Guild Wars 2

My suggestion?

Make ranks and wvw skill points account bound, keep skills character specific.

I can’t tell if you guys are trolling or not.

http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Wvw

In the live stream they did earlier today devs said they knew that ppl would hate the no skip option. But they chose to do it anyway and like it this way. Most likely bc it’s true to old school games. And to get a lol at farmers.

KyoHanakaze.8145:

They have a chance to drop from the end zone chests.

So, from all 3, not just the final?

Moto sells account bound skins, so where are ppl getting the unbound ones to sell on the TP?

Absconditus.6804:

After you purchase the Continue Coin, you need to speak with our friendly NPC to use it. The reason you got sent back out into Rata Sum was because this “continue screen” has a timer on it, like the good old arcade ones. You can see how two spiked walls are trying to crush you, and molten rock are coming up below you, which is basically the timer.

When I went back inside, the vendor wouldn’t take my purchased coin. I had to get another one from the vending machine to go in.

Once I got in, my party was still there, all foes were still defeated, but I had to run from start to catch up.

Hands down, this is a great addition to the game! Playing off of this idea, what other type of SAB items could Anet add? What kind of SAB additions, rewards, gem store items would you guys like to see?

I’ll start:

1) 8 bit tonic of all 5 races
2) 8 bit armor
3) 8 bit pvp map
4) MOAR 8 bit back items

I lost all my lives and was offered the chance to buy a continue coin for 50 baubles, I bought one, but nothing happened. So I hit “I” to open my inventory (thinking I needed to click on the coin to consume it) and was promptly teleported back to Rata Sum upon trying to open my inventory.

So I had to start all over again, and I was out the 50 baubles (the continue coin was still in my inventory).

I got knocked off of the hill during the zone 1 boss, right as my team destroyed the cage. They all looted the chest, but we zoned into zone 2 before I had time to climb back up and loot the chest.

Shouldn’t it wait until everyone loots it before zoning, or have an “I’m ready” button.

I concur, it is THAT amazing. So sad it’s not going to be around permanently, so much thought and details went into it. Love it!

Yes and Yes.

Ease and tactics of pve depend on your profession and play style as well.

It’s way easier once you are 80 with appropriate gear and weapons.

Just hunted it down, dmg bonus is 25% at tier 2, not 2%.

https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/pvp/wuvwuv/Cannon-and-Ballista-Mastery-Incorrect-Tooltip/first#post

And for the record, I’m not saying these abilities be account wide, just that the currency be account wide so you can spend it on any toon, same as dungeon tokens and laurels.

Waffler.1257:

That’s a pretty sad story, I still level all my alts in WvW, sorry you guys are so concerned about missing out on an extra 1% siege damage.

Laugh all you want, but it’s the wvw version of ascended items. Except you can at least earn your laurels on any toon in PvE.

And apparently the tool tip is incorrect, the 2% dmg should actually read 25% dmg. That’s another users quote, personally, I’d like a link to where the dev said that, but it doesnt change the fact that the ranks and abilities were put in to give something to work on, and that’s exactly what they are doing.

And now a wvw noob can have a higher wvw rank than you bc you use alts.

Guardian skill ‘Sanctuary’ will destroy any portal bomb.

Besides, if you can’t beat ’em, join ’em. I suggest you make a mesmer or thief.

Although, your wxp won’t transfer over, so forget I said that.

But they are reacting exactly the way anet intended them to. Anet put in this system to reward players to stick to one alt, so what do you expect?

PvP ranks/armor/weapons can be earned no matter what alt you are on.

Dungeon tokens can be earned no matter what alt you are on.

Laurels can be earned no matter what alt you are on.

WvW skill points…nah, character based.

The game used to reward you for playing how you liked to play, and have alts for certain jobs wasn’t penalized, not so much anymore.

Why not make ranks account bound, and the wvw skill points an account bound currency that you can only spend once, like laurels and dungeon tokens. They aren’t giving you ‘real’ skills anyhow. They are passive stats more similar to armor stats and accessory stats that tokens and laurels buy.

