Guild Wars 2

Dungeons are absolutely useless, that’s a fact anyone going to argue with this is stupid.

Did a TA run. We wiped on the Knights about 67 times, normal elite mobs, not bosses or champions. Then 2 guys randomly rage quit. That was 2 hours into the dungeon.
Could not get new members to join our party because the game’s simply buggy and kitten. They literally could not enter the same instance as us or couldn’t join it at all because they hadn’t done story mode. 40 minutes later we got 1 guy to join and went for the last boss with 4 players. By that time I had spent over 25 silver on repairs, and I had gained 0 tokens and 0 items that were worth anything. Up till last boss we only had ONE WAYPOINT (the starter wp), meaning each death = 3-4 minutes of running back through 345 million blossoms/stopping to kill them over and over again. It was my 1st time on that path, but the other 3 knew the last boss. Suddenly the boss spawned 3 veteran oakhearts constantly, getting rooted and knocked down every second. We had no idea what was going on but we were handling it. Suddenly the game decides to take a massive dump on me and crash. I spawn in Caledon Forest and can’t join the dungeon. There was no point anymore so everyone left.
Only did TA to help a mate get his last 60 tokens for his greatsword.

Oh the dungeon are ‘fun’ guys ! yeah ! ……
People gonna say ‘if you don’t want a challenge then go back to wow !!’ or something like that.
Bad news people I’ve never played wow and there’s a difference between challenging and reeetaaaaaaaaaaaarded.

The dungeons are by far the worst on any game I’ve played so far.

Well done.

Hey I’m looking for a guild in EU, I’m mainly focused on PvE and dungeons, but also some WvW. So I’d really like a guild that runs dungeons regularly especially arah since I haven’t been able to finish a path with a pug and I really want to finish my set. I am a level 80 necro got some good gear, 100% world etc so all that’s left for me is farming dungeons and WvW.
I’ve played games for about 6 years MMORPG’s and FPS both I use teamspeak and so do my 2 mates who play with me, one of them is a mesmer, other is a warrior, they might be interested joining a guild with me for some dungeon runs, if there’s any guild interested please let me know.

Thanks in advance

I do not get why this is so hard to implement. They already have preview system anyway.
The prices of some items would go up so much thanks to this and I would actually buy something off TP for skins.

I want mounts cuz they’re awesome and any little thing added to this game will make a bit better. As the game’s abolsutely dead after level 80. Each dungeon should have a mount, and WvW, karma etc. Getting the mount would keep me busy for another week and then quit till something good comes out again. Like actual endgame.

‘’There are other rewards in the dungeons, drops from enemies, chests and gold from enemies/chest/final reward.’’

No there is no other rewards in dungeon. Please play the game before commenting.
You can’t possibly call 1 silver and 3 blues a reward. Please don’t.

Only 2 reasons for dungeons – the skins ( easy to get, takes a week or 2 to get everything you want) and legendary weapon – 500 tokens needed, also about a week for that. That’s IF you want a legendary weapon. There’s your endgame. Two weeks. Have fun.

Ditrah.5128:

Aphix.9846:

Ditrah.5128:

Bottom line is you must enjoy doing events, dungeons, pvp or achievements to enjoy this game.

Yeah if that’s what Anet is going for then…well that’s just plain stupid. I do not know anyone who enjoys those things without any progress/rewards. Just farm events for the sake of farming …events ? Same with everything else. I wont farm dungeons/events if they give nothing. I’ll have 45 million karma and 83983 tokens and nothing to do with them.
Yeah, well thought.

Progress is a must in mmorpg. What most people don’t seem to get. I can not progress further with my character at this current state…

Well let’s just agree to disagree then, I still don’t understand why you though there to be endless progress in an anti-grind game?
I love the progress the guild is doing in WWW, it’s not my character progress though.

Ok. Not endless, some WvW ranks or whatever, or just some sort of rare items. All we have are exotics- VERY easy to get and legendary – VERY hard imo. Need something in between imo, at least.

