Guild Wars 2

staff elemental air 2 hits multiple targets and blinds them. Also have a trait that blinds after a roll.

Has anyone tested how blind affects shatters? I’m assuming blinding the real mesmer won’t do anything but what about blinding the clones rushing in for a shatter?

I always like hotjoins where the players actually say stuff in chat, even if it’s “l2p nub”, “2222222 thief” jajaajaja. Always amusing but also shows some players caring about learning their class more. I hate silent games where it seems people don’t give a kitten at all.

Run and throw red circles in front of me while they run across. Go back and stomp one. Fail as he gets rezzed. Repeat.

I just want to see a glass cannon or even semi GC staff ele be viable. Tried it and it doesn’t work for me. Maybe twice the damage but 1/5 the survivability as a more balanced build 10/0/0/30/30.

Mesmers were broken and you (and they) knew it.

I actually like 8v8 casually. Not everyone plays to be “competitive” but to just jump in and have some fun as is the intention by the devs. I actually find 5v5 (when it happens after some ppl leave) much more boring and uneventful, empty even. There’s just a greater chance of 1v1 or 2v2.

Some say ppl don’t work as a team in 8v8 or play “supportively” for the group. Not the way I experience it. I still see bunkers and roamers and people still want to win the game even if they are just glory farming. I’d even argue that glory farming incentivizes people to learn/experiment faster as they would go out of their way to take nodes and kill more people.

If you want to practice and prepare for tournaments, go into free tpvp or 5v5 hotjoins and leave 8v8 as it is…

3 kills = 100% vigor uptime
5 kills = 100% fury uptime
7 kills = 100% protection uptime
10 kills = match is over. your team wins.

If by 1v3 you mean running away and surviving then yea. Nobody can outmatch their fleeing skillz.

daydream.2938:

alternatively, have the scoreboard ‘freeze’ the match, no more character actions and damage taken.
but the scoreboard pop up is annoying.

I’d be against locking everything, though. Sometimes there’s just that 1v1 match going on and you want to see who wins. Or a group chasing that annoying mesmer/ele and just wish to stomp him and /dance.

Might be blind hope, but I expect some sort of deathmatch mode to be added in. But how many players is best, do you think? For the complainers about balance, this isn’t a mode for perfect balance. Just something to jump in and kitten around in with more players than 8v8, but less than wvw. Or maybe 8v8 is the best one? Personally, I’d like 15v15 on a bigger map. Big enough for smaller skirmishes to happen and for melee to still be able to charge in and wreck house.

I’m a “try-hard” but not competitively in tournaments, only casually rolling nubs If I had to pay $60 for this game’s pvp including wvw then I’d still do it.

So many times I’ve been in a tense battle with 1 or 2 people and bam, scoreboard pops up in the middle of aiming my teleport to escape. Can we just get a slimmer banner saying the match is over that STAYS on top where we can just click to reveal the scoreboard?

Also will fix the interruption during typing a chat.

My Vanilla WoW pvp experience:

Ret paladins OP.

Rogues 1 or 2 shotting with ambush backstab.

Warlocks were pitiful.

Frost mages ruled with rank 1 snares with nil cost + near instant cast

8-10 second fears. 10+ sec stunlocks.

Tons of useless talents and very narrow build ranges across classes. Hence the term “cookie cutter build” that was so popular in threads. There was one build for each class, MAYBE two that was just for the fun aspect and 75% as effective at most.

Massively gear/spec-based. As a mage when I encountered a demo warlock later in the expansions I knew I had absolutely no chance to win. None. Got back on my newly 80 warrior and felt useless in a battleground compared to semi-geared people.

Now looking at GW2 with equal gear footing, and 2+ viable builds for each class + other differentiations via weapon choice/traits/runes/sigils and you can tell which one I’d vastly prefer. Plus each class has ways to “cleanse” conditions, whereas in WoW I depended on 1 or 2 classes to save my butt, at least in vanilla. Imagine if we had capture the flag or deathmatch modes now…

And look at the amount of changes in 4 months, most of which are in the right direction. Can’t say the same about WoW.

It happens twice in a row one time when i got downed twice. Finally killed me but not before misting away a 3rd time lol.

Talentless huh? Big talk for a doomsayer declaring the game is a failure and unfixable after 4 months. Name me another mmo that had perfect balance after a few months.

Also, staff playing their own game must be the very best in the world right?

Spread your bile elsewhere

Seeing how the devs locked build and weapon switching in tpvp I wouldn’t hold my breath. But would be nice for hot joins, wvw and pve where u just mess around anyway

That might be part of your answer: 2 pugs. If you’re using ranged quickness it’s possible for an ele to eat a face full of arrows with protection up while evading around others. I don’t know of any way of healing much without 30 in arcane for the roll heal either so if he’s using 0/0/30/30/10 I wanna know wut he does.
Still need to know wut mainland he used. It’s pretty easy to distinguish between dagger or scepter main hand.

