Guild Wars 2

Interesting build.
Both options are more or less the same. In domination phantasms have +100 power and +15% damage. In duel, they get +24% of critical chance and +10% critical damage.

I’ve looked in gear and I think if you want more damage you can change all the emerald jewels for rubys ones. You will lose 90 toughness (even 2810 is a lot of defense) and 2% of critical chance, but instead you will win +60 in power and +18% in critical damage.

CD reduction really stacks, even if the descriptions don’t show it, so for 3, 4 and 5 sword skills you will have 40% less cd. Also you will have blurred frenzy every 8s. It’s up to you, if you prefer a quicker spamming build or just stronger phantasms.

As I said, don’t take it serious. I put Divinity cause it’s what I use in my PvE set. It gives you all rounded stats and best crit damage., but they are also the most expensive ones xd

PD: Also, if you’re running dual sword, think about trying blade training for phantasmal fury, and choose what you most like.

As Osicat said, you’re obsessed with healing. Mesmer is a class that is made more to prevent the damage than recovering from them. That’s why we have skills like blink, decoy, blurred frenzy, distortion, perma vigor, mass invisibility, phase retreat…
All this skills bring us the possibility to avoid damage.

If you want regeneration through phantasms you need to spend 5 more points, so you need to get rid of one trait of other lines, so is a bad choice. Think what I said before “balance the aspects that are worst, but always only if the don’t affect the main aspects of your build”.

For blink explanation, I think Osicat said all is need to be said xd

About Mirror images, is a burst shatter skill, and you don’t need in pve, since it’s mainly based in constant dps, not burst. With Deceptive evasion you can supply Mirror images perfectly, so you don’t need it.

And finally, you did the maths wrong in healing calculation xd
In my build, mantra of recovering has 10s of cd, but also has 2.75s of casting. So it’s not true that heals +10000 in the same time that ether cast. Note that between mantra’s activation, there’s also a 1s of cd, so ether feast casting time is neutralized.
But there’s another more important thing. In PvE you don’t need to worry too much about healing, because mobs don’t have a big constant dps. So it’s better to have a big instant healing (ether feast), if a lot of mobs attack you or you’re dealing a boss, than a more constant healing (mantra).
For your information, I get used to go with mirror as my healing skill, I have no problems in PvE and it’s the worst healing skill.

Unfortunately, mesmers doesn’t have a lot of aoe damage skills. F1, bliurred frenzy, iBerserker and iWarden are the main aoe skills.

In clone creation, it is better to take Deceptive Evasion (trait X of duel) intead of using the scepter, since it’s a broken weapon.

For healing, Ether feast will be better. With Deceptive evasion you will always have 3 illusions up, so you’ll maximize the healing.

I put you one random build that focuses on phantasms, but also have some toughness and provides you quicker shatters:
http://tinyurl.com/q2duyqu

- Phantasms: +15% damage, permanent fury, x2 life, +20% attack recharge.
- Survivability: +2400 of armor, +17000 hp, -3% damage received for each illusion (you will normally have 3 illusions), permanent vigor (more dodges), phantasmal defender, 7558 of healing with 3 illusions, condition cleaner with generosity sigil (sword).
- Dps: 20% less cd on shatters, 45% crit chance and +57% crit damage, +3400 of power with 25 stacks of bloodlust sigil and greatsword.

Don’t take it serious, is just to show you how you should do builds. It upgrades phantasms, but you also have a quick clone creation and quite quick shatters if all phantasms are on cd.
It might seem 20 points in illusions are too much, but phantasmal haste do a pretty job with iwarden, iberserker and also idefender. You will also have +200 condition damage, so bleeding stacks from sharper images will deal more (think both iwarden and iberserker deals multiple hits).

Don’t be mad for my post, but, for what I’ve seen, you still do the same mistake.

You want to run a build that can do a little bit of everything, even if they don’t work well together, and these type of builds normally are weak.

You want to have a lot of damage, with a lot of toughness, you want to rely on mantras, you want to shatter, but at the same time you upgrade your phantasms, you want to heal through mantras, but you have 1 more activation…

Then, another mistake you do is to make changes just to say you changed something, but you don’t consider if they’re good for your build (can you explain me why you choose to use scepter in pve and in a build without condition damage?)

What I recommend you is to focus on less things. 1 or 2 maximum. Then, make the build around these things, but don’t upgrade these aspects too much (don’t put full berserker gear, as you did, if you want damage). Finally, balance the aspects that are worst, but always only if the don’t affect the main aspects of your build, so if you decide to go shatter, forget about upgrading your phantasms.

The perfect build is not the one that can do lots of things, niether is the one that is the best in one aspect. The perfect one is a well balanced build, one that provides good amount of the aspect you focused, and also implements the rest of the stuff that synergize, so you can take profit from as much aspects as the build offers.

