Guild Wars 2

Link doesn’t work and why would they add a great axe just for one class. Unless… unless they get a great axe as a kit. Hmmmm

EverythingXen.1835:

I literally had the game reinstalling in the background when I found this thread.

I’ve stopped it. One of the biggest changes that I thought would really change up the stale gameplay of the past years is getting lowered back down.

I’ll wait and see. Dubiously.

You literally haven’t tried it and literally have no idea what’s going to happen. Literally.

Silverkey.2078:

Hi
I first wanted to write a code to do the calculations for me (currently my code only gives me the stats + damage for each skill), but I ended up doing it manually with excel, so it takes more time and is less accurate :p
Sinister did not seem promising, the lack of crits reduced too much the amount of bleeds, which more than made up for the extra condition damage. Assassin why not, but I’m too lazy.
Else I used
http://metabattle.com/wiki/Build:Mesmer_-_S/S_/F_/P (except that I used berserker + ranger rune)
and
http://metabattle.com/wiki/Build:Mesmer_-_Dungeon_Hybrid
I did not put any food. I assume 25 mights, 25 vuln for the minor in domination (not for the overall damage, but just scale it by 25% for both condi and damage). No mantra for the hybrid, passive signets instead.

I will most likely make my program and then everything will be accurate with maybe even food and I will be able to try more combinations.
This is to get a first idea only, I don’t pretend this is 100% accurate or relevant.

I’m very interested to see how this works out. I still think sinister is superior but I’m not as good a number crunches as some of you. Ranger runes are fixed btw

Silverkey.2078:

I did it… I did an estimate start of fight
berserker: warden, swordsman, signet ether, swordsman, AA….
rampager: warden, duelist, signet ether, duelist, AA….
Doing so, there is hardly any difference between both. Berserker starts above and after about 8s has a 12000 damage better than rampager (computed assuming 2200 armor for enemies). From then, the spread reduces and at 11s, both build are identical.
The converged DPS in both those cases is essentially identical, the rampager is better only if you can replace the warden with the duelist when cooldown is finished. It would then beat the berserker with 3 swordsmen. However, swordsmen is off-CD sooner assuming you don’t interrupt anything with pistol. Another important part is that I assumed you maintain the 5 charges from mantras, but after about 10s, this is unrealistic.

So overall my conclusion is that both build are very similar in damage output but berserker has a small edge for fights shorter than 10s. So we can keep the berserker meta

If they bring back the bleeding formula they advertised first, things will most likely be different.

Shouldn’t you test with sinister and assassin? Also what runes and sigil were you using? I also don’t think mantra use is most beneficial for a hybrid set up

Can we get more gear or items to represent them? It’s almost like they’re forgotten

did the nerf bat hit this already? it seems different today

ive always hated the ideas of mounts in this game, and I recently tried ff14 and now I want mounts lol

where can I see the datamined warhorn

staff is strongest, dagger is strong and with offhand focus brings the most utility. I prefer dagger/focus but for pure damage staff is stronger

I think sinister is far beyond assassin and zerker right now but we’ll see

This skill has been broken or ridiculous since launch in wish anet would just replace it with something completely different. Give us a projectile that creates a clone on hit

What are you talking about? Engineer has been quite possibly the best class for years. As of this moment this patch made it the strongest class

Thief isn’t getting staff, atleast I truly believe we arent. I’ve seen the pic but it’s like seeing my wife kiss another man but the sun was in my eye, I refuse to believe it. We are getting a rifle, the pistols will pierce and bouce and the spec will be gunslinger. Anyone who says anything else is a traitor against freedom

Nah its not. Sadly all you can do is xfer. There was guesting on other servers back in the day but it caused problems

Scepter on mesmer, especially now that condi is strong, is way better than eles

Silhouette.5631:

I know the data mined stuff has a lot of people in a tizzy but don’t freak out. Sword mage is popular and is bound to get added -eventually-. If yall do get warhorn right now I’m sure it’ll turn out great. Just look at chronomancers shield.
Personally I play a guardian and got longbow. I’m not the biggest fan BUT we still got some other cool stuff with it that I like and I’m sure elementalist will too

Sword mage already exists it’s called mesmer

youre all insane. this is the most fun mesmer has ever been. so many viable builds it makes my pants uncomfortable 24/7

so yea, 13 of my characters are… of elonian heritage. However since the patch, in the character select screen, they turned white. all of them, white as michael jackson.