If anyone has a “rotation” for all our 20 skills i’d love to know it.

I’ve never seen any ele surviving 2-3 min of straight up tanking 2-3 guys in spvp at least. It doesn’t seem possible (i main an ele). But we’ll need to know what main weapon he was using. Only ele that I’ve seen that are impossible to kill are the d/d who use Ride the Lightning to escape.

DD or staff ele do have it a bit tougher soloing. You need to really use most of your 20’sh available skills as you move from mob to mob to be effective. Don’t go glass cannon – worked much better for me when I stacked some toughness/vit.

All the armors including light are surprisingly “realistic” and look like actual armor – well covered and layered. Very few are deliberately sexy and revealing. Unless you’re complaining the small handful of revealing armor or consider an uncovered neckline or waistline to be too sexy…

Even for light I had trouble picking out the most revealing outfits – winged was the only one I thought to be “wow Asian sexy/perverted” and 2 off the top of my head had the skirt-with-stockings type of look with some leg showing.

They really could add more sleek and revealing armor for leather (not bondage type stuff obviously). And sleeker armor for heavy. Sexy doesn’t have to mean showing boobies or panties.

Whenever I switch to water attunement on my ele to remove 2 of 3 conditions then heal, I always still have the poison left over -_-

Been seeing more melee rangers in spvp recently and while I can 1v1 most, there was one who gave a good fight that lasted upwards of a minute with my staff ele (semi-bunker spec). He kept swinging around me like a thief’s flanking strike and evaded a lot of attacks. Tough to damage and still dealt a lot of pressure even with my heals. I forgot which weapons he used but looked like a sword or greatsword. Is there a particular melee build popular atm?

See my “When I see 2 mesmers in spvp…” thread

Same experience. Games are so much more fun and balanced when there are no mesmers or thieves at all.

I take it you play as a Mesmer…

You’re part of what’s broken and unbalanced atm. Just gotta love when ppl say l2p or don’t nerf their overpowered class.

Kultas Sunstrider.9218:

COMBO BLAST on COMBO FIELD to give my allies 2 kittening seconds of chaos armor? lol no thx.

Save your 30 sec cd blast finisher for my 30 second cd aoe slow field to get an awesome 2 sec frost armor!!111

1st time I looked for what effect it gave it was already over…

Because u simply can’t depend on others when u need a field layer down so the risk of waiting for one isn’t worth using your finisher, especially since its probably on a long cd and ur better off using it when u need to in terms of timing or response to what your opponent is doing.
The benefit of even the most arguably powerful blast effect (water) isn’t worth the huge communication, timing, and positioning requirements.
Finishers as it is are just random icing on the cake except for a few specific builds I imagine.

Decrease it to 25% AND increase cd regen of abilities for 4/5 seconds.

No, I’m not saying they’re OP. Just frustrating in all hell to fight one.

There is no point in this thread besides my rant btw.

I did play mesmer. I can sense the frustration in those I roll over.

I leave the server. Sometimes even if they’re on my team.

You don’t know the frustration of going against two competent mesmers spewing illusions out. Scanning your whole field of view for the real one whilst watching for shatters (which can be juked btw with no telling if it’s a non-mind wrack shatter) in addition to hounding for the real one after a stealth = infuriating.

No I don’t have problems 1v1 as I can beat at least half of them, or maybe they were just bad.

If going against an extra non-mesmer player increases in difficulty linearly, going against n mesmers will be n^2

warrior’s hundred blades? I don’t mind it.
Bunker classes/specs? I can deal.
Uncatchable d/d ele? meh
Thieves gibbing me sometimes? w/e
rangers still sucking? coo
But fighting 2 or more mesmers let alone 1? Oh the rage…

1 example:
staff earth 2, water 5, switch to s/d, fire 2 and 3, later 4 then earth 4

You just did 3 aoe heals, 4 if you roll in water, and 3 stacks of might while casting damagers. This is assuming all weapon skills share a cd across attunements, and disreguards any cooldown on weapon switching.

LordByron.8369:

just to ask (still able to stack any amount of swiftness with rune of the pack).

What on earth swiftness is useful for? considering as you are engaged in battle its disabled?

Ever try chasing an ele with swiftness even in combat?

PowerBottom.5796:

It’s really really hard to dodge shatterspikes, but it’s not too easy to land them as the mesmer as well, but here are a few tricks I’ve picked up in countless 1v1’s with Top-Mesmers (I often 1v1-train with Top-30 EU-QP-Players):

1) First of all, don’t let them get near you if possible. It’s way easier to dodge the immobilize, if you actually see the Ilusion that does the leap, it’s harder if the mesmer stands near you and just presses “3” two times very quickly.

