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I’m running 10/5/30/5/20, meds and virtue of resolve traited for condi cleanse. Major pieces are celestial, minor PVT (traveler runes), zerker weapons (GS/ SW-torch as of recently for added burst and gs/sw-fc). Two energy sigils for each weapon swap and a BL/Force depending if i already have 25 stacks. Running with shelter as heal and atm JI, SC, CoP. Despite the amount of condition cleansing I still end up being burned through endless conditions way too fast.

Trying to decide if swapping JI for Purging Flames or should I swap CoP for it cuz of the lower CD.

I dislike running with the zerg as it feels mindless and more like PvE than PvP. That being said, I don’t like sPvP either as it makes me feel limited (x point is there, go get it and keep it). I’m well aware of the limitations Guardians have but in general as long as I don’t get bombed by conditions I do fine.

Lately I keep fighting condition specs almost 80% of the time while solo roaming and I feel like I’m at a pickle.

Considering how many conditions they can stack with next to no cooldown (engis, necros) I’m wondering if it isn’t warranted dropping JI for purging flames or even dropping SYG for it and relying on blocks from virtue and focus to stomp.
Just tonight I fought an engi that kept reapplying almost all of his conditions as soon as I cleansed them.

Need an edge, any ideas?

+1 for this.

Thanks to immobilize stacking they turned Engineer into hard counter for Guardian.

If you open a ticket they will tell you it’s your ISP and no matter what you tell em, what kind of info you provide that they’re wrong, it will still be your ISP and “they can’t do anything about it”

does it pulse further clearing more or?

Devils.3679:

yeah this is an ok set up but in pvp witht he nerco/condi meta i would rune purging flame over judges intervention and healing signet over shelter.
Purging Flames is much better as it is condi cleanse and good dps on points.

I not sure how long fury last when you use a medi but i also rather take Purity for more condi removal.

10/25/30/5 is what i run. But thats my playstyle maybe i like to dodge roll a lot in order to avoid dmg.

I also use divinity runes

did they fix purging flames? last time I tried it, you had to walk out and back in to cleanse conditions.

I have a question regarding Justice is blind, is the 240 radius, 25 sec cd blind better than say empowering might? I’m currently using the exact same build but with empowering might instead and 10 secs into the fight I’m running 9-12 stacks of might with GS/sw-fc.

Forgot to mention I don’t do spvp anymore unless I’m testing new builds. I stick to WvW roaming mostly.

Cush.4063:

Simonoly.4352:

Cush.4063:

1. Phantasms do a kitten ton of damage.
2. Phantasms have more health than clones so they are harder to kill
3. With 3 phantasms up and being in stealth that is massive damage
4. Killing them put conditions on yourself if traited
5. All mesmers stealth abilities are not on long cool downs
6. With mesmers in stealth with multipe phantasms up they can do more damage than thieves without being revealed.
7. I have more hours on my mesmer than any other class so don’t tell me I don’t play mesmer and that’s why I’m hating on it.
8. I’m not hating on mesmers but just putting down invalid arguments from the mesmers in this forum and i just hate when people defend their class with false info
8. The targetting system is fine. That’s the main point of stealth and clones, to trick you into targetting the clone instead of the player not knowing which is which.
9. I feel that that should be the only reason to be able to use stealth, as a defensive mechanic to make someone think that a clone is the player and not to hide in stealth while having only phantasms up noobing the enemy.

Thanks!

4. Clone death traits do not affect phantasms. They will only have retaliation for 5 seconds if a phantasm build.

6. Thieves can do the same thing with Thieves guild and spike you for scary damage with backstab. Phantasms have attack cooldowns and won’t constantly attack when the Mesmer is in stealth. Swings and roundabouts when comparing Thief and Mesmer stealth.

8. You’ve also provided false information.

I did not provide false information at all. What are you talking about? Lol. You just admitted it and thieves guild? Really? An “elite” yes an elite that no thief ever uses with a 180 sec CD. Please. Stop trolling

Um, all the thieves I fight bust it out as soon as I engage so uuum… yea they do use it quite often.