ScorpioSting.5917:

Wow…

You guys should consider to tatoo on your hearth: “I love ANET”.

(-_-)

It became obvious why gaming industry makes jokes of us (50$ for a little expansion even for players that already have the game) with ppl like you throwing money like that… GG

im not sure if youre joking or not. I paid 60+ for guild wars 2 and have 5000 hours. I paid 60 dollars for batman and finished it in 12 hours. The expansion will have more content than batman. im not sure I understand…

wow really? I thought this was the best thing they did for necro. interesting

I can’t wait to kill the tengu. They are the one story sec I feel anet really needs to do something with. They live right next door and did nothing for us during the invasion or anything. They are the enemy and need to be slaughtered asap

I’m taking screen kittens of all the strangest threads and making an album. Dec 31st is the release date

punahou.3986:

rapthorne.7345:

Here’s what I currenly have. Note this is for working with pugs, which is why I picked vampiric presence rather than banshee’s wail

I can’t stand not having a passive movement buff.

So that being said
I’m running a signet build atm.

What I’m bothered about now is the fact that other classes, especially guardians are able to hit a lot harder than us, it’s not even close.

I
I have a burning spec guardian
2hsword
1hsword/torch

Just on burns alone he hits for 4k a tick plus his regular weapon damage which is between 1k to 3k hits…. in exo rampage armor.

My necro so far is averaging 900-1600-2300 dagger hits.

I’m OK with it so far, as my main reason for coming back after 2 years was to play the reaper.

So for me hopefully the introduction of 2hsword with traits chills that damage will be off the chart.

Where are you doing your testing because my necro was hit ting for 4 to 7k with daggers

Domination Dueling and inspiration for power mesmer. However I’ve been messing with sinister and the chaos line instead of inspiration is really nice. I don’t think power mes will be meta anymore but we will see

I need this. I will be hosting a twitch of myself killing every ambient in Tyria until it is back in the gem store.

Flameseeker prophecies is my favorite shame no one can really use it

It’s most likely because thief elite spec is getting rifle. The spec will probably revolve around rifle and pistols, Assassin style

I think they changed it because druid Is going to have aoe ground targetting.

The entitlement people have is unbelievable. Lolol

I agree with everything said, as long as hot makes enemies much harder and dungeons get some kind of hard mkde

Jon bless you for dealing with this community

I felt like I was getting the bleeding stacks when the patch dropped and then later in the day it stopped. Anyone else experience this

I dont think the mantra cd is a bug. As good as the change is, it barely effects mantra of pain. I’ve been using the same set up forever, changes it by 1 second. Its not op or anything I assume it’s working as intended

I somewhat agree. They need to change condi damage back so that the stats work different in pvp. People are literally dying in seconds. I love the mantra changes and mantras still aren’t popular which is amazing to me and I prefer it that way. But yea for the most part I agree, let us enjoy condi because is been power only for 3 years

Just please be kind to mesmers. I almost feel like we are in the meta, just please let us be good before you make us weak again

What really? I’ve been in all day with my guild and never heard anyone having any issues

Tobias.8632:

I’ve been running this “wellshroud” build and it is AMAZING

http://i.imgur.com/6TXamEf.jpg

The aoe healing, protection, and siphon this gives is so great. Having a longer duration lich form on a shorter cooldown is great. You are a table flipper. As soon as someone goes down on either team and people start clustering around there so you drop your wells , it’s like a party in your pants and everyone is invited.

