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Is anyone not mad?
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I was in the HIRE group fighting MERC outside lake tower on SOR BL… some great fun fights.
As far as the super crappy ppt from SOR, all I can say is meh, it happens.
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What am I getting hit from? It’s cumulative damage and through the gate.
Mesmer great sword.
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I would like to welcome all the new transfers to Blackgate SEA. By the way your garrison is under attack……
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I think “2v1” will make a fantastic drinking game this week…. just a hunch.
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I think if gvg was ever implemented… that would be the end of wvw.
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Nice work night crew.
Also i have heard that some guy called Waage have bought choo so they are now coming to BG.
Choo is not leaving SOR.
Erm I believe you missed the joke in the post you quoted.
Joke or not, these types of posts get out of hand. Just clarifying.
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AGG transferred again? Whowuddathunk?
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Nice work night crew.
Also i have heard that some guy called Waage have bought choo so they are now coming to BG.
Choo is not leaving SOR.
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Seriously, some of you people have absolutely no perspective outside of your own little world.
Honestly covenn, you may want to think about this statement and see how it might apply to your own viewpoints. I think sometimes you may take what TW does and assume that’s how it’s working on other maps for SoR.
There is no assumption. Saying that at all means you missed the point.
Edit: I hope that was either a troll from you or you just hadn’t read all the posts before responding. Please tell me it is one or the other.
I honestly do not know why you even bother Covenn. These are the same type of people that still complain about 2v1’s in a three way fight, while claiming hax arrowcarts that are shot through a gap above the door.
Simply put, they are wvw baddies. and lack an understanding of wvw mechanics.
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I have a question; has TC ever had the outmanned buff ever?!
Sigh, a lot of people forget we were dominated in T2 for something like 10 weeks before we finally started gaining some steam.
Edit: Yesterday morning I had outmanned buff on 2 maps when I joined.
This is true…. TC vs SOR at TC’s EB spawn ( during culling era so u cant really see them)
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All of these ideas are wrong… the servers right now are pretty much where they should be……
You clearly do not understand wvw, you would face a complete blowout ( in either direction) if you were artificially matched up against someone else.
What if IOJ was placed against SOR? What do you think will happen?
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Dragonbrand before the transfers is a very weak tier 2 server. These transfers will make it into a tier 2 contender. Whichever server replaces BG ( assuming MERC is leaving) will just get roflstomped in tier 1. My personal predictions…..
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I hope the NA prime players on Mag and YB know that they are actually nightcapping the DB SEA crew right?
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Can’t wait for TC to come to tier 1……..because all of your recruiting efforts will land you here soon.
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Despite the fact that you had a 40 man zerg against a Hills with 3 ppl in it you still felt the need to exploit PoV glitches and use multiple AC’s to kill all the siege inside. Very classy. The fact that you took the care to make sure that you put leg specialists on all the AC’s as well was even better. I guess if you are going to cheat you might as well make the most of it.
You keep saying that SoR has such a ‘great’ community but I don’t think that word means what you think it means.
That was me, the leg specialist, on that arrowcart… We placed it directly up against the wall and you are able to shout behind the gate through the gap above the door. It was not a POV exploit, but a well known mechanic. Please refrain from making senseless accusations when you dont understand wvw mechanics.
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SOR has probably the most stable wvw server community out of all the servers in NA! The people that you will be playing with will stay there and ull make tons of friends…..cuz we are nice people.
We also have a lot of hot women!
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Why would you ever want to transfer to T1? Have you read any of the threads on skill lag or queue times? In T4 we still have queue times and skill lag (although only in giant Stonemist Castle battles). I wouldn’t transfer to any server in the top three tiers for those two reasons alone. If you want to avoid those issues completely you should stick to T5 and below. Why spend money to sit in a queue and then only be able to auto-attack because none of your other skills will work?
Qeue times arent really a big issue except reset nights. The skill lag is very irritating but anet is working on a fix.
T1 does have the largest, most epic, battles however, and on my way up from rank 17 with SOR, T1 is by far the best tier, with the most skilled and organized opponents.
( There are baddies too of course)
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We know you lead ppt about 2hrs a day eastern time zone NA, and constantly complain and make excuses why you are behind the other 22hrs of the day.
You do well in eastern time zone when you have the numbers advantage.
However, you are in T1 now. Those that are “just in it for the fights” and not WORLD v world v world, can go 5man or gvg to their little hearts content in the lower tiers.