The game’s been out for 1 month and I got the best gear available and best skins for me.
And I’m done. Clearly they’re doing something wrong.
Not a wow mindset if I haven’t even played the game. Just common sense of rewarding people with items r some sort of progression whatever……………why the kitten else would you run a dungeon like CoF when I got the full set + weapons and done every path and sm. People find it fun really ? :S

Ditrah.5128:

Bottom line is you must enjoy doing events, dungeons, pvp or achievements to enjoy this game.

Yeah if that’s what Anet is going for then…well that’s just plain stupid. I do not know anyone who enjoys those things without any progress/rewards. Just farm events for the sake of farming …events ? Same with everything else. I wont farm dungeons/events if they give nothing. I’ll have 45 million karma and 83983 tokens and nothing to do with them.
Yeah, well thought.

Progress is a must in mmorpg. What most people don’t seem to get. I can not progress further with my character at this current state…

sainguine.2870:

i know really-the guy claims he doesnt play anymore but yet he lurks on the forum-loser sign #1,also he got duped into shelling out his cash believing it was a pve game lol-we have a winner,or shall i say whiner?

Oh dear. This is why I come on the forums. Read comments like this, also to check the update notes see if the sorted it out yet.

I’m guessing you’re level 14. How about you go play the game, get to where I am and then talk. This is not only a PvP game, I feel sorry for you just for thinking that.

If playing the game means logging on for 20 minutes and dumping 20g into the forge everyday for kitten and giggles, then I guess I do play…

nachdenki.2637:

It all depends on what you expect, because I would see that totally different – so you saying that things are a “fact” seems not right to me, because this is very subjective.
First of all, if there really was no endgame, then why not start a new character? The professions are very varied and the story can be played through a couple of times without repeating too much content.

As for endgame … there are multiple nice skins in the game, even if you have two sets, get another one for another character or for your own. This makes dungeons useful and everything.
Did you get all your crafting disciplines to 400 yet? Do you have all the achievments in the game? Do you have a legendary? If not, then I would say you still got stuff to do.

If all that is not for you and all the pvp stuff isn’t either and you find all that boring, than I would simply say your opinion(!) of what an endgame should be is not the same as the devs opinions. That is absolutely fine, but not GW2s fault.
I may be a fanboy, and I won’t argue about that the endgame here is very “special”, as there is really no additional content to go through except the dungeons – I agree with you on that. I wouldn’t say there is nothing to do with lvl 80 though. And even if there isn’t – get a new profession, get a new race and have fun again.

I did like everything about the game from level 1-80. Exploration system (brilliant), dynamic events and heart quests, the world itself. Even after level 80 for a week when everything was still exciting and new. Shortly after that I got everything exotic and all the skins I wanted. That’s when I went for WvW, farming events and killing dragons etc. Became boring very quickly especially for no reward at all.
I will not start a new character as I know what I’m working towards – level 80 meaning massive dissapointment again – nothing to do. And when I make new characters I miss being level 80 with full gear, lol, if you get me. Also I guess 1 of the reason is because all classes can do anything basically, just in a different way. No holy trinity makes it harder for me to reroll. Better for making groups, pvp and dungeons tho. Other games I reroll because I want to play a 100% healer, tank, dps or support etc.

There are skins, but I got the combination of armor skins/dyes that I love also a rare skin staff which looks amazing.
Legendary staff looks really really bad. It takes ages to get while doing so much boring stuff – farming 1.5ish mil karma – dungeon tokens (500 arah tokens for staff, been trying for a week to finish 1 path and I cant, if I do finikitten I get like 15 tokens) and RNG (precurser and clovers). Just too much for a stupid looking staff.

I do not craft on any game. Ever. It’s the most pointless and boring activity I can imagine. Sitting there clicking on cheese and chocolate or smacking an anvil for 3 hours straight.

sPvP is not for me, I prefer large scale battles. WvW is good in general, but it offers me nothing – no WvW ranks, no good loot, no reward basically. Just all a bunch of nonames in a zerg atm.

Most of this is all down to me, but Anet fails to deliver further advancement. The only end-game is Legendary weapon which I choose not to get. Dungeons when fixed reward 60 tokens per path and it will take a few weeks max to get everything you want from 1 dungeon. After that the dungeon is useless for you.