Tim.6450:

Arlette.9684:

Precisely the problem, we’ve been taught by ANet the hard way that classes can excel at more than one thing at a time (I’m saying by ANet because of them we have that multi purpose warrior running around, the immortal necro that kills groups of people just by starring at them. Mesmers that kill us with Phantasms while sitting in stealth, etc). And it seems like the guardian is good at many things but doesn’t excel in anything in particular.

I will not dissagree with the multipurpose warrior and the mesmer, but the" immortal necromancer that kills group of people"??? necromancers die easily in group fights, it’s our main pvp flaw. By the way don’t guardians excel in blocking and support?

Engineers block better and on lower CD as I recall. Support is debatable I’ll give you that.

Arken.3725:

I think it really varies. A Guardian’s survivability is heavily dependent on either his party or fully speccing into self-preservation(clerics). I don’t see many Elementalist’s running Clerics anymore, maybe Valks but certainly not full support/bunker.

I feel as if everyone wants their profession to be able to do everything and do it well. Unfortunately for the Guardian, this doesn’t work too well. When you consider the weaknesses of the Guardian(lack of ranged, soft cc, swiftness, low health), it’s very difficult to multi-spec with excellence. I’m fine with this actually, you shouldn’t have the best of both worlds.

This may or may not have been mentioned but outside of Vigorous Precision(requires decent precision), the Guardian has no other significant passives in it’s trait line to assist. It’s all active.

Precisely the problem, we’ve been taught by ANet the hard way that classes can excel at more than one thing at a time (I’m saying by ANet because of them we have that multi purpose warrior running around, the immortal necro that kills groups of people just by starring at them. Mesmers that kill us with Phantasms while sitting in stealth, etc). And it seems like the guardian is good at many things but doesn’t excel in anything in particular.

I feel like the only reason why we’re not down at the bottom of the food chain with the elementalists is because we have better survivability. Other than that we’re just as kittened.

Fatallion.5389:

Ok well maybe I forget the healing power and stick with damage/defence. Another possibility could be that I play the 0/5/30/30/5 build with AH related traits when in group and change traits to meditations while I know I’m going for solo, while keeping gear the same. Would that work, does meditations require something exact to be effective?

That’s what I do.

However I do have a full cleric gear as backup in case I need to heal my group with regens and dodge rolls.

AH has terrible scaling with Healing power 1% to be precise. Furthermore AH shines if you’re running with a full group, anything less than that and it’s a No-No, at least from my experience with the trait.

Cat Has Ducks.1982:

Arlette.9684:

puttin a 25% speed increase that high up in zeal practically makes the zeal line a MUST have and narrows down build diversity.Guardian needs that movement speed either as a signet or a very low tier trait.

For what WvW?

Mainly, yea

yLoon.5289:

To You Know Who.

By the way, you are not one bit being constructive at all, everything you posted is just about complain complain complain and licking Warrior’s butt. While I’m giving suggestion, you behave like a Taliban suicide bomber.

1. You are referring to highest hitting damage need 3secs to perform, I assume GS2? Therefore I’m suggesting you a way. Warrior hardest hitting GS2 is strong but too easily avoided, furthermore is frontal aoe, not 360 like Guard.
2. You are complaining like a kid about hammer, I’m suggesting how to fully utilized Hammer fullest capabilities, im sorry for you if you feels like forcing when someone is giving out facts. Bash what? Hammer4 ofcos. This is what happens to noobs, forever refuse to learn, i’ve met alot of kinds like you.
3. Well, at least Guard could sneak attack Judge intervention at 1200 range.
4. About Blind, I wont indulge in your childish reply.
5. Yup, i agree with you on this, Guards is either fight or die. Or choose other profession
6. In fact, arena did give us mini buff on Zeal trait line regarding on this, drop a symbol of wrath at 50% HP which provides you with Swiftness on Dec Patch. At the moment, the choice to run close to none.