The only error I see is that you don’t understand what means when clones are killed. Clones can only be killed when the mobs or players actually kill them, or are replaced by another clone or phantasm. When you shatter, you are not killing them.

I say all of this cause when you shatter, crippling and debilitation dissipation don’t work, so you don’t stack conditions on foes.
So there’s no reason to go with these traits if you shatter a lot. Because of that, 10 points in chaos are useless.

I suggest you to focus on one thing. It might be fun to be able to do everything at first, but after a while, you want to optimize your damage and these all-doing builds come outdated. If you get bored with phantasm builds, then go and try some shatter ones.

The combo light + leap only affects who does the combo, it doesn’t have aoe benefits. So you will only get retaliation when you do the combo on the light field.
The problem with clones when they walk through the field might be a bug, or just a complicate mechanic.

I’ve done this combo hundreds of times when I fight bosses and it works perfectly. The key is to do both leaps when you are on the field.

Extremely OP change. We’d be the kings of all the game with +15 perma stacks of confusion…

With full rabid gear, +3000 per skill activation in WvW and Pvp. That would destroy the game.

They are not far superior, they’re only slightly. They only give you 60 more power and 24 more precision, same critical damage. You won’t notice the differences.

Divinity runes grants +60 in condition damage, toughness, vitality and healing.
In this build, all illusions inflict bleeding on critical hits. So what you lose in direct damage, you gain it with conditions.

I’ve looked how much you gain and how much you lose. The scenario will be the best for ruby orb, with a full glass cannon build (Exotic berserker armor and weapons and ascended berserker trinkets, 30 points in domination and duel), the effective power with orbs is just 175 more than with divinity runes. Each bleeding stack affects 3 less and confusion affects 9 less.
Then, you lose 1100 effective health, plus ether feast heals you 80 less than with divinity runes.

If you want to have the higher damage number, go ruby orbs. If you want to have 98% of higher damage number, but having a little bit more survivability, then go with divinity runes.
First is the best if you want to win a competition, but GW2 is not that case. The only reason to go with ruby orbs is, as you said, the price.

If you can afford divinity runes, go for them. They give you a bit lower, but constant dps, so in general their global dps is similar to eagle. Moreover, you gain more survivability.

About high level fractals, it’s out of my reach, since my lvl is 9 xd But for what I’ve seen, some people go full glass cannon. They argue that you will die no matter what, so it’s better to maximize your damage. Right the opposite you were told XD.

LiebnirGWAccount.5698:

Oooh, this’ll be a long reply!

1. I understand about the Chaos traitline, so i’ve swapped that out, but the reason I has so much was for the Staff’s Phantasmal Warlock whilst Blurred and Phantasmal Warden were on CD. I’m not sure whats better in all honesty. Would you suggest dropping Chaos to 10 and having a Scepter and Sword/Pistol in there? That’d give me some ranged attacks if I require to fall back at least.

2. In Dueling, I went with Phantasmal Fury because I believed slapping an extra 20% critical on them would prove useful in getting Fire sigil to activate. And since it was a phantasm build I didn’t think Illusions played much of a role, especially if I got a phantasm up and I have to dodge, which could potentially make it splode mid-way through it’s attack if i’m already maxed up with illusions.

3. So utilities should be Blink (I use this often!) Mirror Images, and Feedback, along with the lovely Time Warp?

4. On the note of Berserker Armour, I already have a full set of exotic 80 with eagle sigils, and i’ve been feeling squishy at the moment, going down quite a bit during the Molten Weapons Facility which i’ve been using to test it with, maybe it’s just because i’ve swapped from Greatsword (Ranged) to a Melee range set.

5. I can see the reasoning in the Bloodlust sigil, but in that same breath, if i’m swapping to 10 chaos, would it be better to have a Bloodlust in a Scepter and another Fire in the Pistol (for Phantasmal Duelist)?

1. I totally don’t recommend you the scepter. Since 30th April it’s a broken weapon. 2s to create a clon, 1 block that has longer cd than OH sword block and a slow skill to inflict confusion, which is terrible in WvW and bad in PvE.
You can keep with the staff and put only 10 points. Staff is the best supportive weapon and a perfect second set.

2. Ok, so keep fury and sword trait. My change was because I didn’t know what you wanted to be, now I know you want more phantasms I understand more this xd

3. Yes. Since this is a phantasm build, you can try phantasmal defender for Mirror images or feedback, but this 2 are ok.

5. Oh, if you want to have focus and pistol, then go sword/focus scepter/pistol. For sigils I’d put Generosity/Fire for sword/focus and bloodlust/fire for scepter/pistol.
But for me, is better to have staff as second weapon. iWarlock is strong too and with chaos storm and chaos armor, + combos with ethereal and phase retreat, you will survive a lot more.