Need different rewards for dungeons – Random exotic items dropping, rare dyes, minipets, epic looking skins whatever.
World bosses – meaning champions which take 15 minutes to kill actually reward a good item not a white helm, dragons like Jormag don’t reward 4 blues and 2 greens.
They were all fun the 1st time we killed the bosses, but after that it’s all pointless.

WvW needs a rank system IMO, like 50 ranks. The higher rank I am the better loot I give if killed (I’d like that), each 5 or 10 ranks I can buy better and better looking armor/weapons for badges. I’d play it 100% no doubts. Like I said atm just randomers in a zerg and no proper reward for spending my time there. I want to advance and have a status.

Ye.

sainguine.2870:

so dont play? noone is forcing you to.see ya

I don’t play…Thought it was pretty clear.
In this current state my character is finished for me. Not any other game has failed endgame like this. I’ve always been unhappy in other games with my character, meaning I always wanted more and advance further etc. Made me play the games for ages.

Just annoyed at the kids who post here about grinding and endgame when they’re most probably level 12 and obviously don’t have a clue.

Reading these comments make me cry.

‘Go explore, make new friends, help newcomers’ ……………I have no words………………

OP is right, the game’s dead, I got everything I want. WvW is not rewarding, killing invaders/taking keeps etc does not give me anything. Atm WvW is just for the sake of zerging and ‘fun’…

sPvP is as it is, but I’m not interested in it, because it’s completely separated from the rest of the game.

Dungeons are useless.

The trailers, interviews and articles before launch all said there’s gonna be a bit of everything: PvE, large scale and small scale PvP, smth for the ‘grinders’ etc.
Yet it was all a big pile of kitten. Not arguable just a fact. PvE and WvW endgames are all down to ‘fun’, they offer no further progress and no rewards. The game’s absolutely useless after a few weeks. All that is left is reroll or go sPvP.

‘’Well the end game in GW is no different then the end game in most other MMOs, but instead of grinding raids (because GWs doesn’t have ones) you can grind dungeons, grind world events or grind PvP.’’

Have you even played this game ?? You can grind all of that but for what purpose ?
People don’t understand the fact that they give NOTHING. Karma, badges, tokens are all worthless. Karma only used for legendary weapon basically, badges same, unless people actually go for the armor/weps (lol), dungeon tokens are for skins, and I got 2 sets, im done.

The endgame is very different from other MMO’s as there is no endgame besides sPvP, and that’s not really endgame either, sPvP is like a seperate game and you can do it since level 2.

Rest of the MMO’s offer people advancement in PvE/PvP for years for casual gamers.
Better stats gear (dont really need it in gw2 but just an example), swtor affored attunements or smth ? You got bonus stats/skills after lvl 50 etc. Usually dungeon bosses reward rare hard to get items. In GW2 bosses give you 3 blues and send you walking. IF you finish a path you get a few tokens and buy whatever you want…
Not 1 game before GW2 that I’ve played I felt like this. Even GW1 kept me busy for like 7 months rofl and I still had so much to do, didn’t even get some of the expansions.

’’Dungeons? More often than not these will cost you money and as you can see, rarely work correctly.

Look at the dungeons. Most are very long (ensuring deaths and repair bills) or short but have at least one encounter that includes mandatory death (repair bills)

All of this to fool players into thinking “whoa, yeah those items have the same stats as what i already have but..they indicate i’m leet.”

Now that players are doing these dungeons and because these dungeons are really the absolute end of PvE as it currently stands, Anet is forced to drag this experience out as long as possible to cover the hole that there isn’t an endgame. Having everything you want a week after hitting max level is..well, bad for business.

Making these tokens Account bound= “Hey ,we know you’ve gotten all you wanted, now try a new profession and have them in 80 exotics the second they hit 80” Fun eh?

Just another attempt at covering the endgame problem- there really isn’t one.’’

Couldn’t quote normally.

