’d say 2-3k badges would be a good amount of badges to start off to gain entrance to the season. It would be placed in the same map, but those that have gained access will get the achievements. It will make the PvE’rs do WvW so they can participate in the future seasons as well as learn the concepts of the game.

But then that splits the community. What kind of coverage does a server have if they have 2 different WvW matches running at the same time? Sure, this would be good for t1 servers, but the VAST MAJORITY of people who participate in WvW are not on a t1 server.

Anet needs to address non t1 servers more than t1 servers, if they want to keep WvW around.

I had one half, opened the chest…but no achievement.

Sirendor.1394:

Torgrim.3642:

I’m on OP on this, WvW has gotten very shallow and boring, commanders are running round capping tower——-caping camp——capping tower——-capping camp——-losing tower——-losing camp——-losing tower—-losing camp and the cycle starts all over again.
So these lemming blobs running around a big circle capping loosing capping loosing.

I mean I thought people played for the PVP not PVE, but sadly these armchairs generals do play it for the PVE, its all about the chest in the end, screw defending let em have the tower we recap it in 10min so we get our shinies.

That’s something I can agree with. BUT, some people still play it with tactic instead of blunt old blob power. It’s amazing to choke a blob with a small group of players and getting away with it.

Some servers tactics are the blob power, some are balanced, and some are defensive. To each their own.

Zephyrus.9680:

Would be good if PPT and rewards were based on upgrades. But you can always move to a server that likes to defend. Mag certainly does and I think FA too. Not sure who else.

I know Mag, FA, SBI, BP do defend. Mag is the best defensive server I ever played against.

Lord Kuru.3685:

butch.8136:

They’re fixing the queue system and bringing in an overflow map early next year. They’re working on it.

After all this time, Anet manages to disincentivize stacking into T1 — and then they have to go a screw it all up with this overflow map idea. One step forward, two steps back.

Except, the overflow does nothing to help your sever, and you will still be in the queue for a long time in order to get into real WvW.

who knows, the overflow might just turn out to be pve, in the long run. Who knows how much figthing will occur till it is tested.

The leagues have been awesome so far. Epic fights, some close match ups, and servers actually trying to succeed. Sure, they are a few idiots, but they are on all the servers, not just yours.

Mattargul.9235:

I had one open for me without a key set. Is there some truth to the tale that you can open the chests even without a key if it had just been opened before? Anyway, didn’t count for the achievement and now I had to wait 24hrs for chest reset, so sucks to be me.

I had 1 piece of the key. It opened for me, but I did not get the achievement.

dooger.2640:

We are now at a new low now with these monster queues just to get the the autoattack lag fest.

trying to push pve, and/or transform wvw into a battleground is either an amazing lack of insight, or a desperate attempt to get an “esport” going. its obviously not gonna happen in spvp.

If you want to make an esport, make new instanced battlegrounds for real world toons, and keep it out of wvw.

people would loved instanced pvp for their real toons, vs the who cares mode of spvp zzzzzz

The lag isn’t there 24/7.

Seriously people, quit QQing all the time about everything.

The lag blows, I know it does, but it isn’t present at all times. The queues blow, but unless you are t1, you can get in. Maybe not on the map you want, right away, but there is a map available.

Aaron.4807:

Draygo.9473:

I’m on a server with no queues. You can transfer to a server with no queues as well.

What about those players that actually give a kitten about their community and built is from the ground up over the course of a year? Like SoR? Telling people to transfer so they can play the game mode that was the REASON WE BOUGHT THIS GAME IN THE FIRST PLACE is not a valid argument.

Hmm, hasn’t SoR recieved transfers over the past year to get the numbers to get into t1? I know you didn’t get there with the numbers from day 1.

Anyways, there are more WvW players who actually play outside of a t1 server. These servers have been negatively impacted by your server (and even my server has impacted them (SBI)), so don’t expect them to have much sympathy for you guys.

There are a lot of former SBI players on SoR, and I do feel sorry that they can’t play.

KeeZee.7312:

style.6173:

That’s like saying I shouldn’t be allowed to do a PvE event because I spend most of my time in WvW. The OP’s comment is elitest and just wrong.