Our world (of competitive T1 teams) is smashing you. Chest bump all you like, championship rings don’t lie. You have none. Crying that one of our star players (FOO) isn’t on YOUR team won’t help you win either.
Anything else?
Its more like leading for around 6 hours during NA primetime like I said we do 90% of the time. Considering JQ ticks as low as 150 ppt during NA times most nights implies that your NA crew is very weak. Nice try though.
You do realize during NA prime when it matters we had 300+ ppt (weekends) but when you don’t really care too much you do stuff like let SoR run around fighting BG while sitting back watching your 40k lead turn into a 38k lead (which will go right back up soon as the blob of SoR goes to sleep and we can cast skills again)
I love the our NA crew doesn’t try during the week but every other timezone tries for some strange reason excuse from JQ. Gives me tingles inside knowing you guys need an excuse to justify your horrible NA ppt during the week.
So about that our ppt is horrible most nights we have one or two maps rocking outmanned. Sorry we aren’t stacked we just go out and have fun. If you ask anyone in JQ we don’t care for winning we care about having fun and knowing each team has our back. It’s one of the biggest thing’s for us.
Ok so being outmanned on two maps during NA primetime means you guys have a superior NA time then SoR? So you are basically just basing JQ’s whole NA primetime during the weekend when everyone is within 2k of each other before SoR’s NA signs off? Seems like you are only basing your assumptions off when JQ does best and not when you guys do bad.
I never said we had superior NA but I did say our NA would be more competitive and wouldn’t be letting you guys run away with it if we had to push. Case and point first week BG was in Tier 1. BG negated our SEA advantage and our NA closed a 10k gap in the last two days to ensure we won. This was while SoR had “superior NA” so if you guys had superior NA how did we pull that off? But I just don’t see the point of saying we can blob better than you! I mean I have literally never seen Choo run in groups of less than 30 which has to be awfully boring. I mean sure you guys get those keeps but when it comes down to it it can’t be that much fun running in groups so large that the whole map lags when there’s any fight.
I agree 100 percent with you on the blob against blob. Last night in JQ borderland we were forced to blob up to go against the EMP blob and it was a lagfest. I would say objectively that every server falls victim to this, which makes world vs worlding a bit less fun. Seems like players will do anything to win these days.
Choo talking about blobbing up that must be the most ironic thing i’ve read so far. Considering I have never seen Choo run with groups smaller than 30. Which I asked do you guys run havoc squads at all? I mean seriously I want to know! You can’t say you are forced to blob if you well do it by choice.
I can’t speak for choo but you can ask the same questions to emp or any large guild in jq and get the response your looking for.
Are you not in choo? I would expect you can speak for them. And I know for SF/WARD/AoS/EMP we would prefer not to fight blob vs blob. But when you wipe an opponent and they bring back more people to stack the deck in their favor you have to add people to combat that and it becomes an arms race. Thus my question cause I have honestly never seen a havoc group from Choo but I see a havoc group from pretty much every major JQ guild and TW usually has one (and they are all pretty tough)
Last night in JQ BL…. Choo was running with its force and Tsym was running with its own seperate force. EMP + the ENTIRE BL were in one massive 80+ zergball. We were forced to consolidate our bl forces as well to counter that.
Anyone in EMP that was there knows this to be the truth, so please do not try to argue otherwise.
Screen shot of the LAST THIRD OF THE REMAINING FORCES…..
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This isn’t true. Not even sure where you are getting that from, but I guess making up random crap on the internet is never going to go away.
Oh cmon… Don’t come with that crap of “SoR gotten stronger without receiving any transfers”, you guys were much evenly matched against TC and suddenly when people left SBI to rot you guys become a powerhouse… I think it’s just too much to be a coincidence…
TC was never evenly matched with SOR…. the week before SBI imploded…. the week before SOR received transfers from SBI, SOR beat TC by 60k points.
Covenn, never said that SOR never got transfers… he said we got transfers of like minded guilds. Not mercenary guilds that demand gold. When CD imploded just recently, several guilds came to ask gold from SOR in return for them transferring here and we refused them.
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I believe the guilds that won’t even try is because they know better and expect to be wiped.