I agree with this. I reached 80 in a week and after another week I had everything that I wanted. Several sets, all gear exotic, 100% world, personal story done, all the skins/dyes I wanted. Done.

Dungeons are not fun and are extremely useless as they reward me absolutely nothing.
They need a reward, atm they reward nothing. They need big items with sick skins, gold, dyes, pets whatever. Some boss mechanics need to be changed, because dieing 67 times during 1 boss fight is not fun and it’s rather kitten

Neither does WvW or events/dragon kills whatever give me any sort of reward. I can not progress any further in this game. It’s literally impossible. Game completed.
I do not care about legendary weapons as they the one I can use actually looks REALLY bad.

Played so many big name MMORPG’s and not one of them was as bad as GW2 endgame. Not even close. Usually I play a game for 6+ months and still not even near to what I want, still got so much to do etc. I usually quit because a new game is coming out. GW2 however I have basically quit already, this long waited game didn’t even last for a month for me, and I know there’s many others who feel like this.

The game offers abolsutely no reward for anything you do. They think it’s all supposed to be ‘fun’. Imo There always should be a reward in WvW, PvP, dungeons, like a proper reward not karma or tokens. Something that will make me advance further.

Dungeons- no reward. Tried to do arah today, 1h 20 mins later we wiped at giganticus 45 times and left, what did I get ? lost 3 silver in total and wasted over an hour on this game again.
Yes it was a PUG but what do you expect ? it’s an mmorpg. Point is even if we had finished it all I’d get is 40+ tokens which again, give me nothing.

WvW – no reward. Yay badges. HORRIBLE looking armor for too much effort. I got the crafted 80 exo set+2 dungeon sets, dont need badges. And karma. Why would I need karma ??? WvW should have some kind of ranking system, pvp ranks, getting better looking gear if you’re higher rank, more loot/exp for killing high rank invader (just my thoughts) etc. Atm there is nothing besides two useless currencies: badges and karma.

sPvP – completely separated from the rest of the game means I wont bother with it. If I want something like that I’ll go fps. sPvP needs to reward me with something I can use in the actual game as well, mini pets, dyes, gold (not even sure what spvp gives me havent done it much, all I heard was pvp skin). In other games you can gear up through PvP, get money, items, levels, pvp ranks etc and they can all be used in the rest of the game. For this game it’s like everything you do in sPvP stays there…don’t like that.

Events, champion mobs, jormags and other dragons – No reward. Random white and blue drops from every champion mob and dragon chest. Absolute waste of time again.

Whoever mentiones crafting should be shot.

Everything I mentioned besides sPvP is important towards getting a legendary weapon. But I will not get one. Because the staff looks horrible and just takes too much time to get it, and the fact that grinding all that karma, gold and tokens are boring as hell. Is legendary weapon grinding the endgame for gw2 ?? I got 80 in 1 week after head-start. Game kept me busy for the next ~10 days and since then I’ve been bored out of my mind farming dungeons and now I’m done with them as well. All that’s left for me is PvP or reroll.

I’ve played so many big named MMORPG’s and not a single one was as boring as this at max level/endgame. Not even close. Holy kitten.
What I do like about GW2 is the 1-80 experience even tho I did it fast I thought it was brilliant, events, exploration system (got 100% world), dragon fights etc, but it’s all gone after 80.

Anyone else feeling like this ?
Only bright side for me is no monthly fee, can come whenever they decide to sort it out.
Sorry for my english…

Same problem, completely annoying and stupid, this is actually the only thing I have left to do PvE wise, need 500 tokens for the rest of the set, 2 days gone without a single arah run even tho I’ve sat next to it trying to get in for about 3 hours each day…

People CANNOT enter arah.

Endgame dungeon is bugged and devs probably dont even know about the problem.

I cannot enter the dungeon with a party, when I get the pop up I press ‘enter’ and nothing happens, this also happens to everyone else I know. I can run into the portal and enter but that will put me into a new different instance, which other people can’t enter…

Talking about explorable mode btw.

FIX IT. The PvE is already dead as it is now and they managed to somehow make it worse.

Maybe there’s a way around this bug if anyone can share it would be appreciated.