One last thing. Sigils only work on you, not your illusions. Same happens with runes. So Fire and generosity sigils will only activate with your critics. Phantasms won’t activate them. That is another reason why not to use scepter, since it is a slow weapon and you don’t get much benefit from sigils.

Trying to do a build for everything tents to end with less potential builds. So I suggest you to focus more on a pve-fractals builds and a separated WvW build.
This can be applied to what you focus on a build. With this build you want to make lots of things, but you don’t specialize in anything. It’s better to focus on phantasms or shatters, but not both. They’re quite the opposite xd It works the same for DPS-support builds.

Talking about the build:
Traits
First of all, I don’t understand why you spend so much points in chaos. The only trait I think that’s worth with sword/focus is IV. Then, if you will use quite a lot the staff is better to have trait X, which reduces staff cd.
What I recommend?

• If you’re going to use mainly sword/focus, spend only 10 points with IV trait.
• If you want to play more with staff, spend 20 points with traits IV and X.

Then, there’s Duel traits. Trait X, Duelist evasion, is a must for every mesmer who spends 20 points in duel. I suggest you to use traits IV and X.

In Inspiration, I’d change trait V for III. Read utilities part to know why.

Now we can discuss points you gained with chaos. 5 points in illusions is, again, a must for every mesmer build that one can imagine, since it reduces all cd summon illusion skills.
If you only spend 10 points in chaos, I suggest you to put the 10 last in domination and get traits I or III, depending if you want to increase Mind Wrack or phantasms attack.

Utilities
Signet of Illusions is not good at all. Mirror images or Decoy will do a better job.
The reasons?

• Even with that extra hp, illusions will die with every boss attack or high level fractals.
• As you are not going shatter, you don’t need the active signet action.

Gear
If you can run with it, change your knight armor for berserker. You will gain 16% of critical damage plus some power and you won’t be squishy. With 10/20/10/20/5, berserker armor and the rest of your trinkets and weapons you will still have 2250 armor and +20000 hp.

Sigils
I would definitely change water sigil for generosity. Mesmers lack of condition cleaning and with this one it won’t be a problem anymore. If you cannot afford the Superior, Major one is still good, since it has 40% of chance.

In staff, I would change corruption for bloodlust (more power) or perception (more precision). The reason is that, with mesmers, is not worth to have +250 condition damage if you have very low base condition damage. The fact that we only have confusion as a main condition makes condition damage worthless for us.

Conclusion
You can upgrade your build quite a lot, but keep in mind that the best build is going to be the one that fits on your gameplay style.

So good luck

Arkelia.2198:

I use this : http://gw2skills.net/editor/?fgQQNAW8alwzKqHVTmGb9IyZGMH0R+AsV6BulbXIA-j0CBoLERzJPKrZPCi1MFRjVvATVCSdSpWDDwSGwbAyfYZ1A-w

I miss the 5 points in illusions… So if someone have a suggestion…

Anyway, the last couple of days I’ve been playing this build I had very good results

Put 5 points of domination in illusions and your problem is gone xd Dazzing trait doesn’t seem much useful in WvW. It’s more for 1vs1 and synergizes with Illusionary Persona (more stacks) or Imbued Diversion (AoE stacks), which you cannot have.

I would also change Rending shatter (IV of domination) for I or III, since you’ll get more benefits.
With 10/30/0/25/5 and Rending Shatter, you’ll be doing 6 vulnerability stacks to a single player every 43s, without it, 3 stacks. Not worth it…

I also run a reflection build, but it’s a little different from suburban’s one. It is a mix between his and immortal mesmer.

Your build is a phantasm build. It does quite a good job in sPvP an PvE, specially if you manage shatters after phantasms attacks, so you get benefits of both.

The only problem about it is that phantasms life is much shorter than minions, so you need to re-summon quite a lot.

PD: I suggest you to change decoy for mirror images. You will take more advantage from shatters with 1 more clone than 3s of stealth.

For what I see from changes, they want confusion glamour not to be the main reason to use glamour. They want us to use glamour skills for what we can get directly from them, support.

It’s true that this fact kills an entire way to go for mesmers. At first, I thought it was just a nerf due to cryers, but now I see they wanted to go much further and rebuild glamour mesmer.

You can be as much upset as you want, but the fact is that confusion glamour mesmer is not a way to go from now. It is quite sad, cause it was a funny way to go.

zaxon.6819:

the main reason for blind in a glamour build is to apply more confusion not to actually blind that is just a side product. reflecting/ boon stripping are utility that are also a side product of using a field that should be laying out more of your confusion. they are not the point of the build either. if you want to be a buff bot im sure you would not take half of the traits you do in a glamour spec.