2) Everytime they get near you – dodge. Yes, this is only possible on chars that can potentially stay out of Melee-Range with the mesmer, but it’s IMHO the only safe way to avoid being immobilized, because everytime a mesmer is in Melee-range, he can potentially Immobilize you within the blink of an Eye.

- There are certain mediating Aspects to the Rule of Thumb above: Count the Illusions; if he doesn’t have 2 (1 he’ll get from Illusionary Leap), it’s not as likely that he’ll shatter you, or he’ll have to dodge somehwere in between to get a third one or he’ll spike without the full potential; In each of the cases, the spike won’t be as scary, because it’s not as fast or doesn’t deal as much dmg. These tips are only important if you don’t have enough dodges – if you have a high-endurance-build, it’s still best to always dodge if the mesmer is in Melee-range.
- Count the time between spikes and constantly know if Mind Wrack is up: Yes, being spiked with other shatters might still deal a bit of DPS and rip off boons, but MW is the Damage-Dealer: No need to use up dodges or Cooldowns on the other F-Skills of the Mesmer. If the Mesmer spiked you, you can easily go into Melee-range for like 10 Seconds and punish him, then just stay back out of Range when MW is back up.
- Watch where the Illusions are and try to control the Illusions with Movement: Most Mesmers use the Pistol-Duelist, which is ranged and the one on the Staff as well – the other Illusions are most of the time Melee: Try and spread out the Melee-Illusions as far as possible from the Ranged ones; this way, the spike won’t hit all at the same time and even if the Mesmer hits his immobilize, you might even be able to dodge some of the Shatters, because the Ranged Illusions had to walk 2+ seconds to you.

3) Kill the Illusions: This is mostly an emergency-plan if you run out of defensive CD’s, dodges or have to go Melee with the Mesmer and staying alive is more important than actually dealing DMG to the Mesmer.

*Edit: if you simply wanted to know how to dodge individual Illusions: They stand still for maybe half a second and kinda charge up their shatter, that’s when you have to dodge them. So they need to be in that state of charging up the shatter, so they’ll actually explode. You kinda have to stand still for a moment and let them get near you or they’ll just keep running. ^^’

I hope I was able to help a bit. ^^

Thx for the writeup. Only issue is I think the shatters do the damage right when they reach you. They flash and do the damage, then “pump” and flex to do the animation. So have to predict and dodge a little early. Frustrating to pay so much attention to what 2+ clones are doing on top of tracking the real mesmer.

Sorry but that’s a bull excuse to be frank. I’ll choose when I want to observe my character and feel attached to it during the story. I’ve taken literally hundreds of screenshots of the world only to have my character block a portion of it. I was thinking of making a slideshow of the world to showcase some nice scenery but with my character’s backside on each of them, ruins it.

Yea there are some awesome skins/tattoos for the sylvari and norn, but if u play any non cloth wearing class all those are hidden away in armor. Just the option for more clothing choices or skimpier clothes would be nice. But there’s a difference between kittenty and attractive clothing!

Yezhik.2071:

Try to kite them so they all run next to each other, then dodge.

Other than that, kill the clones/phantasms before they reach you

Forgot to add that they were. Pretty much all bunched enough for my ele fireball (staff) to hit all or most of them – they would ALL still run by me when I roll.

Being forced to kill them shouldn’t be the answer especially if I play as a melee.

While warriors seem decent but not great, I just pity rangers lol. All of them just pose little to no threat at all at least to my class/spec.

For warriors to survive even a respectable amount of time, they need to go shout build. That got a bit boring. They really need other builds that can give decent survivability.

Is there a foolproof way to dodge the shatters? Half the time when they come at me and I dodge straight through them, they end up running past me instead of exploding, only to turn around and chase me again. I either blow another dodge or eat the shatter.

Felblade.8701:

Dessan.9420:

I still cannot understand why people who say they are finished with this game are still active on this forum. Is that to warn people off from playing a bad game?

Forums are more entertaining and interesting than the current state of the game, and they seem to be more active than the population actually playing the game. That is what happens when a game is dying.

Same goes for WoW or any MMO. I’d prefer an active forum to an inactive one, even if full of whiners.

I find these “game is dying” or “population going downhill” posts quite stupid, full of anecdotal evidence and ppl pulling numbers/conclusions out their kittenholes. In the end, just another doomsday thread that serves no purpose.

“I’ll use Ride the Lightning to escape these foos” on my ele
*forgets to deselect target chasing me

“I got Stability and 5 sec of toughness to finish casting this Meteor Shower in the middle of the node full of baddies”

“I’ll finish that downed warrior later. His rocks don’t hurt much”

Everytime they summon clones, it takes 1-3 sec to identify the real one. That’s 1-3 sec of you putting all [single target at least] abilities on hold while the mesmer gets that 1-3 sec to escape or pummel you. Defense with offense together.