Nothing to do with the ‘diminishes return’ system mister develepor.

I’ve done TA once – 45 tokens
then finished a CoF path – 45 tokens.

Where are the 60’s you mentioned ? you’re game is bugged again, oh and besides your failure to input the correct amount for finishing a path for the 1st time, I also can’t enter Arah dungeon, AT ALL.

Please sort this out already this is beyond pathetic, I’d expect my +15 TA tokens and +15 CoF tokens, but guess that’s too much to ask as you’re all too busy messing the game up.

….

I need 500 tokens for the whole set so yes I will.

I mean I will if the dungeon actually worked tho, no one can actually enter the instance. I get the pop up and press enter but nothing happens, and sometimes if I do go in 1st and people get in, then they’re in different instances.

Well played.

Not working correctly as usual.

First run TA ever, finished a path got 45 tokens, even tho my mate who ran it for the 1st time as well, got 60.

Bugged again, keep trying.

Fr0st is right, besides all that, as I mentioned, most of those weapons dont even look good.

Also I love how he says:

-The only thing having a legendary is going to prove is that you are legitimately insane. That you are the embodiment of a wasted life.
With the current recipe scheme, I would be embarrassed to actually hold one of these prior to 1-2 years after this point in time.-

Then mister Xalkyriezzz says that he has basically got the weapon already, 1 month into the game. Haha, what a guy.

So anyone even bothering with this even tho most of the weapons look extremely bad? e.g the Staff, take about 3-4 months for a casual gamer to get (1.5mil karma 400g+RNG). For that ? God some poeple at the Anet need a bit more imagination, HOW HARD is it to make ONE epic looking staff, that would fit perfectly for every profession (The bifrost is a white stick with rainbow glow and im a necro). Legendary weapons were supposed to be the endgame grind, the epic looking unique weapon, no other game that I know of has these kinds of weapons etc. But hey, the developers couldnt spend another 30 minutes designing the staff, and many many other weapons that look like a starter weapon…
but we are supposed to grind for this massive piece of … for several months ? very poor, honestly there are so many staffs out there, even green rofl, that look better than the legendary.
Weapons like Sunrise, Twilight, the sword whatever its called and the scepter (meteorlogicus) actually look good and worth their title.

Probably some people will like the staff, female character, mesmers whatever.
There should be more options. If the staff would actually look good Id grind for it no doubt, but at this current state I wont even think about it.

Effects.9437:

YaHiKoDrG.3467:

Either fail troll is fail or you should check out the /r/guildwars2 on reddit or check out guildwars2guru…. ArenaNet has posted the reward system is getting reworked.

They need to reward gold for they’re dungouns

GOLD ? For WHAT ? They need to reward items/skins/dyes/minipets whatever, gold you get doing absolutely anything, events, wvw whatever. I got enough gold already and I dont even try, just keeps coming and I keep spending it, atm I got decent amount of money and absolutely nothing to use it for. Only place I can spend it is Legendary wep, but I wont cuz the staff looks useless and pathetic especially for a necro.

I am bored to hell already, I’m farming my Arah set now, even tho I don’t really want it.
After that if the dungeons are not fixed, and by fixed I mean actually reward me something besides tokens, then I’ll most probably wont play the game.

But yeah, I think around 50% just stopped doing dungeons, saying this because of the people at dungeon entrances and the lfg spam on chat.

Some stopped because of the recent update, some like me stopped because I got my dungeon set which I wanted, and I got no reason to do dungeons anymore, they give me nothing.

Haha, ‘i hope they get banned’, oh dear……

As long as im concerned there are jump puzzles on the game and that’s 1 of them.

I agree with Rizzy. I don’t understand people who go in dungeons repeatedly for ‘fun’ ? :S
1st time story mode and explorable mode can be fun, but after that it gets boring, same story same mobs, same bosses………..
Yes an actual reason is needed to do the dungeon, a reward.

There always needs to be a carrot… whats the point if there isnt one ? always gotta move and work towards something, just how it is. Fun isnt enough, fun should be the bonus while chasing the carrot…….