Ele is best in AOE, however easily interrupted.

You just never fail to amaze me, get your head out of the gutter and look around.

Soon they’ll delete the Tech Support section and the ticket system so we got no way of reporting problems… oh wait, they’re halfway done already.

kitten y.7236:

they told me the same thing, but i play on a laptop and experienced the same lag on 3 different ISP’s. if you go through the forums you will see lots of people reporting lag, Anet has not commented on the subject so i believe the problem is with them and they are ignoring it. most of the issues started 2 weeks ago.

This

Liza.2758:

PvP wise

Guardian’s play style is very predictable … because all Guardian has now are .. Triple Med / Sword focus – GS ….

every dam Guardian play triple med …. It’s the best choice you have now with heals and dot cleans but at the same time it becomes very narrow playing. Most of good duelers are used to it by now and be able to kite or avoid it easily …

Amen to that.

My problem being that I fight outnumbered all the time, getting a 1v1 is like getting a Xmas present in May. So even with all the blinds, Dodges (I use double sigil of energy) I have to avoid twice as many attacks and it feel like I run out of tools to survive before I can make some serious impact.

yLoon.5289:

Arlette.9684:

I’m sorry but what you guys fail to mention is, our hardest hitters require for the target to be in range for 3-3.5 secs to take the full damage of the skill, while we’re lacking the necessary tools to make that target stay in melee range for the above mentioned period of time.

1. No passive speed increase like every other class
2. Out of our entire kitten nal of attacks that have high damage only the hammer #2 is a single hit, and even that one has an animation slow enough, for the target to have the time to take a pizza bite and still press the dodge button before it lands.
3. On the other hand, a full zerker warrior has a ranged attack that crits anything between 10 and 16k depending on what it hits and yes it is a single hit. And close combat versions of it (predictable and all) that hit just as hard if not harder.
4. Warrior has 6xx HPS, so even in zerker gear they’re not as glassy.
5. Warrior has passive 25% speed increase, you won’t have to worry about staying on target.
6. Warrior has amazing mobility with greatsword, Guardian has great mobility “to” and none “from”, if I can put it that way.

In the current meta Warrior is vastly superior in almost all aspects (except for being a buffbot in large scale activities) of the game compared to a Guardian.

That being said, Guardians are likely to see some sort of buff in the near future, while Warriors are almost 100% getting the nerf bat and might end up keeping company to all the Elementalists on the sidelines.

1. I’m sorry to say this but do you know about Sigil of Hydromancy on Greatsword once swap, there you got your full damage.
2. When near wall, Bash opponent to wall, if you are skill enough, you will be able to perform 3 hits combo hits with 2 AA + Might Blow (again, its about skill)
3 Warrior rifle, predictable like kitten, AOE Bow slow like kitten, too stupid to see their animation? Good for you. Our scepter AA are actually working tremendously good in melee range.
4. Skill of players determine the glassiness in this game, not HP. Guard got much more easy access to Blind comparing to Warrior. You wanna Blind and have more HP? That would be OP. Blind helps you avoid gigantic damage, enough said.
5. In term of speed, we are compensated with easy access of Stabiliy, true, we are harder or can never able to hunt down other classes that are withdrawing from battle, but there is myriads of ways such as teleport, hammer 3, GS5 to pull them at the right moment (again, its about skill)
Wanna make target stay on you? Ring of Ward.
6. It will be OP if guards have the mobility like warrior.

Lastly, you are so terrible wrong in stereotyping Guard as buffbot. Guards are king of AOE Damage, go figure yourself as i repeated too many times in forum.

To OP,
Depend on what game are you refering to.
In Dungeon play, yes Warrior got the upper hand in DPS. Guards DPS comes to second among all of the classes.
In PvP,
in AOE damage, warrior <guard,
in single target burst warrior = guard.
in CC warrior=guard
However Best AOE damage is Ele, Guard second.

You sound like a 15 year old that just got caught jerking to his character. Congrats!