I think they nerfed glamour confusion because of that. Glamour skills weren’t mainly used to get benefit of their actions, they were used to inflict confusion. For me, they fixed this, as glamour are supposed to be support skills and not an offensive weapon.

Despite the lack of aoe damage, mesmers are still good in pve because they can be more glass canon than other profession without sacrificing survivability, thanks to clones and utilities.

In pve I run greatsword(bloodlust sigil), sword/sword (generosity and fire sigils), full berserker armor, weapons and rings/accessories. Runes are divinity. Amulet and back are soldier and traits are 0/0/20/20/30 (Cause I run a WvW build and I’m lazy to change traits anytime I go pve XD). This lasts things give me the little survivability I need.
Damage? iBerserker deals 2,5k-3,5k, iSworman 1,5k-3k, greatsword autoattack 1100…

Even with this build I survive more than some guardians or warriors. You just need to know how to move and coordinate blink, evasions, distorsion, sword block, blurred frenzy…

You people want everything.

Mesmers have the best mobility in combat, so it’s fair to be one of the worst profession in long distance mobility. But we don’t fail at it. With good traits and runes, we can reach every zerg with perm swiftness.

For what I’ve experimented, runes of centaur or air help quite a lot. In WvW is where you mostly need this long distance quickness, and other players can provide you it, so I think using these runes only for speed benefits is not worth.

stelol.6237:

Mesmers are magical duelists who wield deception as a weapon. Using powerful illusions, clones, and phantasmal magic to confuse and distract their foes, mesmers make sure every fight is balanced in their favor and their opponents can’t believe their eyes.

Should change to something like that.
Mesmers are pink portal/veil bots who wield magic wands as a weapon. Using 1shot illusions,clones and phantasmal magic COULD confuse and distract their foes, mesmers make sure every fight is garbage in their favor and their opponents can’t stop laughing on them

Hahahahahahaha

I’ll keep with others:

Thief
Experts at stealth and surprise, thieves can move through the shadows, vanish into thin air, or steal items from their opponents and use them as weapons. Thieves practice an agile, acrobatic fighting style, which can make them very hard to hit.

It should be
Experts at killing people with just spamming skills, thiefs can move being invisible through all the combat area doing insane damage. Thiefs practise kungkittenstyle while attacking and can run off if their life is compromised, making them nearly impossible to hit if they’re masters.

Elementalist
Elementalists are multi-faceted spellcasters that channel elemental forces, making fire, air, earth, and water do their bidding. What they lack in physical toughness, they make up in versatility and the ability to inflict massive damage in a single attack.

It should be
Elementalists are the kings of spellcasters, that channels everything you can imagine to laugh at you. Despite having the lowest toughness and vitality, they can be more tanky than warriors or guardians, thanks to they can heal and have all the boons as much as they like.

Necromancer
Practitioners of the dark arts, necromancers summon the dead, wield the power of lost souls, and literally suck the life force from the enemy. Necromancers feed on life force, which they can use to bring allies back from the brink or cheat death itself.

It should be
Practitioners of the dark arts, necromancers summon all the conditions on you, so you are obligated to suck their d*cks while they suck you life. Necros ignore your toughness, so they can take down an entire zerg, laughing at the death itself because they are better killing people than gods.

Do I need to continue?? Please, stop this ridiculouslness…

Waffler.1257:

Darek.1836:

Mesmers have always been one of the most unbalanced and overpowered class. If you dont believe it, go roll one and see how easily you can face roll everyone.

The people who play overpowered classes/builds will never attribute the ease at which they can kill other players to their build, they just simply think they are highly skilled players. The funny thing is that this “nerf” has existed in sPvP for a long time and mesmers remain one of the more powerful/versatile classes in sPvP despite it.

The funny thing is that this “nerf” has been existed in sPvP for a long time, so now there’s no confusion mesmer and mostly go with shatter builds., which are more effective due to the low DPS of confusion builds in mesmer.

(Ironic mode ON) So I’d say this “nerf” won’t affect WvW mesmers (Ironic mod OFF)…

Nice fights tonight in AG map. They needed like 3 hours to take half of the map with one of the biggest blobs i’ve ever seen. They needed 30 minutes to take etheron hills and 45 to take bluelake, which it was full of siege.

Even though, we’re still winning with +300 points.

Go baruch, this week we’re rocking it!!!

Here’s my mesmer

Then you have my super sayan version XD

I have the same problem with my mesmer. It shows me 28%, even if I don’t wear any weapon, with air sigil in main hand or off hand.

Here are some screenshots:

Guys, you really need to improve your skill in this game. Actually, dodge is what makes this game fun at pvp, cause without it it’d be a boring spamming-skill game.

If you want to press skill 1, 2, 3, 4 and kill the other, this is not your game…