Regarding Foo, it is obvious they didn’t even expected the outcome or they might have not accepted, as soon the ball was already rolling it would have been hard for them to honorably back away from these fights even if they wanted.I work really early hours (4am est) so on the weekends I get to see FoO in action often and I can say, without reservation, they are more than a zerg. Yes, they have huge numbers. Yes, as any large guild of that size, skill level varies. Same as in any large western guild.
However, when it comes to discipline and organization, sheer points producing potential, I think they kick NA’s butt. When’s the last time you saw a group from NA do sentry duty at a camp? Sure maybe a person will watch a door, maybe player will patrol a yaks route. FoO will set up a 5 man in every camp with a response team ready to be there in 30 seconds. Heck they even have a sentry or two on each yak. Basically, a solo hunter like me can’t do jack but gank the occasional solo on their way to doing something productive and responsible. Basically, they’re an army and we’re just roaming barbarians. Any NA guild could learn a thing or two. Sure, in a wild fight we beat em.. But I think taking a keep from them would be miserable.
What they do, standing bored at an objective, takes pride. They ENJOY it, because it’s winning. And I do believe that pride would also require them to keep coming back, even if they lose, until they do beat us.
I guess we’ll find out Sunday, eh?Right now these tactics are one of the major reasons JQ is winning. Sure we make full use of our stronger timezones and appear to have some better numbers at times as well but we defend and upgrade our stuff better than the other two servers and so hold onto to points for longer. Each timezone tries to hand off something for the previous timezone to work with.
Heh. Your statement above still comes down to numbers advantage. More eyes and ears as scouts on the road thus covering more land area. Extra bodies to run supplies, upgrades etc.
Did you miss last weeks reset night? Up until 4am all 3 servers were neck and neck as every NA player packed the queues for each. Was a less then 2k difference when I went to bed. Woke up the following morning around 11am central to see the lead balloon to 12k JQ advantage, lol. How do you think this happened? From your Asian crew defending and upgrading? haha.
Anyhoo, we had similar advantage when we were on T2 and the games grew stale fast pounding on doors with little resistance so much prefer having the greater number of opponents to go against so keep those bandwagon transfers coming JQ!
You went to sleep early, but many wvw players who enjoy the game do not sleep on their normal hours on a Friday/Saturday. I personally played until almost 4am (of course not 11 straight hours).
One of the points Kreen makes that probably isn’t happening on SOR is that, on JQ, the players from the different time zones try to help each other out by doing the little things like escorting yaks to upgrade to pass on next time zone, managing the hours to try to log in during the server’s weaker coverage hours, etc.
At least from what I have seen on the forum, SOR does their normal thing during their normal hours and then points the finger at their weaker time zone players and blames them for the reason why they’re losing. I’ve read some SOR players calling their other time zones “disorganized” or trying to kick their other time zone players out of their server just to give them a better chance of winning instead of actually trying to help them out.
I can assure you our NA do try their best to help our weaker timezones. I dont know where you got that from.
You probably don’t follow the forum all that much. There were some NA players from SOR who wanted to kick all non-NA players from NA servers just so they will have a better chance at winning. There was a huge discussion about it a few days ago.
It wasnt a huge discussion…. it was one player from SOR who said that….then the trolls jumped on it etc.
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A lot of people are defending or inviting me to their T2 server. I didn’t mean my post to come off as FA or T2 “sucks” – because that is far far from the truth. It is really a great server and I may end up staying. Depending how much more coverage T1 has.
I guess my main question is how do the T1 servers stack up for SEA/EU primetime play? What are queue times like during NA primetime? I don’t really care about the overall winning server. I don’t care about PPT when I play. I do care about being in a good group and controlling the map I’m on during my play sessions.
Slightly unrelated note – I know JQ is rated #1 but during NA primetime, SoR seems to be topdog. I’m slightly partial to JQ because I started there but overall strength (with equal numbers) I think SoR has it covered. What concerns me about SoR is meeting JQ head on during non-NA primetime and it being 300 vs 100. I also missed a lot of the WvW drama of guild movings and don’t understand why/how SoR is #2 now and it concerns me slightly that guilds might jump the ship to another “FOTM” server.
SOR is definitely not a FOTM server, it took us a long time to build up our community to get from rank 17 to rank 2. Our server went through 11 straight weeks of being beaten down by Blackgate in tier 2 and we came out stronger….. stronger than Blackgate even.
BG and SOR have enough organized SEA prime players to crush any other server other than JQ.