To be constructive:

1. So we’re forced to use a chill sigil if we want to do damage, Warrior isn’t. What’s your point?
2. Bash what? I’m sorry sounds like you’re trying to force me into using a mandatory weapon. Warrior doesn’t need to do that.
3. I’m sorry so warrior attacks are predictable and guardian ones aren’t? Really, since when?
4. Yea you got blind, he’s got Usain Bolt in his right pocket, he can just disengage and not take any of hte damage that you have to mitigate with blind. So uuum yea…
5. If you bothered to read point 6 instead of bleeding out of your rear you would see that I mentioned Guardian has great to and no from mechanic, as in we can get to target, we can’t get away from a fight. Fight or die every time.
6. I agree it would be OP if they have the mobility of a warrior, but at least some kind of escape mechanic, something to give us the option of running away.

“Eles are king of AOE Damage, go figure yourself as i repeated too many times in forum.”

fixed it for you.

puttin a 25% speed increase that high up in zeal practically makes the zeal line a MUST have and narrows down build diversity.Guardian needs that movement speed either as a signet or a very low tier trait.

I was being sarcastic…

Behellagh.1468:

I was curious about a bit of activation delay I was seeing tonight so I checked out the various IPs I was on with both ping plotter and Window’s resource monitor. For quite a while their was a huge increase in ping between the DFW node and NCSOFT’s first node (65.205.119.210), on the order of an additional 100ms (usually only 30ms) with ping plotter showing transit times to NCSOFT on the order of 180ms. Add in the usual server code turn around I was getting pings in the Window’s resource monitor ranging in the 250-300ms range.

At the moment, the connection is back to “normal” for me with only a 75ms ping to NCSOFT in PP. I’ve been noticing this pattern for the last week or so, the lag in activation. This is just the first time I bothered looking into it.

Shhhhhh, it’s all in your mind, it’s not their fault, it’s your ISP!

I keep seeing people linking builds with 13-14k HP for WvW and I keep asking myself, how do these people live for more than 3 seconds against any of the burst fotm classes?

Am I missing something?

mistsim.2748:

there are ways to tweak celestial to have enough power. it’s not meta because almost no one has the gear. but the stats are quite impressive. reason u go for celestial actually is for the healing power, which u can get up to almost 1k. that means a lot more sustain.

+1 for this, there are ways to tweak it.

I feel that in the current bursty meta anything less than 15k HP is just free loot bag unless you’re running 1500+ healing power with full support build.

I dig it, I’ve always wanted to try scepter instead of sword but I feel like I’m gonna miss the sword 3 burst too much.

I’m sorry but what you guys fail to mention is, our hardest hitters require for the target to be in range for 3-3.5 secs to take the full damage of the skill, while we’re lacking the necessary tools to make that target stay in melee range for the above mentioned period of time.

1. No passive speed increase like every other class
2. Out of our entire kitten nal of attacks that have high damage only the hammer #2 is a single hit, and even that one has an animation slow enough, for the target to have the time to take a pizza bite and still press the dodge button before it lands.
3. On the other hand, a full zerker warrior has a ranged attack that crits anything between 10 and 16k depending on what it hits and yes it is a single hit. And close combat versions of it (predictable and all) that hit just as hard if not harder.
4. Warrior has 6xx HPS, so even in zerker gear they’re not as glassy.
5. Warrior has passive 25% speed increase, you won’t have to worry about staying on target.
6. Warrior has amazing mobility with greatsword, Guardian has great mobility “to” and none “from”, if I can put it that way.

In the current meta Warrior is vastly superior in almost all aspects (except for being a buffbot in large scale activities) of the game compared to a Guardian.