Also yes agree with Rush as well, most probably the op is nowhere near level 80 and still discovering everything, which was fun, but i’ve been 80 for about 3 weeks and dungeons are absolutely worthless and a waste of time atm.

This is what I would like. A ranking system, people want status, people want to progress, I know I want to.
Let’s say we got 10 ranks in WvW, veteran, captain, commander, warhero whatever. Them titles and ranks would be sick imo. So people could earn their little ‘commander’ status actually through PvP not buying it for 100g.

Prime example for me is warhammer (also rift, swtor and so many other games) with the PvP levels. I would actually play WvW 24/7 seriously. I would get exp for pvp ranks for every invader kill, keep defense etc. And on the battlefield people can see your rank. Also imo decent would be that if the player is high rank, whoever killed him gets more xp/more badges/better loot in general. And for specific ranks there would be pvp vendors with epic skins for weapons, armor, whatever.

Would only encourage players to play WvW. I can 100% guarantee I would quit PvE for that.

The games I mention all had some sort of pvp ranks and items which you gained through pvp. Ranks and titles, status. Was brilliant imo. In warhammer I never did any PvE at all, I literally did RvR the whole time after reaching max level. Same with other games, I’ve gone PvP 100%.

I know sPvP has something similar, but I’m not a fan of small scale pvp, I want the big epic battles for keeps etc. Also basically sPvP is completely seperated from the rest of them game. WvW is not and that’s what I like.

Atm WvW in general is good, the whole concept and the maps etc. But it’s not rewarding enough, I have no status and I don’t progress at all.
All I gain from WvW atm is karma which I dont need and badges, which give me armor, which I dont need again…

And those ranks and rewards imo don’t take anything away from WvW ? It would only make things better I can’t see why not implement something like this.

We got our set so we do dungeons for crafting ? end game ? really ?

Every single MMORPG I’ve played I’ve never crafted since it’s the most boring activity you can do on a game.

No, no, no………

Not even about the money anymore. I got money, I’ve got nothing to do with it.
If I’m not going for legendary then money is worthless pretty much.

Dungeons should take longer and have items as rewards. Like some people suggested, each path should represent the difficulty level, and depending on which path you complete you get rewards, harder path bigger and better rewards etc. Similar to Aion Dark Poeta – B, A, S grade etc, don’t remember exactly, there was a time limit and points you had to achieve. Armor set pieces could drop from bosses and the end boss also gave set pieces, but also had a chance to drop weapons. The best grade end boss (S) gave you really rare weapons, low drop rate, but still.

Basically it had rewards, I really liked it, a reason to actually run the dungeon.

I’m one of those guys who can’t stay off a game as long as I have time. If I got whole day off then I’m on the game whole day.

I haven’t played it for the last 2 days now, I’m sitting here watching youtube videos and thinking about other games…I have literally nothing to do PvE wise, dungeon’s give me absolutely nothing and everything else I’ve done.

This is pathetic. Only bright side is that there is no monthly fee. Yay.

Me and my 2 friends literally have been waiting for this game since 2010ish. Honestly I was so excited seeing all the vidoes and trailers, even playing the beta, everything was amazing. Still is good from level 1-80. Best leveling experience I’ve had on any game. PvP also good besides the unbalance between professions + bugged skills+traits (necro). The exploration system is amazing. WvW PvP is good also, the keeps objectives, supply etc all well done, reminds me of warhammer RvR which was amazing imo.

But endgame PvE ? Where is it ? Dungeon’s are NOT WORTH IT. Especially for me since I’ve got all of my gear, I love the dungeon set I’m using. I do not want any other skins. Now I want an actual reason why to do dungeons. There needs to be a reward.
ATM they give me absolutely nothing for all the hard work I may put into finishing a dungeon, I get nothing. I do not want to play this game anymore. Both of my friends who I mentioned immediately logged off the game and haven’t been on it since even tho they’re actually on teamspeak doing nothing, so basically they’d rather sit there doing nothing than play your game.

