Guild Wars 2

Jockum.1385:

It doesn’t matter if HoT is an expansion or not. If it is an expansion it should have more dungeons than classic GW2 has. And a similar amount of maps.
If only a small amount of content is added you call it a DLC.

What’s your basis for this?

When looking at that spreadsheet, keep in mind that they have it set to you doing 10 each round. Your results will vary depending on your proficiency.

You can complete the JP 16 times if you’re in an empty map and RNG favors you with the snowflake at the beginning. That’s the only part with significant enough RNG to impact you. You most certainly can get 15 without any issue. It’s not that difficult to be consistent at the JP. Then again, I’m only speaking about myself so I don’t know how it is for everyone else.

Chrono.6928:

Raziel.4216:

Manthas.6234:

Icdan Sevaen.4628:

Chrono.6928:

azizul.8469:

err.. Faction is a stand alone campaign, not an expansion.. you can play it on its own, no need Prophecies….

It was BOTH a standalone game and an expansion. Ha another thing they did right over HoT no one would say its a stand alone game, even if it could not enough content.

Nah, it was just straight up a standalone campaign. EOTN was the only expansion GW1 got.

Oh, who cares anyway? This fact only gives more credit to how superior Factions as an expansion (yeah yeah, “standalone campaign”) was compared to HOT.

Anet has already said that HoT is an expansion like EoTN, any comparisson with standalone campaigns will be unfair. One requires a base game and one doesn’t, one adds as much as the base game and one doesn’t.
That’s like comparing Diablo 2:LoD with Diablo 3, or Diablo 3:RoS with Diablo 2, it’d be pointless we all know the result before we even start, we’d have to compare Diablo 2 LoD with Diablo 3 RoS.

There’s an old post comparing the gw1 expansion with the gw2 expansion, I’ll repost it now.

Except EoTN had what over 20 new dungeons? HoT has umm zero and 1 raid.

I’d consider a single map since those dungeons were copy and pasted. Many parts in one dungeon was identical to that of another.

Daddicus.6128:

Andred.1087:

You can still do any of it at your own pace. It just might take longer than you want it to. And that is not ANet’s problem.

No, we can’t. HoT is gated behind things that require a lot of other people on a strict clock.

And, we can’t go back because the rewards have been crushed.

That would be rewards and not content. The vast majority of rewards can be earned without needing other players.

What rewards are gated other than the Rev head piece and what involves DS.

Daddicus.6128:

Ayrilana.1396:

Exactly where are you forced by the game to need ascended to do content other than high level fractals? Player created requirements do not count. I could require all players to fight with pink armor but that doesn’t mean it’s actually required for that content.

You can complete all content, other than raids, in whatever build that you want. Everything on the HoT maps can now be done in whatever build you want. Every class can complete any of the HoT content. I’ve done map completion, ran the story, and done metas with all of them. You can do PvP and WvW in any build that you want. Yes, some builds will be more effective than others.

Why are you excluding player-created requirements? Raids are out of the question unless you have maxed your gear, because there are no teams that will allow you to come with them. You are excluding the main source of angst over this.

Because if the meta were to be that players needed to wear pink armor to do raids, that would not mean that they could not be completed without that. It’s a player made restriction that has nothing to do with the design of the raids.

Khisanth.2948:

Ayrilana.1396:

Khisanth.2948:

Ayrilana.1396:

Slowpokeking.8720:

Ayrilana.1396:

It’s impossible to do it with that many. Some people like to do challenging metas with large groups of players (50+). I can also use that statement and suggest if you don’t like challenging content then to bring more people. If you have the max amount then bring more skilled players. I’m pretty sure that last one was going to be your response when I said 11 players wasn’t possible.

Then bring 12 or whatever it is doable and challenging, take out ur gear as well.

You can’t bring more skilled players, open world map doesn’t work that way.

Yeah you can. Instead of having unskilled players (not trying to offend) when you fill the map, you bring skilled ones.

Did you read the patch notes?

Fixed an issue that was causing the chak gerents to scale too aggressively when players joined their lanes.

In this case bringing more players would likely have had the opposite effect …

Was referring to the map itself and not just flooding a lane with people.

Not seeing a difference. More people in the map evenly divided into the same number of lanes should equal to more people per lane.

There’s a difference between having 90 people on a map spread across 4 lanes and 90 people in a single lane.

NayNay.7680:

Then consider EotN

Still more content than HoT

Maybe armor sets depending on how you want to count them. HoT still had far more content and awards.