When you do attack the real one, they have the following defenses with the most popular weapons:

Staff has a instant teleport under 10sec CD when traited, adding to the seconds it takes for you to run to him even when he’s been immobilized. That alone got me out of so many bursts and saved myself from tons of damage.

Greatsword has an AOE knockback – which other class has an aoe knockback? That on top of illusions that cripple.

Sword also gives 2 sec invulnerability every 10 sec – with illusions that cripple.

This isn’t counting any of their utilities, and these abilities alone aren’t OP by themselves (but are still friggin fantastic), but as a whole package trying to kill any competent mesmer is more slippery than any other class. Plus they have sizeable HP…

Don’t get me started on shatter mesmers… Every 10 sec they can burst you down on top of good survivability. Everything just works so well there isn’t really any 1 or 2 moves that are the problem.

SaintHax.2647:

I also found her death too soon, and too contrived. Really, did she really slow down the horde of bad guys long enough for us???

She’s an elementalist using dual dagger, so I’m guessing Frozen Burst and Frost Aura

…..didn’t you just teleport to the roof and back down to retreat with us like you did in that personal mission with the wind gusts.

qq

Yes it’s irritating how you can comfortably level from 1-70 solo without any dungeons, but once you hit 80, bam dungeons galore. I was expecting some more end game world events besides the 3 dragons.

Really do hope they’re working on the AI and difficulty scaling as I think these 2 are essential for world events to work well, and the most difficult to get right. Just yesterday it felt just like WoW or other MMO’s where I Just wait in LA looking for groups for dungeons.

I was in a party for CoF with 3 warriors, and all i would hear at the start of every battle was “For Great Justice!” and “Shake it Off” – had a grand time in chat lol.

“It’s” can also mean “It has”..

Personally I hear it as “A BUTT’s reappeared for the taking” and I chuckle every time but maybe it’s just my louder bass that makes it sound so.

I’m reposting this after it got buried in General after a few minutes. TLDR: At 80 it feels like you either dungeon grind or grind DE’s for Karma. The only “end-game” world events are the 3 dragons that have become mundane after the 3rd try. I didn’t expect such emphasize on dungeon grinding after 79 lvls of DE’s with the few occasional dungeons. If there are other non-dungeon things to do, do let me know.

Original post:
First, difficulty. I thought world bosses/champions were supposed to scale based on the # of people engaged? Why is it that Jormag and the other dragons are so easy with a group but impossible for me to solo some basic group events? I suppose it’s difficult to have multiple difficulty brackets for 1-100s of people. But I think more challenging out-door “raids” should be added for endgame other than dungeons.

Why not add world event bosses that are actually difficult that drop mats to use in crafting cosmetics? Adjust difficulty not just on hard stats like Diablo3, but perhaps introduce other attack modes. IE a new aoe avoidable attack if over 50 people are present or reflect all projectiles and force you into melee range. Maybe a giant ogre that can smash pillars around you with pieces falling as aoe damage. Hell, even something like a skritt rampage that sends wave after wave after a village and you earn a bounty of silver/crafting mats based on how many the group can kill before being overrun.

What about events that can “branch out” depending on how people react. Like if the Karka invade Lion’s Arch and Caledon at the same time, and a subsequent event continues where the invasion succeeds (difficult to defend both at once). Make it happen maybe twice a day instead of a simple dungeon grind?

I think introducing mats to be used for crafting 80 exotics on some existing DE’s throughout the whole world would be a reasonable alternative to farming dungeons or karma, and give incentive to actually explore the world. For a game to have cosmetic upgrades for endgame, there seems to be very few designs. I’m only interested in 2 cloth sets. So adding in many designs that can be relatively easy to acquire is in itself a sort of grind but much more rewarding. Collect and mix-match to customize looks even.

I feel rather than focusing on dungeons that not only take players AWAY from the gorgeous world (other than Ascalon, imo) and are scripted and boring, ANET should add more to the world that reward players. I haven’t started on Lost Shores due to work, but aside from the bugs seems neat in concept. But the addition of the new dungeon and new tier of gear and infusion stat just buries the whole event for me, along with the 3 ONE TIME events. To level through DE’s without any dungeons or wasting time looking for groups, then suddenly hitting 80 where dungeons seems to jump at me is disheartening.

The implementation of random and world events opens up so many possibilities. Let’s not leave it as a footprint just to fall back on the tired old dungeon grinding!

If Orr is supposed to be a gloomy, sad, lifeless, diseased, unholy festering cesspool of wasteland of damnation forever bathed in despair then they have achieved it in spades. GOOD JOB