Guild Wars 2

crouze.3078:

Olba.5376:

I don’t think that’s a good idea.

I mean, who would use it for 5 stacks anyway? That’s kitten weak compared to the benefits you can get from staying in stealth with points in Shadow Arts.

+5% damage for everyone who attacks the taget isn’t that bad. And when changing heartseeker to work with vulnerability stacks, it would give you a benefit for using more then only 1 of your skills.

The damage would not be done instant like with the current backstab.
You would have to build up for your good damage making it more interesting to play and others wouldn’t complain about getting to much damage with a single hit.

No. And stop posting this crap.

knyy.6427:

Azraelle.1683:

>Evade and knock down the enemy when you are disabled (stun, daze, float, knock down, launch, knock back, sink, or fear). This effect cannot occur more than once every 90 seconds.
>90 seconds.
Lol, why not 9000 seconds? Simple autostunbreaker with low icd would be much better.
>1. Evade all attacks for 3s when you are disabled (stun, daze, float, knock down, launch, knock back, sink, or fear). This effect cannot occur more than once every 120 seconds.
Again. Why not 1200000?

Because these ideas are very strong and would be overpowered with a lower CD.

Then why not to give complete invulnerability and +10000% damage to a thief for like 10 seconds with cd of 900000 seconds? You still don’t get it?

Oh yeah, cut off all stealth builds and leave only one reliable s/d dodge spamming build.

>Evade and knock down the enemy when you are disabled (stun, daze, float, knock down, launch, knock back, sink, or fear). This effect cannot occur more than once every 90 seconds.
>90 seconds.
Lol, why not 9000 seconds? Simple autostunbreaker with low icd would be much better.
>1. Evade all attacks for 3s when you are disabled (stun, daze, float, knock down, launch, knock back, sink, or fear). This effect cannot occur more than once every 120 seconds.
Again. Why not 1200000?

>Additionally, a passive movement speed increase in Stealth may also be necessary to counteract the loss of 100% Invisibility, for the purpose of facilitating escapes and positioning-based Stealth mechanics like Backstab that would become much more difficult to pull off after the change. I would recommend integrating the +50% movement speed trait for Thieves into the Stealth mechanic itself,

WWW d/p build already use this trait and its only 17% faster than swiftness. Great escape. Great chase mechanism.

>A player in Stealth should still be untargettable by single target skills that require targetting, because without this
Almost any singletarget skill can be triggered without actual target. Your “stealth” would counter only few skills.

So to conclude you want to remove the only reliable defensive ability from the class with no access to stuns, lifeleech, little armor, small hp pool and give him in exchange ability to contest points in pvp. You are funny.

Dr Ritter.1327:

I know the damage is already done with the ascended crafting materials and raising the crafting level cap, but I feel like ascended armor should be a reward from a questline.
Expand further on the background story of ascension and how it relates to fractals. This is the perfect opportunity to give what most GW1 players want to see, a return of familiar lore and possibly enemies.

I already stuffed my bank with mats for armor crafting and now you tell ’em not to make it craftable? Srsly man.

Yeah, SB is the most versatile thief’s weapon even though they nerfed it greatly.

Aza.2105:

3. Change chilled to effect thief in some way, perhaps by increasing the initiative cost of skills by 66%.

Thief’s initiative already won’t allow him to cast ALL his 4 weapon abilities one after another. Even with 15 ini he can’t cast more than 2-3(rarely 4 cheap) abilities without using some ini regeneration abilities/traits and pauses between his strikes. And you suggest to completely turn him into spam 111111111(2 or 3 or 4 or 5)111111 class. What did you think before posting this? Did you?

According to arenanet skilllag is a major part of the game.

SOON there will be NO stealth on surface as well.

tora.3205:

Hey all, since I’ve never tried D/P because I thought it is OP (for 1vs1 ofc) I’ve made this build to solo 5-10 man zerg in WvW.
It is a bunker build with heavy damage thanks to backstab.
I still have to try it, but I was looking for a strange build to play, I’ve never seen someone with this build so I can call myself the owner of this one (maybe)
Feedback are accepted!

http://intothemists.com/guides/1248-yess_mans_bunkerbackstab_thief

Nice build. Now i’ll be able to hunt rabbits in enemy territory.