NayNay.7680:

Factions could be played by itself or as added content.

Regardless of how anyone played it, the amount of content it gave for it’s purchase price puts HoT to shame.

Like any standalone game does to any expansion.

Nilkemia.8507:

Ayrilana.1396:

And for those that like challenges that require groups larger than 10 players?

Triple Trouble Wurm is in Bloodtide Coast waiting for them. Or WvW…overcoming the sheer horridness of that mode is a challenge in and of itself, haha.

And no reason there couldn’t be more.

Khisanth.2948:

Ayrilana.1396:

Slowpokeking.8720:

Ayrilana.1396:

It’s impossible to do it with that many. Some people like to do challenging metas with large groups of players (50+). I can also use that statement and suggest if you don’t like challenging content then to bring more people. If you have the max amount then bring more skilled players. I’m pretty sure that last one was going to be your response when I said 11 players wasn’t possible.

Then bring 12 or whatever it is doable and challenging, take out ur gear as well.

You can’t bring more skilled players, open world map doesn’t work that way.

Yeah you can. Instead of having unskilled players (not trying to offend) when you fill the map, you bring skilled ones.

Did you read the patch notes?

Fixed an issue that was causing the chak gerents to scale too aggressively when players joined their lanes.

In this case bringing more players would likely have had the opposite effect …

Was referring to the map itself and not just flooding a lane with people.

I haven’t experienced the issues with the gifts but I did see invisible boulders. I just wait until the next one passes by since you do have time. I’ve noticed that the graphic for that Boulder sometimes gets “stuck” by the large peppermint platform near the end.

Dogwog.6801:

All achievements in Historical cannot be progressed

Has that been proven that it’s because they’re specifically there or could it be that the way to complete them is no longer available?

The drinks really are not time-gated though. Not like the ones that require the Wintersday event to be active.

Slowpokeking.8720:

Ayrilana.1396:

It’s impossible to do it with that many. Some people like to do challenging metas with large groups of players (50+). I can also use that statement and suggest if you don’t like challenging content then to bring more people. If you have the max amount then bring more skilled players. I’m pretty sure that last one was going to be your response when I said 11 players wasn’t possible.

Then bring 12 or whatever it is doable and challenging, take out ur gear as well.

You can’t bring more skilled players, open world map doesn’t work that way.

Yeah you can. Instead of having unskilled players (not trying to offend) when you fill the map, you bring skilled ones.

They would go to historical but you may be able to still complete those ones. Historical is just a category and I don’t thing they disable achievements from being able to be completed. I could be wrong though so perhaps you may get an official response.

Who said that it couldn’t be done this year for those that didn’t do it last year?

Slowpokeking.8720:

Ayrilana.1396:

And for those that like challenges that require groups larger than 10 players?

Bring 11 players to try the gerent.

It’s impossible to do it with that many. Some people like to do challenging metas with large groups of players (50+). I can also use that statement and suggest if you don’t like challenging content then to bring more people. If you have the max amount then bring more skilled players. I’m pretty sure that last one was going to be your response when I said 11 players wasn’t possible.

Be aware that people complained about factions like they are about HoT.

People hate HoT’s final instance. Here’s just one complaint thread as example about how some people disliked Faction’s final mission.

http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/factions-worst-last-mission-ever-t10249312.html

Also…

http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/why-do-so-many-hate-t10213433.html
http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/expansion-for-factions-t10254858.html
http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/prophecies-vs-faction-t10114478.html

My guess is the 12th.

Dashingsteel.3410:

If they would award tokens each time you complete a festival event( bell choir, windersday jp, infinitarium, snowball fight) and then have a token requirement to get the collectibles. That way people could have played the content they enjoyed and get the skin too.

It’ll be a grind but I guess it wouldn’t be so bad as you’re doing the content that you enjoy.

There is a chance they might just send you one but no guarantees.

Calanthe.3857:

To ArenaNet: Last year I did the achievement For the Children! and got the Wintersday tree and Star of Gratitude. Months later I planned to leave the game and deleted the character who had the Star in their inventory. Just wondering…can I get the Star of Gratitude again if I have another character complete the achievement this year?

Better to email customer support.

You don’t see them as their DPS isn’t the greatest as others and other classes provide better group support. You’ll almost always see Revenant in a raid group. Probably a discussion more fitting in the raid forum. I haven’t really put much effort into raids other than a couple hours every week so I wouldn’t hold what I say as concrete.