That being said, Guardians are likely to see some sort of buff in the near future, while Warriors are almost 100% getting the nerf bat and might end up keeping company to all the Elementalists on the sidelines.

http://gw2skills.net/editor/?fUAQNAR8dlUgiDnGyNEf4ESmCDEBxUURw31DIKiaIA-jkyAoLBZ6TgpCQZvioxWZJiG7AoKbM1LRUt9WRzkLULEggxA-w

Doesn’t get much more bunkery than that, You get decent healing from all the meds, extra dodgerolls and you can still dish out some damage when you have fury up (again compliments to the mediations). If you feel like you don’t have enough crit chance, swap some of those soldier pieces for knight and trade vitality for precision.

Tapdatmouse has nice builds, but they do need certain tweaking to individual playstyle, or they won’t work as good in practice as they do on “paper”.

Edit: this is for solo/duo. Anything more than 4 and you’ll be better off running shouts with altruistic healing instead.

Save your breath, the ticket that I opened, after all the reports and diagnostics that they made me send… well they told me, it’s an ISP issue resulting in packet loss, we can’t do anything about it. funny how it’s the only game on my list that gives me this issue but hey it’s ISP issue to them.

save your breath, the ticket that I opened, after all the reports and diagnostics that they made me send… well they told me, it’s an ISP issue resulting in packet loss, we can’t do anything about it. funny how it’s the only game on my list that gives me this issue but hey it’s ISP issue to them.

+1 for having this fixed. I’m honestly surprised that after a year and a half they still haven’t addressed some basic issues like this.

What spec/gear do you use?

Traited SoR with meds spec and smite condition is pretty fool proof vs necros.

Sovereign.1093:

Best class: Guardian

Easy to play, heals supports, and has nice builds if you’re willing to experiment.

That staff skill 1 is the most op thing I’ve used and played with. ;3

In zerg maybe, how’s that staff faring for you while roaming?

Guardians have prolly the worst mobility (1 tp on 10 secs CD, 1 on 36 and a leap don’t exactly cut it if your target just walks away from your burst once you get to them) in the game, no escape mechanics. Rolling a Guardian dooms you to a lifetime of zerging as that’s what we’re good at.

If you’re gonna be running 1k healing with that trait set, opt for energy sigils for the extra dodge rolls/heals.

I also find that in the current meta shouts are lacking compared to meds unless you’re running with a group of 5+

At the poster above me, that 11k hp build is not gonna get him very far at all in WvW, not now that 5k crit is as ordinary as snow in the winter.

Cruxiis.3574:

Arlette.9684:

I love the table, makes me feel even more confident that I made the right decision getting the celestial/soldier hybrid gear, as balanced build is what I was aiming at.

Can you link me to what you use? I was looking for a celestial hybrid build of some sort I use this atm and it’s too squish for me…
http://gw2skills.net/editor/?fUAQNAR8dlUgiC3FSHEfIFSODRCBtZAQHUVh4BrAGB-jgCBYfJDbBg8DiKYIzJPKrJSCiFXFRjVtET9KR6XC1A-e

This is what I’m running, keep in mind I only have 2 ascended trinkets due to lack of laurels, optimally i’ll be switching those for some more celestial/berserker-valkyrie mix

http://gw2skills.net/editor/?fUAQNAR8dlUgiDnGyOEf4ESmiVCBxUURw31DIKiaIA-jUDBYLCyEEQ0HBO5TQM7RZtMsIasqaQ6FYKTK1qXA2bA2cQ+ELrWKgtGDA-w

Edit: This is strictly roaming WvW, for PvE you’re better off getting a different rune set and ditching some of the HP altogether. I’d go with something like this:

http://gw2skills.net/editor/?fUAQNAR8dlUgiDnGyOEf4ESmiVCBxUURw31DIKiaIA-jUzAYLBZCCEVIwJfBxsnyaxtIasqaI9CmqUpW9CYvBs5QejlVLFwWjBA-w

Got another reply:

Kenda Today at 16:03

Hello Stefan,

Thank you for getting back to me. Can you please test out your connection again for me today at some point. There was an issue that was brought to our attention that should now be resolved that was specific to people in the US playing on EU servers. Let me know if you are still having issues.

Please do not hesitate to contact us should you have any additional issues, questions or concerns.