Only thing is, now you have quickening thirst you don’t really need the swiftness uptime from runes of the pack, so you might consider swapping them out for something else. I would look into it but I need to go play DMC4SE now.

I just said this samething in another thread and people lold

Kirito.9207:

As a PVE Mesmer I’m completely lost right now on how to build for max DPS in dungeons and fracs. It’s almost scary to think my s/s s/f might not be the go to thing anymore.

im with you there Dax

oh I know you could, easily. im just shocked how much better it is now. not saying its amazing or god mode, but I def see a difference

decided to bring my necro to SW today. Spite, Blood Magic, Soul Reaping. Dagger dagger/wh and absolutely murdered everything. Was literally able to melee everything without going below 90% hp just dropped wells and pure melee. im a bit shocked how strong the passive healing is

I dont care if this games to console or not but…. it would make them MILLIONS. FF14 is HUGE on Console and ESO is absolutely killing it on console right now.

Fay.2357:

The warlock doesn’t have a bounce, why on earth would you think that?

whaaaat? didnt they add that? im high

Telekinesis.8312:

greatsword and domination are really bad for conditions imo. 12.5% to condition damage, sure but how are you applying conditions with a greatsword in the first place, and u’d rather be berserker to get the full use of 12.5% physical damage boost.

this.

The entire reason we are using staff for condi is for the AOE on chaos storm and the extra bounce from the AA. We can burn/bleed extremely easily not to mention a strong phantasm which now has a bounce.

Dont see any reason to use GS in PVE really to be honest, except occasional spots in frac

anyone who bought the deluxe edition for an extra 25 dollars for a 10 dollar character slot that you could get for free in game deserves …. lol

So what are we looking at guys?

Sinister weps/trinks/armor
Bursting + earth on staff
Bursting + Force (?) on sword/pistol

I think scepter for pve isnt worth it now that im looking at this again. Sword is def the way to go

Islafinlidel shatterleaf

I’m going to run full sinister and a very similar sRT up to telekinesis but I don’t see taking sword over sceptor. I’m going to have to really play around with this. Then again, sword with torment sigil.. hmm

SpellOfIniquity.1780:

I’m actually so upset with most of the changes that I’ve been biting my tongue from saying really awful things…

I’ve put so much money in to this game I could probably own a small share of the company by now. Of course, no one forced me to open my wallet but it’s a bit like buying a shopping mall. It has all these wonderful things, you fall in love with a shoe store, so you keep donating money to that mall just for that one special place you love so much. But every time the mall goes under construction to add a new store your shoe store gets smaller and smaller until they close it.

Necromancer is the one thing that keeps me glued to this game 8+ hours a day. Of course, I’ve put a lot of love in to my Ranger as well but I’m a Necro at heart and I always go back to it even after I take a vacation. These changes though… I just don’t know if I want to stay around any longer. I feel betrayed.

When I started playing, I chose Engineer. Which I eventually dropped for Necromancer and never looked back. After all the buffs they’ve been getting though… I’m starting to wish I’d chosen a different main.

For the record however, I’m sure I could still very much enjoy myself with Necro even post patch. The problem though is that no matter how much fun you have with your favorite profession, if you’re even a little bit competitive… Fun starts to become a benefit to your effectiveness rather than the primary focus… And with I’m sure by now, over 4k hours in WvW and Phoenix rank in PvP… I’m a little more than competitive.

The fact that your other class is Ranger makes me feel bad for you, and you have my respect. Necro ranger mains? dang

Ephemiel.5694:

Mentions ArcheAge and Warlords of Draenor, but doesn’t mention the $40 Heavensward. Alright.

Ff14 is never used in any kind of comparison because of the gigantic flop it was and how many people lost money initially buying it. The script gets flipped on it so often they just let it be

People don’t even know what’s in the expansion. These forums are ridiculous