If pvp’ers aren’t forced to rank up every profession, I don’t understand why WvWers should be, other than just for the sake of grind.

Tobias Steele.2071:

Josh! Seriously people need to review their motivations for playing wvw if the wexp is all that matters. If that happened in map chat in my server I would start raging. It’s just people being idiots, not the systems fault.

I <3 you Toby.

Wxp points are used to make your character stronger. Laurels are also used to buy gear to make your character stronger. Last I checked, laurels can’t be traded, thus not a true currency, but a point system to improve your character.

I already got and spent the 10 bonus laurels. So I think it would be pretty involved and not worth anets time take back laurels that aren’t there anymore. I’m sure I’m not the only one. Also, giving 10 laurels to the entire community would be excessive as only a small amount are in the “I would have if I could” group. Most ppl are unaware or don’t care/do monthlies.

Ayrilana.1396:

XP is different than currency.

But titles and ranks are not different from titles and ranks. Pve titles = account wide. Pvp ranks = account wide. Wvw titles and ranks = character wide? Make up your minds and make it = through out the game. I don’t care which way, just make it the same.

Catisa.6507:

You chose to run multiple toons you need to do multiple times the work. Don’t want to do the work again? Don’t run multiple toons.

- Are skill points gained on one toon useable by another? NO
- If one toon gains a level of XP do all toons gain a level? NO
- If you unlock a utility skill on one toon does it unlock a utility skill on all others? NO
- If you unlock weapon skills on one toon does it unlock for all others? NO

So why are you surprised when WXP which unlocks skills is only for the toon that earned it?

Haha. I think this guy didn’t read my post. For you I changed the title so you can keep posting without having to read the thread.

Exactly what I’m saying. Please let all of my alts do the work of daily and monthly.

Mod: pls move this back to general discussion thread. It is meant to be a discussion, not a suggestion. Wording has been adjusted to reflect this. Thanks.

And according to a bunch of players it should stay that way bc why should an alt get something it didn’t earn? So shouldn’t dailies and monthlies be character specific as well? All of my alts should be able to do these achievements. I feel like I’m always being penalized.

Have you not seem all the wxp threads? What’s the highest rank? What lines should we level first? The wxp race is on wether you ignore it or not. Wether it’s underwhelming or not. It’s the first bone Anet has thrown our way.

This morning I hopped into EB to discover we were outmanned and with no commander. We held zero objectives and oddly someone had left about 6 omega golems parked at spawn.

So we gathered what troops we could, manned the golems, selected a suitable target…and sat. And sat and sat and sat. You see, there were no mesmers to safely port our golems to the tower and no one wanted to hop on an alt because ranks are character bound. How sad. So we went back to throwing our bodies at the gate because at least we won’t have an armor repair bill (which is actually quite nice).

Please give us player progression and scrap the character progression. It’s player vs player after all.

Each mega boss now spawns two chests. The original large chest as well as a smaller one. The smaller one will only spawn once per day per mega boss for your account.

The normal large chest went back to the old drop rates. The new smaller one has the guaranteed rare.

So effectively your account can get one guaranteed rare from each boss per day.

Holy Zerg batman. Lack of culling is insanely awesome.

On the flip side the sea of red names is a bit much… Maybe a mod to turn them into smiley and frowney faces

Not with this patch, but they are planning to add them at some point.

Great idea, ensure that commanders have actually played some WvW.

If this were implemented then they could take off the commander suppression in WvW as no gold sellers/spammers would take that much time to earn BoH.

Daendur.2357:

Changed “NCsoft” to “NCSOFT” throughout.

Finally!

Glad to see someone else as excited as I am to see this finally implemented. It’s about kitten time.

Oh snap, double update from [PiNK].

Geikamir.6329:

Goloith.6349:

Geikamir.6329:

It’s 2000-4000 hours to max out the abilities. Per character.

lolwut.

Your kidding right? Do you have a link? If that is the case then we can definitely expect people to migrate to the Meta – Warr/Guard/Mesmer.

http://www.pcgamer.com/2013/03/25/guild-wars-2-world-vs-world-update-the-designers-talk-world-ranks-server-balance-cheating-and-more/

Technically, it’s not 2k hour to max the abilities, it’s 2k hours to achieve the highest rank. More and more abilities will be added going forward.

