Guild Wars 2

For us WvW players, the better idea would be to not make PvE part of map completion. Just sayin’.

DeWolfe.2174:

Oh, for the Golems… learn to where to park them. Legendary defenders still rip apart players in an instant.

Ah, except you’re forgetting the infamous Dragun Knight incident of Season 2 where he built a treb inside our spawn (don’t ask me how) and destroyed all of our omegas parked at the back of cita.

We have since learned to hide them… elsewhere.

Deathdom.8250:

Reanne.5462:

Dont transfer to Crystal Desert, all they want to do is karma train and blob around the maps. Come to HOD we have loyal guilds here that enjoy wvw, and don’t jump ship everytime the rankings change.

Uhhhh, CD hasn’t possess the ability to karma train and blob ever since seasons ended nor did we enjoy it when we could against weaker servers. But if you want to go and call 35ish people a blob to excuse how bad some of your guilds are, then go ahead I guess?

Yes, our guilds and wvw population are so bad that’s why we’re less than 2k points behind you right now, a server 4 ranks above us, despite the fact that neither you nor SBI ever seem to attack each other’s borderlands unless it’s to back cap whatever we take and instead spend all your time camping ours. Get over it, please.

HoD is a tight-knit community, to be sure, and the people here now are mostly the ones that stuck it out all the way from the fall to T7/8 and rise back up to Silver. We’ve gotten some OCX and SEA coverage since then, and many new guilds have formed to replace ones that were either disbanded or to merge multiples into one, but we’re mainly still the same people we were pre-S2. A lot of people who left have also come back. We have theme nights, a commander guild for intercommunication between server coms, TS, website, etc. Come fight with us. For the Henge!

Sword/Horn is what I run instead of GS (for the blast and fury), although Sword/Axe is really great for deflecting projectiles. If you know how to master using the sword, you are all over the place, evading, poisoning, crippling, leaping in and out of the fight, timing your autos for optimal use of the final strike, and a lot of the time people get so turned around trying to fight a sword Ranger they look like chickens with their heads cut off. I put many many hours into playing my wife’s Ranger before making mine, and I definitely wanted to go with sword. GS may hit hard at times, but it will generally get you killed in most melee fights due to the fact that you must be glued to the target at all times for it to be any good.

aesthetix.4832:

As a warrior, I still find rangers to be the easiest to kill when roaming.. by a large gap.

Dodge the rapidfire, pop an invuln, use shield + missile reflect trait, etc. then break the range gap and spank away.

Every class will have a counter for it.. and sadly half the rangers out there will go full potato after rapidfire is evaded or blocked

See my post above about maining 2 heavy melee classes for 2 years, and what happened when I made a Ranger. What you’re seeing is what I call “Ranger Panic” when I beat them on my War or Guard, in that once their RF or PBS has failed and you have closed the gap, they seem to no longer know how to fight. And that’s a big issue, yes they made Rangers walking machine guns after the patch but a machine gun is useless if you’re up in their face with a pointy thing and they’re still reloading, for lack of a better analogy.

Atherakhia.4086:

The thing you’re ignoring about the melee classes in this game is they have an abundance of ways to get into melee range and maintain that range. While the Ranger has some kiting tools, there aren’t many on the LB+GS combo that is all too common. It’s also worth mentioning that despite the supposed strengths you list, the class still hasn’t found a way to break into the meta in PvP, WvW, GvG or competitive guild groups.

Being completely honest, unless you’re a Necromancer, a Ranger isn’t going to present an insurmountable hill you can’t climb. While the Ranger is certainly strong, a nerf while the class is still mostly obsolete seems premature without compensation elsewhere.

Aberrant.6749:

It’s fine, just pop a reflect… WvW-ers seem to love hitting themselves in the face or if you don’t have a reflect, pop a channeled block, or idk… dodge…

The interesting part comes when you’re someone like me who has mained a War and Guard exclusively for the last 2 years. I’m pure melee. I know all the tricks for distance closing and reflection, usage of EP/BC/GS Charge/Whirl/Missile Deflection with Shield on War, on Guard JI, WoF, Sword 3, traited retal, and have seen many pew pew Rangers die to me without even getting my health down below 95%. I just don’t think they’re very good.

So, consider what happened yesterday when I made a Ranger and popped him to level 80 then took him into wvw after a few practice PvP hotjoins. I didn’t go with GS — Swoop has its utility, yes, and there is an evade on AA, but I don’t feel it’s very effective. Quickening Zephyr is a terrible waste and a super easy way to die. Instead I went evasive/trapper with some condi mixed in. I don’t allow myself to die from my own ranged attacks and I know how to fight melee so I can hold my own very well with a sword+wh. I can also heal and blast myself to full every 30 seconds and have more invul than a traited EP/DP War or Guard with Focus 5+RF. My armor is comparable to that of my Guard, and I run ~20k health. My power and crit chance is comparable to my War.