SOR has a havoc type guild during SEA (AFS) and more direct assault guilds like (NYS) and (SAHP). But dont kid yourself….. whether you join BG or SOR, you will face overwhelming numbers from JQ.
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As long as we beat BG, Im happy. There is simply nothing SOR can do to beat JQ at this moment without pulling ridiculous hours in wvw. We will bide our time, while building our numbers and tactics. When the time is right we will strike.
I get IMMENSE satisfaction beating BG anyway, so losing to JQ isn’t something I take too hard. Losing to BG on the other hand, would induce massive nerdrage.
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DONT nerf this… Its one of the few ways in the game that a much smaller force can take out a larger one.
This game already favors zerging far too much.
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Me and my guild are on Avlin rock and we have been facing Borilas pass and Emery bay for the last 3 weeks now….It is terribly silly. They both are high pop servers and we contently get zerged everywhere. No matter what Anvil rock does. We simply do not have the number to compete with them even on the weekends, which is the biggest turn out.
I would really like that high pop servers and low pop servers never face each other. It is starting to make WvW very uninteresting and not worth doing.
You would be getting zerged ALOT harder by anyone else above ur tier. The rankings right now are relatively accurate.
Here is a little experiment for you. Name what two other servers you would rather face?
Whichever you would name.. either you would get zerged harder, or you would be on the other end zerging the crap out of ur enemies.
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Anything that restricts players from entering wvw is a bad idea period. They need to change the scoring so a heavily outmanned team can close the gap on ppt.
One example, make havoc teams contribute more to ppt…. Yaks worth more points… make capping a supply camp add points etc.
I personally like the differences in coverage amongst servers, it adds “personality” to each one and gives the server a goal to work towards.
SOR was ranked 17th, through recruiting and server organization etc we are in tier 1 now.
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TC was never competitive with SOR… the first week with sbi in tier 2, which is the week i believe you are referring to ( SOR received large transfers the week after)… TC lost to SOR by 74k points….
I think they were referring to the 2 weeks prior to that when SoR and TC had close scores.
Those weeks were like the tail end of us getting beaten for 9 weeks prior by blackgate…. massive burnout and a huge meh attitude were commonplace. TC meanwhile was all gungho for being in tier 2. I would take those results with a grain of salt.
Actually, this is a nice illustration of the effect morale can have in wvw….
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Server transfers are part of the game. Those getting the transfers are happy, and those that aren’t are mad. I’ve been on TC since beta weekend 2, and I really don’t care who goes where. I’ll show up for the fighting one way or another. I remember a time in T2 when we were competitive with SoR, and they get a huge amount of transfers literally overnight. We were smashed flat. I also remember a time that KN got transfers and Fort Aspenwood got transfers. A lot of people from FA bad mouth our server constantly. They twist what we say into something we didn’t mean, and they find new ways to insult us every week. We continue forward and play the game and nothing you say here is going to change us and stop the fun. Peace.
EDIT: For what its worth, TC got where it is without big transfers for a long time. We gained DIS (which I joined recently and is a great guild), and lost a big guild that went to a lower tier (a guild that was formerly a T1 guild!). Other than small transfers, we haven’t really gotten many. So yeah, we have been on the bad end of the transfer game many times and I’m sure we will again. I don’t really care about which tier we are in, as long as there are people to fight and fun to be had.
TC was never competitive with SOR… the first week with sbi in tier 2, which is the week i believe you are referring to ( SOR received large transfers the week after)… TC lost to SOR by 74k points….
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As a shout heal, soldier rune warrior, with traited warhorn for condition removal…. i just…. wait for it…… a little more…. “Shake it off!” aahahahahahah
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Organized guilds running during NA time
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- Choo: 40+
- TW/TWL 50+
- TSYM: 60+
- SHAP : 40+
- SSQ : 25+
- FEAR: 50+
- SIN: 20+
- CDS: 20+
- HIRE: 15+
- Hal: 20+
- Plum: 30+
- GSCH: 30+
Lets see whats wrong with here.
You listed two asian guilds that are never on during NA prime, SAHP and SSQ. SiN I’ve never seen field more than 5-10, HIRE is rarely in force outside Oceanic hours, Hal should be Hel, PLUM fields like…five people on a good day, maybe if you replace them with HL, I don’t think HL runs 30 tho, GSCH does not come every night but they do normally come in a larger force.
Some of the other guilds numbers you say seem a bit off too. Oh and this comes from probably one of the most active people on SoR.