I still maintain my position, ranks should be account based, skill character based.

Titan.3472:

Eb is belonging to us. ty for coming. Only Veloka didnt surrender :p

Veloka will never surrender!

Overkill much? Haha, I think you guys had 9 omega golems vs non upgraded towers during our off hours.

Anyhow, 30 mins later and we re-own our land, twas short lived.

Jeknar.6184:

Unfortunely if they remove the supression for commanders, the gold-seller spammers would problably buy commander tags and start the spam again…

It’s funny, but gold seller spammers are the only players that have figured out how to get around chat suppression.

Also, spammers wouldn’t last long in WvW, I’m sure the entire map would report and block them in seconds.

Yes, this happens extremely frequently and it’s horrible. The suppression for commanders while in wvw needs to be relaxed. It happens to me every time I command and also other commanders in my guild.

And we mostly use mumble and use chat minimally to link WPs and give basic directions. I have no clue how its registering as excessive.

Kintari.4172:

Given the choice between (relatively) close matchups and new matchups, I’ll take close ones.

It’s okay to disagree. But repeating the same exact thing every week hoping for a different outcome is the definition of insanity ;D

You’re implying that there would be zero close matches in a round robin style. There wouldn’t be as many, but I bet it would happen more often than you think. it would be interesting to see how servers mount up against each other. Different dynamics match up differently against each other. Also, having close matches every week is burning out the wvw base. It would be nice to have an ‘off’ week when playing easier servers.

Welp, tiers are leveling out and getting stagnant again. Thought I’d bump this brilliant idea. Coincidently it would also deter spies as you’d be up against a different server each week. I also really want to play off against the rest of the community, not just the same two for infinity.

eisberg.2379:

I love playing alts, and I hate it when things are account bound, I want everything to be character bound, I want all my alts to not effect the other alts. This WvW Ranks thing is a fantastic idea, it lets each character progress, and not just 1 character progressing all the other characters. I hate how daily’s, achievements, laurels, monthly are all account bound and it kitten the progression of my alts

Sounds like you hate content that is time gated. Anet introduced laurels/ascended gear to the daily so that you could only earn one per day. It’s also lame that dungeon tokens are time gated and we hit DR even when we swap toons.

Fact is, all new content is time gated and grindy. Anet swaps character based and account based mechanics depending on which one will take us longer to achieve, which is the exact opposite mentality of their pre launch manifesto, a game with no grind.

Ranks are not new to GW2. It’s just new to wvw. Everywhere else in the game ranks are account bound and measure player progression, so why did they make them character bound for wvw?

WTF? Ill repeat again, W T F.

emikochan.8504:

Well titles are currently account bound so you might get your wish. Thread will be moved to the correct forum anyway.

The new wvw ranks/titles are character bound and the existing wvw achievements in the hero panel are a joke as they are so difficult that its not a reliable way to accurately track player progression.

tic.7425:

Couldn’t you have posted this in the thread about this exact same subject that you have already been posting in? Currently no less than 7 threads down from this one.

That would have defeated the purpose of this post. That thread raises many thoughts and questions, and the conversation has progressed specifically to alt hate. The purpose of this thread is not to debate alt hate, but to address the lack of player progression.

Player Progression =/= Character Progression

• PvE has both titles and achievement points to track player progression
• PvP has both ranks and soon leader boards to track player progression

WvW is a player vs player format, yet has zero way to track player progression.

The March 26th update is adding two new mechanics:

• Character abilities (promotes character progression)
• Character ranks (promotes character progression)

I’m excited that wvw is getting attention, but I’m saddened that there is nothing to reward or measure player progression.

@Shonie

Sure, zerg v zerg is currently how it goes. But that doesnt change the fact that this new update will discourage players from playing alts in WvW.

Anet hates zergs, they’ve said they are trying to change that which is one reason they are implementing specialized abilities. So if they want to push people into more specialized teams, then they should not introduce a mechanic that discourages ppl from rerolling as needed.