I was killing people left and right, and, yes, good players too — I could hold my own in melee for a while at least to poison/cripple, pop a trap and then LB 3 to stealth and about face+Lightning Reflexes to move away again. All the War/Guards gap closers and reflections are still on CD at this point. All my LB skills are off CD within 15 seconds or less. I can now pew pew again at 1000+ range, behind you without you even knowing I went behind you, rinse repeat Healing Spring + WH blast and I’m full health and you’re probably almost dead.

I think a person who exclusively played melee playing a Ranger can be extremely deadly — we know all your tricks. Bad Rangers are gonna be bad, but they’d benefit an awful lot if they played and knew melee mechanics inside and out so they wouldn’t retal or reflect themselves to death or panic the moment their pew pew has failed and the gap has been closed.

I created a ranger today and insta-80d him with an experience scroll and tomes. I already had some ascended armor pieces and trinks ready for him. Thing is, while he does use LB and the range/dmg/attack speed increase/cd decrease for LB, he’s not a power ranger. The LB has a lot of utility because of its high range, but if that gap gets closed it can get really deadly, really fast. I run a combination of knight’s, assassin, and berserker for armor, soldier weapons, and captain’s/knight’s trinkets. So, yes, high crit chance, fairly high power, but not glass. I also don’t use GS — I prefer s/wh so I can blast my own heals, and the sword for the evades, cripples, and poison. Signet of Stone and Entangle are pretty much necessities (as well as the decreased CD on Entangle), but the whole idea of a Ranger is to keep my distance and if I can’t, use as many evades and movement impeding skills as possible to widen the gap again. Lightning Reflexes and Spike Trap/Muddy Terrain are also great, but I’m still having trouble with condi clears and stability — shame that Signet of the Wild isn’t also a stun breaker.

Generally my utility layout is Healing Spring, Lightning Reflexes, Signet of Stone, and still trying to decide on Signet of the Wild/Spike Trap/Muddy terrain for the third. Entangle generally runs in my elite but Rampage as One is pretty great aside from its prohibitively long CD.

Yes, it’s only been one day. Yes, I’m still learning. But I’ve put over 10 hours in on my wife’s Ranger and I think I can work out a build I’m comfortable with in a week or so.

That said, I think that even with the build I run it feels too powerful. Read the Wind just doesn’t need to exist and the channel activates far too fast on Rapid Fire. Every single skill on the LB is insanely useful and has a relatively short CD. Rapid Fire will out-burst my power Warrior’s HB any day, and I can do it from 1200 range and still keep moving. It just doesn’t seem right.

pepper.6179:

Ark Bladesteele.2943:

X T D.6458:

Didnt hear you guys complaining when you took guilds away from lower tier servers like fergusons, and hammer trained your way to #14. Great when your the one dominating right? In fact you guys bragged about it on the forums, easy to win when you have numbers, works both ways ya know. If you dont like it, try recruiting for your server to shore up coverage gaps or helping train players. Good luck

I remember this post about 5 months back on those “other” forums from the leader of DR’s [RED].

praettor

Don’t be upset with the server as a whole to have the numbers we do now, remember that a significant chunk of us slogged through the T8 loss streak and are still here. “Bandwagon” doesn’t stick to this kind of steel.

I thought his wording sounded odd then, since if a bandwagon doesn’t stick, won’t they just move on? I guess they did. Sorry DR.

thats weird, the leader of [RED] doesnt have an account in the “other” forum. Maybe you’re confusing a post with that famous fake DK fella.

http://www.gw2wvw.net/comment/55507#comment-55507

I use Anvil Pants’ userscript to block NotRealDK and several others so I wouldn’t be able to see that guy’s posts anyway.

warning: I used to PvF pretty hard back then before I mellowed out.

oscuro.9720:

Come back to T8! Kaineng misses you!
On a more serious note, this is happenning more and more. Look at Borlis Pass in t7. They were down 50k by then end of saturday. They need to incooperated divider rials into te flicks rating if they don’t already have it…if they do than that sucks

BP is toast. Maguuma’s nickname is now Maguuma Pass for a reason; they ate all of BP’s remaining hardcore wvw guilds.