Regards,
Kenda
Guild Wars 2 Technical Support
https://en.support.guildwars2.com/

Last I checked though, IoJ is a US server.

sandvich.8259:

I’ve Just logged out because of this. It takes me 2 seconds to switch a weapon, rubber-banding when trying to walk through Keep doors and enemies porting all over the place while fighting. Sorry but I can have more fun doing something else.

+1 for this

I love the table, makes me feel even more confident that I made the right decision getting the celestial/soldier hybrid gear, as balanced build is what I was aiming at.

My suggestion is, run the diagnostic tool and post your trace route data. I did that in another post, it seems to be an escalating issue.

My suggestion is, run the diagnostic tool and post your trace route data. I did that in another post, it seems to be an escalating issue.

Ok so today after uploading a ping plotter sample to them on top of the diagnostic tool and game advisor I got the following response:

Kenda Today at 12:17

Hello Stefan,

According to this report, your connection is suffering from packet loss. If you are not familiar with this term, it simply means the loss of data while in transit from point A (your computer) to point B (our servers).

If you review the results of Ping Plotter, you should see solid red bars (lines) throughout the test. Each of these red lines is a spot where the connection just, well stopped. Either not enough information could be received or it wasn’t sent. As such, the game is trying to adjust your position to your last known location. Because the server is always right, (this is a security measure for anti-cheating/hacking) the game is forced to adjust your location to where the server last thought you were. This causes your character to “snap back” or “rubberband” to that location. If not enough data is received in a period of time, then the game will likely disconnect you because it thinks you are no longer active.

Because the loss of data is happening prior to it reaching our game servers, you will need to contact your Internet Service Provider for assistance. I would highly recommend sending them the results of your Ping Plotter test so they can visually see the issue you are suffering from.

Please do not hesitate to contact us should you have any additional issues, questions or concerns.

Regards,
Kenda
Guild Wars 2 Technical Support
https://en.support.guildwars2.com/

Special thanks to the EV guys that came for the 2v2 fights, we’ll catch up with you next time we end up vs Ebay hopefully with a little updated gear/rune set.

Made a ticket with all the diagnostics they asked attached, been about 18 hours and no response… I love the customer service ANet has

I’m sorry but as it stands if you don’t go for traveler runes or your opponent face tanks you, you’ll connect to your target only when you get binding blade up and that’s if they don’t dodge/block it. I’m not sure if I’m correct but Guardian is the only class that I can think of that doesn’t have a passive 25% movement speed, making traveler runes mandatory for any kind of non zerging.

Lately with all the warrior’s around it feels like Guardian is an underpowered warrior. We don’t have their sustainability, their damage, their mobility, their CC. The only thing we bring to the table compared to a warrior is boons, I’m sorry but I didn’t sign up to be a buff bot.

I love the class and the playstyle, but I’m getting more and more discouraged, because I don’t have 60g in my pocket to buy the mandatory rune for the class. And it looks like I’ll have to Pay to Win (pay to get gold, to get the runes, so I can win).

Brando.1374:

Arlette.9684:

Burnfall.9573:

Op. i disagree with you. You mention runes and food…

All class have Equal access to them including Equal access to condition builds.

So that would make all classes Op than?

Necromancers are not even an Elite class..

Why Pick on Necromancers?

Why Punish Necromancers?

Don’t they deserve the same Rights as us?

Don’t they deserve the Freedom to be who they are?

I conclude… It is your Imagination.

I’m sorry what? Guardians have a condition build? Since when? O.o

I conclude… It is your imagination.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qhgV0S7v1L4

My imagination is nice

I dare you to do that in the current meta not in august… even for back then it’s rather unimpressive. So yea, are you really comparing that to a condi necro? I’d love to get some of what you’ve been smoking.

Straegen.2938:

Monkeymonger.9235:

I’m sorry, but i listed three abilities that give you burst speed.

Also there are roaming necros, engis and a lot of specs that don’t want to give up fighting power for escapability. It simply means picking fights more carefully.