Daecollo.9578:

Evades should just cause attacks to “Glance.” like what weakness does.

When i read posts like this i can’t throw op’s photo out of my head http://i.qkme.me/3p8cde.jpg

I got TONS of dragonite ore. Like 3 or 4k dunno what to do with it.

And we should remove [DE] players from the forums.

It looks like they have a constant drop chance. I tried to salvage ’em with all type of kits and drop chance is ~15-20%

No it doesn’t. 151515151

It’s not fun to play with players from sp or de or fr or whatever servers who can’t read english. Or they were just dumb and kittened. Or trolls. But it’s really hard to do dungeons if people can’t understand you and don’t know what to do.

Nah, i don’t like pistol mainhand.

BAN OP, NERF THIEVES!!!!!!111
Actually nvm. It’s not enough. BAN EVERYONE ABOVE ME! BAN EVERY THIEF IN GAME! REMOVE THIEVES! HEAVY ARMOR FOR EVERY CLASS!

MagnusLL, keep finding excuses. You are good at it.

Magnetron Well, yeah. We had good www community, strong guilds and big numbers. I hope deso will rise again.

I love how people always can find some blatant excuses. Like “oh no, it’s not our fault, its high transfer cost QQ.” Transfer to sfr is not free too and if somebody’s really interested in transferring in good www then he’ll find 1000 or 1800 crystals. And if you you need a break from strong opponents then qq and transfer to some medium populated server. We did fine in past few months, some of our commanders did very good job. I personally enjoyed(everything but lags lags) fighting viz/piken.

Well, that’s why ppl are leaving deso. All this whining and blabbing about blobs & unskilled zergs never make pleasant atmosphere. Deso and sfr are both international servers and nothing prevented deso from making strong and big www community like sfr has now. And if our commanders can’t do kitten with low deso numbers it’s their problem not sfr’s. At least don’t blame sfr for having reliable www community.

Get yourself a dual cpu motherboard, put 2 intel xeons (5000$ each), 2 ssds raid 0, get 2 top nvidia cards (1500$ each), put 64 gigs of ram, make a ram disk, put gw2 into ram disk.

kitten called arena.net balance. Actually it’s not so hard to farm enough fragments for 1-2 weapons. 1 week of 5-6 daily jumping puzzelez and 1-2 dungeon runs and you are equiped.

Please put this boss into instance and add lfg option for him. Typical brainless pug players can’t kill him.

I spend like 100g only on ori and ancient wood. I had t6 mats and globes already.

s/d only works 1v1 or group vs group. In situations like 1vs2 its absolutely inferior to stealth builds.

Another noob is whining.

A little rock in the way will block step. Cos its kittening broken and kittening arena devs sucks kittens.

kittening ugly kitten.

Mrbig.8019:

I see tons of complains about the thief, and i can say most of them are accurate, some others totally irrilevant and wrong.

Due to “next” patch entering stealth counters when stealth itself is extremely weak, i would like to give some advices ( maybe if other good thieves could help me it would be cool) to aNet in order to balance it.

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Stealth

Altough stealth has no counterplay, it’s a very weak resource for the thief in sPvP.
You cannot cap points, and as a far point assaulter the other team just needs to leave there a good proff to proficiently fight the thief 1vs1 without losing too fast ( while points tickle for them).

Giving how bad stealth thieves are, i would go straight to the source of all problems:

SHADOW REFUGE

Nerf it or totally remove it, don’t hamper the whole profession mechanic due to team stealth stacking and stealth ambushes ( which is the only real problem).

It is also frustrating for WvWers and in PvE it has no real use if not to jump content by avoiding mobs and stacking it with blinding powder ( for double ress).

Do it.

Just do it.