Everyone should have known that queues would be long for this league. It wasn’t hard to figure out. So many people instead bandwagoned to higher tier servers. They get what they deserve. The queues are not bad at all on the lower tiers.

The long queues are not caused just by people moving to the servers in Gold league. Everyone knew days before it went live what the queues were. People didn’t all move there just on Thursday the day before.

They queues have doubled/tripled due to the influx of PvE players looking for achievements.

BUT YOU KNEW THAT WAS GOING TO HAPPEN.

GrandmaFunk.3052:

I’m a WvW player. I’m also a PvE player… and a sPvP player.

Being a WvW player, I’m also aware that an unfortunately large portion of WvW-focused players have declared quite frequently that they refuse to participate in ppt/scoring, that they consider GvG and/or ganking to be their only goals and that “only noob PVEers care about ppt”

so maybe don’t be so quick to segregate everyone, give the players newly joining WvW a chance to learn the ropes and some of them might just discover they have a taste for the gameplay.

and with how the leagues are scored, if you don’t care about ppt, you will finish last, no matter what your population is.

PPT is king now. No more of that crappy, “if we get a good draw, we can gain points” crap.

Sharpoon.8197:

Fomby.4295:

The Baws.5164:

It’s not the fact that they’re being over-populated due to them being T1 or the Season, it’s the Achievement-Hunters from PvE.

Even Tier 4 servers are getting it.

Doubtful. As of about an hour ago, Maguuma had 1 map queued, the others were open.

On subject. Sure give them free transfers to bronze league, but don’t give them free transfers back. They knew this was coming, for the most part.

Look at what time it is. Of course T4 servers won’t queue maps at this time of day but once prime time hits they will. I’ve heard servers as low down as HoD have been queuing maps. Lots of achievement hunters out there.

On sbi (you know, the one you say is the major bandwagon now), we only have 2 maps queued during primetime…maybe for a brief 2nd a third. People can get in. We only had a problem on reset night.

Torgrim.3642:

Sadly is that WvW is all about flipping and lemming trains, Is that really fun, no not really but the rewards give people the reason to follow that armchair general.

Why don’t commander players defend and actually command, noooo, its all about flipping, killing npcs lords just to earn those few points, a real commader defend what he capped, read what happens and attack or defend depends whats going on, instead the lemming train of 50+ go for a sup camp and 15min later the tower thew just capped is lost.

Flipping is a good tactic sometimes but come on, flipping is THE tactic now and sadly it kills WvW in the long run.

Leading a lemming train capping towers and camps defended with NPCs dont make you a good commander, a good commander defend what he capped AGAINST other players AND make a counter attack and hopelfully cap another tower/camp.

SBI, FA, and DB have been defending all their crap, the best they can. Commanders drop what they are doing to go defend their stuff. I even participated in several epic tower battles cause it was one zerg attacking, another defending.

Your server might have commanders that don’t believe in defense, but not all servers are that way.

Look at Mag, they defend their stuff very well. BP also is great at defending their stuff (or was when we played them). SoS defends the crap out of their garrison.

I think more people actually defend, than don’t defend.

Junkpile.7439:

I think that everybody have figure out that whole league is just smoke screen try to hide fact that www is still same kitten. League doesn’t make me work harder or give me more motivation to play. WWW is just weird mess where casual and hardcore players run around and rage eachother because nobody actually don’t know what is point of whole kitten and how it should be played.

The wvw season is a great step in the right direction. You have an incentive to finish 1st and second now. None of this “Oh lets just focus on fights,” mentality.

Also, it has brought more people into the mix, whether good or bad, and as well as given old timers stuff to do, and actual achievements that can be achieved before 2032.

Getting everyone organized will be a task, but it is doable. The only people I can really see having a bad time with the season, are the t1 servers, since it is hard for them to even get to play.

I think we all need to give it a chance. The season is gonna happen, let it play out, and then near the end of it leave some feedback so anet can adjust it’s future wvw policies. Quit the knee jerk reactions, they don’t benefit anyone.

sostronk.8167:

All Ive seen so far is entire maps being wrecked because one server or another has too many PvE players who are only there to get achievements and won’t join teamspeak or work as a team or do the simplest of tasks that WvW players do frequently. Sure, this might be an opportunity to engage some of these players, but chances are they will just do what PvErs do and go farm other content once its over and anet hangs another carrot on a string.