Anet needs to sort it out. I got my personal story done, my 100% map completion and my armor/weapons/jewels everyting are end game. I’ve ‘completed’ PvE in this game in about 3 weeks+.
I’ve played so many other MMORPG’s in the past, yet none of them was so dead end-game PvE wise as this game. Even WvW gives me nothing. The badges give me really ugly weapons and armor, which I don’t need, as getting a level 80 exotic armor set and weapons takes about a week. I’m a bit ocd about finishing my chars as well (was really fast to get 100% world :p), I want the best stats, the best looks etc for my char, but in other game’s they’re so hard to achieve, so I just keep playing and playing for years even. GW2 however, I’m basically done.

I realize legendary weapons are availabe to craft, but IMO they’re too hard, a bit too hard and time consuming, I like the all conecpt etc, but for me it’s too much. Especially if the staff looks like a white stick with rainbow glows, and I’m a necromancer.

Yeah…I’m trying to keep myself in the game. I have faith Anet pulls it together.
I’m thinking of finishing all story modes on dungeons and explorables maybe. Then maybe kill 500+ of each mob type for the achievements hahaha…yeah that’s what it has come down to for me. Pretty bad, pretty bad indeed.

nickzed.6380:

Holy crud. Reading this thread has made me so ashamed of the current generation of game players. The entire point of playing video games has been lost on everyone, most likely thanks to World of Warcraft. I guarantee everyone complaining about these changes has at one time played and enjoyed a game like WoW, or similar to it (I.E. everquest/Rift) in the way there are gear treadmills.

The point of playing a video game, is to have FUN. Doing these dungeons should be fun, if you don’t find them fun, don’t do it. You guys are forcing yourselves to do something because you want a reward, but you don’t find it fun. It’s insanity, nearly. I personally find these dungeons to be a blast, which is why I run them. The fact that I will eventually get gear I like from them, is just a bonus. I want them to be difficult, that makes it more fun.

If you guys are seriously running these dungeons for any reason besides finding them fun, you’re doing yourself a great disservice.

How can be dungeons fun ? Alright I do the story mode and explorable mode each once. That’s the 1st time tho.
But what happens after that ? HOW can you find running the same dungeons over and over again FUN ? with no REWARD ?

See that’s just weird imo, running a dungeon for 50 times, no reward, just ‘fun’ ?

And no I have never played WoW. It’s just common sense to have a reward for finishing a dungeon. Otherwise what’s the point ? Dieing 10 times, takes hours etc, and when finally you kill the end boss and what it tells you is ‘here you go take ur 5 tokens and 3 blues and gtfo’. (you need 1380 for whole set)

I need to feel like I’m constantly progressing (rewards for dungeon+cash+getting dyes,minipets,achievements from dungeons w.e). I need to feel like I’m working towards something (big reward for finishing dungeon). But atm I get -NOTHING- from dungeons, they’re worthless. if I want fun I’ll go PvP, but I also want to progress PvE wise, which Anet fails to deliver through dungeons.

Should I be REALLY EXCITED AND HAPPY if I kill the dungeon end boss for the 50th time and still get nothing ? Should I be satisfied ? Nah.

Hello Robert,

PLEASE listen to what I got to say and I hope many people agree with me.

For me, it’s not even about the changes that much, I know they were bug fixes or whatever. It takes a bit more coordination and skill to finish, takes about 10 minutes longer than before max. That’s fine. The dungeon itself is fine and good job on that.
The problem is that the dungeons even before this patch weren’t rewarding enough, now it just got worse.

But as I said and I completely Agree with ChairGraveyard, is that there is no reason, at all, for me to do CoF or any other dungeon. My character looks really good and I got the set pieces and weapons from dungeons which I wanted. At this point in time my necromancer is ‘perfect’. Endgame gear, weapons, 100% map etc. And PvE wise I got nothing left to do since dungeon are not worth finishing. They give tokens which I do not want, out of the chests I receive stupid amount of blue and green items. I gain about 10 silver per dungeon run. That’s it.