Also, why must anet have account wide titles in PvE, account wide ranks in PvP, but then go character based for WvW. People that play wvw, want to show off how much they play by having a high rank and not be penalized for rerolling. Rerolling is more fun.

Ursan.7846:

Well, from the looks for it, WvW titles aren’t entirely for vanity. There seems to be skills and buffs associated with them too.

Correct, but they should separate them. Ranks should be account wide and skills/buffs character based.

Gelltor.3015:

Beorn Saxon.4762:

Gelltor.3015:

What are these perks supposed to be?
Titles are just superficial anyway,if someone sees your low level title and thinks “easy kill” theyll get a nice surprise :p

The question is, why would Anet make titles account based for pve and pvp but then character based for wvw? Yes it’s just vanity, but for those of us that play wvw exclusively I want my title to show that. I don’t want my 8 alts to all have the same noob title as the pve player that only plays in wvw 1/8th of the time I do.

Hmm,they aren’t making them like the PvP ones are they? Like the champion hunter one or those types?

It’s the exact opposite of PvP. PvP ranks are based off of glory, an account based ’currency. WvW ranks will be based off of wvwXP, character based.

Gelltor.3015:

What are these perks supposed to be?
Titles are just superficial anyway,if someone sees your low level title and thinks “easy kill” theyll get a nice surprise :p

The question is, why would Anet make titles account based for pve and pvp but then character based for wvw? Yes it’s just vanity, but for those of us that play wvw exclusively I want my title to show that. I don’t want my 8 alts to all have the same noob title as the pve player that only plays in wvw 1/8th of the time I do.

There is a difference between character progression and player progression. WvW players want player progression. WvW is a PvP format. It was meant to be a bridge to introduce pve players to pvp. The ranks should absolutely be account based (which favors player progression) and leave the earned perks character based (favors character progression).

The fact is that Anet marketed gw2 as a no grind game. Millions of copies were bought and we devoured the content. We went through the content so quickly that Anet has decided to start adding grind to keep us busy/slow us down. Not cool.

FotM – leveling is character based to slow us down.
Laurels – dailies are account wide so we get one per day to slow us down.
WvW XP – back to character bound to slow us down.

They flip flop account wide and character specific mechanics depending on which will take us longer to acquire said item.

I’m a gw2 fanboy, but I still have to think objectively. These forums were made bc Anet wants our feedback.

All you haters that want more character progression need to go start some other thread asking Anet to make your pve titles character based as well as your dungeon tokens, and to scrap all karma jugs and all harvested materials need to be soul bound.

Because that’s what I hear you saying you like.

In fact, we should just get rid of the TP bc you should have to earn all those ectos. That’s true character progression. An dyes to, soul bound on acquire.

This post was supposed to be in the ‘suggestions’ forum. I blame my smart phone.

With the new wvw xp we can earn points to spend on perks and we unlock titles. Please don’t punish the dedicated WvW players for utilizing alts.

We play more hours, we play off hours to pick up down times, we play PvE to fund WvW expenses and we level alts in PvE to be utilized as needed. The titles should be based on how much we play wvw, not how committed we are to a lone profession.

With the character based titles, you are rewarding casual players, and penalizing committed wvw players by pigeon holding us into one profession. We want to be able to boast about how much we play and if we truly play the most then let us show it.

If you want character progression then you have the perks for that. But please make ranks account based.

All other vanity titles are account based in PvE and PvP, why would you do this to WvW players?

I would even suggest that the wvxp points earned be an account noun currency that we could spend one time on any character.

All other ranks in the game are account bound, why punish wvw players for utilizing alts???

I can understand ppl want character progression, so just keep the wvw perks character based, but for the love of god make ranks account based. If I play a ton of wvw I want the title no matter what toon I’m on so enemies know how much I play, isn’t that the whole freaking point???

This way, if I play wvw for 16 hours across 4 characters they’ll each have a noobier title and less wvw perks than someone who plays wvw for only6 hours on one toon.

This stinks.

It does not incentivize ppl to level many alts in the long haul, bc as soon as I start leveling an alt, I drop way behind folks that only play one.