Slowpokeking.8720:

Blood Red Arachnid.2493:

I’m a bit conflicted about the update myself.

On the one hand, I enjoyed the thrill of the difficulty. A successful run truly felt like an achievement. It wasn’t impossible by any stretch. you just needed everybody on the same page. The “high DPS, pay attention” page. but once you got that organization together, it was beautiful.

On the other hand, my complaint is in essence that more people get to do the event successfully and more frequently. There’s nothing inherently wrong with that. I’ve been on enough pug runs to know that getting a successful kill out of randoms was incredibly tough, and now more people get to do it.

The real question I have is this: It that O.K.? My general experience with randoms is that they are hard because they are undergeared, poorly built, and don’t listen. I’ve been lobbying for a general increase in difficulty because faceroll easy is boring and doesn’t hold interest. King of the Jungle was one of those events. You had to try to beat it.

Go to raid if you want challenge.

And for those that like challenges that require groups larger than 10 players?

Or they can remove that achievement but the collection awards you the recipe which then requires you to spend the same amount of gold in components.

Gifts are available year round and there’s the tree in the home instance that can be done daily. There’s also next year.

Anet can probably remove the LFG sections for PvP and WvW as I have never seen them used. I could be wrong though.

Both. They each have their pros and cons.

Exactly where are you forced by the game to need ascended to do content other than high level fractals? Player created requirements do not count. I could require all players to fight with pink armor but that doesn’t mean it’s actually required for that content.

You can complete all content, other than raids, in whatever build that you want. Everything on the HoT maps can now be done in whatever build you want. Every class can complete any of the HoT content. I’ve done map completion, ran the story, and done metas with all of them. You can do PvP and WvW in any build that you want. Yes, some builds will be more effective than others.

What’s the average time that people are taking to complete the Tixx Infinarium?

Rauderi.8706:

Ayrilana.1396:

Rauderi.8706:

Ayrilana.1396:

Celtic Lady.3729:

Considering the source, I don’t think this is much of a compliment. lol

If they highly criticized the expansion would you still hold the same opinion of them?

It certainly would seem less biased if they did.

I mean, ESO for “top MMO”? Yeeaahh.. someone’s either gotten paid or is trolling awful ruddy hard.

So they’re now biased because their opinion disagrees with another?

I’m just under the impression that a one of anything that favors the expansion is held less credible simply because they going against the opinion from a segment of the player population. It’s not a really a new thing as you see it out in the real world too.

/shrug

It really is one doof’s opinion, so he’s free to exalt what he feels is “the top,” but we need to be honest about what’s out there. While HoT offered a lot of character options and some gameplay content (with the promise of more), it fractured the player base instead of rousing it.

Adventures are a flop.
Time gating is a flop.
Of the 4 maps released, most of the content is hidden or unreachable, burying one of the things that was awesome about GW2: exploration.
Some mobs are overtuned to the point of being obnoxious.

The actual expansion content is the least desirable thing about it. Not exactly something I’d vote as “best of the year.” I hadn’t checked on the recent buzz about Heavensward, but at release, it was well acclaimed. Within two weeks, HoT had successfully cleaved into its player base.

As for ESO as MMO of the year, well.. voting for that steaming pile indicates judgment impairment. But eh, who knows, maybe they managed to pull a reformation the way FFXIV did and actually made it good.

It’s all subjective. What could be awesome to one person could be horrible to another. There’s no one website that can really be held as the definitive answer to whether the expansion is good or not.

LanfearShadowflame.3189:

Ayrilana.1396:

Mandalore.8906:

That’s 500 Drinks a day. I’ve been doing Festival stuff for the last 7 hours straight and only got around 300. That’s kittening ridiculous.

You get 10 gifts each time you complete the JP which is about 300 gifts per hour if you’re good at it. Probably the most efficient way to get those drinks.

Which…I am totally not (good at it). Lol

You and most other people. Especially as some can’t even complete it once. It’s just an option for those than can.

Mandalore.8906:

That’s 500 Drinks a day. I’ve been doing Festival stuff for the last 7 hours straight and only got around 300. That’s kittening ridiculous.

You get 10 gifts each time you complete the JP which is about 300 gifts per hour if you’re good at it. Probably the most efficient way to get those drinks. It’ll take nearly 42 hours to farm enough drinks assuming each gift has an 80% chance to provide one point.

There’s the DPS DH and then there’s the celestial tank. Guardian DPS is lower than DH.

http://metabattle.com/wiki/MetaBattle_Wiki

I’d make a more descriptive and meaningful title but the character count restriction is preventing me from doing so.