Seems like this thread has to be linked at least once every couple days:
https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/game/wuv/Ingame-GMs-do-they-exist/first

X T D.6458:

Didnt hear you guys complaining when you took guilds away from lower tier servers like fergusons, and hammer trained your way to #14. Great when your the one dominating right? In fact you guys bragged about it on the forums, easy to win when you have numbers, works both ways ya know. If you dont like it, try recruiting for your server to shore up coverage gaps or helping train players. Good luck

I remember this post about 5 months back on those “other” forums from the leader of DR’s [RED].

praettor

Don’t be upset with the server as a whole to have the numbers we do now, remember that a significant chunk of us slogged through the T8 loss streak and are still here. “Bandwagon” doesn’t stick to this kind of steel.

I thought his wording sounded odd then, since if a bandwagon doesn’t stick, won’t they just move on? I guess they did. Sorry DR.

It takes glicko a while to adjust, you will fall further until you reach a point where you can start to win, but sometimes it can take months. We went 24 weeks straight without a win this year. I’m sure you can tough it out.

I fed it 50 empy frags earlier and it gave me an empyreal star :P. Saved me 50 more frags and some obsidian shards though I guess.

I didn’t understand a word you said.

OmniPotentes.4817:

Subdue.5479:

This one time I bought a TV for $800, and then 2 years later I saw it was on sale for $200. WTF NEVER GOING TO BESTBUY AGAIN!

Your argument holds no water. I’m free to choose what TV I buy, whereas I’m having a useless reward I can’t sell or trade forced upon me.

Then choose 100 giant gifts and sell them for 15g.

Rangerdeity.5847:

they reset once a year thats plenty if you kittened up just wait for the next reset and actually think before you slap them all into ram mastery on your ele

Actually they reset every few months, every time they hold a tourney.

Read the friggin post I linked. kitten . Did you read the entire GM thread? Did you read the entire other thread with Michael in it? Things can be done about it. I’ve seen it happen. We had a hacker on our server who made a bad name for us and we got rid of him within 3 weeks, and that was only after we found out how to do it thanks to that thread.

Ok I Did It.2854:

From the first video it looks like they are under the map, as the rockets from the golem are coming straight threw the floor, good news is there have been devs floating about ingame now on BL’s just to monitor this very thing,

I don’t know why Anet just don’t make it that under the map is complete out of bounds and you take 200,000 damage a second while under there, this would prevent the map breakouts just to cheat.

Yeah, many games have a Y axis (or Z axis in some engines) death threshold if you fall below a certain point. Not sure why GW2 doesn’t have one.

the tkiller.4153:

Ark Bladesteele.2943:

Remove the account name and videos from the thread or it will be deleted, just FYI. That stuff’s against the ToS. Post it elsewhere like the unofficial forums. You can try sending it to exploits@arena.net but they will most likely do nothing about it.

Take it from someone who has had many, many threads deleted and been infracted/suspended because of them. Even just posting videos and not character/account names.

i made a copy of the tread so if they delete/ignore it this is going on reddit.
people don’t like censorship

Of course not, it’s why I screenshotted every single one of my deleted threads before they nuked them and reposted elsewhere. I was just throwing that warning out there from my own experience.

You may end up with 3-4 day forum suspension, though. Just so you know.

Getting your waypoints in place as soon as possible, papering other BLs and EBG so they can’t get theirs in place, all very crucial to establishing the weekend score. Also, it’s not so much that it’s “important” in that it’s the time when the most people come out into wvw so you get lots and lots of fights, both open field and over objectives. It’s generally just considered a fun night.

Remove the account name and videos from the thread or it will be deleted, just FYI. That stuff’s against the ToS. Post it elsewhere like the unofficial forums. You can try sending it to exploits@arena.net but they will most likely do nothing about it.

Take it from someone who has had many, many threads deleted and been infracted/suspended because of them. Even just posting videos and not character/account names.

Wrong, the report function is exactly what you’re supposed to use. Did you even read the thread? It’s the exploits@arena.net email address that does nothing.

Oh. Well, good luck up there.

Also, check out this post:
https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/game/wuv/Cheating-Dev/4647467

If you are observing wrongdoing while it is occurring, you can whisper the GM. They have said they will try to respond as soon as possible to try and catch it in action.

I’m in favor of keeping it. Not the “no white swords”, though.

You’re up against us this week, and we have a decent SEA and OCX presence. Hope you find some fights.

Enemy servers can see the effect as well, although it may be slightly muddled if you have enemy team colors turned on (I do). I haven’t tested this yet, as I don’t know if an enemy has one or not.

Since golems are not affected by the team colors option, though, you would most definitely see it on them (I have). People have been buying the black like crazy so they can have their sleek black Porsche omegas.