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Next problem: S/D thieves

Don’t listen to people crying about Larcenous strike, it has never been a problem.

The problem is Infiltrator Strike and the ridicolous mobility it gives.

You can basically jump from a target to another in a second, disangage at will, and focus the nect one without losing too much damage ( give the high amount of sustain S/D thieves have).

A good change ( in primis) would be to make inf strike teleport to go only in orizontal axis , because it is actually ridicolous when a mesmer/ele/necro goes on a roof and you go through walls and still catch him.

Another good change would be to have shadow return available ( this is a very HARSH nerf) only if you hit your target/in range of the target to be hit ( or rather 600 range) instead of putting shadow returns everywhere in the map.

If you’re not in target range Inf strike will port you NOWHERE and you’ll stay in place

Currently this skill is brainless, just use it and port everywhere.

Let’s start to make this set skillful.

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After that, buff the freaking thief and balance it decently ( like S/P or OH dagger being horrible, and condi builds LOLOLOLOL) because we’ve been gimmicky from the start and work only with gimmicks.

Just like rangers, but without the brainless AI.

Ok, thanks.

@mods

Don’t move this thread outside PvP forum, this is specifically relevant to sPvP.

Thanks.

Not sure if troll or just stupid.

True. Stealth works against spvp mechanics and only s/d thief can perform reasonably well.

Useless trait for useless skills. Even if they make it 5000 it will still be useless.

Hm. Yes i agree.

Well, the title is self explainable.

Bump. kittening arena read this.

Yes, this is kittened arena game mechanics. Channeling spells can track you even in stealth.

No. Enough condition meta.

Because it kittening sucks. Both XI and XII acrobatics traits sucks. But “Hard to catch” double sucks. It’s random and can teleport you to even worse position, it triggers on daze, it doesn’t break stun, it doesn’t give boons. And it triggers even if you are under kittenING STABILITY EFFECT. For kittens sake do something about it. You can rework it into automatic stunbreaker with 30 seconds of ICD. Just that would make it useful.

Divinity.8041:

Everyone here usually poos on people who mentioned they played comp wow (#1 in their battle groups etc.)

Why the elitist attitude? Even in their worst state, they have more players, and competition than ours at our best state…if we ever had one.

Plz stop the hate. It is like you are arrogant saying that this game’s pvp is better than WoW or something.

While it has the potential to be better, it is FAR, FAR from being that way anytime soon sadly.

Guys need to stop hating on games with clearly better PVP and a larger player base just because you think this game is better.

WoW is a widly successful game, and you guys need to stop acting like GW2 is the second coming of Jesus, because judgement day came and went, and none of us went to heaven.

Personal opinion… I think GW2 has the potential to be awesome, it is just so far from it right now.

Stop the h8 yo

Cry more wow kitten.

It was pretty obvious.

I would prefer a normal condition cleanser.

The picture is self explainable.

I hope it will!

5/10. I actually did read it.

Switch to SB and 5,5,5 away.

DevonCarver.5370:

The mats will absolutely drop in WvW. In addition, generally speaking, we are putting a heavier emphasis on finding long-term solutions to redressing the reward imbalance between PvE and WvW. I can’t claim they will ever be 100% equal all the time, but we would like it to never be the case that you are choosing between playing WvW and getting good rewards. The two should be one in the same.

It’s been a year and yet you haven’t balanced anything. We still have only TWO www maps, we still have insane skill lag, we still have green drop from chests/blue-white from any other sources. I would fire you if i were your boss.

It was never gone.

Lyndis.2584:

I’m sorry, its totally and utterly kittened, many times where I would have won a fight while downed ruined by the IWIN stability stomp, it pretty much counter anything you might do to stop them stomping.
Stability should be broken on any kittening action taken while in stability, be it healing, attacking or stomping.
Stability stomping is the most insanely stupid kitten I have ever seen in any mmo.

Stomping itself must be stopped!!!111 Every downed player deserves a second chance so invulnerability in downed state is the only answer to it!!!11

Fix kitten asuras.