I agree, our SEA fights hard everyday, I love the mornings when I am able to run with FOO. Waha really is committed to just dominating our enemies regardless of the score. Our other timezone leaders could learn a lot from his example. If we operated more like our SEA guilds, our maps would probably be green almost 24/7.
Yeah, it must be hard when you have a massive zerg, one of the other sides is slowly dying, and the other doesn’t have the same amount of SEA as you. Don’t you dare down talk your other leaders, they try hard to get points. They actually have to fight things for PPT.
Are you trying to say only reason our SEA performs is because they are un-opposed? If so, that is wrong and you know it. Our SEA is probably the most organized of any server and that’s the reason we win that time slot.
Im going to agree with this somewhat…… alot of people during SEA prime arent on TS in SOR, and are much more fragmented than i’d like it to be. I think that is the biggest difference.
FOO worked extremely hard unifying our SEA coverage to become as organized as they are. Some nights they all run FoO or FOO tag’s but that doesn’t mean they originated as FOO some are HD/KE/FS and others and then there is DC which also worked extremely hard unifying people of similar languages together. This coupled with the fact that they both have translators to translate to their respective language it allows for our SEA to be as coordinated as you see.
just some insight.
But, JQ SEA has a MASSIVE MASSIVE numbers advantage as well……
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Organized guilds running during NA time
SoR
- Choo: 40+
- TW/TWL 50+
- TSYM: 60+
- SHAP : 40+
- SSQ : 25+
- FEAR: 50+
- SIN: 20+
- CDS: 20+
- HIRE: 15+
- Hal: 20+
- Plum: 30+
- GSCH: 30+
Lets see whats wrong with here.
You listed two asian guilds that are never on during NA prime, SAHP and SSQ. SiN I’ve never seen field more than 5-10, HIRE is rarely in force outside Oceanic hours, Hal should be Hel, PLUM fields like…five people on a good day, maybe if you replace them with HL, I don’t think HL runs 30 tho, GSCH does not come every night but they do normally come in a larger force.
Some of the other guilds numbers you say seem a bit off too. Oh and this comes from probably one of the most active people on SoR.
I agree, our SEA fights hard everyday, I love the mornings when I am able to run with FOO. Waha really is committed to just dominating our enemies regardless of the score. Our other timezone leaders could learn a lot from his example. If we operated more like our SEA guilds, our maps would probably be green almost 24/7.
Yeah, it must be hard when you have a massive zerg, one of the other sides is slowly dying, and the other doesn’t have the same amount of SEA as you. Don’t you dare down talk your other leaders, they try hard to get points. They actually have to fight things for PPT.
Are you trying to say only reason our SEA performs is because they are un-opposed? If so, that is wrong and you know it. Our SEA is probably the most organized of any server and that’s the reason we win that time slot.
Im going to agree with this somewhat…… alot of people during SEA prime arent on TS in SOR, and are much more fragmented than i’d like it to be. I think that is the biggest difference.
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According to my proprietary, internal, highly classified metrics….. SOR comes out as the clear winner this week decisively over JQ. BG is in a far far far, beyond the field of vision, distant third place.
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Having fun playing dive commander afrochoo at our spawn in SoR BL
Hey that’s one of my favorite pass times too! The best part is when he realizes running is futile and tries to pew pew you for a second or two before going down.
Hopefully Choo’s spawn camping is going a little better than HL’s in EBG. Our five man guild is routinely destroying them. Stick to the zerg, guys. It suits you better.
We sat at your spawn for literally 2 hours, building ballistas, AC’s and generally just embarrassing whatever you threw our way (that is until you brought 2x our numbers of course).
And the only time we had a bit of trouble on even numbers was when 4 or so D/D eles were sent at us (GC mesmer/thieves).
That would be my guild. And I wouldn’t call it “a bit of trouble”, but maybe it’s just a matter of perspective.
You showed up towards the last 10 minutes of our 2 hour trip to your spawn? That of course gives you perspective on the previous 1 hour 50 minutes where your servermates were running into our traps/5 man portal bombs (LOL) left and right.
Keep up the good work killing a couple of glass cannon mesmers bro, legendary players right here.
lol you clowns get wrecked in small man groups so much you shouldn’t even be talking
Are you the guy that keeps calling other people clowns on the guru forums? Just curious.