Brow.9425:

Ark Bladesteele.2943:

coglin.1867:

Ahh, weather effects. The most commonly known, single, fastest way, to increase lag exponentially, in every game out their. Sure, who doesn’t want more of that?

Sure, because the snow that already drifts in northern borderlands causes so much lag. And the rain in EBG. The sandstorms are a bit laggy, I admit, but they could tone it down to a fog distance limit and simply add a post process layer instead of the craziness they have in Dry Top. Wanna know how I know this? I’m a friggin graphics programmer. It can be done with almost zero performance impact.

In fact, using fogging to limit view distance would increase performance thanks to the innate culling effect.

This is getting a bit off topic now. I’m not a graphics programmer. But I am a GW2 player. Due to a video card failure, I’ve played both with a video card and without, and I can say that GW2 does not need high end video hardware EXCEPT where there are atomospheric or particle effect. Which makes the game unplayable. The real sin is that these effects, that render the game unplayable, were (pre- drytop) entirely for aesthetics.

Timed jumping puzzles require a minimum FPS. In 2012 I could do Clocktower and WW on demand. In 2013, I did neither not even once (both because of fog effects). In Drytop, I had to be ported to the top because of the fire effect at the top. I did the whole JP just fine until the end because of something added to be pretty, that didn’t have any gameplay role at all. I got a new video card, and did clocktower and WW multiple times this year.

The point is, even though it is possible to do this with zero performance impact, GW2 certainly doesn’t do so. And it would be wrong to have to boost the minimum specs for something that that’s purely for looks and should be toggle-able in the video settings.

On topic, I already despise the almost omni-present blizzard that prevents me from trebbing the SE tower from hills keep.

You’re right in that the programmers in GW2 do not seem not implement it this way. I was simply pointing out that it could be done. I’ve also seen how performance has degraded in the game immensely despite not seeing any real graphical improvements, and I would not endorse increasing the minimum system specs for the game at all.

I just think it’s a neat idea. Don’t you think that the borderlands have a bit of a static feel to them? I mean, first of all, they’re all the same map. All identical. I wouldn’t mind popping from my BL over to an enemy BL and suddenly there’s a thunderstorm or something else going on. It makes the world more interesting.

It’s unfortunate that the GW2 programmers most likely wouldn’t be able to make this happen without degrading performance drastically. I’ve seen what the sandstorm does to the framerate on my high-end GPU. It’s not pretty.

Anyway, I’ll let this get back on topic. This is probably better off in the “new experiments” thread instead.

I lost it at the “I believe you’re missing a bear” part. And the “hey, you new here?”

coglin.1867:

Ahh, weather effects. The most commonly known, single, fastest way, to increase lag exponentially, in every game out their. Sure, who doesn’t want more of that?

Sure, because the snow that already drifts in northern borderlands causes so much lag. And the rain in EBG. The sandstorms are a bit laggy, I admit, but they could tone it down to a fog distance limit and simply add a post process layer instead of the craziness they have in Dry Top. Wanna know how I know this? I’m a friggin graphics programmer. It can be done with almost zero performance impact.

In fact, using fogging to limit view distance would increase performance thanks to the innate culling effect.

I wouldn’t be all that opposed to removing rally. It’s actually a really crappy mechanic when you think about it.

I’ve always been in support of dynamic weather, stuff like the blizzard in Frostreach, the sandstorm in Dry Top, and maybe add in some brutal rain and fog that limits view distance at times.

So many neat things they could do to make the maps more dynamic and interesting. Everything right now is just so… static.

1) Hell no. The AoE cap exists for a reason.
2) No downed state, no stomps, no reason for people to buy finishers. It will never happen (and I like my finishers).

It does. It even changes the color of any golems you pilot.

Shadelang.3012:

Im kinda suprised theres this many servers that don’t use player scouts. I know for a fact that there are commanders that even pay gold to dedicated scouts that stay around for a long time.

For the lower population servers I can understand that. But even then there are ways to catch “sneak attacks” audio ques being a big one.

To take that a step further Id love for towers to how a “warhorn” alert the npcs could blast when the area is under attack that plays a loud audio for any players in that quarter of the map. Would make more sense than the magical swords htat somehow get plastered on everyone’s map simultaneously.

That’s kind of a cool idea actually. I mean, I like white swords and all, and some people have brought up the reason why they don’t is that it’s immersion breaking, but why not look to what they did in the Silverwastes with signal fires, air strikes, etc? Throw up a signal flare that you can see from within reasonable viewing distance if a structure is under attack. Allow us to order upgrades to call in air support to delay a zerg attack. Give us interesting mechanics like what was done in the Silverwastes and I think the game would be better for it.