I understand that. But, you know, if you get that bloodlust and stomp the crap out of those players, you could nullify the ppt disadvantage. Problem is, people are just killing the downed instead.

All those lost points.

gimmethegepgun.1284:

Andrew Clear.1750:

Not one of you were complaining about the fact they achievements were being added to the season, when the leagues were announced.

Maybe because people didn’t know that they were going to be throwing in the JP achievements.
The ones for actually playing WvW aren’t the problem, and may well lead to more people playing WvW in the first place. But the JP ones do nothing but clog the BLs with people who aren’t interested in playing WvW.

I know that. I did actually complain about the JP one as well. JPs should get their own map, just like the EB one did.

I know that our BL is getting shredded this weekend, because of that crap. Full que in SBI BL, and our zerg is so small….lol

Aaron.4807:

Rama.6439:

Deli.1302:

Blame all the guilds that transferred to your server over the past couple of weeks, not anet.

why, those guilds didn’t put the pve achievements into wvw, anet did, and anet made transfers cheap and even free for those weeks before season started. So no, I blame Anet.

I have been on SOR since day one. I have been playing wvw since day one, I took a month or two break december-january. I have been on SOR since Leader Mara was zerging, before TW transferred and CDS was still dominant. We were dead last and rose to tier one and I was there for it. Now I can’t even frigging play wvw at all.

Anet is destroying wvw. gg.

Anet isn’t destroying WvW. The players are.

People transferring on and off servers has been happening for a long time now, and it has fractured communites, built up other communites, all the while the top 3 servers complain about life at the top, and they don’t even know what real life is in WvW.

All of us, non t1 servers, aren’t really complaining too much, except that the achievement hoarders are really bad and destroying our organization. But, you know, some of them are good. Some of them are trying, and maybe they might start playing WvW more.

Anet is helping the game with this, more than hurting it in my eyes.

KeeZee.7312:

Caroline.4987:

You knew what queues WERE like. There’s your problem. You assumed queues are going to be the same forever. A little forward thinking would have told you that WvW Season 1 was going to ratchet up the queues.

Oh c’mon. You guys up in T1 country were even WARNED. Devon himself posted it, and you guys were like “Oh, queues aren’t like that. Don’t overstate it. You don’t know your own game. Your numbers are wrong. Come, keep stacking our server! The queues are a myth!”

Did nobody up there actually stop to calculate that for the few hundred, to maybe couple thousand WvW players a server has, even the most WvW loaded server in NA like SoR, they have four to six times as many PvErs, and realized the T1 queue times would be made four to six times worse because of that?

Maybe next time a dev says something on the forums, actually listen instead of just bashing him.

So what you are saying is the people in T1 who have been playing WvW since it went live a year ago are getting what they deserve for playing WvW all this time?

Ya, they should all move down to the empty servers so they can PvDoor to their hearts content. Maybe every once in awhile they will actually be able to fight someone.

I don’t want to hear this “been here since the game went live over a year ago” crap. Let’s be honest here. Some of the WvW players have been there that long. A lot of the wvw players from when the game went live, do not even play GW2 anymore. And, a lot of the guilds and players on these t1 servers transferred in within the last year. JQ has had a ton of people transfer in and out. SBI lost a ton to other servers, and then they eventually transferred to t1 servers.

Seriously, t1 servers have done this to themselves. Us non elite…I mean…less coverage servers, from TC down to AR, knew what was gonna happen when leagues started.

For most of our servers, the people seeking achievements will be finished with them in a few weeks. I doubt that will be the case for t1, so you guys are gonna have one crappy season.

Rama.6439:

Deli.1302:

Blame all the guilds that transferred to your server over the past couple of weeks, not anet.

why, those guilds didn’t put the pve achievements into wvw, anet did, and anet made transfers cheap and even free for those weeks before season started. So no, I blame Anet.

Not one of you were complaining about the fact they achievements were being added to the season, when the leagues were announced.

And, by far, the outcry is coming from the stacked servers, who “recruited” more guilds to come to their servers for the leagues.