There should be a big reward for finishing explorable mode paths, for example me and my mates go in and finish all 4 paths in 1 go and in the end we get a chest containing some rare items like mini pets, rare dyes and those cool skin weapons which you get out of the Mystic Forge. Each dungeon would be different, so people would do all of them. Need that reward, not just tokens. Need that thrill of the loot. Where you never know what you’re gonna get.
For example those corrupted weapons and those weapons that glow in the dark or whatever, I don’t even know if they’re acquirable, but adding those kind of weapons or items as rewards for dungeons would be perfect and all I ask for.

Me and my 2 friends who all started to play GW2 since headstart are at a point where we put all our 20g into the Mystic Forge because we simply did not care anymore.
We literally have nothing left to do besides reroll or sPvP. That’s it. I have not played this game since this patch neither have my friends, we ran around Lion’s Arch for 2 hours this morning and after that we all closed the game.

Sorry for my english…

Me and my 2 mates sitting in Lion’s Arch, just gambled 20g into mystic forge and got 27g back. As usual. That’s actually the ONLY thing that’s left to do on this game. We all used all our cash to gamble and now waiting for items to sell so we can do more.

Then 10 minutes later, everyone goes ’don’t know what to do now, ima go on Lol, I’ll go on MW3’ Everyone logs off and 90% sure we wont bother with this game anymore.

Also absolutely sure there are many, many more like us.

Well done mister Jon. If I want to do the same path then I should be able to. Simply because all the paths rewards are the same – NOTHING. So why would I run a different path, which is 2x harder and takes more time for same amount of tokens ?

Your game simply does not make any sense.

There is no endgame PvE content. You can say otherwise but the fact is there is not endgame PvE. Just a fact. I got my set in 5 days with casual play. That’s not end-game.

There is nothing in between exotic armor sets and legendary weapons.
Full exotic characters can be done in a week after reaching level 80. Too easy imo.
Legendary weapon – see you in a year.
People who decide legendary weapons are too much effort for a skin, literally have got nothing to do PvE wise after 3-4 weeks. That’s me.

Yep, Dungeons are abolsutely useless now. Absolutely useless. If the devs don’t see that then I’m sorry you need to sort yourselves out.

I got my dungeon set, the CoF set with the Arah headgear (light). I do not want any other sets or pieces. My armor and stats are perfect for me. I got 2 armor sets 2 sets of jewels staffs daggers axes warhorns from dungeons etc. 100% map completion, personal story done.

Now what do I have left ? huh ? Only pvp. That’s all. The legendary staff looks HORRIBLE for what it is. It’s a white stick with some rainbow glow on it. Takes 6 months+ for a casual gamer to get it. And I am a necromancer, I do not even think about getting that weapon with that skin.

Usually end-game is about PvP and dungeons for me. Well what do dungeons give you now ? 100% absolutely —-nothing-—. No money since I can die a lot+ diminishing returns, chests give NOTHING. 3 blues. I’ve done about 150 runs in different dungeons, that’s about 400+ chests. I’ve got 1 exotic gloves and 4 golds. Which are useless, again.

Dungeons NEED an actual REWARD for finishing it. TOKENS ARE NOT ENOUGH. Especially if I have the armor set.

Where’s the thrill of the loot ??? Why isn’t there a big chest at the end of an explorable path or whatever ? Get a exotic weapon, like you get from the mystic forge ? some mini pets or rare dyes ? No, nothing.

Give actual rewards for dungeons. What people do right now is buy 76 exotic weapons and sit next to the mystic forge 9 hours a day gambling, well it cant be called gambling when you 90% of the time make a profit. Guy in my guild got The Lover and The Hunter, 50g each. I tried it as well, made 4g each try. Meaning I made about 1g profit for every attempt.

That’s what your games come down to. People just sitting in LA doing nothing and making money. Rather then actually playing the game and doing dungeons for rare loots. Nah your rare loot comes from 2g + mystic shard into the forge.

Please wake up.

Not trying to be funny, but imo this is the best gear I’ve seen on any game I’ve played.

oh my god.

Some people and their problems.

I’m actually shocked at this topic.

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Could be spelled Billybobbenjamin for all I care still pronounce it as zaitan…….