Guardians don’t lack burst damage. A x-30-30-x-x build has amazing burst capabilities.
I can only speak for meditation dps builds, but their “damage spam” does well against “condi-spammers”. I haven’t seen any shatter builds in wvw for a very long time, so i can’t comment on that.

This reads like someone trying to shove a square peg in a round hole. Guardians have a lot of advantages but burst speed or DPS isn’t one of them. They will NEVER outrun a speed warrior or thief. It simply cannot happen… they cannot even out run a elementalist with Fire Sword. They also cannot out burst a warrior, mesmer or thief.

In almost every category that makes a great roamer, they are at or near the bottom of the list. It doesn’t mean players cannot roam with them but it is akin to thieves talking about how great they are in zergs.

All in all… that is OK. If Guardians were great roamers, they would be nerfed into oblivion since they are clearly the dominant class in group play.

I’m sorry but the way ANet put it, every class will be able to do anything they want and you’ll be able to play what you want, the way you want. I’m sorry but if I can’t roam cuz 90% of the situations I end up in, I’m lacking… I’m supposed to just go zerging cuz that’s what my class is good at? I don’t wanna zerg, I wanna roam.

Burnfall.9573:

Op. i disagree with you. You mention runes and food…

All class have Equal access to them including Equal access to condition builds.

So that would make all classes Op than?

Necromancers are not even an Elite class..

Why Pick on Necromancers?

Why Punish Necromancers?

Don’t they deserve the same Rights as us?

Don’t they deserve the Freedom to be who they are?

I conclude… It is your Imagination.

I’m sorry what? Guardians have a condition build? Since when? O.o

I conclude… It is your imagination.

I almost exclusively roam with my brother as a pair. And I gotta say, I can’t begin to count the times where DB players would hoof it in a 2v2 situation until they meet someone else to back them up, then retaliate, start to lose and hoof it again until they get at least 5 people to get their courage back. First time I see anything like this in weeks.

And Ebay… I haven’t seen ebay group comprised of less than 5 players, solo/duo roaming just doesn’t exist for these guys.

Just my 2 cents. Hoping for better roaming match up next week.

This is what I got running the GW 2 diag tool.

= Tracing network paths
==================

• pathping -w 500 -q 25 -4 64.25.39.1 <--*

Tracing route to 64.25.39.1 over a maximum of 30 hops

0 Dreamweaver-PC.PK5001Z [192.168.1.107]
1 192.168.1.1
2 PK5001Z.PK5001Z [192.168.0.1]
3 * * nc-184-3-128-1.dhcp.embarqhsd.net [184.3.128.1]
4 rcmt-agw1.inet.qwest.net [71.32.28.177]
5 dcp-brdr-03.inet.qwest.net [205.171.251.110]
6 63-235-40-50.dia.static.qwest.net [63.235.40.50]
7 0.ae2.XT3.DFW9.ALTER.NET [140.222.225.55]
8 GigabitEthernet4-0-0.GW12.DFW9.ALTER.NET [152.63.97.86]
9 * * 65.205.119.210
10 64.25.32.9
11 64.25.32.26
12 64.25.39.1