Shouldn’t have recruited then. Should’ve complained about achievements before now, instead of complaining that there were 2 leagues…and then complaining that t1 didn’t get their own elite league.

Seriously, I like the achievements, even though I had a 3 hour queue on reset night. Since then, I have gotten to play on my “Bandwagon” server.

Pinko.2076:

Good showing FA. I believe in you!!!!!

They do have a good showing, but I wonder how it will be when their NA’s can’t put in as much time over night as they are on the weekend. Same goes for ours too. But, I do remember in that match up with FA a few weeks back, Mag and SBI were eating FA’s BL for lunch during the day.

LonePanda.9283:

The scoreboard is the way it is because:
In SBI’s case, you have numbers caused by transfers, but less skill and poor organization, 90% of encounters I’ve had with your zergs have resulted in you wiping quickly.

In FA’s case, it’s because of numbers, skill, and organization, you guys bring an amazing fight every time we face you, keep it up!

wtf. The sbi zergs I have been in all weekend have been wiping both FA and DB when we have come across them.

Sadly, I have no idea what is going on in our own BL. But we really need to get that under control.

Noobix.3958:

This is to all the people kittening and whining about long queue times and those kitten ed achievement whorin’ PvEers taking up valuable spots for more pro, more deserving, more elite hardcore WvWers.

Please take a second to think for a minute about the opportunity that has been presented to the WvW gamemode and community here. Arenanet have provided us with an unprecedented influx of new players. This will rejuvinate WvW on lower tier servers like nothing before. It is now up to YOU, yes, YOU to mentor these players and ‘convert’ them into WvW players. Help them see the beauty of the finest part of the game. Teach them. ‘This is why we dont take supply from towers, these are fire fields and these are the skills you need to use to ’blast’ them.’ Dont berate them in mapchat for grinding camp guards doing JPs etc etc.

Suffer the lag for now. Suffer the huge queues for now. Once everything dies down in a week or two it will all be worth it. I guarantee every server will have a noticably larger WvW playerbase after this league. The key will be which servers that gain the most.

Raise them up, so they can transfer to a t1 server in the future…..

Asudementio.8526:

XacTactX.6709:

WvW Season 1 is going to run for 7 weeks, or 49 days. This means we have to get one world rank every day for 7 weeks. The only people who will be able to attain this are regular WvWers, the same ones who are in dedicated WvW guilds. Please be a bit more reasonable with how much gameplay is required, 10 or 20 WXP ranks would be fine, 50 is overboard.

This is from the perspective of a casual WvW player, I have rank 30 on my Guardian and probably rank 50 or so across all my characters. I enjoy WvW a lot and it’s fun to strategize on voice chat (especially in small havoc teams) but I don’t know if I’m hardcore enough for this. ):

50 ranks is nothing for a 7 week period. I have also seen an increase drop rate of liquid wxp. I think 50 is a sufficient threshold to distinguish dedicated WvWers with the more casual players being excluded from the seasonal rewards. Though i will agree that there will be those who fall in between the cracks.

I agree with this. Plus, the achievements seem to be designed for the non hardcore wvw players. Anet is trying to get them to be more active in wvw, and making the achievements sort of grindy for the average person, will ensure that IF they want to get those achievements, they will need to participate in wvw on a regular basis.

They should sepearate the jumping puzzles, because that can really bring down the size of the servers fighting force.

Other than that, pve and wvw players can co-habitate, and have been since launch. Not every wvw player only plays wvw.

DB, FA, and SBI have been defending their keeps. At times, we have been putting up crazy defense for towers.

Guess, sometimes people don’t run the karma train.

Well, sounds like you really need to transfer off your stacked server. On SBI, we had queues on EB, and our BL most the day. We also queued FA BL for a short time. Reset was the only night we had crazy queues.

And no, don’t remove the AP. People have been asking for a reason for people to keep playing when they are getting beat, and so now they have AP to work for. Plus, the wvw ap takes forever to get, atleast now we have something we can actually achieve.

T1 servers should’ve thought about this situation, before they started recruiting, and in some cases, buying guilds to help them compete during the leagues. Everyone knew there was gonna be achievements tied to the leagues, ever since they were announced.