Anyway, I wanted to make a suggestion that I hope would be easy to implement and could resolve some (but not all) of the headache that some players are experiencing in regards to map participation. This is not a suggestion about keeping participation if you DC. That needs its own thread.

Currently players are losing their map participation when moving to another instance of that same map. Often times we get the map closure after the final meta so we either move to the new instance or wait out the hour timer and then be forced to move to one. The instance also doesn’t accumulate new players to the map as I have often spent an hour or so doing events by myself to pretty much see nobody else anywhere on the map.

Would it be possible to allow map participation to persist through the many instances of the map so long as you don’t leave that map (e.g. Leave VB to AB)?

cakemonkey.6347:

Supernaut.2684:

Crimson Clouds.4853:

Down-talking people who cannot complete it is plain harmful.

People in this game have different abilities. Some people can’t do such JPs because their reaction times are too slow, have poor co-ordination, their rigs/peripherals may not be great, they may have poor internet connection and high ping… some may have a disability that prevents them from completing things as easily as the average folk.

QFT

This.

JPs have been a hot topic since game came out. The reality is, not everyone can do them. So locking content behind them is bad form. You’d have thought the developers would have figured that out.

But then look at the expansion.

Content? Do you mean rewards?

Rauderi.8706:

Ayrilana.1396:

Celtic Lady.3729:

Considering the source, I don’t think this is much of a compliment. lol

If they highly criticized the expansion would you still hold the same opinion of them?

It certainly would seem less biased if they did.

I mean, ESO for “top MMO”? Yeeaahh.. someone’s either gotten paid or is trolling awful ruddy hard.

So they’re now biased because their opinion disagrees with another?

I’m just under the impression that a one of anything that favors the expansion is held less credible simply because they going against the opinion from a segment of the player population. It’s not a really a new thing as you see it out in the real world too.

Holiday events have historically been recycled for the past 10 years. Why would people start thinking now that this one would be any different?

There’s nothing wrong with having challenging content in the open world. And I don’t ramen challenging and the level as raids. The TD meta was not all that difficult to do and pugs were starting to get the hang of it. Now a lot of the fun from doing it is gone as it’s another one of those where you can faceroll through it.

Celtic Lady.3729:

Considering the source, I don’t think this is much of a compliment. lol

If they highly criticized the expansion would you still hold the same opinion of them?

I can guarantee that the JP will not be removed from being required. If the JP were removed, this would open the door for people to argue for everything else to be removed.

As far as rubber banding and latency, out your settings to the lowest and close all background programs. I have not had this issue so it’s something on your end whether it be your PC or your internet connection.

My advice for the presents is to jump as soon as they spawn. That’s what I started doing and I consistently get past them without any issue. Sometimes there’s a bad spawn but it’s rare. And yes, it’s very easy when there’s nobody there as you don’t have to wait until they respawn. It’s also the only time that it’s possible to get a perfect run of 16.

It’s what a lot of people wanted. Another faceroll meta.

Eripsa.6731:

Worked my butt off to be number 1 in a 30min race and didn’t get squat for being first? That was extremly disipointing…and the 9 times I was able to make it all I gpt was some karma and 10 presents…total bummer gpt hyped up over xmas event for nothing thought it was gonna be like halloween event with some sort of sick armpr or something to get but nodda I’m just not seein the prize here any optimisom is welcome…

And if you had sold those 90 presents? You would have made 8.34 gold. Not bad for 30 minutes.

Celtic Lady.3729:

PopeUrban.2578:

warduke.1780:

Ayrilana.1396:

warduke.1780:

Ayrilana.1396:

warduke.1780:

Ayrilana.1396:

1) There have been threads with players complaining about being harassed when killing ambient a whether it be to complete a heart, go for the achievement, or as they’re passing through. They were not in their own bubble.

2) It could be automated and was. Not difficult to program a bot to go around in a set loop I would imagine. Bots have done more complicated things.

3) Maize farming wasn’t restricted for the reasons that you listed.

4) Doesn’t mean that this method needs to get reinstated. Have you tried node farming for lower tiered wood logs and ore?

All wrong. ArenaNet just decided to ruin “lower tiered wood logs” in their latest patch. So, they need to reinstate old methods of farming gold.

All that I said were true. Please provide source that Anet ruined lower tier wood log farming with the latest patch.

Source? Look at the prices now. Go on. Have a little look.