If it says the user is not online, yes, they blocked you or made themselves invisible. Most likely blocked you.

Please stop posting your vitriol as you are devolving this thread into an attack thread, and it’s not helping. Michael has shown more attention to wvw than anyone else has in months, stop trolling and keep the thread civil.

Melanion.4892:

I think the reason for the implementation of the sneak attack thing was to test what effect it would have on WvW as a whole.

I don’t think you’ve given it enough time to truly appreciate what can and will happen as a result. Personally, I couldn’t be bothered. Assaulting towers isn’t something I generally do, and most diligent commanders can watch the map to expect where an enemy zerg is going. If a sentry is flipped or killed, it means something is coming in that direction and you send a scout. White swords already popped up 30 seconds after the beginning of an assault, which is about as much warning as watching sentries would give :/ At the moment, I think most commanders and map watchers haven’t figured that out.

On the other hand, points per kill is amazing. Punish the bad zergs that get rolled over and over. Maybe consider removing orange swords altogether to see what happens ^.^

Who on earth have you been playing with/against? Smart commanders and players know to avoid sentries so as not to even trigger their movement to alert anyone with their M key open. It’s extremely common.

“Idiot’s guide to EOTM” — seems a bit redundant.

You’re just reposting the same garbage that you wrote in the other thread. Move on please.

Technically, one of those is a torch. And the legendary is pretty awesome. I just don’t use torch at all.

Well, I was close on b and c I guess. And it makes sense that you wouldn’t make yourself invisible because people might be wondering who the hell is talking in say/map chat if you had to say something and they can’t see them (and then assume it really is a hacker). Same goes with the team switching.

Glad to have you around, Mike.

sminkiottone.6972:

Baldrick.8967:

Maybe the plan is to force pvp players in to spvp (with all it’s build and food restrictions)…in which case the plan might be working.

Don’t forget to put on your tinfoil hat.

If it was for me I would also remove the waypoints from keeps and garry, so the big blobs would be punished even more

This is just ridiculous. This is one of those times I’m certainly glad you don’t work for Anet and the fact that I’m pretty sure they’re not even reading these threads anyway. You are seriously alone here in all of these threads and it’s a good thing that you are.

I would also like to see evidence of him porting in the zerg. The screenshots don’t say much. It is a bit odd to just have him standing there switching sides and being invul, but without evidence of him actually doing something wrong as in actual cheating (porting a zerg in) I’m hesitant to say he was there to do something bad. I’m leaning towards either:

a) Hacked dev account who did port in the zerg
b) GM who made a mistake and forgot to make himself invisible
c) Includes b, but maybe another player did cheat and port a zerg in and someone reported them. GM shows up to check it out. Not sure what the switching sides thing is about, though. I’ve got nothing for that.

X T D.6458:

I believe thieves guild summons show up as “server name beasts”? also it wouldnt say thief it would say “underworld rank” like invader etc… but aside from that if what you say is true it is indeed an exploit

It used to say beast, now it actually says “server name Thief.” But there’s no rank so you can clearly tell that they’re summoned.

Wow, that is unbelievable. If it wasn’t for the screenshots I wouldn’t think it was true. Did you get his account name at the very least? You could block him and find out if it was a GM or not from his character name. I was going to say that it was perhaps a GM looking to observe wrongdoing or the general game experience, but porting in an entire zerg? Wow. This is perhaps one of the most bizarre things I’ve ever seen in wvw, and I’ve seen some really bizarre stuff.

And that is definitely a real dev or GM. The icon doesn’t lie. One thing that actually occurred to me that makes me laugh a little: what if someone hacked his account? That would make this all twice as hilarious.

Good post, tich. Furthermore, I think that if they do still want people on defense, want people to actively scout and such, it needs to be more rewarding (not that this has been said many times before even when there were white swords). Many of us defenders spend a lot of time, effort, and gold on upgrades, siege, refreshing that siege, and downright boredom protecting our objectives, and we get absolutely nothing from it aside from the occasional bag and WXP from a scout kill or a pitiful defense bonus from successfully defending something after the 3 minute timer pops.

It really does seem like Anet is going the way of “ktrain moar plz” with their attitude towards wvw lately. I’m not even sure they care about defense.

I don’t see that at all. What he wrote a month ago actually turned out to be true. Yes, he wrote it before the change went in, but he doesn’t need to reiterate what he already said if it’s actually what’s happening.

Yeah any time you screw with weapons or navigate the hero UI, check your finisher and make sure it’s set. For some reason it keeps resetting. They haven’t fixed it yet.

Nobody’s panicking, and you’re acting like a jerk.