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Come help us fight the JQ SEA zerg! We are able to stop them on one BL thanks to the incredible play of our SEA/Oceanic community but we need to fight them on other fronts as well.
We need more guilds to field credible offensives while we hold the line elsewhere. Message Indo xx, or tytos hill for more information about what SOR can offer your guild.
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Hire at work.. the funny thing is I don’t think you even needed to resort to such actions with the size of the force you had
That was me actually arrowcarting your siege through the gap above the door…. we placed an AC right up to the left of the entrance. Please learn wvw mechanics before you throw out accusations.
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So, this evening, I step on to BG BL, apparently the moment after we lost hills. This sparked something in me that hasn’t happened in a while…I…get to do…whatever the hell I want!!! WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!! Okay, I’ll break a series of events tonight for everyone, this was epic as hell and really fun!
Map analysis upon entry
JQ owns – Garrison (LOL???)/SE Tower
SoR owns – Bay/SW Tower/Hills
BG owns – NW Tower/NE TowerSeries of events from the Jedspective (For those who don’t know me I’m a JQ Commander):
Accidentally build 3 ballista infront of SW sup camp, get portal bombed and somehow win?
Hit multiple spots on SoR Bay
BG takes Garrison…aww poor JQ down to the wittle Tower
SoR flips Garrison shortly thereafter somewhere as we strolled in their hole…I’ll leave that one alone…
Take hills
Lose tower to SoR via side catty’s (anyone wanna kill those? Nah, we’ll leave them for later so we can lose it again! Awesome, let’s go!)
Go to take tower
BG breaks in hills kitten !!)
BG dies in hills
Guildie: Been a while for a good fight huh Jed?
Jed: WOOOOOOOOOOOOO
Flip Hills and SE Tower at the exact same time…it was like orga…nvm..
Lose SE Tower to those catty’s that we uhhh left there on purpose!
Lose Hills somewhere in there again, who forgot to post up scouts…ahhh kitten .
BG breaks in to Bay and hits SE Supply
We lose SE Supply
Mance ninjas Garrison twice in here somewhere with like 7 ppl!
Take SE Tower somewhere in there
OJ’s still in Bay
Flip fully upgraded SW Tower, woot finally productive again!
Throughout all of this, multiple attempts on Bay, good defenses put up by SoR, GJ guysAll in all, tonight was extremely fun, thanks for the matchup all! To all the random servermates that followed the blue shiny tonight, thanks for joinin in on ze fun!
That take of briar was a scouting error on our part..
“Eyes on white swords, briar”
“Briar is clear”
10 seconds later…..
“Briar gate is at 15%, 40 JQ” :/ Needless to say we werent able to get there in time and form any kind of rally, forcing us to circle dive into the meat grinder.
6:12 am EST time we still own bay.
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SoR does feel the pressure from FoO. And we deal with that pressure. Sometimes we are able to beat them off, sometimes we cant.
Your Garrison isn’t #1 on their hit list every night was more my point.
We do see them hit you, but your BL is never green unless we’ve got nothing on the map and no one to fight them.
I can think of other reasons our garrison isnt green…. like um…. we defend it?
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I think the more apparent double team that we see on BG is during the SEA hours.
If we are going to be realistic, the effort FoO puts forth carries JQ. It’s the same effort that MERC put forth on SoS (except with triple the numbers). The borderlands get reset during SEA time, waypoints go up, and NA holds. JQ has a lot more players though, so EU and late-NA are not ghost towns.
The problem is that FoO goes from JQ BL Blue ->BG BL Garrison -> Blue keeps elsewhere -> done. We can’t hold (unless our NA’s stay up) T3 keeps against 3 queued borderlands, and this pressure is not felt by SoR.
The other maps/timezones, it’s a matter of who is commanding and what the situation is, but I don’t think 2v1 or double team is ever usually said unless it is to invoke it on JQ.
If SoR wants to win (and subsequently, utilize its new SEA transfers) you’re going to need to scout where BG is getting pushed and instantly mobilize to take T3 stuff from JQ. If FoO can be pressured during that timezone then they can no longer make every map green. You may be inviting them to attack you for the first time, but you’ll never win without shutting them down.
JQ has an equal sized zerg in sor BL when foo is in BG BL…. trust me, we feel the pressure.