It’s not ruined as you can still farm it as you did before and make a decent amount of gold. It’s just not as lucrative as before with the 30G/hr. I also don’t see anything stating what the cause so how are you certain that it is Anet?

Oh the bags. Like I said, you can still farm the nodes and there’s still the T6 node farm. It’s also not the only farm.

Farming wood is now pointless, like every other farm in the game.

That’s kind of the idea.

They want you playing the game because its fun, not doing boring repetitive tasks because they make better gold.

I missed this memo. How exactly did they change the lower level wood farm?

Bags can drop wood but the major thing was that they dropped soft wood from needing 4 logs to be refined down to 2 logs.

On a separate note, it looks like the JP can net you over 30G/hr if prices on presents remain the same.

Or people can wait and collect them via the login rewards although it’d take like nine 8 months. I’m not against another source so long as it doesn’t flood the market with them. It really depends on what the demand for the coins will be mknths from now specifically for the shoulders.

Here’s a post about the Blix farm that was nerfed. Also read his subsequent post in that thread.

https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/game/gw2/About-that-blix-exploit/first#post4315297

Nick Lentz.6982:

Ayrilana.1396:

Nick Lentz.6982:

right, ice cream planet, totes in Guild wars. yet guild wars related.
the nerf was most certain not for toxic reasons. that would be absurd, unless you live in a bubble and hide in a far away cave in Tyria, They’d have to nerf/get rid of 80% of the people. Everything in this game has toxic people. That’s a mmo (surprise). People were making too much money(also surprise) so anet had to drop the hammer on it.

It was to prove a point which you missed. But fine, I’ll revise. In the same universe as Tyria, there is a planet made of ice cream. There is also a golden, shiny planet in the shape of cheese. Disagree with me? Prove me wrong.

Farms were nerfed for toxic chat before.

I would see your point, had this not been about guild wars 2…and in the Guild wars 2 universe…which is the problem.

mmmmmmmmmmmmmmm I don’t think so, unless you could prove that wrong. I have never read something being nerfed because of chat. It is an mmo, if some one gets their undies in a bind over what some one said, they need to find a new game.

The point of the the ice cream planet was to show an example of a claim and then have anyone who disagrees with it to prove me wrong. Whether or not the example itself was related to GW didn’t matter. I even revised it in a later post for you to make it GW related.

warduke.1780:

Ayrilana.1396:

warduke.1780:

Ayrilana.1396:

warduke.1780:

Ayrilana.1396:

warduke.1780:

Ayrilana.1396:

1) There have been threads with players complaining about being harassed when killing ambient a whether it be to complete a heart, go for the achievement, or as they’re passing through. They were not in their own bubble.

2) It could be automated and was. Not difficult to program a bot to go around in a set loop I would imagine. Bots have done more complicated things.

3) Maize farming wasn’t restricted for the reasons that you listed.

4) Doesn’t mean that this method needs to get reinstated. Have you tried node farming for lower tiered wood logs and ore?

All wrong. ArenaNet just decided to ruin “lower tiered wood logs” in their latest patch. So, they need to reinstate old methods of farming gold.

All that I said were true. Please provide source that Anet ruined lower tier wood log farming with the latest patch.

Source? Look at the prices now. Go on. Have a little look.

It’s not ruined as you can still farm it as you did before and make a decent amount of gold. It’s just not as lucrative as before with the 30G/hr. I also don’t see anything stating what the cause so how are you certain that it is Anet?

Oh the bags. Like I said, you can still farm the nodes and there’s still the T6 node farm. It’s also not the only farm.

Farming wood is now pointless, like every other farm in the game.

Nope. You can still do the T6 node farm. Ancient wood logs and Orichalcum ore remain relatively unchanged.

You do realize T6 nodes refresh once a day, right? Which makes them very poor to farm.

Not so much depending on how many characters you have. And like I said before, they’re not the only farm.

Nick Lentz.6982:

right, ice cream planet, totes in Guild wars. yet guild wars related.
the nerf was most certain not for toxic reasons. that would be absurd, unless you live in a bubble and hide in a far away cave in Tyria, They’d have to nerf/get rid of 80% of the people. Everything in this game has toxic people. That’s a mmo (surprise). People were making too much money(also surprise) so anet had to drop the hammer on it.

It was to prove a point which you missed. But fine, I’ll revise. In the same universe as Tyria, there is a planet made of ice cream. There is also a golden, shiny planet in the shape of cheese. Disagree with me? Prove me wrong.

Farms were nerfed for toxic chat before.