Quit complaining about queues. They are adding that map, and it will be here the beginning of next year. Until then, you have to suck it up, transfer, or don’t play wvw.

Pinko.2076:

Andrew Clear.1750:

Wow, FA has a lot of transfers these past 2 weeks. You have a night shift tonight that is as big, if not bigger, as SoR’s zergs last saturday.

I see where all the people who wanted 1st in silver went to

We didn’t get that last minute stacking on SBI that people thought we would. Probably because no one knew if we would be gold or not.

Fun fights with FA today.

What guilds did FA get other than [CORE] in the last week?

They have crazy coverage now. They are gonna get this match up it seems. We really need to focus more on PPT then just fights, if we want to win.

But, we have had some fun fights, and we held FA’s hills almost all day, against superior numbers a lot of the time. Was fun.

Wow, FA has a lot of transfers these past 2 weeks. You have a night shift tonight that is as big, if not bigger, as SoR’s zergs last saturday.

I see where all the people who wanted 1st in silver went to

We didn’t get that last minute stacking on SBI that people thought we would. Probably because no one knew if we would be gold or not.

Fun fights with FA today.

Varonth.5830:

Vael Victus.2654:

WvW will never be balanced, and that’s a good thing. It is a war, and war isn’t fair. I do wish there was some kind of 1v1 dueling system in place so we could have balanced duels, though. Some day, I’m sure. Along with Polymock.

Also: your opinion is humorously wrong, Xae.

Actually you are wrong.
This isn’t war. This is a game.
The most important rule for any game is: “The game must be fun to play.”

Is it fun to get roflstomp or to roflstomp enemies, which will never stand a chance to win? Nope it isn’t.

Yes, it is a game…but the game mode is supposed to simulate a war between 3 opposing sides.

And, do you think it is fun, to be a low ranked college football team and getting spanked every saturday? Well, they go out there and play every saturday, because they think that the game is fun (and of course, playing pays for their schooling).

Pull a name out of a hat. No matter what, you will have fun on any of these servers. After facing them all, at one time or another, they are all pretty good peeps.

Eliandal.8735:

T2 as well – but I think they’re broken. A guildie zipped right into EBG just after I entered the queue (which I remained in for about 35 minutes)

I was in que for our BL (SBI BL) for 2 hours last night, when I heard someone on teamspeak say they just got in after 10 minutes. I was so ticked off. I requeued like he did and no dice. So, I finally queued for DB BL, and got in after 20 minutes. Then queued for SBI BL, and eventually got in.

But, it is reset night.

now, SBI BL being queued around 1:30 pm est time on saturday, isn’t normal. kitten , jumping puzzles.

Ikaros.7219:

no i dont mean in wvw. i mean in the obsidian sanctum. usually i just ignore other players in there but when people are camping in there just to get kills.. i just dont think its cool is all.

Well, obsidian sanctum is considered WvW. Remember, it used to be part of EB, until they moved it to its own zone so more people could actually fight in EB.

So, people who play WvW will go in there, and they will kill people. So, my advice is to bring some friends

I just have to say that the league seems to be off to a good start. A lot of close matches during reset. Wonder if that could be sustained over the week.

The queue does blow, and I’m on SBI. I can only imagine what t1 servers are going through.

I am eager to see how the leagues play out, with actual points that you earn for where you place. I think that is better than the crappy ranking system they had before.

Artaz.3819:

SBI has the biggest target on their head (except maybe FA and DB hey, who doesn’t want a little revenge on a pre-T2 server) in Silver League. It will be anything but PvD in WvW for the next 7 weeks when 2v1 happens probably every opening weekend against SBI.

Looking forward to it

2v1 sure did happen too. Was awesome to defend against it, when I finally got in after that very…very…long queue.

Nick.6972:

I feel sad for DB. They used to be … well… you know.

They had some serious numbers over night.

Now, I just wanna say that this was a great start to the season. FA, way to get off to a hot start. DB, you started slow, but your overnight presence is good. SBI, my boys, way to keep fighting and closing the gap with FA.

Had some good fights, especially the 3 way in FA BL around 5 am est time.

Hope the rest of the week is just as good.