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I mean kitten double 3 days straight and SoR barely ahead as of yesterday and still they think theyre good? ya’ll so funny =) just point at the score thats all you need but dont say anyhting about ya’lls wvw is as good as ours
Are you complaining about being double teamed? We get double teamed too. All night, every night, JQ and BG attacking us at the same time from opposite sides of the map. Imagine that…..
Also, you confuse points with ability like many people. The score doesn’t mean jack when it comes to your ability to fight. You don’t get points for killing people.
huh your like the King of taking what ppl say out of context master Covenn, I never complained about being double teamed..its like a compliment isnt it? To be double teamed means to be feared. and surely your not going to imply that forces being = that either JQ or SoR can match our best commanders on the field?
IF I had a wish that could come true it would be for the leaders of all 3 realms to agree to an EB 3 way TOURNEY with rules mind you.
Each server puts up 1000 gold.
3 teams 50+ each led by each realms chosen commander
All 3 running the map for position until one engages the other
No interference. Once two teams have engaged the other must pull off and reset at WP
First team to lose to both servers or twice to same realm is out.
After that its best 2 out of 3 engagements for the remaining two realmsWinner takes all! Losing realms commanders must send alts to the victors LA named after their char and server and announce they are there to pay the debt of 1000 g.
just a rough idea but imagine the FUN! no PPT.. no pop BS no alliances.. just hard hitting fun
ah to dream
The funniest things about your posts are that…
a) You think that being double teamed means to be feared
b) Blackgate has the best commanders
When in reality…You get double teamed because
a) You are the weakest
b) Your bad commanders made tactically unsound decisions, and put you in a position to be double teamed.
WvW 101 for you.
JQ WvW
Hey all.
I just enjoyed my first day as a commander on SoR borderland. I’d like to thank the endless hordes of SOR who pinned us down into our own spawn after a great Briar fight. really good fights there, i think we smashed a couple of trebs, catas, rams and golems before we finally broke.
After that i would like to give mad props to everyone from my own server that refused to run, but fight on, capping camps at first and then rushing bay and T3 Longview tower and capping it.
In the course of 1 hr we went from being pinned down in spawn to trebbing garri from Longview.
Thx for the fights both SoR and JQ. I hope i can have many more of these epic hours as a commander :-)
More like 4 hours, but meh who is counting.
JQ WvW
SOR definitely has a bigger oceanic presence in wvw than blackgate at this point.
JQ WvW
We’ve taken BG keep everyday on EB, nothing special about it anymore.
Another thing, SoR needs to goto Tier 2, this JQ SoR alliance and JQ always winning isn’t really fun anymore, I like to actually feel like I’m making a difference and not, oops JQ wins again because we tag team BG.
Im getting too used to 2v1 posts… i just dont get the same lulz anymore from them. Can someone please come up with something that will give me more lulz.
JQ WvW
The only reason BG is ahead is because JQ and SOR…. talked about it in great detail, and decided because it was a holiday weekend, to stop 2v1’ing you.
BUT… get ready because its not a holiday anymore, so you will be 2v1’d pretty hard now. I wish you the best of luck….. maybe even wish you double the luck, since you will need double to counter the 2v1.
JQ WvW
Im sure Anet is aware of the issue. Can we get a reply on whether or not they are even attempting a fix for skill lag?
WVW for me is broken and unplayable. I play a shout heals with soldier runes warrior as my guild asks of me. I cannot shout so…. my char is broken> broken game.
Honestly, if skill lag isnt fixed, i will be out of here when ESO comes around ( and im sure a ton of others as well). I just want to know if its even worth investing in my character anymore?
JQ WvW
So this is like the 16th time the trolls predicted BG was dead and imploding and the 16th time they were wrong.
More like SoR is imploding and BG hurting them.
You should see outside the super fun box…..
And i dont blame them…tried it today for the first time for like 15 min and it was a very nice change of pace.
wvw for me personally is unplayable because of the skill lag.
JQ WvW
Not only are the titles above players annoying, but the extremely and unnecessarily long name players are unneeded.
TBH Names should just say “Invader [Tag]” and it should be the color of your server’s place (red/blue/green).
I can’t even see in a 30+vs30+ zerg fight because you see “Sanctum of Rall Invader [Tag]” and it covers your entire screen. Seriously…
How can you see sanctum of rall invader tag if you are on SOR?
JQ WvW
In tier 1, the scouts, by far……… they are the key to maximizing ppt with minimal force, especially during your server’s off hours.
JQ WvW