Computing statistics for 75 seconds…
Source to Here This Node/Link
Hop RTT Lost/Sent = Pct Lost/Sent = Pct Address
0 Dreamweaver-PC.PK5001Z [192.168.1.107]
0/ 25 = 0% |
1 1ms 0/ 25 = 0% 0/ 25 = 0% 192.168.1.1
0/ 25 = 0% |
2 3ms 0/ 25 = 0% 0/ 25 = 0% PK5001Z.PK5001Z [192.168.0.1]
1/ 25 = 4% |
3 31ms 1/ 25 = 4% 0/ 25 = 0% nc-184-3-128-1.dhcp.embarqhsd.net [184.3.128.1]
1/ 25 = 4% |
4 35ms 2/ 25 = 8% 0/ 25 = 0% rcmt-agw1.inet.qwest.net [71.32.28.177]
0/ 25 = 0% |
5 43ms 3/ 25 = 12% 1/ 25 = 4% dcp-brdr-03.inet.qwest.net [205.171.251.110]
0/ 25 = 0% |
6 41ms 2/ 25 = 8% 0/ 25 = 0% 63-235-40-50.dia.static.qwest.net [63.235.40.50]
1/ 25 = 4% |
7 —- 25/ 25 =100% 22/ 25 = 88% 0.ae2.XT3.DFW9.ALTER.NET [140.222.225.55]
0/ 25 = 0% |
8 71ms 3/ 25 = 12% 0/ 25 = 0% GigabitEthernet4-0-0.GW12.DFW9.ALTER.NET [152.63.97.86]
0/ 25 = 0% |
9 76ms 3/ 25 = 12% 0/ 25 = 0% 65.205.119.210
0/ 25 = 0% |
10 76ms 3/ 25 = 12% 0/ 25 = 0% 64.25.32.9
0/ 25 = 0% |
11 —- 25/ 25 =100% 22/ 25 = 88% 64.25.32.26
0/ 25 = 0% |
12 82ms 3/ 25 = 12% 0/ 25 = 0% 64.25.39.1

Trace complete.

• pathping -w 500 -q 25 -4 206.127.158.1 <--*

Tracing route to p4-23-c0-ncdc-pub.plaync.net [206.127.158.1]
over a maximum of 30 hops:
0 Dreamweaver-PC.PK5001Z [192.168.1.107]
1 192.168.1.1
2 PK5001Z.PK5001Z [192.168.0.1]
3 nc-184-3-128-1.dhcp.embarqhsd.net [184.3.128.1]
4 * * rcmt-agw1.inet.qwest.net [71.32.28.177]
5 dcp-brdr-03.inet.qwest.net [205.171.251.110]
6 63.146.26.18
7 * * xe-0-1-0.fra23.ip4.tinet.net [141.136.110.125]
8 89.149.164.42
9 206-127-157-86.plaync.com [206.127.157.86]
10 p4-23-c0-ncdc-pub.plaync.net [206.127.158.1]

Computing statistics for 62 seconds…
Source to Here This Node/Link
Hop RTT Lost/Sent = Pct Lost/Sent = Pct Address
0 Dreamweaver-PC.PK5001Z [192.168.1.107]
0/ 25 = 0% |
1 1ms 0/ 25 = 0% 0/ 25 = 0% 192.168.1.1
0/ 25 = 0% |
2 2ms 0/ 25 = 0% 0/ 25 = 0% PK5001Z.PK5001Z [192.168.0.1]
0/ 25 = 0% |
3 35ms 1/ 25 = 4% 1/ 25 = 4% nc-184-3-128-1.dhcp.embarqhsd.net [184.3.128.1]
0/ 25 = 0% |
4 35ms 0/ 25 = 0% 0/ 25 = 0% rcmt-agw1.inet.qwest.net [71.32.28.177]
1/ 25 = 4% |
5 40ms 5/ 25 = 20% 4/ 25 = 16% dcp-brdr-03.inet.qwest.net [205.171.251.110]
0/ 25 = 0% |
6 47ms 1/ 25 = 4% 0/ 25 = 0% 63.146.26.18
5/ 25 = 20% |
7 138ms 6/ 25 = 24% 0/ 25 = 0% xe-0-1-0.fra23.ip4.tinet.net [141.136.110.125]
4/ 25 = 16% |
8 127ms 23/ 25 = 92% 13/ 25 = 52% 89.149.164.42
0/ 25 = 0% |
9 —- 25/ 25 =100% 15/ 25 = 60% 206-127-157-86.plaync.com [206.127.157.86]
0/ 25 = 0% |
10 129ms 10/ 25 = 40% 0/ 25 = 0% p4-23-c0-ncdc-pub.plaync.net [206.127.158.1]

Trace complete.
Section completed in 169.78 seconds

I’m no expert but it seems the loss of packages occurs on the receiving end.